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Windows 8.1 Enterprise Preview - Inplace Upgrade using setup.exe /auto:upgrade

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  • I'm looking to see if anyone has successfully gotten the upgrade to work using this method. So far, I cannot get a system to do the inplace upgrade from Windows 8 Enterprise to Windows 8.1 Enterprise Preview.

    I am using extracted contents of the 8.1 preview. I've tried copying it locally, but it just exits out early in the install. The setupacc and setuperr logs do not contain any useful information.

    I'm looking to hear anyone else's experience with it.

    As a side note, I have gotten a VM to install unattended and join the domain using the new ADK and MDT 2013 preview...so I know the contents of the ISO are good.
    Wednesday, July 31, 2013 1:12 PM

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  • All,

    I ran setup.exe manually and clicked through to do the upgrade and got this screen. I'm assuming this is most likely WHY it is not wanting to do the upgrade. I'm going to manually remove APP-V and test the /auto:upgrade again on a VM that is domain joined. I'm not sure of the version...it is either the App-V 4.6 SP2 or the App-V 5.0 SP1.

    • Marked as answer by James Ihde Wednesday, July 31, 2013 5:46 PM
    Wednesday, July 31, 2013 4:00 PM

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  • I did an in place upgrade from Windows 8 Enterprise. Do not extract the content locally, just mount your ISO image and run the setup.exe /auto:upgrade or prepare an USB devices and same command.

    I used the USB device, but I am pretty sure your problem is because you extract all the content into a folder.


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    Wednesday, July 31, 2013 2:32 PM
  • If you're running Windows 8 Enterprise, you'll need to install the Windows 8.1 Preview using the ISO. If you upgrade from Windows 8 Enterprise to Windows 8.1 Preview, you will "Keep personal files only", but will lose your settings and have to reinstall all of your apps. Unlike the conventional Windows 8 and Windows 8 Pro upgrade, one cannot perform a direct upgrade from the original Windows 8 Enterprise edition to Windows 8.1 Preview. 


    Carey Frisch

    Wednesday, July 31, 2013 2:32 PM
  • If you're running Windows 8 Enterprise, you'll need to install the Windows 8.1 Preview using the ISO. If you upgrade from Windows 8 Enterprise to Windows 8.1 Preview, you will "Keep personal files only", but will lose your settings and have to reinstall all of your apps. Unlike the conventional Windows 8 and Windows 8 Pro upgrade, one cannot perform a direct upgrade from the original Windows 8 Enterprise edition to Windows 8.1 Preview. 


    Carey Frisch


    But he is not trying to upgrade from Enterprise to 8.1 PRO Preview, he is going to upgrade from Enterprise to Enterprise Preview, so there is not problem with that. I did upgrade without any issue.

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    Wednesday, July 31, 2013 2:37 PM
  • Correct, I am going from a domain joined Windows 8 Enterprise to Windows 8.1 Enterprise Preview (both 64-bit).

    At the VIP event I went to they showed doing it in place using SCCM 2012 (it may have been R2 Preview....not sure). This is not working for me.

    I will give it a try mounting the ISO and seeing if that makes any difference.
    Wednesday, July 31, 2013 2:48 PM
  • Correct, I am going from a domain joined Windows 8 Enterprise to Windows 8.1 Enterprise Preview (both 64-bit).

    At the VIP event I went to they showed doing it in place using SCCM 2012 (it may have been R2 Preview....not sure). This is not working for me.

    I will give it a try mounting the ISO and seeing if that makes any difference.

    It should work. Please, let us know.

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    Wednesday, July 31, 2013 2:50 PM
  • Correct, I am going from a domain joined Windows 8 Enterprise to Windows 8.1 Enterprise Preview (both 64-bit).

    At the VIP event I went to they showed doing it in place using SCCM 2012 (it may have been R2 Preview....not sure). This is not working for me.

    I will give it a try mounting the ISO and seeing if that makes any difference.


    It should work. Please, let us know.

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    No dice. Mounting the ISO to the VM and running setup.exe from it behaves exactly the same.
    The setupacc.log only has this:

    Wednesday, July 31, 2013 3:02 PM
  • This is how it goes when I launch it:

    I choose to "Start over from the beginning"



    Then the Windows disappears and nothing happens. Looking in taskmgr there is no setup.exe running.

    Wednesday, July 31, 2013 3:05 PM
  • Can you try on another VM? I think your current one has some problems from the preview installation. That way you will see if from an ISO file works.

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    Wednesday, July 31, 2013 3:10 PM
  • Upgrading from Windows 8 Enterprise to Enterprise Windows 8.1 Update Preview is not supported.  This is by design (and as a precaution) so that those running Windows 8 Enterprise in a production environment do not upgrade since the drive would have to be reimaged once the final version of Windows 8.1 Update is released.

