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Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit backup failed (0x80780119)

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  • first I try to install windows 7 ultimate RTM 64 bit on Hitachi 80G sata hard drive, after fresh install I create a system Image to DVD it backup ok no problem at all.

    I received seagate 320G HD replace, I restore the Image from DVD to 320G hard drive, after I install photoshop and some thing I need. now I try to make a system image to external hard drive or dvd I got the same error 
    " Threre is not enough disk space to create the volum shadow copy on storage location. Make sure that for all volume to be backup up, the minimum disk space required for shadow copy creation is available. this applies to both the backup storage destination and volume included in the backup. Minimum requirement for Volumes less than 500 megabytes, the minimum is 50 megabyte of free space. for voulimes more than 500 megabytes, the minimum is 320 megabytes of free space. Recommended at least 1 gigabytes free of disk space on each volumes if volumes size is more than 1 gigabytes (0x80780119)"

    I unplug all device just use only seagate 320GB and My external hard drive has 400G space.

    some one help please.
    Saturday, August 29, 2009 5:27 AM

Answers

  •  

    According to the error message, it indicated that there is not enough disk space to do a system image backup on the computer. Firstly, Windows 7 has a 100MB system partition that Windows setup during the installation that was under capacity, but not every computer has the 100M on their computer. Now, I suggest you check the disk usage in disk management carefully and make sure all the partitions have enough space to do system backup image:

     

    Click Start->Right Click on Computer->Choose Manage->Expand Storage->Click on Disk Management

     

    You can see the clearly of the usage of the whole hard drive. Please check it carefully and make sure all partitions have enough space.

     

    Notice: if you have some hidden partition on the computer, please also make sure the hidden partition has the enough rest space to do the system image on the computer.

     

    If you only have one partition to save the system files on the computer, maybe there will be a problem of backup system image. At this time, we can shrink a partition in disk management, and then do a system backup again to test this issue.

     

    Also, this error may be caused by the system image backup configuration on the computer or some related components or services or registry incorrect on the computer, you can follow the below steps to check it firstly:

     

    1. Run “vssadmin list writers” to check if there is any error.

    2. Register related dll files (we can ignore error messages if there is any)

     

    cd /d %windir%\system32

    Net stop vss

    Net stop swprv

    regsvr32 ole32.dll

    regsvr32 vss_ps.dll

    regsvr32 es.dll

    regsvr32 stdprov.dll

    regsvr32 msxml3.dll

    regsvr32 msxml.dll

    regsvr32 msxml4.dll

     

    3. Stop related services

     

    a) Volume Shadow Copy Service.

    b) Microsoft Software Shadow Copy Provider.

    c) COM+ event system

    d) COM+ System Application

     

    4. Under HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE \Software\Microsoft\EventSystem\{26c409cc-ae86-11d1-b616-00805fc79216}\Subscript, delete the "Subscriptions" key and leave the EventClasses key

     

    5. Under HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\VolSnap add MinDiffAreaFileSize (DWORD) and set the value to 3000

     

    6. Restart above services

    7. Restart to check the issue

     

    And then, you can follow the below detail instructions to set the configuration and do a system image backup again:

     

    How to Create a System Image Backup in Windows 7

     

    In addition, you can try to back up the whole system image on the local disk to test this issue, please don’t backup the system image on the external hard drive or DVD directly. If you can back up the whole system image on the local disk, we can copy the system image to your external hard disk or DVD.


    Also, you can use a different imaging app to do a system image. Such as Macrium Reflect FREE Edition - Information and download
     

    Betty

    • Marked as answer by Novak Wu Friday, September 04, 2009 9:50 AM
    Thursday, September 03, 2009 6:58 AM

All replies

  •  

    According to the error message, it indicated that there is not enough disk space to do a system image backup on the computer. Firstly, Windows 7 has a 100MB system partition that Windows setup during the installation that was under capacity, but not every computer has the 100M on their computer. Now, I suggest you check the disk usage in disk management carefully and make sure all the partitions have enough space to do system backup image:

     

    Click Start->Right Click on Computer->Choose Manage->Expand Storage->Click on Disk Management

     

    You can see the clearly of the usage of the whole hard drive. Please check it carefully and make sure all partitions have enough space.

     

    Notice: if you have some hidden partition on the computer, please also make sure the hidden partition has the enough rest space to do the system image on the computer.

     

    If you only have one partition to save the system files on the computer, maybe there will be a problem of backup system image. At this time, we can shrink a partition in disk management, and then do a system backup again to test this issue.

     

    Also, this error may be caused by the system image backup configuration on the computer or some related components or services or registry incorrect on the computer, you can follow the below steps to check it firstly:

     

    1. Run “vssadmin list writers” to check if there is any error.

    2. Register related dll files (we can ignore error messages if there is any)

     

    cd /d %windir%\system32

    Net stop vss

    Net stop swprv

    regsvr32 ole32.dll

    regsvr32 vss_ps.dll

    regsvr32 es.dll

    regsvr32 stdprov.dll

    regsvr32 msxml3.dll

    regsvr32 msxml.dll

    regsvr32 msxml4.dll

     

    3. Stop related services

     

    a) Volume Shadow Copy Service.

    b) Microsoft Software Shadow Copy Provider.

    c) COM+ event system

    d) COM+ System Application

     

    4. Under HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE \Software\Microsoft\EventSystem\{26c409cc-ae86-11d1-b616-00805fc79216}\Subscript, delete the "Subscriptions" key and leave the EventClasses key

     

    5. Under HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\VolSnap add MinDiffAreaFileSize (DWORD) and set the value to 3000

     

    6. Restart above services

    7. Restart to check the issue

     

    And then, you can follow the below detail instructions to set the configuration and do a system image backup again:

     

    How to Create a System Image Backup in Windows 7

     

    In addition, you can try to back up the whole system image on the local disk to test this issue, please don’t backup the system image on the external hard drive or DVD directly. If you can back up the whole system image on the local disk, we can copy the system image to your external hard disk or DVD.


    Also, you can use a different imaging app to do a system image. Such as Macrium Reflect FREE Edition - Information and download
     

    Betty

    • Marked as answer by Novak Wu Friday, September 04, 2009 9:50 AM
    Thursday, September 03, 2009 6:58 AM
  • Hi,

    I'm having the same problem.  In my case, my 100MB "System Reserved" partition is using 62.2 MB of space, so there isn't 50MB available to create the system image.  I tried shrinking my C: partition, but Disk Management would not let me expand the 100MB partition to include the freed up space.

    I looked at the system reserved partition (all hidden system files by default), but all of the files listed did not add up to the 62.2 MB that the system claimed are in use.  I am wary of applying any tricks like compressing the drive contents since they need to be readable on boot.  There appear to be files for many languages... I would accept deleting all of the language files I don't use, but I have not tried it yet.

    Is there anyway for me to create a disk image using windows backup?  I'd rather not move to a 3rd party solution unless it was absolutely necessary.


    It seems foolish to me that following the recommended Win7 installation partitioning can prevent windows backup from creating a disk image... is the System Reserved partition not supposed to have more than 50 MB of data?  For future Win7 installations, should I increase the size of the System Reserved partition to avoid this issue?

