none
Exchange 2010 and 2007 co-exsistance- mailboxes on 2010 are still getting emails throuhg 2007 CAS

Answers

  • Hi Tab,

    Since this issue is related to Exchange, I will move this thread to Exchange forum. Sometime delay might be expected from the job transferring. Your patience is greatly appreciated. 

    Thank you for your understanding and support.

    Best Regards,
    Allen Li


    Allen Li
    TechNet Community Support

    Monday, November 11, 2013 3:14 AM
  • The message went to your 2007 server because that's where the recipient "lives".

    Stripped down, the message path looks like this (read from the bottom, up):

    Received: from exchange2010cas.domain.com (192.168.x.x) by exchange2007cas.domain.com
    Received: from barracuda.domain.com (192.168.x.x) by exchange2010cas.domain.com
    Received: from ch1outboundpool.messaging.microsoft.com
      (ch1ehsobe005.messaging.microsoft.com [216.32.181.185]) by
      barracuda.domain.com  with ESMTP id C2frFhA75GuFi7aH (version=TLSv1

    I guess I'd have to ask what the "Scan Mail Software" is. Since whatever it is happens to be on Exchange 2007 the headers make sense. But if by "releasing it" the message was delivered to a mailbox on Exchange 2010, I'd expect to see another "Received:" header in the message once it arrived in the mailbox on the 2010 server.


    --- Rich Matheisen MCSE&I, Exchange MVP

    • Marked as answer by Zoomy22020 Monday, February 17, 2014 4:13 PM
    Friday, December 27, 2013 10:48 PM

All replies

  • Hi Tab,

    Since this issue is related to Exchange, I will move this thread to Exchange forum. Sometime delay might be expected from the job transferring. Your patience is greatly appreciated. 

    Thank you for your understanding and support.

    Best Regards,
    Allen Li


    Allen Li
    TechNet Community Support

    Monday, November 11, 2013 3:14 AM
  • I'm assuming you mean e-mail from the Internet, is that correct? If so, your perimeter server(s) (Barracuda?) should be sending inbound e-mail to your 2010 HT server(s).

    --- Rich Matheisen MCSE&I, Exchange MVP

    Monday, November 11, 2013 3:29 AM
  • Hi,

    Are you speaking about internal network(outlook,owa) or external network (owa,activesync..)access?

     

    Regards

    Vickram

    Monday, November 11, 2013 3:33 AM
  • Hi,

    Could be please tell the requirement of 2007 CAS Array, Why you left these older array in your enviroment after installing 2010 is there specific requirement.

    Your CAS array servers should be only 2010, can you please check the cas server setting on your mailbox database point it to 2010 cas server if it is on 2007 cas array.

    Thanks & Regards

    Ashish Gaur

    Monday, November 11, 2013 3:33 AM
  • Yes the external mail comes through Barracuda, Barracuda is configured to send email to Exchange 2010 CAS server. The legacy 07 CAS is up since migration was recently completed. The mailbox databases are pointing to 2010 CAS Array. Here is header one such email:

