Answered Capturing windows 8

  • Wednesday, August 22, 2012 2:58 PM
     
     

    I was toying with windows 8 deployment and was busy capturing a windows 8 image but when it was taking a while i checked with trace what was going.
    when imagex scans the disk to capture it seems to do a lot of ignoring extended attributes before finally starting the capture.

    never had this happen with windows 7 captures so i take it windows 8 uses a lot of extended attributes on files.

    i read on the imagex page that it doesn't support these extended atributes but i'm sure it isn't the intention to increase deployment times by +/- 30 minutes just because imagex has to go through your disk saying it is ignoring certain attributes.

    is there anyway to stop imagex from taking it's sweet time with windows 8 captures?

    i am using a standard client task sequence.


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  • Wednesday, August 22, 2012 4:21 PM
     
     
    Are you using Windows ADK or Windows AIK? I don't think the newer tools use imagex to apply and capture images anymore.

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  • Wednesday, August 22, 2012 10:09 PM
     
     
    I had the same problem. I as using windows AIK. I will look at windows ADK and see if that works.
  • Thursday, August 23, 2012 12:11 AM
     
     

    I haven't tried using WAIK with Windows 8, but I wouldn't be surprised if there are issues with it. ImageX will be deprecated in Windows ADK and DISM will be the new tool of choice. Look here for more

    http://win-beta.net/imagex-and-other-waik-tools-to-be-deprecated-in-windows-adk/


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  • Thursday, August 23, 2012 7:12 AM
     
     

    i am using the windows ADK but it still has imagex included and the task sequence still makes use of it.

    thanks for the link about imagex getting deprecated.

    i will have to try a manual capture with DISM to see if that changes anything.

  • Thursday, August 23, 2012 11:32 AM
     
     
    Yes imageX is still found in Windows ADK but it will be going away. Are you using the latest version of MDT 2012 Update 1? Also make sure you do not have WAIK installed with Windows ADK, they can't be installed together. Just want to make sure your using the right tools.

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  • Thursday, August 23, 2012 1:18 PM
     
     

    I am using the latest ADK and MDT 2012 update 1 so no problem there.

    so far MDT uses imagex for the capturing since that is what a standard task sequence uses.

    with the manual capture through dism the capturing went much faster so i guess we will have to wait till microsoft changes it.

    So that mdt uses dism to capture when imagex really does retires.

  • Sunday, August 26, 2012 11:53 PM
     
     

    Are you sure your deployment share has the latest ImageX and WIMGAPI files?  The extended attribute messages were present in beta versions of the ADK, but are no longer present in the final RTM version.


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    -Michael Niehaus
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  • Monday, August 27, 2012 7:08 AM
     
     

    i will redownload and install the ADK to and try again.

    edit:

    reinstalled everything to be sure and tried again.

    i don't see the messages anymore but the scanning of files is still taking just about as long.

  • Monday, October 22, 2012 2:41 PM
     
     

    Hello Stefan,

    did you find a solution for this?

    Thx

  • Wednesday, October 24, 2012 8:35 AM
     
     
    Anybody who find a solution for the "extended attributes" ?
  • Friday, November 02, 2012 7:33 AM
     
     

    Download and install Windows Assessment and Deployment Kit (ADK) for Windows 8:

    Copy imagex.exe to desktop from this location (x86 in this case):

    "Program Files\Windows Kits\8.0\Assessment and Deployment Kit\Deployment Tools\x86\DISM"

    You can edit existing winpex86.iso with some tools like PowerISO and put new imagex.exe in that image or simply create new image.

    Burn new winpex86 CD and try.

    This solution work for me.


    • Edited by amko_sa Friday, November 02, 2012 7:37 AM
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  • Monday, November 12, 2012 8:39 AM
     
     
    i have been out of the loop for a while due to personal reasons so i don't know yet but the solution of amko-sa sounds like a fix will be trying that out
  • Wednesday, November 14, 2012 9:10 AM
     
     Answered

    in my absence they placed a new server with server 2012 just tried to do a capture with it with MDT 2012 and the ADK.

    not getting the messages about extended attributes but it still takes a long time before it finishes scanning files and directories before it starts the actual capturing.
    something that doesn't happen with windows 7 captures, it's not a big problem because it only adds some time to the process but it's still a little annoying.

  • Wednesday, November 14, 2012 10:19 AM
     
     

    Hi Stefan,

    thx for the answer.

    The annoying part is ...it will take half of the deployment time!

    Anybody who knows a solution for this?

    MDT 2012 beta 2 update 1?

  • Wednesday, January 16, 2013 6:38 PM
     
     

    Hello!

    Still problem..
    Anybody who knows a solution for this yet?

  • Thursday, January 17, 2013 7:47 AM
     
     
    Capturing windows 8 is taking me more time then other OS still....
    • Proposed As Answer by MrFern Thursday, January 17, 2013 1:08 PM
    • Unproposed As Answer by MrFern Thursday, January 17, 2013 1:08 PM
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  • Thursday, January 17, 2013 1:09 PM
     
     Proposed

    I remove all Built-in Applications from Windows 8 in my master image. ImageX is just as fast as in Win7 after that. 20 min shorter ImageX Capturing.

    http://blogs.technet.com/b/deploymentguys/archive/2012/10/26/removing-built-in-applications-from-windows-8.aspx


    • Proposed As Answer by MrFern Thursday, January 17, 2013 1:09 PM
    • Edited by MrFern Thursday, January 17, 2013 7:34 PM
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  • Saturday, March 09, 2013 6:34 PM
     
     

    I am happy to start using dism instead, but how would one replicate this functionality with dism:

    imagex /compress maximum /capture e: d:\win8.wim "win8"

  • Tuesday, March 12, 2013 1:34 PM
     
     

    I don´t think there is a compress option in dism but this should work.

    dism /capture-image /imagefile:D:\Win8.wim /CaptureDir:E:\ /name:Win8

    But imageX works fine if you remove Windows 8 native apps in Install.wim in OS media.

  • Sunday, March 24, 2013 8:10 PM
     
     

    The deploymentof windows 8 still takess a lot of time using mdt. Is there a solution yet?

    Thx

  • Monday, March 25, 2013 8:25 AM
     
     
    have you tried using dism instead of imagex?
  • Monday, March 25, 2013 8:37 AM
     
     

    Hi Stefan,

    how can i do this within the existing task-sequence?

    Thx

  • Monday, March 25, 2013 9:42 AM
     
      Has Code

    i have no idea how to really automate it but you could put in a run command line instead of the normal capture step which says something like this:

    Dism /Capture-Image /ImageFile:install.wim /CaptureDir:\\server\ds\capture /Compress:max /Name:Windows-8

    also take a look at this for more information about dism



  • Monday, March 25, 2013 9:56 AM
     
     

    Hi Stefan,

    will this 'fix' the speed for a deployment also ?

    Thx

  • Monday, March 25, 2013 10:16 AM
     
     

    I'm purely talking about the capture process since that is what this topic was about.

    what part of the deployment is slow for you?

    my windows 8 deployments are quite fast. The only time i capture is when i need to make a new "golden image"

  • Monday, March 25, 2013 10:36 AM
     
     

    I think this was an incident.

    Deployment now in 11 minutes.

    Thx!