    Thanks for your help!

    Monday, September 28, 2009 2:55 AM
  • Exact same issue.
    Cant backup my 1 terabyte partition becaust the system image partition has 64MB out of 100MB in use.
    Cant expand the system image partition.
    Assigned a drive letter and was able to look at the files but unkeen to modify.
    The Backup Team need to work on backup system image application to remove this limitation.

    Nuff said.
    Thursday, October 01, 2009 2:28 AM
  • Hi,

    You could run into this issue if your System Reserved (100 MB) partition is running out of space (<40 MB free). Verify if that is the case. If so, I have posted a workaround here: http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/w7itprogeneral/thread/fce6950d-c06d-4dd0-a850-67022db4fe04/

    Hope it helps.

    Thanks,
    Sneha
    [MSFT]
    Thursday, November 05, 2009 2:11 PM
  • Hi All,

    This appears to be a problem with BitDefender software turning on a journaling option for the system reserved partition.  I tested on a clean install, and it worked fine until I installed BitDefender Internet Security 2010.  In this case, there is about 30 MB of free space on the system reserved partition.  If I increase the partition size, then I can successfully create a disk image.

    Thanks,
    Brian
    Sunday, February 21, 2010 9:50 PM
  • A Workaround Without Repartitioning:

    When trying to make a system image of Windows 7, I got error 0x80780119.  After searching this thread (plus others), I found my 100 MB System Reserved partition had grown a large USN journal.  I assigned it drive letter F:\.

    Fsutil usn queryjournal F:

    Then I ran this command to clear and disable the USN journal on my System Reserved partition:

    fsutil usn deletejournal /N /D F:

    This freed 48 MB.  The USN journal on my System Reserved partition remained disabled after a reboot, which I verified by re-running the query.  Subsequently, I was able to make a system image without error.

    Look here for details on FSUtil: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc788042(WS.10).aspx

    Mancer, MCITP-EA
    • Proposed as answer by sudeep.u Saturday, April 21, 2012 10:04 PM
    Wednesday, February 24, 2010 1:30 AM
  • I changed the Windows 7 (64-bit) 100 MB System Partition (located below the C: partition) to 1,000 MB.

          (The main hard drive, and USB backup hard drive were both 500GB.)

    To do that I used the free Partition Wizard application.  ONLY the "Bootable CD" version!
          Visit:  http://www.partitionwizard.com/download.html


    I placed it on a CD-ROM disk, then used it to boot the computer. The partition changes were easy to do. 


    Then the changed 1,000 MB System Partition allowed the System Image backup:  C:  D:  E:  F:  G:  H:

    Saturday, May 01, 2010 10:46 PM
  • all i get from you folks are suggestions that i do not understand. i am not a computer repairman i am a carpernter. first when i type in vssadmin list writers nothing happens.  Second i do not know how to create a partition. third how about a patch or update or a cure, not try this or try that. I bought a product that I expect to work. how about you make arrangements with me to do a remote repair, I will make myself available to you for that service. If not just tell me this can I insert my windows media edition disc and put my system back the way it was and get rid of this product that no one seems to have a fix for. Or wants to charge me to repair it.   I have a external hard drive that I am trying to back up to,  I do not know how to add a partition to it. I am tired of your windows answers with no answers. I believe I speak for myself and all the other people with the same problem.
    Wednesday, May 12, 2010 12:40 AM
  • Sneha

    I have read at least half a dozen "you can try" from and least three or four different threads all written by MSFT people. None of which seem to work, besides that I am not a tech person and most of this is over my head anyway. I do not know how to increase, or create a partition either in my c drive or my external HD. What I have determined is that there is a issue with this program and that MS does not have a fix for it.

    Can you tell me in simple english how to save my docs,pics,music, favorites and some programs and re-install my media edition? I do have a external HD, I imagine that this will allow me to move these items to it then reinstall the discs that came from dell and then move these items back to my system. I am not a computer tech, most of what I have read is over my head. I paid someone to upgrade my system, he is now avoiding me because he is unable to cure this problem.

    The only other thing I can think of is for MS to do a remote repair to my system, you have sold me a defective product and tech support wants to charge me to repair it. Please let me know how we should handle this situation

    by the way Disc 0 says system reserved 100MB Healthy system  C  74.41 GB Healthy(boot,page file, crash dump,primary partition

    Disk 1 (which I assume is my external) 232.88 GB NTFS  Healthy(Active primary partition)

    Thank you

    I look forward to you prompt respone

    Spencer

    Wednesday, May 12, 2010 11:37 PM
  • ================== 0x80780119 =============

    The simple solution goes as follows:

    1) Right click on Computer from your Desktop and select 'Manage'.

    2) Select 'Disk Management'

    3) Right click on your OS disk and select 'Make Active'

    =======================================

    Monday, May 24, 2010 1:26 AM
  • not the correct answer
    Tuesday, May 25, 2010 8:34 PM
  • ================== 0x80780119 =============

    The simple solution goes as follows:

    1) Right click on Computer from your Desktop and select 'Manage'.

    2) Select 'Disk Management'

    3) Right click on your OS disk and select 'Make Active'

    =======================================

    This is ABSOLUTELY incorrect.  It' will cause a "BOOTMGR is missing" error next time you try to reboot... (Guess how I just learned that...)
    Saturday, June 26, 2010 5:59 AM
  • ================== 0x80780119 =============

    The simple solution goes as follows:

    1) Right click on Computer from your Desktop and select 'Manage'.

    2) Select 'Disk Management'

    3) Right click on your OS disk and select 'Make Active'

    =======================================

    This is ABSOLUTELY incorrect.  It' will cause a "BOOTMGR is missing" error next time you try to reboot... (Guess how I just learned that...)


    I've read all the problems and 'solutions' here and I'm surprised that users are not a great deal angrier. I've wasted hours and hours trying to run a Win 7 Home Premium backup with image and have failed six times. I've got two 1Tb hard drives with only 65Gbused in my primary partition. So I've got gobs of space left in my 2nd drive for backup/image storage.

     I also tried shrinking my primary partition so as to create some unallocated space with the erroneous idea that I could expand the System Reserved partition. I found that I was prohibited from expanding that System Reserved partion so I got nowhere. I'd read elsewhere that this 100mb partition is the culprit in this fiasco but cannot seem to find a way around it.

     In the past I've used third party backup software and have found ALL of them to be lacking in one critical way or another. My most recent trial involved the 'highly regarded' Acronis - its simply disfunctional.

     I'm at my wits end in this and need to back up my system. I'd had my Gateway DX for just four months when the thing died miserably and it was sent back to the factory for repair. I'd hoped that after waiting five weeks to get it back I could just run a backup and be on my way again...but no, there the old monster Microsoft was lurking to mess me up again. So just where are the 'experts' Microsoft? "Where oh where did your little lambs go, oh where or where could they be??"  

    Wednesday, June 30, 2010 9:45 PM
  • !!! HERE IS THE SOLUTION !!!