    Received: from exchange2010cas.domain.com (192.168.x.x) by exchange2007cas.domain.com
     (192.168.x.x) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.3.327.1; Sat, 21 Dec 2013
     11:02:33 -0500
    Received: from barracuda.domain.com (192.168.x.x) by exchange2010cas.domain.com
    (192.168.x.x)with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.158.1; Sat, 21 Dec
     2013 11:02:32 -0500
    X-ASG-Debug-ID: 1388073690-067f364dce6e9c0001-jBKwXs
    Received: from ch1outboundpool.messaging.microsoft.com
     (ch1ehsobe005.messaging.microsoft.com [216.32.181.185]) by
     barracuda.domain.com  with ESMTP id C2frFhA75GuFi7aH (version=TLSv1
     cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for <recipient@domain.com>; Sat, 21 Dec
     2013 11:01:31 -0500 (EST)
    X-Barracuda-Envelope-From: sender@domain.com
    X-Barracuda-Apparent-Source-IP: 142.12.1.18
    Received: from mail18-ch1-R.bigfish.com (10.43.68.229) by
     CH1EHSOBE004.bigfish.com (10.43.70.54) with Microsoft SMTP Server id
     14.1.225.22; Thu, 26 Dec 2013 16:01:30 +0000
    Received: from mail18-ch1 (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail18-ch1-R.bigfish.com
     (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7207C4001E1 for <recipient@domain.com>; Thu, 21 Dec 2013
     16:01:30 +0000 (UTC)
    X-Forefront-Antispam-Report: CIP:74.220.102.66;KIP:(null);UIP:(null);IPV:NLI;H:rfdsech7.eclipsenet.com;RD:66.102.220.74.virtela.net;EFVD:NLI
    X-SpamScore: -4
    X-BigFish: VPS-4(z569dhzbb2dIc85fh13e6Kzz1f42h2148h208ch1ee6h1de0h1fdah2073h2146h1202h1e76h2189h1d1ah1d2ah1fc6hzz1d7338h1de098h1b1984h17326ah8275bh1bc7b9h8275dh18c673h1de097h186068hz2dh54h109h2a8h839hd25hf0ah1288h12a5h12bdh137ah1441h14ddh1504h1537h153bh15d0h162dh1631h1758h18e1h1946h19b5h1a24h1a82h1b0ah1b2fh1bceh2222h224fh1fb3h1d0ch1d2eh1d3fh1dc1h1dfeh1dffh1e1dh1fe8h1ff5h20f0h2216h22d0h2336h1155h)
    Received: from mail18-ch1 (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mail18-ch1
     (MessageSwitch) id 1388073687825262_18249; Thu, 21 Dec 2013 16:01:27 +0000
     (UTC)
    Received: from CH1EHSMHS034.bigfish.com (snatpool2.int.messaging.microsoft.com
     [10.43.68.231]) by mail18-ch1.bigfish.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5657E008F
     for <recipient@domain.com>; Thu, 26 Dec 2013 16:01:27 +0000 (UTC)
    Received: from rfdsech7.eclipsenet.com (74.220.102.66) by
     CH1EHSMHS034.bigfish.com (10.43.70.34) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id
     14.16.227.3; Thu, 21 Dec 2013 16:01:27 +0000
    Received: from sender.server.com(192.168.x.x) by
     sender.server.com(192.168.x.x)  with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id
     8.3.342.0; Thu, 26 Dec 2013 10:01:25 -0600
    Received: from sender.server.com ([fe80::4d97:29a6:2091:2997]) by
     Rsender.server.com ([fe80::4d97:29a6:2091:2997%13]) with mapi id
     14.02.0387.000; Sat, 21 Dec 2013 10:01:25 -0600
    From: send (sender@domain.com)
    To: reciepient (email@domain.com)
    Subject: HELLO
    Thread-Topic: HELLO
    X-ASG-Orig-Subj: HELLO
    Thread-Index: Ac8CU7mcqD53cg88QGuMFIlOBMW97w==
    Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2013 16:01:24 +0000
    Message-ID: <6A60D1C013EDF74DBC34557588AA9344042EF8@RFDSECH01.eclipsenet.com>
    Accept-Language: en-US
    Content-Language: en-US
    X-MS-Has-Attach: yes
    X-MS-TNEF-Correlator:
    x-originating-ip: [192.168.x.x]
    Content-Type: multipart/related;
     boundary="_004_6A60D1C013EDF74DBC34557588AA9344042EF8RFDSECH01eclipsen_";
     type="multipart/alternative"
    MIME-Version: 1.0
    X-FOPE-CONNECTOR: Id%0$Dn%*$RO%0$TLS%0$FQDN%$TlsDn%
    X-Barracuda-Connect: ch1ehsobe005.messaging.microsoft.com[216.32.181.185]
    X-Barracuda-Start-Time: 1388073691
    X-Barracuda-Encrypted: AES128-SHA
    X-Barracuda-URL: http://192.168.X.X:9000/cgi-mod/mark.cgi
    X-Virus-Scanned: by bsmtpd at DOMAIN.COM
    X-Barracuda-BRTS-Status: 1
    X-Barracuda-Spam-Score: 0.00
    X-Barracuda-Spam-Status: No, SCORE=0.00 using per-user scores of TAG_LEVEL=3.5 QUARANTINE_LEVEL=6.5 KILL_LEVEL=6.0 tests=EXTRA_MPART_TYPE, HTML_MESSAGE
    X-Barracuda-Spam-Report: Code version 3.2, rules version 3.2.2.143426
     Rule breakdown below
      pts rule name              description
     ---- ---------------------- --------------------------------------------------
     0.00 EXTRA_MPART_TYPE       Header has extraneous Content-type:...type= entry
     0.00 HTML_MESSAGE           BODY: HTML included in message
    Return-Path: sender@domaon.com
    X-TM-AS-Product-Ver: SMEX-11.0.0.1191-7.000.1014-20300.000
    X-TM-AS-Result: No--21.193100-8.000000-31
    X-TM-AS-User-Approved-Sender: No



    • Edited by Zoomy22020 Thursday, December 26, 2013 6:50 PM
    Thursday, December 26, 2013 4:36 PM
  • Are you sure that the recipient's mailbox isn't still on Exchange 2007? AFAIR an Exchange 2007 HT server can't deliver e-mail to an Exchange 2010 mailbox. The "Received:" headers in that message don't show the 2007 server sending the message back to a 2010 HT server for delivery.

