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  • Tuesday, May 29, 2012 9:23 AM
     
     
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    I want to move a Trusted Application Pool from a Standard Lync edtion to a Enterprise Lync Pool

    I try to set the Registrar to the new pool, but get this error

    PS C:\> Set-CsTrustedApplicationPool -Identity AppPool.contoso.net -Registrar pool01.contoso.net

    Changing the registrar for AppPool.contoso.net will orphan the application endpoints associated with it. The application will no longer be
    usable until the application endpoints are moved to the new registrar using Move-CsApplicationEndpoint with -Force specified.
    This operation will orphan application endpoints.
    [Y] Yes  [N] No  [S] Suspend  [?] Help (default is "Y"): Y
    Set-CsTrustedApplicationPool : "1" "ExternalServer" instances have changed Registrar dependencies.
    At line:1 char:29
    + Set-CsTrustedApplicationPool <<<<  -Identity AppPool.contoso.net -Registrar pool01.contoso.net
        + CategoryInfo          : InvalidData: (:SourceCollection) [Set-CsTrustedApplicationPool], Exception
        + FullyQualifiedErrorId : TrustedApplicationPoolError,Microsoft.Rtc.Management.Xds.SetTrustedApplicationPoolCmdlet
    Set-CsTrustedApplicationPool : Cannot publish topology changes. Users or contacts still exist on one or more deleted services.
    At line:1 char:29
    + Set-CsTrustedApplicationPool <<<<  -Identity AppPool.contoso.net -Registrar pool01.contoso.net
        + CategoryInfo          : NotSpecified: (:) [Set-CsTrustedApplicationPool], InvalidOperationException
        + FullyQualifiedErrorId : System.InvalidOperationException,Microsoft.Rtc.Management.Xds.SetTrustedApplicationPoolCmdlet

    What am I doing wrong?

     

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  • Tuesday, May 29, 2012 12:57 PM
     
     
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    You have configured some endpoints in this application pool, this enpoints should be removed before you move the pool and then recreated. Or you create a new pool on the FE and move the endpoints.

    get-CsApplicationEndpoint -poolfqdn AppPool.contoso.net |fl *

    regards Holger Technical Specialist UC

     
  • Tuesday, May 29, 2012 2:49 PM
     
     
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    Hm, but isn't that what this messeage from the Set-CsTrustedApplicationPool command says?

    Changing the registrar for AppPool.contoso.net will orphan the application endpoints associated with it. The application will no longer be
    usable until the application endpoints are moved to the new registrar using Move-CsApplicationEndpoint with -Force specified.
    This operation will orphan application endpoints.

    Yes, I need to move the Application Endpoints after the move...

    I don't want to delete the Application Endpoints, because I didn't create them in the fiste place, and I don't want to lose any information...

     
  • Wednesday, May 30, 2012 8:38 AM
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    Hi,

    Since you don't want to delete the Application Endpoints, you can try to crete a new Trust Application pool on Enterprise FE pool and use Move-CsApplicationEndpoin to move application endpoints.

    http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/gg398188.aspx

    Regards,

    Kent Huang

     
  • Wednesday, May 30, 2012 3:47 PM
     
     
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    If I create a new Trusted Application pool (New-CsTrustedApplicationPool -Identity TmpAppPool.contoso.net -Registrar Registrar:pool01.contoso.com -Site 1 -ComputerFqdn TmpSrv01.contoso.net)

    I get this error when moving the Trusted Application Endpoints...

    Get-CsTrustedApplicationEndpoint -Filter {OwnerUrn -eq "urn:application:app"} | Move-CsApplicationEndpoint -TargetApplicationPool TmpAppPool.contoso.net
    Move-CsApplicationEndpoint : The application "urn:application:app" does not exist on the pool "TmpAppPool.contoso.net". Use Get-CsTrustedApplication to see the available applications or New-CsTrustedApplication to add a new one.
    At line:1 char:122
    + Get-CsTrustedApplicationEndpoint -Filter {OwnerUrn -eq "urn:application:app"} | Move-CsApplicationEndpoint <<<<  -TargetApplicationPool TmpAppPool.contoso.net
        + CategoryInfo          : InvalidOperation: (CN={2c914298-c1...=contoso,DC
       =net:OCSADApplicationContact) [Move-CsApplicationEndpoint], ManagementExce
      ption
        + FullyQualifiedErrorId : MoveError,Microsoft.Rtc.Management.AD.Cmdlets.Mo
       veOcsApplicationContactCmdlet

     
  • Friday, June 01, 2012 1:32 PM
     
     
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    Move-CsApplicationEndpoint : The application "urn:application:app" does not exist on the pool "TmpAppPool.contoso.net".

