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connecting from skydrive pro to sharepoint 2010 behind fuag

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  • hi

    I'd like to somehow allow our sharepoint environment which is published via forefront unified access gateway to be accessible via skydrive pro.  Can someone help me figure this out?

    thanks!

    Tuesday, July 09, 2013 8:19 PM

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  • Hiya, 

    Do you have DirectAccess implemented?

    Wednesday, July 10, 2013 9:55 AM
  • no I do not, is that a requirement?  I'm happy to do it, but I've seen nothing concrete on this.

    Wednesday, July 10, 2013 1:21 PM
  • Are you looking to provide SSO to Skydrive through UAG as well?
    Wednesday, July 10, 2013 2:47 PM
  • yes and no.  We may have some off domain users using it, so SSO wouldn't really work well, no? 

    Wednesday, July 10, 2013 2:49 PM
  • I guess my next question is if it's a requirement for you.   The primary obstacle with cloud services through UAG is the authentication piece and controlling the credentials.   Skydrive doesn't support ADFS either.

    Are you wanting to deliver skydrive through your portal alongside your other published applications, as well as bind the skydrive credentials to the user's AD credentials?     Is that what you're looking for?

    Wednesday, July 10, 2013 2:58 PM
  • I'm basically looking for a way in which people can use skydrive to access sharepoint files, similar to lets say DropBox.  If its on the work (domain) computer, it works whether they are on our network, on vpn or just at home.  If in some users cases like CEO, etc, they can install skydrive on a home computer and also get to it as well.

    does this make sense?

    Wednesday, July 10, 2013 3:00 PM
  • Sorry for confusion on my part, but are you looking to manage credentials for both skydrive and AD from a central location?

    Wednesday, July 10, 2013 3:12 PM
  • Well I'm not terribly familiar with Skydrive obviously, but I somewhat don't have a preference on where credentials are managed.  If the user has to put them in while off network or on a home computer that is fine.  The main goal is just to allow skydrive to be a place to access files on or off domain computers and on and off network.

    No worries on the confusion as its more likely I'm stating things incorrectly.  

    As an fyi though, Sharepoint 2010 itself is published successfully as well as mysites via uag.

    Wednesday, July 10, 2013 3:22 PM
  • The challenge is that once you try to merge internal enterprise applications with the cloud a whole lot of obstacles appear.    UAG was written for enterprise application publishing without any mechanism to connect to the cloud.    Is skydrive the only cloud application you're looking to publish to your users?

    The only way to publish cloud resources through UAG is by leveraging a 3rd party solution.   Not trying to turn this into a sales pitch, but we do have  an add on product to UAG which enables seamless cloud application publishing & management which might be a fit: http://www.portsys.com/index.php/products/portsys-tac/application-control/cloud-control

    Wednesday, July 10, 2013 3:40 PM
  • hmmm... my concern with a 3rd party product is cost.  Plus, is it still considered a cloud product if were lookign to use skydrive pro for accessing internal resources and not for the regular skydrive use?

    thanks

    Wednesday, July 10, 2013 4:49 PM
  • Skydrive Pro is still a cloud application as it stores the data externally from your network and has it's own independent authentication repository (Office 365).     Is Skydrive Pro the only element of Office 365 you use, or are you also using the other stuff as well?    I was assuming your exchange/MOSS stuff was internally hosted.

    Wednesday, July 10, 2013 4:59 PM
  • I think were misunderstanding eachother.  We are NOT using Skydrive Pro in conjunction with Office365.  It works perfectly for me from our internally built sharepoint site or when I try to sync a library which is on my internal network (or vpn).  It saves the files to be sync in a temp directory on my harddrive if off network and then uploads it when i'm within the network or on VPN to my internal network.

    I have no accounts with office365, but I know skydrive pro is a main feature of office365, but this is not our case.  All i'm trying to do is enable our users to use skydrive pro to access urls which are published via uag to our internal sharepoint 2010.

    Wednesday, July 10, 2013 5:19 PM
  • Sorry for the confusion as we typically see Office 365 involvement in the context you are speaking of.   That being said, you're still facing permission/authentication challenges that cannot be overcome with UAG settings unfortunately.    A sharepoint URL delivered through a UAG trunk is going to rely on a UAG authenticated session each and every time.   Skydrive Pro is in the cloud and will not wrap into UAG.

    • Proposed as answer by Keith Plaskett Wednesday, July 10, 2013 6:03 PM
    • Unproposed as answer by mrosePI Wednesday, July 10, 2013 6:05 PM
    Wednesday, July 10, 2013 6:01 PM
  • I appreciate the help Keith, the initial response was regarding directaccess, so I'd like to keep this open for potentially more responses.

    thanks again though

    Wednesday, July 10, 2013 6:05 PM
  • You're welcome.  Happy to help.. 
    Wednesday, July 10, 2013 6:16 PM
  • Hiya, 

    From reading the below, its still not quite clear for me what you want to achieve. 

    As far as I read it, you want to allow clients to synchronize content from SharePoint 2010 to their local drives?

    If yes, is this for  both domain and non-domain users?

    If no, it's still not clear to me.

    The DirectAccess can be used to basically provide a seamless, always on, VPN connection with your internal resources. That is why its interesting, depending on what you want :)

    Thursday, July 11, 2013 11:15 AM
  • Hi Jesper,

    yes domain and potential non-domain users.  The idea of Skydrive to do it is intriguing because it reminds users of DropBox which is something they love but obviously there are security concerns.

    Thursday, July 11, 2013 1:40 PM
  • Alright.

    Here are a few thoughts to work with :)

    1: For SharePoint 2010, you have workspaces and not SkyDrive Pro.

    2: SkyDrive Pro is for SharePoint 2013.

    So that would give you the shares functionality.

    3: DirectAccess could give you access to the sites and hence the the work spaces from "anywhere" on your domain computers. (if they at IPv6 capable.

    4: "Normal" VPN will obviously also give you that.

    5: I'm not 100% sure on how I would tackle non-domain users. On the other hand, I'm not sure I would want non-domain/non-controlled users to access.

    There are quite a few things to consider, but the above should give you some directions on where you could go. As far as I understand your top requirement, yes SharePoint 2010 Workspaces and UAG DirectAccess could give you what you want.

    Thursday, July 11, 2013 7:22 PM
  • thanks, i'll try directaccess, and I understand what you say about external users.

    Also, Skydrive works perfectly fine on Sharepoint 2010, at least internally, I've been using it for months without issue.  

    Thursday, July 11, 2013 7:23 PM
  • Hmmm... Gotta got some input from my colleagues on that SkyDrive Pro with SP2010.

    My only reference was:

    http://office.microsoft.com/en-001/sharepoint-server-help/what-is-skydrive-pro-HA102822076.aspx 

    Thursday, July 11, 2013 8:04 PM
  • Hmmm... Gotta got some input from my colleagues on that SkyDrive Pro with SP2010.

    My only reference was:

    http://office.microsoft.com/en-001/sharepoint-server-help/what-is-skydrive-pro-HA102822076.aspx 

    You are absolutely right.
    Friday, July 12, 2013 7:04 AM