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Browse Forum Users only showing the top twenty points holders

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  • It used to be that via Browse Forum Users you would get a paged list (i.e. page 1; page 2; page 3 etc.) with twenty users on each page that could be sorted on any one of Points, Number of Posts; Answers.

    Now all we have is a single page containing the top twenty points scorers.

    So we've lost

    a) The ability to see the list in Number of Posts and Number of Answers order.

    and

    b) The ability to see as many lots of twenty users as we want. 1-20; 21-40; 41-60 etc..

     

    What happened to both these things?

     

    Mike Walsh

     

    Also why does the section at the right for Recent Moderators; most Answers etc. only now work at set of forum level and even then gives the same large values irrespective of which set of forums you are located at - i.e. it's probably the figures for *all* the forums.

     

     


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    Friday, June 04, 2010 1:22 PM

Answers

  • There are a couple of things on this.

    What you get when clicking on Browse Forum Users are *twenty* (not ten!) users. Whereas they used to be in points order, the number of points (and the number of answers etc.) listed per person on that list are today NOT in any logical order at all. In fact I wonder if all we are now seeing there is the top twenty posters from some time a long way in the past.

    As I said all I am suggesting is going back to the old system. There were three lists (per points; per posts and per answers) and in each one you saw 20 (not 10 ..) at a time and could click on Next/More to get the next twenty. For a while I was hovering just outside the top twenty on one of those lists and therefore know about the incentive to post just a bit more and a bit better ...

    I don't understand your 2. (or indeed your 3.) but I leave it up to MS to decide how to implement it although there was imo nothing wrong in what there used to be before even this thread was started (so considerably more than 2 years ago).

    Mike

     


    SP 2010 "FAQ" (mainly useful links): http://wssv4faq.mindsharp.com/default.aspx
    WSS3/MOSS FAQ (FAQ and Links) http://wssv3faq.mindsharp.com/default.aspx
    Both also have links to extensive book lists and to (free) on-line chapters

    Wednesday, May 30, 2012 11:01 AM

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  • Still the case?

    Thanks!


    Ed Price (a.k.a User Ed), SQL Server Experience Program Manager (Blog, Twitter, Wiki)

    Sunday, May 27, 2012 11:02 PM
  • Admittedly there was a wait after clicking on "Browse Forums Users" but it would have almost been as quick to do that rather than posting a question here!

    Answer: Yes, it is still the same - showing only the top twenty.

    It's odd really because you've (MS forum people that is) spent a lot of (to my mind unnecessary) effort on adding Gold, Silver and Bronze awards and on the code needed to generate them and this was a very simple way of encouraging people to post not only more posts but also to post more answers and also get more points as there were three different lists and people at say position 23 on a list were keen to get to position 20 and thus on the first page. I.e. putting this back would have had a similar pushing effect as awards with much less coding effort (as it was already there earlier).

    But for now - it's the same as when I posted the starter post here in 2010.

    Mike


    SP 2010 "FAQ" (mainly useful links): http://wssv4faq.mindsharp.com/default.aspx
    WSS3/MOSS FAQ (FAQ and Links) http://wssv3faq.mindsharp.com/default.aspx
    Both also have links to extensive book lists and to (free) on-line chapters

    Monday, May 28, 2012 10:23 AM
  • This is a really good suggestion.

    We have new Top 10 lists (3 different ones) in Blogs and Wiki. On Gallery we have a featured download and the popular ones, so that's like a top 10 list. But it's not celebrating users like the others. It's celebrating the content (pros and cons of that).

    For forums, we only have the (mostly hidden) list of top 10 answerers in the overall forums and then again in the individual forums.

    So your suggestion is to have...

    1 - As many users as you want (not just top 10)

    2 - Not as hidden (don't have to click next twice to see the list; just put it under the new visitor list). This is an investment in incentive.

    3 - Overall and per forum (same as current 10 is).

     

    Does that sound accurate?

    If so, I'll push this a little. I can send it to the internal owners. I can post it on the Forum Suggestions forum, etc.

    Thanks!


    Ed Price (a.k.a User Ed), SQL Server Experience Program Manager (Blog, Twitter, Wiki)

    Tuesday, May 29, 2012 9:59 PM
  • There are a couple of things on this.

