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Word 2010 scroll

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  • Did they fix the non-auto scroll problem of Word 2007 in 2010?  It's annoying to be typing along and not have the text scroll down on its own.  Instead you have to stop and manually scroll down, which is ridiculous for a word processing program.
    Sunday, November 14, 2010 9:03 PM

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  • Actually, it is a scrolling problem with Word.


    No, it isn't. Microsoft Word does, in fact, scroll as it is designed to do. The issue is that you think Microsoft Word should emulate Word Perfect.

    It doesn't scroll down as you type.  It waits until you get to the very bottom of the screen and then it will scroll down one line.


    Exactly! That's what Microsoft Word is designed to do. Moreover, Microsoft Word has operated on this same design principle for well over a decade. in other words, this isn't some retrograde 'feature' introduced with Microsoft Word 2007.

    That's the only scrolling I see it doing anyhow ... In a normal word processing program, as you type, it scrolls down along with you so that you can see what you're typing better.  In Word I find I have to manually scroll it to get it to a normal view, and then it will go along, not scrolling, until I get to the very last line, and then it will only scroll one line so unless I manually scroll, I'm always at the bottom of the screen.  Word Perfect, on the other hand, just scrolls naturally. ... Ask anyone who transcribes for a living and they would tell you they don't want their text on the bottom of the screen as they type.

    So, the real issue is that you don't like the fact that Microsoft Word waits till you've filled the screen until scrolling up sufficiently far to keep as much as possible of what you've already typed in view. That design decision allows you to see more of the context to which you're adding than starting to scroll when you're only halfway down the screen ever could. As for your comment about people who transcribe for a living, I'd suggest far more typists make their living using Microsoft Word than have ever used Word Perfect. If you're happy having the text scrolling when you're only halfway down the screen, the solution is simple - resize Microsoft Word's window so that it only occupies the upper part of the screen.

    I don't know if you have a vested interest in denying that it's a problem or what.

    I have no particular connection with Microsoft, other than being an MVP, and certainly no vested interest.
     


    Cheers

    macropod MS MVP - Word

    • Marked as answer by Sally Tang Wednesday, November 24, 2010 9:12 AM
    Thursday, November 18, 2010 7:14 AM

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  • Hi Housecat,

    What "non-auto scroll problem of Word 2007 "? I've been using Word 2007 for a few years now and have never encountered such a problem. If there ever was an issue, it was most likely with your system's display driver and not with Word at all.


    Cheers

    macropod MS MVP - Word

    Monday, November 15, 2010 5:08 AM
  • Scrolling works fine in both products. The problem is most likely to be associated with Intellitype. Use the basic mouse driver instead.



    <Housecat9> wrote in message news:84d857df-7202-4c87-bd56-7c52200955df@communitybridge.codeplex.com...

    Did they fix the non-auto scroll problem of Word 2007 in 2010?  It's annoying to be typing along and not have the text scroll down on its own. Instead you have to stop and manually scroll down, which is ridiculous for a word processing program.


    Graham Mayor - Word MVP
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    Monday, November 15, 2010 6:02 AM
  • I guess I hadn't found the right forum for this before.  Actually, I was in other forums where other people had posed the same question, and the only response was how to create a macro to make it scroll down, which still means you stop typing in order to perform the macro so that you can see what you're typing.  It didn't make it do it itself and actually involved more steps then just using the mouse to hit the down arrow to scroll down.  I have Vista on the computer where I use Word most often.  I have Windows XP on another computer - which reminds me.  On the Windows XP computer, I have an older version of Corel Word Perfect and it scrolls automatically, but on the same computer, the Word 2007 does not.  Wouldn't both programs have the same driver?

     

    Anyway, how do I reset the system's display driver so that it will perform correctly?

     

    Thanks for your help!


