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AnswerClarification on SCCM SP2 client upgrade

  • Tuesday, November 03, 2009 7:45 PMnickmo Users MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers Medals
     
    This is a new question based upon an older post that I didn't want to slip through the cracks since it was already "answered". http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/configmgrgeneral/thread/f11b29c6-b5c2-4a19-91c6-fe93c248ee8f

    According to the above post, if Client Push Installation is enabled and the Clear Install Flag maintenance task is also enabled, then this will result in an "instantaneous" upgrade of all clients.  For those of us that need to maintain version control on systems, this would be a very bad thing to have the entire environment suddenly upgrade.  A few of us would be most greatful if someone can confirm or deny the above statement so that we can plan our upgrade appropriately.

    Nick Moseley - SCCM Admin http://t3chn1ck.wordpress.com

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  • Wednesday, November 04, 2009 12:17 AMJohn MarcumMVP, ModeratorUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers Medals
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    Automatic client push can not be used to upgrade clients after a SP. You must do this with manual client push or a software distribution. The clear install flag just changes client=yes to client=no in the database if the client hasn't sent up hearbeat in xx number of days. It has nothing to do with the actual clients.



    John Marcum | http://www.TrueSec.com/en/Training.htm | http://myitforum.com/cs2/blogs/jmarcum
    • Proposed As Answer byGarth JonesMVPWednesday, November 04, 2009 1:56 PM
    • Marked As Answer bynickmo Wednesday, November 04, 2009 3:23 PM
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  • Tuesday, November 03, 2009 8:16 PMSpasinator Users MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers Medals
     
    According to this you are right. Right?

    http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb694040.aspx




    Also i believe if you have the SUP updated to 4.00.6487.2000 *which is the newest version with SP2 i believe*   and you have client push installed it will automaticlay update to the new published version. is that correct?


    so do not publish the client on the SUP and use software distribution *http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb632690.aspx* to target specfic computers that you  want to upgrade..  idk

    but if you do the clear install flag method, according to the tech net article from what i understand is it will instantaniously push out newest upgrade right away.



  • Tuesday, November 03, 2009 10:55 PMnickmo Users MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers Medals
     
    According to this you are right. Right?

    http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb694040.aspx
    I feel the technet article is ambiguous.  It doesn't clearly state anything about an upgrade scenario that if the option is enabled, it will result in an automatic upgrade :-(
    Nick Moseley - SCCM Admin http://t3chn1ck.wordpress.com
  • Wednesday, November 04, 2009 12:17 AMJohn MarcumMVP, ModeratorUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers Medals
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    Automatic client push can not be used to upgrade clients after a SP. You must do this with manual client push or a software distribution. The clear install flag just changes client=yes to client=no in the database if the client hasn't sent up hearbeat in xx number of days. It has nothing to do with the actual clients.



    John Marcum | http://www.TrueSec.com/en/Training.htm | http://myitforum.com/cs2/blogs/jmarcum
    • Proposed As Answer byGarth JonesMVPWednesday, November 04, 2009 1:56 PM
    • Marked As Answer bynickmo Wednesday, November 04, 2009 3:23 PM
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  • Wednesday, November 04, 2009 9:15 AMJie-Feng Ren - MSFTMSFT, ModeratorUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers Medals
     
    Also, You can launch client push installation wizard to upgrade clients needed from collection.
    Jie-Feng Ren - MSFT
  • Wednesday, November 04, 2009 1:57 PMGarth JonesMVPUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers Medals
     
    Jonh is correct, it will NOT auto upgrade clients to SP2.
    http://www.enhansoft.com/
  • Wednesday, November 04, 2009 4:22 PMSpasinator Users MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers Medals
     
    sorry if this is a off topic question but.

    Q. is there a 64bit client version of SCCM?
    Q. http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ee344318.aspx is that the only documentation of SCCM SP2?


    Also:

    I ran a report just to see if anything client had been upgraded and indeed there were clients upgraded that i did not do a client push to.

    so i went to the computers and they did have them installed just to crosscheck my report..

    so...?
  • Wednesday, November 04, 2009 7:31 PMnickmo Users MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers Medals
     
    sorry if this is a off topic question but.

    Q. is there a 64bit client version of SCCM?
    Q. http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ee344318.aspx is that the only documentation of SCCM SP2?


    Also:

    I ran a report just to see if anything client had been upgraded and indeed there were clients upgraded that i did not do a client push to.

    so i went to the computers and they did have them installed just to crosscheck my report..

    so...?

    1. The client is only 32bit - but there are some components (XML, BITS, etc) that can be either 32/64bit depending upon the architecture.  CCMSetup determines this and will install the appropriate components.
     
    2. You can find more information within the help file for the service pack.

    Thanks for the heads up on the automatic client upgrade, I'll keep an eye on that in my lab.
    Nick Moseley - SCCM Admin http://t3chn1ck.wordpress.com
  • Wednesday, November 04, 2009 7:31 PMJohn MarcumMVP, ModeratorUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers Medals
     
    I don't know how they got upgraded but I can tell you it wasn't from automatic client push. Were you targeting a collection with the upgrade package from a previous upgrade?


    John Marcum | http://www.TrueSec.com/en/Training.htm | http://myitforum.com/cs2/blogs/jmarcum
  • Wednesday, November 04, 2009 9:23 PMSpasinator Users MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers Medals
     
    I don't know how they got upgraded but I can tell you it wasn't from automatic client push. Were you targeting a collection with the upgrade package from a previous upgrade?


    John Marcum | http://www.TrueSec.com/en/Training.htm | http://myitforum.com/cs2/blogs/jmarcum

    Nope, i will have to look into it furthur.

    Also, I am surprised that in SP2 that they did not make a " All Windows 7 Systems" Collection.

    I am sorry if these are newbie questions, as i am new to SMS world.

    Thanks,