Standard Vs Enterprise !<p>Hello.<br/><br/>Previously with TMG beta one and two, there was no standard and enterprise versions of TMG, why with TMG beta three this change ?</p> <p>For example, in Tarek's article (<a href="http://www.elmajdal.net/ISAServer/Installing_Forefront_Threat_Management_Gateway_Beta_2.aspx">http://www.elmajdal.net/ISAServer/Installing_Forefront_Threat_Management_Gateway_Beta_2.aspx</a>)  &quot;<em><span class=style164><span style="color:#ff0000">As you may have noticed, the concept of <strong>Standard Edition</strong> or <strong>Enterprise Edition</strong> is no more available with Forefront TMG. </span></span>There are new terms that we will have to get used to them , such as Standalone Server, Array Manager, Standalone Array, Enterprise Management Server (EMS). You might find it misleading at the current moment. Don't feel that, later on we will get used to these terms, and they will be covered in future articles. To give you a brief illustration, at the moment I'll be installing a <strong>Standalone</strong> Forefront TMG server.</em> &quot;<br/><br/>and i've seen this also on different forums and blogs as well, but now I feel myself lost why this was not illustrated before ! that there will be a standard and enterprise editions again !</p> <p>and where can we find any difference between the two ?</p>© 2009 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.Tue, 24 Nov 2009 13:32:10 Zb1c319db-9f1f-41ff-ab52-d829f044e72bhttp://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/FTMGNext/thread/b1c319db-9f1f-41ff-ab52-d829f044e72b#b1c319db-9f1f-41ff-ab52-d829f044e72bhttp://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/FTMGNext/thread/b1c319db-9f1f-41ff-ab52-d829f044e72b#b1c319db-9f1f-41ff-ab52-d829f044e72bNathalie Leshttp://social.technet.microsoft.com/Profile/en-US/?user=Nathalie%20LesStandard Vs Enterprise !<p>Hello.<br/><br/>Previously with TMG beta one and two, there was no standard and enterprise versions of TMG, why with TMG beta three this change ?</p> <p>For example, in Tarek's article (<a href="http://www.elmajdal.net/ISAServer/Installing_Forefront_Threat_Management_Gateway_Beta_2.aspx">http://www.elmajdal.net/ISAServer/Installing_Forefront_Threat_Management_Gateway_Beta_2.aspx</a>)  &quot;<em><span class=style164><span style="color:#ff0000">As you may have noticed, the concept of <strong>Standard Edition</strong> or <strong>Enterprise Edition</strong> is no more available with Forefront TMG. </span></span>There are new terms that we will have to get used to them , such as Standalone Server, Array Manager, Standalone Array, Enterprise Management Server (EMS). You might find it misleading at the current moment. Don't feel that, later on we will get used to these terms, and they will be covered in future articles. To give you a brief illustration, at the moment I'll be installing a <strong>Standalone</strong> Forefront TMG server.</em> &quot;<br/><br/>and i've seen this also on different forums and blogs as well, but now I feel myself lost why this was not illustrated before ! that there will be a standard and enterprise editions again !</p> <p>and where can we find any difference between the two ?</p>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 07:38:53 Z2009-06-27T07:38:53Zhttp://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/FTMGNext/thread/b1c319db-9f1f-41ff-ab52-d829f044e72b#7716ea5c-56fb-4763-9da5-5f0010baf803http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/FTMGNext/thread/b1c319db-9f1f-41ff-ab52-d829f044e72b#7716ea5c-56fb-4763-9da5-5f0010baf803Marc.Grotehttp://social.technet.microsoft.com/Profile/en-US/?user=Marc.GroteStandard Vs Enterprise !Hi,<br/><br/>Beta 3 has Standard and Enterprise capabilities as ISA Server 2006.<br/><br/>The difference is:<br/><a href="http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/FTMGNext/thread/af22bb57-6465-4535-bd46-70ff7b64b378">http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/FTMGNext/thread/af22bb57-6465-4535-bd46-70ff7b64b378</a><br/><a href="http://blogs.technet.com/isablog/archive/2009/06/09/forefront-tmg-beta-3-is-released.aspx">http://blogs.technet.com/isablog/archive/2009/06/09/forefront-tmg-beta-3-is-released.aspx</a><br/><a href="http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd441003.aspx">http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd441003.aspx</a><br/><br/>regards Marc<br/>www.nt-faq.de<br/><a href="http://www.it-training-grote.de/">www.it-training-grote.de</a>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 09:14:58 Z2009-06-27T09:14:58Zhttp://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/FTMGNext/thread/b1c319db-9f1f-41ff-ab52-d829f044e72b#609265a9-c82e-4b61-9659-837158cef9d4http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/FTMGNext/thread/b1c319db-9f1f-41ff-ab52-d829f044e72b#609265a9-c82e-4b61-9659-837158cef9d4Nathalie Leshttp://social.technet.microsoft.com/Profile/en-US/?user=Nathalie%20LesStandard Vs Enterprise !