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System Center Design

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  • We would like to create private cloud. Now how is the best way to design it. Is it like that that we need to have one VM per software (mean one VM for VMM, one for DPM ...). Is it ok to install example VMM and Config manager on same server or it has to be different? Which licenses we need to purchase or have to be able to configure cloud (enterprise, standard).

    We would like to do like this: 2 DC for redondancy, VMM to administer Hyper-V servers and create VM's, DPM to protect every VM, SCCM to install Endpoint, OS etc, Operations manager etc. ...

    What is the best way to accomplish this without having 100 VM? Is it better to run remote SQL?

    Thank you in advance

    Monday, July 08, 2013 7:42 PM

Answers

  • When it comes to Microsoft Private Cloud, Configuration Manager is considered as the client component and not actively a part of the private cloud stack.

    System Center server contains all the other components like Virtual Machine Manager, Data Protection Manager, Operations Manager, Orchestrator, App Controller and Service Manager, while System Center client is holding Configuration Manager.

    System Center server can - out of the box deliver infrastructure as a service for you. 


    Kristian (Virtualization and some coffee: http://kristiannese.blogspot.com )

    Wednesday, August 07, 2013 4:10 AM
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  • Is there someone with experience or tips who can help me with this, please?
    Wednesday, July 10, 2013 7:19 AM
  • Hi,

    Some of the System Center 2012 SP1 components will not function properly if other components have been installed on the same computer. None of the following four components can exist on the same computer with each other:

    • DPM Management Server
    • Operations Manager Management Server
    • Service Manager Management Server
    • Service Manager Data Warehouse Management Server

    Any of the remaining System Center 2012 components, App Controller, Orchestrator, and VMM can coexist with each other and with the four components in the previous list. Therefore, four computers is the minimum number of computers that you will need to deploy all of the System Center 2012 SP1 components.

    http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/jj851033.aspx
    • Edited by Ultra_Cool Wednesday, July 10, 2013 11:54 AM aaaa
    Wednesday, July 10, 2013 9:34 AM
  • It's missing SCCM 2012 sp1 from the Component Coesistence description.  WTH?
    Wednesday, July 10, 2013 11:12 AM
  • I think that they wrote wrong. Instead of Service manager data warehouse should be SCCM because Service manager data warehouse is not SC component. It applies to System Center 2012 - Service Manager, System Center 2012 R2 Service Manager, System Center 2012 SP1 - Service Manager
    Wednesday, July 10, 2013 11:53 AM
  • Hi. Please check this guide: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/jj851033.aspx

    however, I would always recommend a dedicated VM for each component, and to share the same SQL (license that is included with SC) for the components.

    Ideally, you have several SQL instances for the different workloads since some of the components have their own SQL requirements related to collation and features.

    -kn


    Kristian (Virtualization and some coffee: http://kristiannese.blogspot.com )

    Thursday, July 11, 2013 6:39 AM
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  • Hi Kristian,

    That is the same link what ultra_cool provided but where is SCCM on that list? It is missing?


    Thursday, July 11, 2013 7:29 AM
  • When it comes to Microsoft Private Cloud, Configuration Manager is considered as the client component and not actively a part of the private cloud stack.

    System Center server contains all the other components like Virtual Machine Manager, Data Protection Manager, Operations Manager, Orchestrator, App Controller and Service Manager, while System Center client is holding Configuration Manager.

    System Center server can - out of the box deliver infrastructure as a service for you. 


    Kristian (Virtualization and some coffee: http://kristiannese.blogspot.com )

    Wednesday, August 07, 2013 4:10 AM
    Moderator