    Carey Frisch

    Wednesday, July 31, 2013 3:22 PM
  • Tested from another clean VM (Standard Windows 8 x64 Enterprise Domain Joined VM) with mounting the ISO and it behaves exactly the same way.

    Are there any logs that get generated or a way to have it generate logs? Currently the setupacc.log and setuperr.log are sparse (setuperr.log is empty).

    Again, I CAN use this same ISO to do a bare metal install when booting up a new machine. In addition, I used this iso to import the bits into MDT 2013 and that worked without issue. I'm just having issues with the setup.exe /auto:upgrade bombing out.
    Wednesday, July 31, 2013 3:22 PM
  • Carey,

    Thank you for the information. My question then is WHY advertise this feature if it is not included in the preview...especially if the preview is to test this functionality? I assume they used a special build at the Microsoft VIP Summit? I saw the live demo where they used SCCM 2012 to kick off the setup.exe /auto:upgrade and it worked.

    Is there any document that specifically states this is NOT available in the 8.1 Enterprise preview? I'm not saying I don't believe you, I just (again) do not understand why it would be advertised on the blog post.

    Wednesday, July 31, 2013 3:26 PM
  • Upgrading from Windows 8 Enterprise to Enterprise Windows 8.1 Update Preview is not supported.  This is by design (and as a precaution) so that those running Windows 8 Enterprise in a production environment do not upgrade since the drive would have to be reimaged once the final version of Windows 8.1 Update is released.

    Carey Frisch

    It is supported. You can upgrade from Enterprise to Enterprise Preview. See what the official announce says:

    "For customers presently using Windows 8 Enterprise, the path to Windows 8.1 Enterprise is simple. You can leverage a fully-automated process to update existing Windows 8 systems. This process can be initiated using any software distribution or management tool, just by running “setup.exe /auto:upgrade” from the Windows 8.1 installation files."

    Source: http://blogs.windows.com/windows/b/springboard/archive/2013/07/30/start-your-windows-8-1-deployment-planning.aspx


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    Wednesday, July 31, 2013 3:32 PM
  • That blog is referring to the implementation of the final, released version of Windows 8.1 Update and not the Windows 8.1 Update Preview.

    Carey Frisch

    Wednesday, July 31, 2013 3:38 PM
  • Tested from another clean VM (Standard Windows 8 x64 Enterprise Domain Joined VM) with mounting the ISO and it behaves exactly the same way.

    Are there any logs that get generated or a way to have it generate logs? Currently the setupacc.log and setuperr.log are sparse (setuperr.log is empty).

    Again, I CAN use this same ISO to do a bare metal install when booting up a new machine. In addition, I used this iso to import the bits into MDT 2013 and that worked without issue. I'm just having issues with the setup.exe /auto:upgrade bombing out.
    I don't understand. I did an upgrade from Enterprise but using a USB device prepared with Windows 8.1 Enterprise Preview. Let me see if I can upgrade from a VM using just the mounted ISO.

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    Wednesday, July 31, 2013 3:39 PM
  • Tested from another clean VM (Standard Windows 8 x64 Enterprise Domain Joined VM) with mounting the ISO and it behaves exactly the same way.

    Are there any logs that get generated or a way to have it generate logs? Currently the setupacc.log and setuperr.log are sparse (setuperr.log is empty).

    Again, I CAN use this same ISO to do a bare metal install when booting up a new machine. In addition, I used this iso to import the bits into MDT 2013 and that worked without issue. I'm just having issues with the setup.exe /auto:upgrade bombing out.

    I don't understand. I did an upgrade from Enterprise but using a USB device prepared with Windows 8.1 Enterprise Preview. Let me see if I can upgrade from a VM using just the mounted ISO.

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    Thank you Sergio.
    Just for testing, I logged in as local admin to the domain joined VM and it behaved the same. Just wanted to check and see if it was something between a domain and local account.

    For reference, can you tell me if the systems you are working with are domain joined or not? I can easily drop a VM from our domain to test the migration with it in a workgroup. Let me know please.
    Wednesday, July 31, 2013 3:41 PM
  • That blog is referring to the implementation of the final, released version of Windows 8.1 Update and not the Windows 8.1 Update Preview.

    Carey Frisch

    Carey, it will be the same process. As I said, I did an in place upgrade from Enterprise to Enterprise Preview by using the setup.exe /auto:upgrade.

    I respect your opinion, but I don't see where Microsoft says the process is not supported in the Preview release yet. You will be able to upgrade to the final release even from the Preview release without keeping your apps, just data.