<p>Hello Marc,<br/><br/>As you can see, in the above links, non talks about stand bs enterprise edition, or why this sudden change in plans.</p> <p>non of the articls previously or blogs mentioned anything about this. whereas for example, URL filtering, was introduced in beta 1, and then removed from Beta 2 and it was clearly mentioned that its going to be reintroduced in Beta 3.</p> <p> </p>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 14:12:57 Z2009-06-27T14:12:57Zhttp://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/FTMGNext/thread/b1c319db-9f1f-41ff-ab52-d829f044e72b#14701697-80f8-4594-9e5b-03e3e82cba05http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/FTMGNext/thread/b1c319db-9f1f-41ff-ab52-d829f044e72b#14701697-80f8-4594-9e5b-03e3e82cba05Marc.Grotehttp://social.technet.microsoft.com/Profile/en-US/?user=Marc.GroteStandard Vs Enterprise !Hello Nathalie,<br/><br/>OK, this is correct, I thaught you asked for the whole new different names in TMG. An overview about the difference between the two versions is IMHO not available yet.<br/><br/>regards Marc<br/>www.nt-faq.de<br/><a href="http://www.it-training-grote.de">www.it-training-grote.de</a>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 14:44:32 Z2009-06-27T14:44:32Zhttp://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/FTMGNext/thread/b1c319db-9f1f-41ff-ab52-d829f044e72b#a5b132b4-4947-490c-99b0-4cd225a903a1http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/FTMGNext/thread/b1c319db-9f1f-41ff-ab52-d829f044e72b#a5b132b4-4947-490c-99b0-4cd225a903a1Nathalie Leshttp://social.technet.microsoft.com/Profile/en-US/?user=Nathalie%20LesStandard Vs Enterprise !so TMG beta 3 is released, and no one have an official difference between standard and enterprise ?<br/><br/>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 20:17:28 Z2009-06-28T20:17:28Zhttp://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/FTMGNext/thread/b1c319db-9f1f-41ff-ab52-d829f044e72b#e4b5410b-2603-483f-b608-fdfaebbe4ba4http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/FTMGNext/thread/b1c319db-9f1f-41ff-ab52-d829f044e72b#e4b5410b-2603-483f-b608-fdfaebbe4ba4りおねるhttp://social.technet.microsoft.com/Profile/en-US/?user=%u308a%u304a%u306d%u308bStandard Vs Enterprise !Hello,<br/><br/>You can find the difference between standard and enterprise edition here :<br/><a href="http://www.microsoft.com/forefront/edgesecurity/isaserver/en/us/editions.aspx">http://www.microsoft.com/forefront/edgesecurity/isaserver/en/us/editions.aspx</a>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 14:46:57 Z2009-06-29T14:47:09Zhttp://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/FTMGNext/thread/b1c319db-9f1f-41ff-ab52-d829f044e72b#bbf67ece-f3e3-4dbd-8ba4-d304d68474e2http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/FTMGNext/thread/b1c319db-9f1f-41ff-ab52-d829f044e72b#bbf67ece-f3e3-4dbd-8ba4-d304d68474e2Bala Natarajan MSFThttp://social.technet.microsoft.com/Profile/en-US/?user=Bala%20Natarajan%20MSFTStandard Vs Enterprise !A Doc explaining difference between SE and EE is in the works and will be released to the ISA team blog site.<br/><br/>SE was added to beta 3 based on feedback from customers .<br/><br/>SE has a local storage for configuration. SE cannot have more than 1 server in the array ( either local or in EMS)<br/><br/>SE can join to an EMS , so that the single member array configuration can be managed from EMS.<br/><br/>SE can be upgraded to EE with a valid EE PID.<br/><br/>If you have any specific questions , please let me know i will provide answers.