    Follow the steps bellow and you'll be able to perform the System Image Backup ( Win 7 / Win 2008 R2 )


    The cause:

    This issue probably occur after you perform a RESTORE of a System Image Backup ( I really don't know if there are another causes for this issue ). I just know that every time you perform a Restore of a System Image, some data will be created inside the System Reserved volume . This data, WONT be deleted after the restore. This is sad, but true ...you have to disable this data ONCE, and after all, your restores will not have this data anymore.

    The Solution:

    You have to "clean" the system reserved data ... I don't know the reason, but there is a content related to USN Journal ( don't ask me for the meaning of this content ).

    So, follow the steps bellow to clean this content, and be able to perform the image backup.

    1- Start>Run>diskmgmt.msc

    2- Right click on the System Reserved volume ( or partition ) and give it a letter ( I've used the letter Z )

    3- Start>Run>cmd

    4- Fsutil usn queryjournal Z:

    5- fsutil usn deletejournal /N /D Z:

    6- Create the System Image Backup again

    7- Repeat the steps 1 and 2 and REMOVE the letter from the System Reserved.

    You will see, that the command above, will give you 30~40Mb of space inside the System Reserved partition, what make possible the creation of the System Image Backup. And you wont need to set the C: Partition as active, or transfer the boot content to it.

    I've made a second restore to see if a USN Journal content were created in the system reserved partition and it wasn't. :)

    Regards

    Davi Nigro


    MCP / MCSA / MCSA+M.
    • Proposed as answer by Davi Nigro Monday, July 05, 2010 8:57 PM
    Monday, July 05, 2010 8:54 PM
  • I've had this problem, I have plenty of spare disk space but kept getting the back up failed insufficient space error.

    The cause and solution....

    System reserved partition didn't have enough free space to create the back up image temp files so I shrank the C: partition by 500mb, created new partition of 500mb and labelled it as active, restart with win 7 DVD and select start up repair ran it twice to create new MBR etc. When this is done and win 7 is starting witout any issues delete system reserved partition. Image backup has worked without a problem ever since.

    100mb may be more than enough to create a boot and recovery partiition but it doesn't allow enough space for the image backup temp files to be created.

    Saturday, July 17, 2010 12:44 AM
  • This is total BS from the tech's @ microsoft, the everyday user should never have to do this!!! As a note, I sent an e-mail to microsoft tech support about an I-D-1-0-T-S error I was getting and they replied back that were not familiar with this error and had referred it to bill gates since he is responsible for all the I-D-1-0-T-S  @ microsoft.
    Wednesday, July 21, 2010 6:17 PM
  • This is total BS from the tech's @ microsoft, the everyday user should never have to do this!!! As a note, I sent an e-mail to microsoft tech support about an I-D-1-0-T-S error I was getting and they replied back that were not familiar with this error and had referred it to bill gates since he is responsible for all the I-D-1-0-T-S  @ microsoft.
    Wednesday, July 21, 2010 6:18 PM
  • This is total BS from the tech's @ microsoft, the everyday user should never have to do this!!! As a note, I sent an e-mail to microsoft tech support about an I-D-1-0-T-S error I was getting and they replied back that were not familiar with this error and had referred it to bill gates since he is responsible for all the I-D-1-0-T-S  @ microsoft.


    lol superb

     

     

    Thursday, March 10, 2011 6:13 PM
  • Cracking! I can now finally use the Windows 7 backup utility. Followed the above steps from Betty He and the utility works like a dream :)

    Even managed to back up to a NAS drive :)

    Friday, April 08, 2011 12:31 PM
  • Thanks Davi Nigro,

    After restoring an old backup the backup utility didn't work. Your steps works perfect for me, thanks!! Problem solved.

    Friday, April 15, 2011 10:27 AM
  • I tried the various techniques mentioned here without success.  Finally tried the product Betty He mentioned (Macrium Reflect) and it worked great.  I should have spent 5 minutes installing it instead of hours troubleshooting.  (I have no relationship with this firm -- I'd never heard of them prior to this.)

    Friday, April 29, 2011 7:57 PM
  • I have this exact problem, right down to the fact that it started happening after performing an image restore.

    I tried to follow Davi Nigro's excellent script, but when I get to the diskmgt screen, I do not see any sign of a "system reserved" volume or partition. There are four partitions there - one that is just under 100mb, and Macrium Reflect sees as "Dell Utility", the C partition (285gb) and a D partition (20gb), and a 2.5 partition that seems to be related to Media Direct for my Dell laptop.

    I was unable to get to either of the partitions that have no drive letter. The 93mb partition just shows "Help" when I right click on it, and the Media Direct partition only has "Delete" active when I right click it.

    I have downloaded Macrium Reflect free, and am running an image backup now, but I would like to get back to being able to use Windows Backup for both file and image backups.

    Any other ideas, how I can get to that elusive system reserved data area, to clean out the journal file that is causing image backups to fail about 2/3 of the way along?

    Thanks,

    Worth

     


    Worth Robbins
    Sunday, May 01, 2011 12:27 PM
  • the problem is on system reserved space do like did nigro

    i sugest to verify if has been already made a backup and to delete on system reserved (if not needed anymore) to make space

    Tuesday, May 24, 2011 8:58 AM
  • I changed the Windows 7 (64-bit) 100 MB System Partition (located below the C: partition) to 1,000 MB.

          (The main hard drive, and USB backup hard drive were both 500GB.)

    To do that I used the free Partition Wizard application.  ONLY the "Bootable CD" version!
          Visit:  http://www.partitionwizard.com/download.html


    I placed it on a CD-ROM disk, then used it to boot the computer. The partition changes were easy to do. 


    Then the changed 1,000 MB System Partition allowed the System Image backup:  C:  D:  E:  F:  G:  H:


    This worked for me!

    I've got BitDefender, and couldn't do an Image backup because of 64MB used in the System Partition.

    I've never heard of Partition Wizard before, but I just downloaded it (only 8MB, IIRC) and ran it from my hard disk. It's got a beautiful UI with a clear picture of the disk partitions and operations to resize. I shrank the C: partition, and then expanded the System Partition to 980 MB (I left 20 MB unused at the top because of a msg I got - I don't know if it's necessary, and don't care!). My System Restore then worked.

    BUT!.. I had a big scare during one of the resize operations - PartitionWizard froze! I left it for 12 hours, afraid that if I shut down the computer the disk indexes would be lost. I eventually rebooted the computer. Windows 7 detected a disk problem and repaired it (quickly). Fortunately the disk was repaired with the partition operation completed, so all was well. If it hadn't repaired then I would have had to re-install Win7, and restore all my data from backups. My recommendation: use PartitionWizard, but make sure all important data has been backed up to an external disk first. 

    Also, Partition Wizard recommends that you turn off Power Management before resizing. Do it!

    Wednesday, June 15, 2011 5:16 AM
  • I changed the Windows 7 (64-bit) 100 MB System Partition (located below the C: partition) to 1,000 MB.

          (The main hard drive, and USB backup hard drive were both 500GB.)

    To do that I used the free Partition Wizard application.  ONLY the "Bootable CD" version!
          Visit:  http://www.partitionwizard.com/download.html


    I placed it on a CD-ROM disk, then used it to boot the computer. The partition changes were easy to do. 


    Then the changed 1,000 MB System Partition allowed the System Image backup:  C:  D:  E:  F:  G:  H:


    This worked for me!