    Try this and see where the mailbox resides:

    get-mailbox email@domain.com | fl database


    --- Rich Matheisen MCSE&I, Exchange MVP

    Thursday, December 26, 2013 10:26 PM
  • Are you sure that the recipient's mailbox isn't still on Exchange 2007? AFAIR an Exchange 2007 HT server can't deliver e-mail to an Exchange 2010 mailbox. The "Received:" headers in that message don't show the 2007 server sending the message back to a 2010 HT server for delivery.

    Try this and see where the mailbox resides:

    get-mailbox email@domain.com | fl database


    --- Rich Matheisen MCSE&I, Exchange MVP

    That's correct Rich.  Store driver is tightly coupled to the version of the product.  However...

    if you have two AD sites we can transfer msg  2007 -> 2010 between them as that is just SMTP. 

    This is all a single AD site?


    Cheers,

    Rhoderick

    Microsoft Senior Exchange PFE

    Blog: http://blogs.technet.com/rmilne  Twitter:   LinkedIn:   Facebook:   XING:

    Note: Posts are provided “AS IS” without warranty of any kind, either expressed or implied, including but not limited to the implied warranties of merchantability and/or fitness for a particular purpose.

    Friday, December 27, 2013 2:58 AM
  • Hello Guys Thank you for your comments,

    The mailbox to which the email was being delivered to is definitely on Exchange 2010. Confirmed using command:

    get-mailbox email@domain.com | fl database

    It is all a single AD site.

    Little more background behind this message; the header  is from a  message that was sent to Scan Mail software on Exchange 2007 CAS and from there I released it and looked at its header.

    So based on that I am thinking that there still some mail being routed through Exchange 2007 CAS because it did not go to the Scan Mail software on the 2010 CAS.

    Friday, December 27, 2013 9:26 PM
  • Hello Guys Thank you for your comments,

    The mailbox to which the email was being delivered to is definitely on Exchange 2010. Confirmed using command:

    get-mailbox email@domain.com | fl database

    It is all a single AD site.

    Little more background behind this message; the header  is from a  message that was sent to Scan Mail software on Exchange 2007 CAS and from there I released it and looked at its header.

    So based on that I am thinking that there still some mail being routed through Exchange 2007 CAS because it did not go to the Scan Mail software on the 2010 CAS.

    Friday, December 27, 2013 9:26 PM
  • But that transfer, even between two HT server roles (even if they were running the same versions of Exchange) in the same AD Site would still have an additional "Received:" header, wouldn't it??? That's what I don't see in the message headers. I'd expect to see a "Received:" header inserted by the 2010 server saying it was received from the 2007 server.

    There's no magical transfer using RPC between HT servers is there?


    --- Rich Matheisen MCSE&I, Exchange MVP

    Friday, December 27, 2013 10:35 PM
  • The message went to your 2007 server because that's where the recipient "lives".

    Stripped down, the message path looks like this (read from the bottom, up):

    Received: from exchange2010cas.domain.com (192.168.x.x) by exchange2007cas.domain.com
    Received: from barracuda.domain.com (192.168.x.x) by exchange2010cas.domain.com
    Received: from ch1outboundpool.messaging.microsoft.com
      (ch1ehsobe005.messaging.microsoft.com [216.32.181.185]) by
      barracuda.domain.com  with ESMTP id C2frFhA75GuFi7aH (version=TLSv1

    I guess I'd have to ask what the "Scan Mail Software" is. Since whatever it is happens to be on Exchange 2007 the headers make sense. But if by "releasing it" the message was delivered to a mailbox on Exchange 2010, I'd expect to see another "Received:" header in the message once it arrived in the mailbox on the 2010 server.


    --- Rich Matheisen MCSE&I, Exchange MVP

    • Marked as answer by Zoomy22020 Monday, February 17, 2014 4:13 PM
    Friday, December 27, 2013 10:48 PM