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    Wednesday, July 31, 2013 3:45 PM
  • I dropped one of my VMs from the domain and put it in a workgroup (and reboot). Logged back in, launched an Admin elevated cmd prompt, cd to the CDROM drive and ran setup.exe /auto:upgrade. It behaved the same way. Got the the "Making sure you're ready to install" screen and then disappeared.

    Only thing I can think to do is try a bare metal Windows 8 Enterprise from OEM media and then kicking off the Enterprise 8.1 upgrade. However, that still doesn't explain WHY it is not working in this instance. I would think this would be good feedback data to get to Microsoft. If only there was a log file that had SOME sort of information in it.
    Wednesday, July 31, 2013 3:55 PM
  • All,

    I ran setup.exe manually and clicked through to do the upgrade and got this screen. I'm assuming this is most likely WHY it is not wanting to do the upgrade. I'm going to manually remove APP-V and test the /auto:upgrade again on a VM that is domain joined. I'm not sure of the version...it is either the App-V 4.6 SP2 or the App-V 5.0 SP1.

    • Marked as answer by James Ihde Wednesday, July 31, 2013 5:46 PM
    Wednesday, July 31, 2013 4:00 PM
  • I dropped one of my VMs from the domain and put it in a workgroup (and reboot). Logged back in, launched an Admin elevated cmd prompt, cd to the CDROM drive and ran setup.exe /auto:upgrade. It behaved the same way. Got the the "Making sure you're ready to install" screen and then disappeared.

    Only thing I can think to do is try a bare metal Windows 8 Enterprise from OEM media and then kicking off the Enterprise 8.1 upgrade. However, that still doesn't explain WHY it is not working in this instance. I would think this would be good feedback data to get to Microsoft. If only there was a log file that had SOME sort of information in it.

    I will try with an Enterprise Evaluation version joined to a domain. I'm preparing the lab, I will let you know what happens.

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    Wednesday, July 31, 2013 4:00 PM
  • On the non-domain joined system I kicked off setup.exe /auto:upgrade from the mounted ISO after uninstalling App-V 4.6 SP2. It is now running.

    I've gone back to my domain joined system with SCCM 2012 SP1 and kicked off the job after I uninstalled App-V 4.6 SP2 and here is where it is at so far...well see if it properly kicks off or not.


    • Edited by James Ihde Wednesday, July 31, 2013 4:17 PM typo
    Wednesday, July 31, 2013 4:17 PM
  • Great! It makes sense, the /auto:upgrade swith will try to upgrade without any user interaction, so if it get any warning or error, will just exit.

    It should work now, but you will see it could take some time, mine took around 45 mins.


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    Wednesday, July 31, 2013 4:20 PM
  • Just to cap off this thread, the original one I launch from SCCM 2012 SP1 is pretty much stuck at installing. I think this is due to the upgrader prompting if you want to continue or start over after a unsuccessful install.

    However, on another Win 8 Enterprise VM with SCCM 2012 SP1 I kicked it off after uninstalling App-V 4.6 SP2 and it run through till completion. Here is a screenshot:

    Wednesday, July 31, 2013 5:46 PM
  • Cool, James. Thanks for sharing the result. :-)

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    Wednesday, July 31, 2013 5:51 PM
  • I kept it simple yesterday since I am just testing to see how in place upgrade is like.

    On a domain-joined WIN8 Enterprise machine, I extracted the .iso, double clicked setup.exe, followed the prompt and 40 mins later, upgraded to 8.1 Enterprise with no problem; in place upgrade, kept user profile, Desktop app, files, configuration etc.

    My SCCM client needed to get reinstalled due to C:\windows.old, other than that, so far so good.

    Now I need to see what's the best way to run this process from SCCM, so in future my users can run the in place upgrade themselves. 

    Doesnt look like Ent 8 to 8.1 is going to be like RT/Pro via Windows Update, and I think perhaps that's good too because you want to control it in the Enterprise environment.

    Wednesday, July 31, 2013 6:25 PM
  • Hello All,

    So after uninstalling App-V 4.6 SP2 and running  setup.exe /auto:upgrade was successful?

    Does anyone else still seeing issue upgrading? 

    Thanks,


    Ankito

    Friday, August 02, 2013 2:41 PM
  • Hello All,

    So after uninstalling App-V 4.6 SP2 and running  setup.exe /auto:upgrade was successful?

    Does anyone else still seeing issue upgrading? 

    Thanks,


    Ankito


    Yes, it was. Just make sure you do not have any incompatible application by running the installation wizard without any switch and you will be able to install Enterprise with the /auto:upgrade

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    Friday, August 02, 2013 3:26 PM