    Jean Knowlton
    Monday, November 15, 2010 1:39 PM
  • Hi Jean,

    Yes, both apps would use the same display driver, but it seems Word is more demanding on display drivers than many other apps and, if the driver isn't up to scratch, issues such as the one you're describing do arise.


    Cheers

    macropod MS MVP - Word

    Monday, November 15, 2010 9:09 PM
  • I looked in System under Mouse and didn't see anything about Intellitype.  I searched for Intellitype on Word Help and didn't find anything about it there either.  How do I access whatever menu I need to get to in order to change the driver from Intellitype?

    Jean Knowlton
    Monday, November 15, 2010 10:28 PM
  • Hi Jean,

    if it's installed, the Intellitype mouse driver should appear in the Windows Control panel. If you didn't find anything, it's probably because you're not using the Intellitype mouse driver.


    Cheers

    macropod MS MVP - Word

    Monday, November 15, 2010 10:38 PM
  • Hi Jean,

    Re: "how do I reset the system's display driver so that it will perform correctly?"

    You would need to download and install an updated driver from your display card's maker.


    Cheers

    macropod MS MVP - Word

    Monday, November 15, 2010 10:39 PM
  • Then if it's not the Intellitype mouse driver causing the problem, isn't it actually a problem with Word?  I would think the mouse driver would not have anything to do with it, and if it does, that they should do whatever it is Word Perfect is doing to make it scroll more efficiently for everyone, regardless of their mouse driver.  I'm someone who does a lot of typing, and this is really very annoying.  I also checked to update the driver to see if that would help, but it said I already had the latest update.
    Jean Knowlton
    Wednesday, November 17, 2010 3:10 AM
  • Hi Jean,

    If it was a problem intrinsic to MS Word, there'd have been a deluge of complaints about it before now - and a prompt fix from MS. Speaking of which, is your copy of Office fully updated?

    Re: I also checked to update the driver to see if that would help, but it said I already had the latest update.
    I take it you mean that you checked the display driver. Did you check the display card maker's website, or your PC maker's website? Might be worth checking both. BIOS and driver updates from the PC maker's website might interact with the display driver.


    Cheers

    macropod MS MVP - Word

    Wednesday, November 17, 2010 5:24 AM
  • Actually, there has been a deluge of that complaint on other forums I've visited.  Microsoft has been really difficult to contact.  I tried searching for Microsoft contact info and couldn't get in touch with anyone there that way.  I think there was an email address I eventually found and sent an email, but never received a reply.  I just happened upon this forum by chance. 

    As I stated in earlier posts, the only solution offered on other forums where this complaint came up was by other users and it was to create a macro to scroll down, which didn't really solve the problem since it was just as much trouble to run a macro as to use the mouse and hit the down arrow to scroll.  You had to interrupt your typing to do both.  I still don't see any solutions offered here to fix it, and believe it must be a problem with Word since Word Perfect scrolls nicely with no extra added fuss with drivers or anything else.  If Microsoft hasn't received complaints, they just haven't been visiting other forums and chat rooms.  This has been a very common topic on word processing forums.  See http://www.wordbanter.com/showthread.php?t=119924


    Jean Knowlton
    Wednesday, November 17, 2010 2:34 PM
  • Also, I should mention, it does scroll, but the text is way down at the bottom of the screen, and when you use players to transcribe from, that is often on the bottom of the screen as well, so you would rather have the text in the middle of the screen than on the very bottom.


    Jean Knowlton
    Wednesday, November 17, 2010 7:24 PM
  • If this is the case then surely the problem is the positioning of your windows and not Word scrolling.  If the bottom of the Word windows is above the top of your player window, the text in the Word document will scroll before it is interfered with by your player.

    It may mean you have to set the window positions and sizes manually. But once set their posions will be retained. Show Windows Stacked on the Task bar right click menu is probably a go starting point.


