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  • Friday, April 10, 2009 12:02 PMVitalie Ciobanu Users MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers Medals
     

    Hi All,

    Can someone point out what are the differences between using Capture Media and ImageX to get a .wim file?

    What I noticed is that with Capture media you can capture a volume only but with ImageX you can capture partitions too.

    Why I’m asking? Until today I always used Imagex, using Capture Media today I saw that it is doing something with the configmgr client. Does configmgr client needs some preparations before a machine is syspreped…?

    If I use ImageX to capture an image, will configmgr client work well on all deployed machines using that image?

    Thanks!

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  • Friday, April 10, 2009 6:47 PMKenny BuntinxMVPUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers Medals
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    Hi ,

    If you want to capture manually with sysprep , please keep in mind that :

    1.You schould log in to your windows
    2. copy over the sysprep folderto the c:\Sysprep
    3. STOP the smsexec service
    4. Navigate to c:\Windows\smscfg.ini and delete the file !
    5. Run Sysprep
    6. Boot to Winpe2.0
    7. Run imagex and capture the image

    That are basically what the Capture Media is doing .


    Hope it helps , Kenny Buntinx www.scug.be/blogs/sccm/

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  • Friday, April 10, 2009 3:30 PMJohn MarcumMVPUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers Medals
     
    Capture media just automates sysprep and everything. I generally capture with imagex manually.
    John Marcum, Systems Management Architect - www.TrueSec.com
  • Friday, April 10, 2009 5:41 PMJason SandysMVPUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers Medals
     
    Capture Media is using a hidden, undocumented TS to perform its actions. Although I hadn't thought about it before, one of the tasks in that hidden TS is probably the Prepare ConfigMgr client task which performs the steps outlined here: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb694095.aspx.

    Technically, the images captured are identical because Capture Media TS is just using ImageX and can thus be used in the same manner.
    Jason | http://myitforum.com/cs2/blogs/jsandys
  • Friday, April 10, 2009 6:47 PMKenny BuntinxMVPUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers Medals
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    Hi ,

    If you want to capture manually with sysprep , please keep in mind that :

    1.You schould log in to your windows
    2. copy over the sysprep folderto the c:\Sysprep
    3. STOP the smsexec service
    4. Navigate to c:\Windows\smscfg.ini and delete the file !
    5. Run Sysprep
    6. Boot to Winpe2.0
    7. Run imagex and capture the image

    That are basically what the Capture Media is doing .


    Hope it helps , Kenny Buntinx www.scug.be/blogs/sccm/
  • Friday, April 10, 2009 10:53 PMJohn MarcumMVPUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers Medals
     
    3. STOP the smsexec service
    4. Navigate to c:\Windows\smscfg.ini and delete the file !

    Hope it helps , Kenny Buntinx www.scug.be/blogs/sccm/

    I suggest you simply do not install the SCCM client on the reference machine if you are going to capture manually, the task sequence will install it when you install the image from OSD. 
    John Marcum, Systems Management Architect - www.TrueSec.com
  • Friday, April 10, 2009 11:12 PMJason SandysMVPUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers Medals
     
    I concur. However, why not use a Build and Capture Task Sequence? Why waste all that manual effort building, and rebuilding, and rebuilding and rebuilding, and rebuilding images?
    Jason | http://myitforum.com/cs2/blogs/jsandys
  • Friday, April 10, 2009 11:20 PMJohn MarcumMVPUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers Medals
     
    A lot of people who use thick images can not use the build and capture TS because they have apps that are not packaged and don't play nice with SCCM. For a thin image or for people who have all the apps packaged I agree 100% with you.
    John Marcum, Systems Management Architect - www.TrueSec.com
  • Saturday, April 11, 2009 7:58 PMKenny BuntinxMVPUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers Medals
     
    3. STOP the smsexec service
    4. Navigate to c:\Windows\smscfg.ini and delete the file !

    Hope it helps , Kenny Buntinx www.scug.be/blogs/sccm/

    I suggest you simply do not install the SCCM client on the reference machine if you are going to capture manually, the task sequence will install it when you install the image from OSD. 
    John Marcum, Systems Management Architect - www.TrueSec.com
    John ,

    You cannot exclude the agent install , because your "setup windows & configmgr client " step is needed to complete any installation .This means also that your client is automatically installed .( This is something the configmgr product team should change in v5

    Hope it helps , Kenny Buntinx www.scug.be/blogs/sccm/
  • Saturday, April 11, 2009 9:29 PMJohn MarcumMVPUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers Medals
     
    You are saying the "setup windows & configmgr client" step when installing the image correct? What I was saying is that you do not have to have the SCCM client in the reference image so why add it if you intend to capture the image using imagex rather than using the capture media. I am not talking about using the build and capture task sequence, I am talking about buidling a thick image manually.
    John Marcum, Systems Management Architect - www.TrueSec.com
  • Sunday, April 12, 2009 1:47 PMVitalie Ciobanu Users MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers Medals
     
    Hi All,

    Thank you all for your replies!

