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volume licensing - do I really need to install a KMS ?

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  • I'm very confused...

    Do I need to install a KMS for Volume licensing - looks complicated (and as I'm ready to deliver the system tomorrow I don't want any complications)

    This is a simple 2 Server setup - 1 Windows 2012 as DC & a Virtual Machine Win 2012 with Exchange ?

    I can't see the need to install additional servers & we buy Desktops / Laptops with Pre-Installed Windows

    I have both MAK and KMS keys

    isn't using a command line "Slmgr /ipk XXXXX XXXXX XXXXX XXXXX XXXXX" the simplest way to go ?

    and less risky since I'm commissioning on site tomorrow

    I'm I right thinking entering the MAK key is the way to go..


    ChrisS


    • Edited by ChrisS - ITR Thursday, November 07, 2013 5:49 PM
    Thursday, November 07, 2013 5:24 PM

Answers

  • "** Could do with a MS Licensing expert chiming in here **" - You have to call Microsoft or contact your licensed Microsoft reseller for that.  This is not a licensing forum, and I highly doubt that Microsoft would set one up for legal reasons.  Trained licensing specialists will look at your particular contract to answer questions in the context of your contract.  Not every company has the same contract as the next company. 

    Personally, I still prefer a KMS.  It is simple to set up for an organization.  It doesn't have any sort of limit on the number of activations like the MAK does.  Don't have to worry about somebody hijacking the MAK key.  Reinstalling a server does not require entering a new key, which decrements the limited number of activations on a MAK.

    But, others like the extra effort.  To each their own.


    .:|:.:|:. tim

    Saturday, November 09, 2013 12:13 AM

All replies

  • No, a KMS is not needed, but in corporate deployments it makes life a lot easier.  But if you like to enter activation keys, MAK is fine.

    If you are buying pre-installed, do you mean OEM?  They come with their own keys, sort of like a MAK.  But I have known organizations that buy with pre-installed, but the provide the volume media so that they don't have to worry about activation keys.  In fact, you should be using the customer's media and keys if you are delivering a system to them.


    .:|:.:|:. tim

    Thursday, November 07, 2013 10:20 PM
  • No, a KMS is not needed, but in corporate deployments it makes life a lot easier.  But if you like to enter activation keys, MAK is fine.

    If you are buying pre-installed, do you mean OEM?  They come with their own keys, sort of like a MAK.  But I have known organizations that buy with pre-installed, but the provide the volume media so that they don't have to worry about activation keys.  In fact, you should be using the customer's media and keys if you are delivering a system to them.


    .:|:.:|:. tim

    Its a Volume License & I downloaded the ISO from the MS email received.

    (At least I think I did! - 99% sure)

    It didn't ask for a key on install.  I installed this 2-3 weeks ago & may have checked to see if activation was necessary.

    Normal practice is Install, Configure, Test, add software necessary i.e. Activate when ready to deliver 

    that's NOW !!!

    Someone told me to use slmgr -upk  - to remove the current default key and

    slmgr -ipk   <license key>  (using the MAK key)

    I'm not sure & don't want to break anything at this stage.. so I thought I'd ask here.

    Thursday, November 07, 2013 11:01 PM
  • Yes, slmgr is the tool used to change the license key.  Or, if it is being delivered to a customer that already has KMS set up, it's no issue.  It will activate at the customer's site.  Remember that KMS is not a permanent activation.  It has to periodically go back to the KMS and reactivate itself.

    "Normal practice is Install, Configure, Test, add software necessary i.e. Activate when ready to deliver"

    That sounds a little strange.  Is the customer to whom you are delivering this on your license?  Or it it just another department within your organization?  I'm not a licensing expert, but that does not sound like the normal use of volume licensing, as volume licensing is granted to an organization for its use, not for resale.  So if you have MAK keys, are they from the customer?  So many questions because this sounds so strange a process.  I surely hope you have discussed what you are doing with your legal department.


    .:|:.:|:. tim



    Friday, November 08, 2013 3:25 PM
  • >> That sounds a little strange.  Is the customer to whom you are delivering this on your license?  Or it it just another department within your organization? 

    END USER of course.  Lots of people cheat - WE DON'T !

    Used the the Download link and license key link from the Customers Order page.

    Which now show 2 activations

    >>I'm not a licensing expert

    Nor am I. Should have bought a OEM license - its cheaper too!!
    OEM is tied to hardware - License version isn't... so free to upgrade to more powerful box, if necessary

    There are only 2 Servers. 1 Physical & 1 VM to run Exchange. I don't see any need to add another Server.

    Windows 7/8 and Office are bout with the PC - so no need for License server

    BTW - removed the key - added the MAK key and activated

    We've downloaded Server ISO again gonna have another go - just for fun !

    ** Could do with a MS Licensing expert chiming in here **

    • Edited by bhrt60 Friday, November 08, 2013 5:48 PM
    Friday, November 08, 2013 5:28 PM
  • "** Could do with a MS Licensing expert chiming in here **" - You have to call Microsoft or contact your licensed Microsoft reseller for that.  This is not a licensing forum, and I highly doubt that Microsoft would set one up for legal reasons.  Trained licensing specialists will look at your particular contract to answer questions in the context of your contract.  Not every company has the same contract as the next company. 

    Personally, I still prefer a KMS.  It is simple to set up for an organization.  It doesn't have any sort of limit on the number of activations like the MAK does.  Don't have to worry about somebody hijacking the MAK key.  Reinstalling a server does not require entering a new key, which decrements the limited number of activations on a MAK.

    But, others like the extra effort.  To each their own.


    .:|:.:|:. tim

    Saturday, November 09, 2013 12:13 AM