    I've got BitDefender, and couldn't do an Image backup because of 64MB used in the System Partition.

    I've never heard of Partition Wizard before, but I just downloaded it (only 8MB, IIRC) and ran it from my hard disk. It's got a beautiful UI with a clear picture of the disk partitions and operations to resize. I shrank the C: partition, and then expanded the System Partition to 980 MB (I left 20 MB unused at the top because of a msg I got - I don't know if it's necessary, and don't care!). My System Restore then worked.

    BUT!.. I had a big scare during one of the resize operations - PartitionWizard froze! I left it for 12 hours, afraid that if I shut down the computer the disk indexes would be lost. I eventually rebooted the computer. Windows 7 detected a disk problem and repaired it (quickly). Fortunately the disk was repaired with the partition operation completed, so all was well. If it hadn't repaired then I would have had to re-install Win7, and restore all my data from backups. My recommendation: use PartitionWizard, but make sure all important data has been backed up to an external disk first. 

    Also, Partition Wizard recommends that you turn off Power Management before resizing. Do it!


    hi ,

    people , update !! and save on external hard drives to make sure your data is safe !

    have a nice weekend


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    Saturday, June 18, 2011 11:51 AM
  • Hello,

    If you read: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc788042(WS.10).aspx

    You will realize that you have just put off the inevitable or wasted disk space. The journal size will grow to max size.

    Wednesday, July 13, 2011 6:47 PM
  • I followed Davi Nigro's procedure dated Monday, July 05, 2010 8:54 PM, and it did not work - sorta.

    I went outside to let my neighbors and anyone driving by know exactly what I thought about Microsoft. I'm sure some will find an alternate road in the future. Out of breath, I went back.

    My computer went into sleep as it should have. I woke it up and looked at the amount of used / free space in the System Reverved volume because I was going to try more things. I noticed the free space was now 70 MB and the used was 30 MB. I reaalized from previous restores these are good numbers.

    I tried a System backup and it worked. So, Davi Nigro's procedure does appear to work, but after his procedure some event needs to occur to cause the journal to update and free up space. In my case it was the computer going to sleep and waking, or yelling a lot very loudly.

    Wednesday, July 13, 2011 7:20 PM
  •  

    This thread has been going on for TWO YEARS!

    And still no all-around solution.

     

    NONE of the offered fixes work for me.

     

    I have a 1000 MB (ONE GIGABYTE) boot patition, and there is less than 30 MB space left.The space is being eaten by the MICROSOFT page file. Which seems to grow and never shrink again ("pagefile.sys" 970 MB)  and NONE of the offered solutions even mention the page file.

    But why should the size of the boot partition even affect backing up?!#*!?

    By Microsoft's design, to have an effective backup system, one must create a system repair disk,which requires a system image to work effectively:


    "A system repair disc can be used to boot your computer ... restore your computer from a system image."

    But you can't create a system image file because windows uses the boot directory -- which is severely restricted in size -- for some WEIRD back-up aid.

     

    My image file appears to need 176 GB of available space. My backup disk has 400 GB of available space. My backup FAILS because there isn't enough space:

    "There is not enough disk space to create the volume shadow copy on the storage location. Make sure that for all volumes to be backup up, the minimum required disk space for shadow copy creation is available. This applies to both the backup storage destination and volumes included in the backup. Minimum requirement For volumes less than 500 megabytes, the minimum is 50 megabytes of free space. For volumes more than 500 megabytes, the minimum is 320 megabytes of free space. Recommended: At least 1 gigabyte of free disk space on each volume if volume size is more than 1 gigabyte. (0x80780119)"

    Add all these factors together and one wonders what sort of idiots have created this monstrosity, and what other similar catch 22's exist in this turkey of an OS. Clearly, after TWO YEARS of attempts, Microsoft has FAILED to fix a serious problem, which will eventually lead to a class action law suit. All it will take is a MASS-DESTRUCTION of computer systems which were not properly backed up, because Microsoft FAILED to fix a YEARS-OLD problem. How long has this problem been around? Since W7 was created? Well, THAT"S TOO LOOOONG!


    Monday, August 08, 2011 1:16 PM
  • "errrrHmmm_shucks" wrote in message news:132bc98e-22d5-4bd9-9476-635055f3191e...

     

    This thread has been going on for TWO YEARS!

    And still no all-around solution.

     

    NONE of the offered fixes work for me.

     

    I have a 1000 MB (ONE GIGABYTE) boot patition, and there is less than 30 MB space left.The space is being eaten by the MICROSOFT page file. Which seems to grow and never shrink again ("pagefile.sys" 970 MB)  and NONE of the offered solutions even mention the page file.

    But why should the size of the boot partition even affect backing up?!#*!?

    By Microsoft's design, to have an effective backup system, one must create a system repair disk,which requires a system image to work effectively:


    "A system repair disc can be used to boot your computer ... restore your computer from a system image."

    But you can't create a system image file because windows uses the boot directory -- which is severely restricted in size -- for some WEIRD back-up aid.

     

    My image file appears to need 176 GB of available space. My backup disk has 400 GB of available space. My backup FAILS because there isn't enough space:

    "There is not enough disk space to create the volume shadow copy on the storage location. Make sure that for all volumes to be backup up, the minimum required disk space for shadow copy creation is available. This applies to both the backup storage destination and volumes included in the backup. Minimum requirement For volumes less than 500 megabytes, the minimum is 50 megabytes of free space. For volumes more than 500 megabytes, the minimum is 320 megabytes of free space. Recommended: At least 1 gigabyte of free disk space on each volume if volume size is more than 1 gigabyte. (0x80780119)"

    Add all these factors together and one wonders what sort of idiots have created this monstrosity, and what other similar catch 22's exist in this turkey of an OS. Clearly, after TWO YEARS of attempts, Microsoft has FAILED to fix a serious problem, which will eventually lead to a class action law suit. All it will take is a MASS-DESTRUCTION of computer systems which were not properly backed up, because Microsoft FAILED to fix a YEARS-OLD problem. How long has this problem been around? Since W7 was created? Well, THAT"S TOO LOOOONG!


     
     
    SO – what files are being modified/incremented in the boot partition?
    I suspect that either you are using software that doesn’t respect conventions, or that you have a malware infestation.
     

    Noel Paton | Nil Carborundum Illegitemi | CrashFixPC | The Three-toed Sloth
    Monday, August 08, 2011 5:31 PM
  • "errrrHmmm_shucks" wrote in message news:132bc98e-22d5-4bd9-9476-635055f3191e...

     

    This thread has been going on for TWO YEARS!


     
    SO – what files are being modified/incremented in the boot partition?
    I suspect that either you are using software that doesn’t respect conventions, or that you have a malware infestation.
     

    Noel Paton | Nil Carborundum Illegitemi | CrashFixPC | The Three-toed Sloth

    Actually, my point was, that despite the many updates and service packs, Windows 7 STILL has a problem with Backups.

    As to your suggestion, that some ill-behave software is writing to my boot partition, yes, it's Windows! The only software writing to my boot partition is the OS. Not only does it write virtual memory to the tiny boot partition by default, it writes to the boot partition during backup, when it clearly has a different drive configured as backup destination.

