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Backup of WSUS without NTBackup

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  • So, I've searched for this and I keep coming back with how to do this with NTBackup utility, however; our connected WSUS server must be upgraded to Windows 2008 R2, per a customer mandate from Windows 2003 R2 x64.

    Our offline server is already using 2008 R2 and we used the NTBackup Utility and NTRestore to move the connected WSUS DB and updates to the offline one, and it's worked perfectly after getting all the glitches ironed out that are offline WSUS.

    My question is, with 2K8R2 not having NTBackup, what is a good way to achieve what works flawlessly? Windows Server backup doesn't look like it will provide us what we're trying to do, and while we do have Symantec NetBackup, I'm not sure if that would work either, since it stores the backups on the server and the clients connect to the server to get a restore.

    I'm kind of lost as to what to do and proceed because without the ability to go from online to offline, I don't think this is going to work.

    Does anyone have any suggestions how to achieve what I'm looking to do with using Windows 2008 R2 on both online and offline?

    Thursday, August 01, 2013 2:25 PM

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  • What I'm wondering is how to make this happen without having NTBackup now and learning that Symantec Netbackup which we use won't do the job either.

    Yes. That helps tremendously. :)

    The best tool for building differential file exports from a Windows Server 2008 R2 system is ROBOCOPY.


    Lawrence Garvin, M.S., MCITP:EA, MCDBA, MCSA
    SolarWinds Head Geek
    Microsoft MVP - Software Packaging, Deployment & Servicing (2005-2013)
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    • Marked as answer by mrking79 Thursday, August 08, 2013 1:24 PM
    Monday, August 05, 2013 9:08 PM

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  • Using backup/restore on the database is not really the correct methodology to use for dealing with a disconnected server, and does have the potential for causing complications at later date. Furthermore, as  you note, the backup/restore tool in 2008R2 makes this functionally impossible because you can only backup/restore at the volume level.

    Procedures for implementing and managing a disconnected server are discussed in the WSUS Deployment Guide: Configure a Disconnected Network to Receive Updates


    Lawrence Garvin, M.S., MCITP:EA, MCDBA, MCSA
    SolarWinds Head Geek
    Microsoft MVP - Software Packaging, Deployment & Servicing (2005-2013)
    My MVP Profile: http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/Lawrence.Garvin
    http://www.solarwinds.com/gotmicrosoft
    The views expressed on this post are mine and do not necessarily reflect the views of SolarWinds.

    Friday, August 02, 2013 2:55 PM
  • Maybe I used incorrect terminology. Currently our disconnected server works flawlessly after help from this forum and troubleshooting some issues.

    What I currently do is after new updates are approved and downloaded on the external facing connected WSUS, I do an incremental backup on the e:\wsus\wsuscontent folder using NTBackup. I then export metadata. Burn both to DVD and NTRestore on the disconnected server.

    What I'm wondering is how to make this happen without having NTBackup now and learning that Symantec Netbackup which we use won't do the job either.

    Thank you for your reply.

    Friday, August 02, 2013 3:25 PM
  • Hi,

    As we know, Most people use NTBackup to backup WSUS. For other tools, mostly third party tools. Maybe we should post in there forums or just give it a try(Backup you WSUS with NTbackup first)

    Regards,

    Yan Li


    Cataleya Li
    TechNet Community Support

    Monday, August 05, 2013 5:34 AM
  • That's the problem, NTBackup doesn't exist in Windows 2008 so I'm left with wondering how to achieve this simple task within an entire Windows 2008 R2 environment.

    The other problem is that the update has to fit on a DVD. We can;t use USB hard drives or this would this would be a moot point.

    In the current way we're doing it, the exports are under 2GB and fit on a DVD.

    So I know my current process is correct within a 2003 environment, it's the upgrading the online server to 2008 R2 that is going to throw a monkey wrench into this whole thing.

    Monday, August 05, 2013 1:39 PM
  • What I'm wondering is how to make this happen without having NTBackup now and learning that Symantec Netbackup which we use won't do the job either.

    Yes. That helps tremendously. :)

    The best tool for building differential file exports from a Windows Server 2008 R2 system is ROBOCOPY.


    Lawrence Garvin, M.S., MCITP:EA, MCDBA, MCSA
    SolarWinds Head Geek
    Microsoft MVP - Software Packaging, Deployment & Servicing (2005-2013)
    My MVP Profile: http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/Lawrence.Garvin
    http://www.solarwinds.com/gotmicrosoft
    The views expressed on this post are mine and do not necessarily reflect the views of SolarWinds.

    • Marked as answer by mrking79 Thursday, August 08, 2013 1:24 PM
    Monday, August 05, 2013 9:08 PM
  • So can I just use robocopy to copy the files downloaded that update cycle, 7 zip them, export the meta data, burn and reverse it on the disconnected server?
    Monday, August 05, 2013 9:46 PM
  • So can I just use robocopy to copy the files downloaded that update cycle, 7 zip them, export the meta data, burn and reverse it on the disconnected server?
    Yep. :-)

    Lawrence Garvin, M.S., MCITP:EA, MCDBA, MCSA
    SolarWinds Head Geek
    Microsoft MVP - Software Packaging, Deployment & Servicing (2005-2013)
    My MVP Profile: http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/Lawrence.Garvin
    http://www.solarwinds.com/gotmicrosoft
    The views expressed on this post are mine and do not necessarily reflect the views of SolarWinds.

    Wednesday, August 07, 2013 8:13 PM
  • Awesome, thanks for the help.
    Thursday, August 08, 2013 1:24 PM