    G North MMI
    Wednesday, November 17, 2010 8:51 PM
  • I'm not sure I know what you mean by it not being a Word scrolling problem, when Word Perfect scrolls down so that what you're typing is in the middle of the screen without having to set any screens or drivers or anything else.  Word just has a goofy way of scrolling where the line you're typing is at the very bottom of the screen, which is not a normal place for viewing what you're typing as you type.  I don't think it has anything to do with windows being stacked or anything like that, it's just the weird way Word scrolls on the screen.

    The player is a separate program and its icon is just displayed wherever I happen to drag it, and that's usually at the bottom so I can see the counter because sometimes I have log notes that correspond to it.  I usually put it on the lower left side of the screen, and if Word would display centrally on the screen and scroll that way, where I put the player wouldn't be a problem.  It doesn't interfere with what I'm typing because the icon for the player is there.


    Jean Knowlton
    Wednesday, November 17, 2010 9:15 PM
  • Your original post;

    "Did they fix the non-auto scroll problem of Word 2007 in 2010?  It's annoying to be typing along and not have the text scroll down on its own.  Instead you have to stop and manually scroll down, which is ridiculous for a word processing program."
    suggest there is an issue with Word not scrolling.
    However it appears that your saying Word doesn't work the same way as WordPerfect in respect to the point at which scrolling of text starts.
    I'm sure WordPerfect doesn't let you change this feature, just like Word doesn't have the capability either. Both programs are written to a specification and do what they were designed to do, the rest is pesonal preference.

    G North MMI
    Wednesday, November 17, 2010 9:55 PM
  • I'm not sure I know what you mean by it not being a Word scrolling problem, when Word Perfect scrolls down so that what you're typing is in the middle of the screen without having to set any screens or drivers or anything else.  Word just has a goofy way of scrolling where the line you're typing is at the very bottom of the screen, which is not a normal place for viewing what you're typing as you type.  I don't think it has anything to do with windows being stacked or anything like that, it's just the weird way Word scrolls on the screen.

    Ah, so what we're dealing with here is merely a matter of personal preference as to how Word Perfect works compared to Microsoft Word. That does not constitute a Microsoft Word program fault!! It would have been helpful if you's told us what your issue was from the outset. Up until now, your posts have implied that Microsoft Word was not scrolling at all and that what was being typed was not visible once the text reached the bottom of the screen.
    Cheers

    macropod MS MVP - Word

    Wednesday, November 17, 2010 10:15 PM
  • Actually, it is a scrolling problem with Word.  It doesn't scroll down as you type.  It waits until you get to the very bottom of the screen and then it will scroll down one line.  That's the only scrolling I see it doing anyhow, which is largely inadequate and leaves me having to manually scroll if I want to clearly view my text in a normal manner. In a normal word processing program, as you type, it scrolls down along with you so that you can see what you're typing better.  In Word I find I have to manually scroll it to get it to a normal view, and then it will go along, not scrolling, until I get to the very last line, and then it will only scroll one line so unless I manually scroll, I'm always at the bottom of the screen.  Word Perfect, on the other hand, just scrolls naturally.  Others have commented on this being an annoying feature of Word.  I don't know if you have a vested interest in denying that it's a problem or what.  It isn't just my own preference.  Ask anyone who transcribes for a living and they would tell you they don't want their text on the bottom of the screen as they type.

    Jean Knowlton
    Wednesday, November 17, 2010 10:53 PM
  • Actually, it is a scrolling problem with Word.


    No, it isn't. Microsoft Word does, in fact, scroll as it is designed to do. The issue is that you think Microsoft Word should emulate Word Perfect.

    It doesn't scroll down as you type.  It waits until you get to the very bottom of the screen and then it will scroll down one line.


    Exactly! That's what Microsoft Word is designed to do. Moreover, Microsoft Word has operated on this same design principle for well over a decade. in other words, this isn't some retrograde 'feature' introduced with Microsoft Word 2007.