    As to not respecting conventions, the biggest culprit on my machine is Microsoft. Micorosoft threw the "Windows Look-and-feel" out the window in favor of the hipper "ribbon" - looks cool, but is way less intuitive. They are the ones, who configured every drive on the machine to contain a page file that GROWS until the drive is full. They provided a system normal users are unable to back up, because the fix requires "ADVANCED" system settings.

    What I would expect from a reputable company is a fix of a clear and present problem (been a problem for longer than this 2.5 year thread!). Fix the backup program to bypass writing to the boot partition, and fix the OS configuration to avoid placing pagefile.sys into the boot partition or at least LIMIT the page file to, say, 60% of available space.


     

    Wednesday, August 10, 2011 5:40 PM
  • "errrrHmmm_shucks" wrote in message news:0175a600-6d98-42c9-b748-cddc066981c0...
    "errrrHmmm_shucks" wrote in message news:132bc98e-22d5-4bd9-9476-635055f3191e...

     

    This thread has been going on for TWO YEARS!

     
     
    SO – what files are being modified/incremented in the boot partition?
    I suspect that either you are using software that doesn’t respect conventions, or that you have a malware infestation.
     

    Noel Paton | Nil Carborundum Illegitemi | CrashFixPC | The Three-toed Sloth

    Actually, my point was, that despite the many updates and service packs, Windows 7 STILL has a problem with Backups.

    As to your suggestion, that some ill-behave software is writing to my boot partition, yes, it's Windows! The only software writing to my boot partition is the OS. Not only does it write virtual memory to the tiny boot partition by default, it writes to the boot partition during backup, when it clearly has a different drive configured as backup destination.

    As to not respecting conventions, the biggest culprit on my machine is Microsoft. Micorosoft threw the "Windows Look-and-feel" out the window in favor of the hipper "ribbon" - looks cool, but is way less intuitive. They are the ones, who configured every drive on the machine to contain a page file that GROWS until the drive is full. They provided a system normal users are unable to back up, because the fix requires "ADVANCED" system settings.

    What I would expect from a reputable company is a fix of a clear and present problem (been a problem for longer than this 2.5 year thread!). Fix the backup program to bypass writing to the boot partition, and fix the OS configuration to avoid placing pagefile.sys into the boot partition or at least LIMIT the page file to, say, 60% of available space.


     

    Please start a NEW thread of your own, detailing your EXACT problems – you will then get a proper response from an MS techie.

    Noel Paton | Nil Carborundum Illegitemi | CrashFixPC | The Three-toed Sloth
    Thursday, August 11, 2011 7:48 AM
  • I made a thread with this error back in march when I had this problem, then 2 months later after no help I solved it myself.

    I looked through these threads saying "check system reserved" and "run sfc /scannow" and others but they all didn't apply to me. My system reserved was fine, sfc returned no errors, etc.

    I'm using Win7 Ultimate and I had all language packs installed. And apparently having too many language packs installed caused it for me, so uninstalling them made my backups work again. This of course doesn't apply to anyone without ultimate as you need ultimate to install the language packs.

    Just wanted to post this here so anyone else that was in my situation with too many language packs would know how to fix it.

    Thursday, August 11, 2011 2:53 PM
  • There is an explanation of what's going on. I lost the thread, but it's called Journal. My best interpretation of what is going on is it's indexing all the files / types you have set up by default. The service runs as "delayed", which kinda explains in my case why leaving the machine alone for awhile and returning shows the free size back to a point where you can do a backup 70 MB free for a 100 MB partition in my case. Davi Nigro's procedure dated Monday, July 05, 2010 8:54 PM procedure above did work. But, as I said, not right away because of the delay of the service starting.

    It should work IF there are no other problems. I ran a test increasing the System partition to a gig, and the free space was still consumed to where a backup wouldn't run until I ran Davi Nigro's procedure and left the computer alone for awhile.

    Yeah Microsoft can really torque you off. I suspect in many cases people move around the company or leave frequently that few if anyone really knows how the operating system works. Case in point - forums. These are places where people share "fixes" 'casue" the manufacturer is clueless. I only use forums as a last resort.

    Wednesday, August 17, 2011 8:31 PM
  • Quote: Please start a NEW thread of your own, detailing your EXACT problems – you will then get a proper response from an MS techie.

    First of all, I don't need a response from an MS techie. The world needs a fix from the W7 Ultimate designers, to prevent the problems described in this thread. If I were to post a thread about my "exact" problem, it would be titled:

    Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit backup failed

    same as THIS thread.

    My problem was:

    W7 failed to write a system image. Reason: boot partition full. Except it did't report "boot partition full", instead it reported, "not enough space in the backup drive". Then it aborted the entire backup. Until I figured out that W7 was using the boot partition as a scratch drive, I could only backup files, without ever creating a system image.

    Marking this thread as "solved" was premature. The basic problem (W7 Ultimate 64-bit backup fails) is still around in various ways, all to do with the boot partition filling up!



    Thursday, August 18, 2011 3:39 PM
  • Format the hard disk (normal not quick) when you have finish formatting about ¾ of the hard disk cancel the format.  Format it again (normal) this time let it finish and you should be able to backup.

    Saturday, August 20, 2011 10:21 AM
  • Thank you, this indeed did finally after 11 hours, cause the backup to at least start! 
    Sunday, September 18, 2011 7:35 PM
  • !!! HERE IS THE SOLUTION !!!

    Follow the steps bellow and you'll be able to perform the System Image Backup ( Win 7 / Win 2008 R2 )


    The cause:

    This issue probably occur after you perform a RESTORE of a System Image Backup ( I really don't know if there are another causes for this issue ). I just know that every time you perform a Restore of a System Image, some data will be created inside the System Reserved volume . This data, WONT be deleted after the restore. This is sad, but true ...you have to disable this data ONCE, and after all, your restores will not have this data anymore.

    The Solution:

    You have to "clean" the system reserved data ... I don't know the reason, but there is a content related to USN Journal ( don't ask me for the meaning of this content ).

    So, follow the steps bellow to clean this content, and be able to perform the image backup.

    1- Start>Run>diskmgmt.msc

    2- Right click on the System Reserved volume ( or partition ) and give it a letter ( I've used the letter Z )

    3- Start>Run>cmd

    4- Fsutil usn queryjournal Z:

    5- fsutil usn deletejournal /N /D Z:

    6- Create the System Image Backup again

    7- Repeat the steps 1 and 2 and REMOVE the letter from the System Reserved.

    You will see, that the command above, will give you 30~40Mb of space inside the System Reserved partition, what make possible the creation of the System Image Backup. And you wont need to set the C: Partition as active, or transfer the boot content to it.

    I've made a second restore to see if a USN Journal content were created in the system reserved partition and it wasn't. :)

    Regards

    Davi Nigro


    MCP / MCSA / MCSA+M.

    Indeed this worked fine at once!

    Thank you Sir!

    Wednesday, September 28, 2011 3:45 AM
  • I get the same error with the following configuration:

     

     

    It is very puzzling.