    What you get when clicking on Browse Forum Users are *twenty* (not ten!) users. Whereas they used to be in points order, the number of points (and the number of answers etc.) listed per person on that list are today NOT in any logical order at all. In fact I wonder if all we are now seeing there is the top twenty posters from some time a long way in the past.

    As I said all I am suggesting is going back to the old system. There were three lists (per points; per posts and per answers) and in each one you saw 20 (not 10 ..) at a time and could click on Next/More to get the next twenty. For a while I was hovering just outside the top twenty on one of those lists and therefore know about the incentive to post just a bit more and a bit better ...

    I don't understand your 2. (or indeed your 3.) but I leave it up to MS to decide how to implement it although there was imo nothing wrong in what there used to be before even this thread was started (so considerably more than 2 years ago).

    Mike

     


    SP 2010 "FAQ" (mainly useful links): http://wssv4faq.mindsharp.com/default.aspx
    WSS3/MOSS FAQ (FAQ and Links) http://wssv3faq.mindsharp.com/default.aspx
    Both also have links to extensive book lists and to (free) on-line chapters

    Wednesday, May 30, 2012 11:01 AM
  • Give a full list which we will be able to sort by nickname, by points, by number of posts or answers and also a search member functionality.

    For every expert, there is an equal and opposite expert. - Becker's Law


    My blog

    Wednesday, May 30, 2012 4:28 PM
  • Regarding the confusion... I'm talking about the lists on the forum pages rather than the features on the "Browse Forum Users" page. But you're talking specifically about that page, right?

    Thanks!


    Ed Price (a.k.a User Ed), SQL Server Experience Program Manager (Blog, Twitter, Wiki)

    Thursday, May 31, 2012 3:28 AM
  • What lists on what forum pages ?

    The Browse Forum Users page used to be the only way to get that info and I can't for instance see any other relevant link in the page for this thread (or indeed at the forum page http://social.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/reportabug/threads)

    Mike


    SP 2010 "FAQ" (mainly useful links): http://wssv4faq.mindsharp.com/default.aspx
    WSS3/MOSS FAQ (FAQ and Links) http://wssv3faq.mindsharp.com/default.aspx
    Both also have links to extensive book lists and to (free) on-line chapters


    Thursday, May 31, 2012 6:31 AM
  • Every forum page: http://social.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/reportabug/threads

    And the main forum page (TechNet, MSDN, and Microsoft branded Forums).

    Click Next on the right until you see the list.


    Ed Price (a.k.a User Ed), SQL Server Experience Program Manager (Blog, Twitter, Wiki)


    Thursday, May 31, 2012 6:50 AM
  • Click Next on the right until you see the list.

    Got an image?

    When I click Next I get the next lot of threads (as it should be), not any list of best posters.

    Confused.

    Mike


    SP 2010 "FAQ" (mainly useful links): http://wssv4faq.mindsharp.com/default.aspx
    WSS3/MOSS FAQ (FAQ and Links) http://wssv3faq.mindsharp.com/default.aspx
    Both also have links to extensive book lists and to (free) on-line chapters

    Thursday, May 31, 2012 6:57 AM
  • Click Next on the right until you see the list.

    Got an image?

    When I click Next I get the next lot of threads (as it should be), not any list of best posters.

    Confused.

    Mike


    SP 2010 "FAQ" (mainly useful links): http://wssv4faq.mindsharp.com/default.aspx
    WSS3/MOSS FAQ (FAQ and Links) http://wssv3faq.mindsharp.com/default.aspx
    Both also have links to extensive book lists and to (free) on-line chapters

    Sorry. I'm not being clear enough. On the right column, there's a "Recent Visitors" box. It's directly under the longer "My Forum Links" box (in the right column). For some reason, that's the default. In the top right corner of the "Recent Visitors" box, there's a "Next" link. It scrolls through more lists (Recent Moderators, Top Answerers, etc.). 

    I was thinking that the Top Answerers list could be pulled out and made a default box under the "Recent Vistors" box. The "Recent Visitors" box could include the "Next" link to get to the "Recent Moderators" list. And then the separate Answers list would include "Top Answerers" open by default (under the Recent Vistors box in the right column), and (when you click Next in that box), you get Top MVP Answerers and Top Microsoft Answerers.