    That's the only scrolling I see it doing anyhow ... In a normal word processing program, as you type, it scrolls down along with you so that you can see what you're typing better.  In Word I find I have to manually scroll it to get it to a normal view, and then it will go along, not scrolling, until I get to the very last line, and then it will only scroll one line so unless I manually scroll, I'm always at the bottom of the screen.  Word Perfect, on the other hand, just scrolls naturally. ... Ask anyone who transcribes for a living and they would tell you they don't want their text on the bottom of the screen as they type.

    So, the real issue is that you don't like the fact that Microsoft Word waits till you've filled the screen until scrolling up sufficiently far to keep as much as possible of what you've already typed in view. That design decision allows you to see more of the context to which you're adding than starting to scroll when you're only halfway down the screen ever could. As for your comment about people who transcribe for a living, I'd suggest far more typists make their living using Microsoft Word than have ever used Word Perfect. If you're happy having the text scrolling when you're only halfway down the screen, the solution is simple - resize Microsoft Word's window so that it only occupies the upper part of the screen.

    I don't know if you have a vested interest in denying that it's a problem or what.

    I have no particular connection with Microsoft, other than being an MVP, and certainly no vested interest.
     


    Cheers

    macropod MS MVP - Word

    • Marked as answer by Sally Tang Wednesday, November 24, 2010 9:12 AM
    Thursday, November 18, 2010 7:14 AM
  • I think a lot of people who transcribe or type for a living would agree with me that it is annoying to have the "design decision" of not scrolling until you're at the very bottom of the screen.  Most people want to see what they're typing as they're typing it, and what they've typed already does not need to be front and center.  What is currently being typed should be comfortably in front of them, so I think those making design decisions might want to consider that.  A lot of people have complained about this, everyone I know who transcribes for a living and who have to use Word dislike that feature.  A person should be able to position their current line in the center of the screen, and then have the text continue to scroll down as they type, not wait until they're at the very bottom of the screen before scrolling.  I think the designers must be very out of touch with actual users.

    Jean Knowlton
    Thursday, November 18, 2010 1:04 PM
  • I think Macropod was trying to be helpful, so don't go all postal on my behalf, anyway. I think a better design decision would obviously be to allow text to scroll from wherever a user puts the cursor. If someone needs to see the whole page, they should be the one who has to stop typing and scroll, because that is a much more unlikely preference.
    Jean Knowlton
    Wednesday, April 27, 2011 5:07 PM
  • I have the same problem

    How did you fix it finally?

     

    Wednesday, July 06, 2011 1:27 AM
  • If you read some of the other posts, you'll see that there is no way to fix it. Someone at Microsoft thought it was a good idea not to have the text scroll until you got to the very bottom of the screen. Obviously a decision made by people who don't use Word a lot. I just scroll up using the mouse, which is kind of annoying. I think most of us would prefer that it automatically scroll from wherever we have our cursor set, and scroll along as we type, instead of waiting until we're at the bottom of the screen to scroll up one line!

    Jean Knowlton
    Wednesday, July 06, 2011 2:26 AM
  • I know this thread is several years old, but I completely agree with everything Housecat9 is complaining about. I am a FT college student, and have to write papers all the time. I finally got fed up and found this forum looking for the same solution Houscat9 did nearly 2 years ago. I can agree it is extremely taxing having to focus at the bottom of the screen as you type or forced to manual scroll with a mouse or macro. That just interrupts your work and is rather irritating, which is the reason I am here. It's completely ridiculous that after a decade that such a simple feature, that is an inherent feature of the typewriter, hasn't been in any way incorporated into Word as an available option.

    Perhaps the elite at MS don't get what consumers want. If the majority of the people are like me in relation to reading, then this may make some sense to people. I tend to focus on what is directly in front of me (towards the center of the screen); continue to scroll through so I can still comfortably focus towards the center while reading on; and finally only reading the bottom of the screen when I am forced to at the end of the document, because scrolling is no longer available. I am sure I not alone in this as I have observed other's reading habits on the computers at school and work. So why would anyone force the majority to do the direct opposite when typing? It's not natural. If anyone at MS actually reads this and cares, please consider these feedback to make your product better.