    Hong
    Friday, September 30, 2011 3:37 AM
  • I get the same thing as Hong (above) I have 10 times the space needed for backing up, yet after clicking next, the program runs a a few seconds, then says not enough space.  The biggest bunch of BS I have seen in 30+ years of building computers.
    Saturday, October 01, 2011 6:00 AM
  • Davi Nigro, (see his answer below) has the actual answer and it worked.
    Saturday, October 01, 2011 8:23 PM
  • Please see the item in Davi Nigros answer! It is correct and has worked for seveal of us already.  Further, it is easy to do by step.  I know how agrevatting Microsofts lack of care is, but getting the fix is more important in the end.  Mr. Nigro is most helpful here for this issue.  I also had 4 empty drives.  the garbage message for the OS is not really about space, it is about placement of that space as seen by the OS but, it never says that.
    Saturday, October 01, 2011 8:36 PM
  • I followed Davi's instructions to the letter and got the same error. 

    Event Viewer shows the following:

    The backup operation that started at '‎2011‎-‎10‎-‎01T22:29:30.678000000Z' has failed because the Volume Shadow Copy Service operation to create a shadow copy of the volumes being backed up failed with following error code '2155348249'. Please review the event details for a solution, and then rerun the backup operation once the issue is resolved.

    Event Details:

    - System 
    
      - Provider 
    
       [ Name]  Microsoft-Windows-Backup 
       [ Guid]  {1DB28F2E-8F80-4027-8C5A-A11F7F10F62D} 
     
       EventID 521 
     
       Version 0 
     
       Level 2 
     
       Task 0 
     
       Opcode 0 
     
       Keywords 0x8000000000000000 
     
      - TimeCreated 
    
       [ SystemTime]  2011-10-01T22:29:53.553926700Z 
     
       EventRecordID 136229 
     
       Correlation 
     
      - Execution 
    
       [ ProcessID]  3840 
       [ ThreadID]  5208 
     
       Channel Application 
     
       Computer PHENOMVII.win7.local 
     
      - Security 
    
       [ UserID]  S-1-5-18 
     
    
    - EventData 
    
      BackupTime 2011-10-01T22:29:30.678000000Z 
      ErrorCode 2155348249 
      ErrorMessage %%2155348249 
    



    Hong
    • Proposed as answer by JamesVonU Sunday, October 02, 2011 8:33 PM
    Saturday, October 01, 2011 10:36 PM
  • Okay,

    Here is what I did to get the backup image to run.  Since it appears that the problems lies with the system reserved partition and with USN journaling (whatever that is), I decided to get rid of the system partition.   You will need to put the bootable system files on to the C: drive (or where Windows 7 resides) by using bcdboot.  Here is a copy of the directioins I found on the internet.  This is the first time that I have come across this problem.  I have run the Win 7 image backup program  on numberous Win7 Home Premium and a couple of Ultimate machines.  The problem I think occurs with Win 7 Ultimate installations (with all the language packs installed) with the 100MB system reserved partition.  Anyways, removal of the system reserved worked for me.

    1) Open a command prompt with administrator privileges (right click => run as administrator)
     
    Type:
     
    bcdboot c:\windows /s c:
     
    You should get a message similar to:
     
    Boot files successfully created.
     
    2) Open the Disk Management GUI (you could use diskpart for scripts), locate the  C:\ partition right-click and select “Mark Partition as Active”, select yes to the “do you want to continue message”
     
    3) Reboot to confirm that everything is ok.
     
    4) In Disk Management you can now delete the 100Mb System Reserved partition by right clicking on it and selecting “Delete volume”
    Sunday, October 02, 2011 8:45 PM
  • Thanks a lot for the tips.

    Is there downside of getting rid of System Reserved. This is my primary computer with lots of installed programs, so I cannot take too much risk.  I have just used Macrium's Reflect to achieve what I need for now, but I am still interested in getting Windows' imaging tool work.

    BTW, I have tried another target hard drive of a different brand.  I also tried imaging the SSD that was cloned from the original HD.  Both failed in the same way.


    Hong
    Sunday, October 02, 2011 9:27 PM
  • As I know it, you are not "getting rid of".  You are taking out a recurring event that overfills and resetting it somehow.  Mr. Nigros item is accurate.  I have over 80 programs of various types and have now backed up very well ( although it takes all night :)  ) with not a problem one.  The System reserved area just quit growing is all.  I think you should be safe if you do it line by line per the instructions.
    Tuesday, October 04, 2011 12:03 AM
  • Hello, I would say that doing away w/ the system reserve is in fact brain surgery to fix a streched tendon.  With that gone no system restore is likely to be saved by win 7.  I am told by the IT guys @ work (290,000 machines they deal with, not a missprint!) that should be left alone by almost any user.
    Tuesday, October 04, 2011 12:08 AM
  • reply 2:  please do note that Mr Nigro's fix is about near the top of this now long post.  PLEASE use that fix, do not destroy your sys reserve as it is not necessary to do so.  Best luck.  I would say MS is, as usual, very remiss in addressing items that could be fixed easily by them that cause much outrage and pain to customers.
    Tuesday, October 04, 2011 12:11 AM
  • As I wrote before, I followed Mr. Nigro's instructions to the letter, but the problem remains.

    I am content with Macrium's Reflect for backup now.


    Hong
    Tuesday, October 04, 2011 12:17 AM
  • I also have just succesfully followed Mr Nigro's instructions following the 0x80780119 not enough space error. I now have a Windows 7 image backup again.

    It might help others if I explain further - Prior to this I had tried to make an image backup using Windows 7 backup and it had failed with a different set of errors: 'The read operation from the VolumeShadowCopy on the source failed" 0x80780029, and: 'The file or directory is corrupted and unreadable' 0x80070570.

    However I ignored this dire message and made an image backup using Paragon Backup & Recovery™ 2011 (Advanced) Free which I then used to recover my C: drive. I was surprised that the Paragon utility worked but I'm guessing it didn't need to write anything in the system reserved area. I would suggest to anyone getting the file corrupted VolumeShadowCopy errors to try Paragon (I've recently had bad experience with Macrium Reflect failing to restore the MBR but my setup now has the OS on an SSD which might confuse things - me included).

     After all that Mr Nigro's advice is good and I feel happier that I have two different ways to backup my OS again. I might even try to restore from the Win7 image to see if it works....maybe!

    Finally I would add to the pleas to MS to do some proper fix for this - if the system reserved area needs to be bigger then find us a way to do that in the first place, after all most people wouldn't notice losing another, say, 100MB?


    PS. I praised Paragon too early - my installation of MS Office is corrupt and won't run - or uninstall..... everything else seems to work but I will have to go back to an earlier image I suppose.

     

     

    Much later...My earlier image turned out to be corrupt too (MBR problem, not surprised) so I went for a new clean install (data files saved elswhere of course) and, after looking for solutions on the net, decided to follow the advice given here http://www.mydigitallife.info/hack-to-remove-100-mb-system-reserved-partition-when-installing-windows-7/comment-page-1/#comments.

    As it says the idea is to do away with the 100MB partition I followed method three which seemed clearest. All I can say is that so far it works. System restore and imaging are both working flawlessly and the system as a whole feels more stable. A lot of work but worth it!