<br/><br/><hr class="sig">Bala Natarajan [MSFT]| Sr. Support Escalation Engineer | CSS Security -TMG Beta support team | Email: bala.natarajan@microsoft.com | Office 425.704.4626 Bing it on bing.com Mon, 29 Jun 2009 18:32:08 Z2009-06-29T18:32:08Zhttp://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/FTMGNext/thread/b1c319db-9f1f-41ff-ab52-d829f044e72b#2ea5b7e2-e7a9-4077-ab54-12dabe7a96eahttp://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/FTMGNext/thread/b1c319db-9f1f-41ff-ab52-d829f044e72b#2ea5b7e2-e7a9-4077-ab54-12dabe7a96eaNathalie Leshttp://social.technet.microsoft.com/Profile/en-US/?user=Nathalie%20LesStandard Vs Enterprise !Hello Bala, I've not seen any webcast that discusses this change, specially on connect website as well, did we miss any survey that discuss this issue ?Mon, 29 Jun 2009 19:55:48 Z2009-06-29T19:55:48Zhttp://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/FTMGNext/thread/b1c319db-9f1f-41ff-ab52-d829f044e72b#a54296d8-bf0c-4526-85cf-e33fbb2c1593http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/FTMGNext/thread/b1c319db-9f1f-41ff-ab52-d829f044e72b#a54296d8-bf0c-4526-85cf-e33fbb2c1593Bala Natarajan MSFThttp://social.technet.microsoft.com/Profile/en-US/?user=Bala%20Natarajan%20MSFTStandard Vs Enterprise !I dont think you missed any . It looks like this item jumped the list of changes for no particular reason.<br/><br/><hr class="sig">Bala Natarajan [MSFT]| Sr. Support Escalation Engineer | CSS Security -TMG Beta support team | Email: bala.natarajan@microsoft.com | Office 425.704.4626 Bing it on bing.com Mon, 29 Jun 2009 21:54:52 Z2009-06-29T21:54:52Zhttp://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/FTMGNext/thread/b1c319db-9f1f-41ff-ab52-d829f044e72b#cf91e7d9-d9d6-4a7e-ad51-2bd199ef5921http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/FTMGNext/thread/b1c319db-9f1f-41ff-ab52-d829f044e72b#cf91e7d9-d9d6-4a7e-ad51-2bd199ef5921Bala Natarajan MSFThttp://social.technet.microsoft.com/Profile/en-US/?user=Bala%20Natarajan%20MSFTStandard Vs Enterprise !Further update to my previous post<br/><br/>--------------<br/>SE can join to an EMS , so that the single member array configuration can be managed from EMS.<br/>-----------<br/><br/><strong>The scenario of adding SE to EMS is not working/supported scenario for Beta 3. It will be added at the time of RC<br/></strong><br/>I got couple of issues reported already with this and so i thought i will post it here and share it with everyone<br/><br/>Thanks<br/><hr class="sig">Bala Natarajan [MSFT]| Sr. Support Escalation Engineer | CSS Security -TMG Beta support team | Email: bala.natarajan@microsoft.com | Office 425.704.4626 Bing it on bing.com Tue, 30 Jun 2009 02:38:34 Z2009-06-30T02:38:34Zhttp://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/FTMGNext/thread/b1c319db-9f1f-41ff-ab52-d829f044e72b#1279c5bb-ef14-4dfa-b976-4850cb61eea4http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/FTMGNext/thread/b1c319db-9f1f-41ff-ab52-d829f044e72b#1279c5bb-ef14-4dfa-b976-4850cb61eea4Bala Natarajan MSFThttp://social.technet.microsoft.com/Profile/en-US/?user=Bala%20Natarajan%20MSFTStandard Vs Enterprise !<a href="http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ee207137.aspx">http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ee207137.aspx</a><hr class="sig">Bala Natarajan [MSFT]| Sr. Support Escalation Engineer | CSS Security -TMG Beta support team | Email: bala.natarajan@microsoft.com | Office 425.704.4626 Bing it on bing.com Fri, 10 Jul 2009 03:33:51 Z2009-07-10T03:33:51Zhttp://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/FTMGNext/thread/b1c319db-9f1f-41ff-ab52-d829f044e72b#60c79955-2dc5-465f-89dd-902a8a3e37d9http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/FTMGNext/thread/b1c319db-9f1f-41ff-ab52-d829f044e72b#60c79955-2dc5-465f-89dd-902a8a3e37d9ElMajdalhttp://social.technet.microsoft.com/Profile/en-US/?user=ElMajdalStandard Vs Enterprise !Hi Bala, Thanks for the heads up.<hr class="sig">Tarek Majdalani | MS Forefront Edge Security MVP | <a title="http://www.elmajdal.net" href="http://www.elmajdal.net">http://www.elmajdal.net</a><br/>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 17:17:15 Z2009-07-11T17:17:15Zhttp://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/FTMGNext/thread/b1c319db-9f1f-41ff-ab52-d829f044e72b#2c522f56-1bf6-4299-8a9b-33e275708932http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/FTMGNext/thread/b1c319db-9f1f-41ff-ab52-d829f044e72b#2c522f56-1bf6-4299-8a9b-33e275708932Vuk Kadijahttp://social.technet.microsoft.com/Profile/en-US/?user=Vuk%20KadijaStandard Vs Enterprise !so basically, nothing new...<br/> I cant believe it, because I expected much more.<br/>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 13:32:10 Z2009-11-24T13:32:10Z