    BTW  A simple, free word processing program such as WriteMonkey even has this feature. They even call it "Typewriter scrolling." 


    • Edited by Engi-nerdy Tuesday, July 24, 2012 10:49 AM
    Tuesday, July 24, 2012 8:55 AM
  • This is how I managed:

    1. In the ribbon, go to View and Draft mode.
    2. Then, View and Split.
    3. The splitting line will be in the middle. Position it wherever you want or leave it there.
    4. Scroll full down the lower view (so that nothing of what you are going to write appear).
    5. Hide the Ruler, so the splitting line gets thinner.
    6. Write on the upper section, of course.

    That’s it. Note: you can change the upper view to other modes (outline, etc.).

     

    I hope this is useful for someone.

     

    In Spanish:

     Así es cómo me manejo:

    1.        En la cinta, ir a Vista y modo Borrador.
    2.        Luego, Vista y Dividir.
    3.        La línea de división estará en el medio. Posicionarla donde se desee o dejarla ahí.
    4.        Desplazarse (scroll) hasta debajo de todo en la pantalla inferior (para que no aparezca nada de lo que se escribirá).
    5.        Esconder la Regla, para que la línea de división sea más fina.
    6.        Escribir en la sección de arriba, por supuesto.

    Eso es todo. Nota: se puede cambiar la vista superior a otros modos (Esquema, etc.).

    Espero que a alguien le sirva.

    Saturday, July 13, 2013 9:34 PM
  • Thank you!  That works!

    Jean Knowlton

    Monday, July 15, 2013 12:46 AM
  • Well, guess I should say it's better than nothing.  It still isn't a natural typewriter scroll like I'd like and sometimes I still wind up mouse-scrolling using the split screen because I don't like the text right on that bar at the bottom no matter where I put it, I'd like more white space between what I'm typing that that bar. Even though I can put the bar more at eye level, there's still that one line only scroll when it gets right down against that bar.

    Jean Knowlton

    Friday, July 19, 2013 12:21 AM
  • I agree. This is an annoyance. I hate waiting until the end of the last line for Word to scroll down.

    Yeah, if you wait long enough it will eventually scroll down. But that's not helpful.

    and don't tell me "Word has always been like that" just cause it was wrong before doesn't make it right now.  

    Wednesday, November 13, 2013 11:06 PM
  • Have you tried the workaround suggested by Elpiman on Saturday, July 13, 2013?

    Cheers
    Paul Edstein
    [MS MVP - Word]

    Wednesday, November 13, 2013 11:12 PM
  • yes I did, it sort of helps, but this is something that should be controllable.

    Every two years MS upgrades Word and you have to spend hundreds of dollars if you want to go along; you'd think this would be configurable, like "scroll down when we are 2 lines from the bottom or something like that"  they got an army of developers and should be able to address it.

    sorry but I'm not gonna apologize for MS. when you see Steve Ballmer dancing around the stage at some big tech conference announcing the rollout of one upgrade or another (i.e. Word 2010, then Word 2013), and then you get it and see the limitations you just think he's a big marketing clown and we're spending money for nothing. 

    Wednesday, November 13, 2013 11:43 PM
  • I agree. Any sensible software designer would check with transcribers to see how well they think Word is working before releasing a new version.  The feedback they would be absolutely sure to get would be to use typewriter scrolling, not the last line scroll they have in place now. Nobody who types a lot with Word likes that and the work around from the nice person above, as I said before, is better than nothing but still not nearly as good as merely changing the design so it will scroll along as you type. I'm sure it's not all that hard of a fix since other word processing programs do have it.

    Jean Knowlton

    Thursday, November 14, 2013 12:15 AM