    • Edited by silver1 Sunday, October 16, 2011 7:36 PM
    Saturday, October 15, 2011 10:51 PM
  • !!! HERE IS THE SOLUTION !!!

    Follow the steps bellow and you'll be able to perform the System Image Backup ( Win 7 / Win 2008 R2 )


    The cause:

    This issue probably occur after you perform a RESTORE of a System Image Backup ( I really don't know if there are another causes for this issue ). I just know that every time you perform a Restore of a System Image, some data will be created inside the System Reserved volume . This data, WONT be deleted after the restore. This is sad, but true ...you have to disable this data ONCE, and after all, your restores will not have this data anymore.

    The Solution:

    You have to "clean" the system reserved data ... I don't know the reason, but there is a content related to USN Journal ( don't ask me for the meaning of this content ).

    So, follow the steps bellow to clean this content, and be able to perform the image backup.

    1- Start>Run>diskmgmt.msc

    2- Right click on the System Reserved volume ( or partition ) and give it a letter ( I've used the letter Z )

    3- Start>Run>cmd

    4- Fsutil usn queryjournal Z:

    5- fsutil usn deletejournal /N /D Z:

    6- Create the System Image Backup again

    7- Repeat the steps 1 and 2 and REMOVE the letter from the System Reserved.

    You will see, that the command above, will give you 30~40Mb of space inside the System Reserved partition, what make possible the creation of the System Image Backup. And you wont need to set the C: Partition as active, or transfer the boot content to it.

    I've made a second restore to see if a USN Journal content were created in the system reserved partition and it wasn't. :)

    Regards

    Davi Nigro


    MCP / MCSA / MCSA+M.

    THANKS!!!!!   Worked great.
    • Proposed as answer by Sri Todi Monday, June 04, 2012 2:51 PM
    Friday, November 04, 2011 7:09 PM
  • This problem is due to a hidden system partition that your windows is trying to back up alongside, as it is part of the boot sequence (I'm speculating here, trying to find a reason)
    Anyway, here is the solution
    You can relieve this volume by going to cmd (type cmd in the search box in the start menu)
    enter the following line in the cmd.exe window:
    bcdboot c:\windows /s c:
    this way windows won't force you to back it up
    You should be good to go
    Saturday, December 17, 2011 3:50 AM
  • !!! HERE IS THE SOLUTION !!!

    Follow the steps bellow and you'll be able to perform the System Image Backup ( Win 7 / Win 2008 R2 )


    The cause:

    This issue probably occur after you perform a RESTORE of a System Image Backup ( I really don't know if there are another causes for this issue ). I just know that every time you perform a Restore of a System Image, some data will be created inside the System Reserved volume . This data, WONT be deleted after the restore. This is sad, but true ...you have to disable this data ONCE, and after all, your restores will not have this data anymore.

    The Solution:

    You have to "clean" the system reserved data ... I don't know the reason, but there is a content related to USN Journal ( don't ask me for the meaning of this content ).

    So, follow the steps bellow to clean this content, and be able to perform the image backup.

    1- Start>Run>diskmgmt.msc

    2- Right click on the System Reserved volume ( or partition ) and give it a letter ( I've used the letter Z )

    3- Start>Run>cmd

    4- Fsutil usn queryjournal Z:

    5- fsutil usn deletejournal /N /D Z:

    6- Create the System Image Backup again

    7- Repeat the steps 1 and 2 and REMOVE the letter from the System Reserved.

    You will see, that the command above, will give you 30~40Mb of space inside the System Reserved partition, what make possible the creation of the System Image Backup. And you wont need to set the C: Partition as active, or transfer the boot content to it.

    I've made a second restore to see if a USN Journal content were created in the system reserved partition and it wasn't. :)

    Regards

    Davi Nigro


    MCP / MCSA / MCSA+M.

    Thank you Mr. Nigro! As old as this thread is, the information contained within, and specifically your fix, got my Win7 backup working again.

    For non-techy types, I might mention that for purposes of implementing this fix, when running "CMD" (AKA the command prompt), users should remember to do so with administrative control. This is done by clicking on START, then ALL PROGRAMS, then ACCESSORIES, right click on COMMAND PROMPT, and finally RUN AS ADMINISTRATOR. I think Microsoft made this necessary with the release of Windows VISTA, but could be mistaken about that. Back in the day when DOS roamed the earth, and Windows Version 1 was still wet on the page, we didn't have to fuss with such trivialities (he said tongue-in-cheek).

    Again, thanks for the fix!

    Dave M.

    Tuesday, January 31, 2012 3:37 AM
  • !!! HERE IS THE SOLUTION !!!

    Follow the steps bellow and you'll be able to perform the System Image Backup ( Win 7 / Win 2008 R2 )


    The cause:

    This issue probably occur after you perform a RESTORE of a System Image Backup ( I really don't know if there are another causes for this issue ). I just know that every time you perform a Restore of a System Image, some data will be created inside the System Reserved volume . This data, WONT be deleted after the restore. This is sad, but true ...you have to disable this data ONCE, and after all, your restores will not have this data anymore.

    The Solution:

    You have to "clean" the system reserved data ... I don't know the reason, but there is a content related to USN Journal ( don't ask me for the meaning of this content ).

    So, follow the steps bellow to clean this content, and be able to perform the image backup.

    1- Start>Run>diskmgmt.msc

    2- Right click on the System Reserved volume ( or partition ) and give it a letter ( I've used the letter Z )

    3- Start>Run>cmd

    4- Fsutil usn queryjournal Z:

    5- fsutil usn deletejournal /N /D Z:

    6- Create the System Image Backup again

    7- Repeat the steps 1 and 2 and REMOVE the letter from the System Reserved.

    You will see, that the command above, will give you 30~40Mb of space inside the System Reserved partition, what make possible the creation of the System Image Backup. And you wont need to set the C: Partition as active, or transfer the boot content to it.

    I've made a second restore to see if a USN Journal content were created in the system reserved partition and it wasn't. :)

    Regards

    Davi Nigro


    MCP / MCSA / MCSA+M.

    Thank you kindly sir :)
    Been scouring the net for hours.  So many other sites (and a few people here apparently) are advising the use of 3rd party tools to remove the 100MB system partition... they're going to regret that later.

    Now I'm off to work on my next problem... getting this 128GB system image(60GB free space) to clone over to my new 120GB SSD... ahhh the fun continues, lol.  Easier to do a fresh install.... sure.... but where's the learning in that, heh. Cheers and Thanks a heap!
    ;p
    Thursday, February 09, 2012 8:15 AM
  • Windows has a major problem and that is it's increasingly for the unintelligent who don't want to be bothered knowing about computers other than how much profithey can make by using one.

    Renee


    "MODERN PROGRAMMING is deficient in elementary ways BECAUSE of problems INTRODUCED by MODERN PROGRAMMING." Me

    Wednesday, February 15, 2012 12:38 PM
  • Exactly.....

    Renee


    "MODERN PROGRAMMING is deficient in elementary ways BECAUSE of problems INTRODUCED by MODERN PROGRAMMING." Me

    Wednesday, February 15, 2012 12:39 PM
  • This worked for me thanks. My usage went from 64MB to 12MB, so my backup proceeded
    Monday, June 25, 2012 4:56 PM
  • In win 7 I solved the problem by clearing my RECOVERY partition: System Properties>System Protection>Configure>Delete.