    You have replied to my question and also pointed out some nice and helpful things.

    Thanks again!
  • Tuesday, April 14, 2009 11:43 AMKenny BuntinxMVPUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers Medals
     
    You are saying the "setup windows & configmgr client" step when installing the image correct? What I was saying is that you do not have to have the SCCM client in the reference image so why add it if you intend to capture the image using imagex rather than using the capture media. I am not talking about using the build and capture task sequence, I am talking about buidling a thick image manually.
    John Marcum, Systems Management Architect - www.TrueSec.com

    John ,

    My bad ... I should read better :-) Indeed when you build them manually , you do not need the client :-)


    Hope it helps , Kenny Buntinx www.scug.be/blogs/sccm/
  • Wednesday, September 02, 2009 4:09 AMJeremy Whittaker Users MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers Medals
     

    Is it possible to just do a capture from within the SCCM manager using PXE?  I have successfully done build & capture.  But I want to deploy Windows, customize it, and capture this as an image.  How can i do this?  Is it possible without ImageX or creating the capture CD?  Seems like you should be able to do this automated with PXE some how.




    Jeremy Whittaker MCSE MCSA CCNA CCA Senior Consultant N2 Network Solutions http://www.N2NetworkSolutions.com
  • Wednesday, September 02, 2009 4:40 AMJohn MarcumMVPUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers Medals
     

    You could just boot to PE anad capture with imagex


    John Marcum | http://www.TrueSec.com/en/Training.htm | http://myitforum.com/cs2/blogs/jmarcum
  • Wednesday, September 02, 2009 4:40 AMJohn MarcumMVPUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers Medals
     
    or you can use the capture cd
    John Marcum | http://www.TrueSec.com/en/Training.htm | http://myitforum.com/cs2/blogs/jmarcum
  • Wednesday, September 02, 2009 4:58 AMJeremy Whittaker Users MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers Medals
     
    Is it not possible to create a task sequence and push it out to the machine?  This way I don't have to go to the machine to put a CD in it?  Or use imagex?  I figure if I can do a build & capture why can I not just do a capture?
    Jeremy Whittaker MCSE MCSA CCNA CCA Senior Consultant N2 Network Solutions http://www.N2NetworkSolutions.com
  • Thursday, November 05, 2009 9:04 PMN A Malik Users MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers Medals
     Proposed Answer
    6. Boot to Winpe2.0
    7. Run imagex and capture the image

    Hi,
    Can you please provide more details about the 6 and 7 step ?
    I am using WDS installed on Windows Server 2008, and i am supposed to capture image of Vista client.
    • Proposed As Answer byN A Malik Thursday, November 05, 2009 9:05 PM
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  • Thursday, November 05, 2009 9:08 PMN A Malik Users MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers Medals
     
    Hi All,

    Thank you all for your replies!

    You have replied to my question and also pointed out some nice and helpful things.

    Thanks again!

    hi
    i need same help, can you elaborate 6 and 7 step for me ?
  • Friday, November 06, 2009 1:48 AMJohn MarcumMVPUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers Medals
     
    here's a guide on steps 6 and 7

    http://www.windowsvistaplace.com/capturing-a-custom-image-using-imagex-and-a-generic-winpe-disk/business-desktop-deployment


    John Marcum | http://www.TrueSec.com/en/Training.htm | http://myitforum.com/cs2/blogs/jmarcum
  • Friday, November 06, 2009 1:50 AMJohn MarcumMVPUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers Medals
     
    And here's another guide if you don't have MDT and you want to manually create the PE boot disk from WAIK. Just don't forget to add imagex to it.

    http://www.vistapcguy.net/?p=71


    John Marcum | http://www.TrueSec.com/en/Training.htm | http://myitforum.com/cs2/blogs/jmarcum
  • Friday, November 06, 2009 7:14 PMN A Malik Users MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers Medals
     
    Thank you for your concern i will go through the links you recommended.
    Here also can you clear me if i should install the Imagex on the WDS server running on the Server 2008 ?
  • Friday, November 06, 2009 11:10 PMJohn MarcumMVPUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers Medals
     
    you don't install imagex you add it to your winpe disk.


    John Marcum | http://www.TrueSec.com/en/Training.htm | http://myitforum.com/cs2/blogs/jmarcum
  • Saturday, November 07, 2009 12:18 PMN A Malik Users MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers Medals
     
    Hi

    Then how i can add it and what you meant by WinPe disk ? Can you please explain a bit for me/
  • Saturday, November 07, 2009 1:12 PMJohn MarcumMVPUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers Medals
     
    if u go follow those links i posted u will understand



    John Marcum | http://www.TrueSec.com/en/Training.htm | http://myitforum.com/cs2/blogs/jmarcum
  • Sunday, November 08, 2009 11:20 AMN A Malik Users MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers Medals
     
    hi
    yes i got it now, but one guide is for XP and other is for Vista, i need for vita and unfortunatly for vista it is a little bit complex, anyways i got some basic understanding.