    So all my solution would require is separating the box into two boxes so that the Answerers list could be seen by default on all the forums pages.

    It's not as robust of a solution as to what you and Naomi are suggesting (and what was previously available), but sometimes the lowest hanging fruit is more likely to actually come to fruition.

     

    Ed Price (a.k.a User Ed), SQL Server Experience Program Manager (Blog, Twitter, Wiki)

    Thursday, May 31, 2012 7:25 AM
  • Thanks for the clarification.

    I removed the Recent Visitors box long ago to speed up forum usage which is why I didn't see it (or even remember it was there!). Sorry about that.

    With the Browse Forum Users link in the more standard / necessary "My Forum Links" box on the right side, improving that function (i.e. putting it back to what it was) would be the better solution imo. But I take your point.

    Mike


    SP 2010 "FAQ" (mainly useful links): http://wssv4faq.mindsharp.com/default.aspx
    WSS3/MOSS FAQ (FAQ and Links) http://wssv3faq.mindsharp.com/default.aspx
    Both also have links to extensive book lists and to (free) on-line chapters

    Thursday, May 31, 2012 8:24 AM
  • Thanks for the clarification.

    I removed the Recent Visitors box long ago to speed up forum usage which is why I didn't see it (or even remember it was there!). Sorry about that.

    With the Browse Forum Users link in the more standard / necessary "My Forum Links" box on the right side, improving that function (i.e. putting it back to what it was) would be the better solution imo. But I take your point.

    Mike


    SP 2010 "FAQ" (mainly useful links): http://wssv4faq.mindsharp.com/default.aspx
    WSS3/MOSS FAQ (FAQ and Links) http://wssv3faq.mindsharp.com/default.aspx
    Both also have links to extensive book lists and to (free) on-line chapters

    How do you remove the Recent Visitors box??? Just from your own view?

    I think putting the list on the Forum pages is bigger impact and less work (i.e. more likely to get done). People would see it without having to look for it. I'm not sure if there is enough use of the Browse Forum Use page, and when it is used, it might only be used to find a specific person, and not to create lists of who's doing what.

    I'll need to inquire with the forums team.

    Thanks!


    Ed Price (a.k.a User Ed), SQL Server Experience Program Manager (Blog, Twitter, Wiki)

    Friday, June 01, 2012 11:35 PM
  • How do you remove the Recent Visitors box??? Just from your own view?

    Click on My Settings on the right.

    That gives you "Forum Preferences" and in Other Settings under that you can turn off various things like this.

    Mike


    SP 2010 "FAQ" (mainly useful links): http://wssv4faq.mindsharp.com/default.aspx
    WSS3/MOSS FAQ (FAQ and Links) http://wssv3faq.mindsharp.com/default.aspx
    Both also have links to extensive book lists and to (free) on-line chapters

    Saturday, June 02, 2012 7:24 AM
  • What happened to both these things?


    I have never valued either feature.   I think they were just implementation quirks.   The value of that page is its ability to return a list of user names which match my request.   So, I just thought the change you are complaining about was a way of optimizing performance of that feature.   E.g. if I don't see listed what I am looking for in the first page returned I will just refine my search expression.    <eg>


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    Saturday, June 02, 2012 10:08 AM

  • I have never valued either feature.   I think they were just implementation quirks.   The value of that page is its ability to return a list of user names which match my request.   So, I just thought the change you are complaining about was a way of optimizing performance of that feature.   E.g. if I don't see listed what I am looking for in the first page returned I will just refine my search expression.    <eg>

    I suspect that's what happened. They deemed the other features in "Browse Forum Users" to be out of scope.

    Ed Price (a.k.a User Ed), SQL Server Experience Program Manager (Blog, Twitter, Wiki)

    Tuesday, June 05, 2012 6:19 AM
  • I'd like to use that list to compare my standing in regards to answers to other users.

    For every expert, there is an equal and opposite expert. - Becker's Law


    My blog

    Tuesday, June 05, 2012 12:53 PM