    The down side is you loose all you previous restore points so I reduced "Max Usage" to leave some room in RECOVERY and maybe Backup won't hit the wall again. We'll see...

    ps After the delete I "Create..." a new restore point.

    Wednesday, July 11, 2012 3:51 PM
  • I've tried Davi Nigro's fix about 8-12 times now and it simply will not work for me. I still have 62mb used space in the 100mb drive. I'm glad many of you have found relief. I'm using Win 7 Home Premium, maybe it has a limitation...

    I'll try the Partition Wizard Boot CD and see if it works...

      (Later) the Minitool Partition wizard tells me that I am only using 24mb of the 100mb - YET(!) - when I run the Windows Create Image - it tells me that 62mb is used

    AAAHHHH!!!!

    (Much Later) the Nigro fix did not work, nor was I able to use Partition Magic to increase the size of the System drive.

    Final Solution: I made my C Drive bootable, deleted the System Drive, Created a new larger System Drive (240mb) making it Active & bootable - Voila - I could finally Create another Image!
    I hope others find this thread - it ain't easy to find a midst the many others ...

    • Edited by Bozoboy Friday, July 20, 2012 3:22 PM
    Friday, July 20, 2012 12:14 AM
  • !!! HERE IS THE SOLUTION !!!

    Follow the steps bellow and you'll be able to perform the System Image Backup ( Win 7 / Win 2008 R2 )


    The cause:

    This issue probably occur after you perform a RESTORE of a System Image Backup ( I really don't know if there are another causes for this issue ). I just know that every time you perform a Restore of a System Image, some data will be created inside the System Reserved volume . This data, WONT be deleted after the restore. This is sad, but true ...you have to disable this data ONCE, and after all, your restores will not have this data anymore.

    The Solution:

    You have to "clean" the system reserved data ... I don't know the reason, but there is a content related to USN Journal ( don't ask me for the meaning of this content ).

    So, follow the steps bellow to clean this content, and be able to perform the image backup.

    1- Start>Run>diskmgmt.msc

    2- Right click on the System Reserved volume ( or partition ) and give it a letter ( I've used the letter Z )

    3- Start>Run>cmd

    4- Fsutil usn queryjournal Z:

    5- fsutil usn deletejournal /N /D Z:

    6- Create the System Image Backup again

    7- Repeat the steps 1 and 2 and REMOVE the letter from the System Reserved.

    You will see, that the command above, will give you 30~40Mb of space inside the System Reserved partition, what make possible the creation of the System Image Backup. And you wont need to set the C: Partition as active, or transfer the boot content to it.

    I've made a second restore to see if a USN Journal content were created in the system reserved partition and it wasn't. :)

    Regards

    Davi Nigro


    MCP / MCSA / MCSA+M.

    FINALLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I Googled "Aggravation" to learn how to say it in ten different languages!!! I was SO FED UP... I had a 60GB SSD for my OS disk and four 1TB drives attached to it. Picked up a 240GB SSD and wanted to 'clone' is using MS tools as my Clonezilla USB went missing... WOW!!!! NEVER thought it'd be THIS much of a hassle... Thanks for the right answer!!!
    • Proposed as answer by enewmen Sunday, August 12, 2012 2:52 PM
    Sunday, August 12, 2012 5:11 AM
  • This FINALLY worked.

    Even if the deletejournal can't get the System Reserved down to over 50mb free. (this happend to me)

    Follow Woug Debster's advice:

    clear RECOVERY partition: System Properties>System Protection>Configure>Delete.

    THEN flollow Davi Nigro (again).

    fsutil usn queryjournal Z:
    fsutil usn deletejournal /N /D Z:

    Remove the Z:, then backup the C: image.

    THEN DONE!!

    I hope all this will be done automatically with Windows 8 and future windows.

    Sunday, August 12, 2012 2:59 PM
  • Betty the Backup on Windows works fine.

    Renee


    "MODERN PROGRAMMING is deficient in elementary ways BECAUSE of problems INTRODUCED by MODERN PROGRAMMING." Me

    Sunday, August 12, 2012 3:05 PM
  • "The basic problem (W7 Ultimate 64-bit backup fails) is still around in various ways, all to do with the boot partition filling up!"

    I've never had ANY problem with 64 bit Windows Backup or restore.

    Renee


    "MODERN PROGRAMMING is deficient in elementary ways BECAUSE of problems INTRODUCED by MODERN PROGRAMMING." Me

    Sunday, August 12, 2012 3:35 PM
  • Thank you Betty your suggestions were great I have now backed up my computer I don't understand all the other suggestions they were not necessary
    Thursday, December 20, 2012 5:32 PM
  • none of these answers worked, just expand the System Reserved partition with 1gb, and it will work great, backup system image works fine after that
    Monday, April 29, 2013 10:51 AM
  • After hours of search, Davi's solution worked for me.  Thank you.
    Tuesday, October 22, 2013 5:17 AM
  • This works! I had the same issue and did this by the numbers and it worked perfectly.  

    Hats off to Davi.

    Saturday, November 23, 2013 12:25 AM
  • The backup is stopped at this point:

    And after a few minutes the following error appears:

    I did the whole procedure, I tried with antivirus uninstalled, restart the shadow copy service and backup windows also not work. Can Help me?

    Thursday, April 03, 2014 1:41 PM
  • This does NOT work.  I followed the directions exactly, and the free space on this stupid 100 MB partition went from 5 to 6.5 MB.  I have 4 computers - all Gateway DX4870 i7's with 16 Gb memory and 2 TB primary drives.  3 of them have this stupid partition and will not image back up OR be backed up by Windows Home Server.  The 4th does NOT have this partition, and will both image properly and back up to the Windows Home Server.  This programming design is stupid beyond description.  As I write this, it's nearly May 2014; this thread started in 2009.  For this to go on this long, with this class of problem - the inability to back up using the Operating System's own image backup tool - is criminal.  And to suggest that people, many of whom do not have technical backgrounds, should mess with the structure of disk partitions, jeopardizing their installed software and data and the ability to reboot their machines successfully, without first being able to back up their machines so that they can get back to where they were before they performed those actions, is so Rube Goldberg, so unprofessional, so amateur, poor design, poor thinking incompetent as to defy belief.  Microsoft has a critical flaw in one of the most important functions of a computer, that has persisted for 5 years, with no automated solution.  There is NO excuse adequate to compensate for this nonfeasance.  NONE!
    Sunday, April 27, 2014 4:46 PM
  • Are you kidding?  Format the disk?  And do what with all the OS, updates, service packs, installed applications, settings and tuning, data, e-mail configuration, and data structures?  Rebuild them from scratch over a period of days to housekeep an OS that isn't potty trained?  After 5 years of persistent design negligence?

    How about this: sell your computer, buy a Chromebook, save your data for free in the cloud, and tell everyone that Microsoft tech support was unable to correct a critical operating system flaw in its flagship operating system for 5 years!

    Sunday, April 27, 2014 4:54 PM