    Check your syntax, because the application endpoints are not found.

    regards Holger Technical Specialist UC

     
  • Monday, June 04, 2012 2:02 PM
     
     
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    I think it's because Trusted Application don't exist on the new Trusted Application Pool

    **********************
    Windows PowerShell Transcript Start
    Start time: 20120604154505
    Username  : CONTOSO\Administrator
    Machine   : FE01 (Microsoft Windows NT 6.1.7601 Service Pack 1)
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    Transcript started, output file is C:\Users\Administrator.CONTOSO\Documents\PowerShell_transcript.20120604154505.txt
    PS C:\> Get-CsTrustedApplicationPool


    Identity             : TrustedApplicationPool:CompetellaPool.contoso.net
    Registrar            : Registrar:std01.contoso.net
    FileStore            :
    ThrottleAsServer     : True
    TreatAsAuthenticated : True
    OutboundOnly         : False
    RequiresReplication  : True
    AudioPortStart       :
    AudioPortCount       : 0
    AppSharingPortStart  :
    AppSharingPortCount  : 0
    VideoPortStart       :
    VideoPortCount       : 0
    Applications         : {urn:application:competellapresence, urn:application:agentservice}
    DependentServiceList : {}
    ServiceId            : 1-ExternalServer-1
    SiteId               : Site:Contoso
    PoolFqdn             : CompetellaPool.contoso.net
    Version              : 5
    Role                 : TrustedApplicationPool

     

    PS C:\> Get-CsTrustedApplicationPool -Identity CompetellaPool.contoso.net | Select-Object -ExpandProperty Applications
    urn:application:competellapresence
    urn:application:agentservice
    PS C:\> Get-CsApplicationEndpoint -Filter {OwnerUrn -eq "urn:application:competellapresence"}


    Identity               : CN={2c914298-c1c3-440d-ac2c-6942b5681a37},CN=Application Contacts,CN=RTC Service,CN=Services,CN=Configuration,DC=contoso,DC=net
    RegistrarPool          : std01.contoso.net
    HomeServer             : CN=Lc Services,CN=Microsoft,CN=1:5,CN=Pools,CN=RTC Service,CN=Services,CN=Configuration,DC=contoso,DC=net
    OwnerUrn               : urn:application:competellapresence
    SipAddress             : sip:CompetellaPresence@contoso.com
    DisplayName            : Competella Presence Collector
    DisplayNumber          :
    LineURI                :
    PrimaryLanguage        : 0
    SecondaryLanguages     : {}
    EnterpriseVoiceEnabled : True
    Enabled                : True

     

    PS C:\> Get-CsApplicationEndpoint -Filter {OwnerUrn -eq "urn:application:agentservice"}


    Identity               : CN={6a730461-271a-4244-8273-df872715f782},CN=Application Contacts,CN=RTC Service,CN=Services,CN=Configuration,DC=contoso,DC=net
    RegistrarPool          : std01.contoso.net
    HomeServer             : CN=Lc Services,CN=Microsoft,CN=1:5,CN=Pools,CN=RTC Service,CN=Services,CN=Configuration,DC=contoso,DC=net
    OwnerUrn               : urn:application:agentservice
    SipAddress             : sip:reception@contoso.com
    DisplayName            : Reception (Contoso - DK)
    DisplayNumber          :
    LineURI                : tel:+4586921500
    PrimaryLanguage        : 0
    SecondaryLanguages     : {}
    EnterpriseVoiceEnabled : True
    Enabled                : True

    Identity               : CN={1c5f62c5-ecd0-4b5a-9235-cc26b5a2d05b},CN=Application Contacts,CN=RTC Service,CN=Services,CN=Configuration,DC=contoso,DC=net
    RegistrarPool          : std01.contoso.net
    HomeServer             : CN=Lc Services,CN=Microsoft,CN=1:5,CN=Pools,CN=RTC Service,CN=Services,CN=Configuration,DC=contoso,DC=net
    OwnerUrn               : urn:application:agentservice
    SipAddress             : sip:recallQ1@contoso.com
    DisplayName            : Recall
    DisplayNumber          :
    LineURI                :
    PrimaryLanguage        : 0
    SecondaryLanguages     : {}
    EnterpriseVoiceEnabled : True
    Enabled                : True

    Identity               : CN={c90b4200-863e-4b46-b64f-25de8ba037c1},CN=Application Contacts,CN=RTC Service,CN=Services,CN=Configuration,DC=contoso,DC=net
    RegistrarPool          : std01.contoso.net
    HomeServer             : CN=Lc Services,CN=Microsoft,CN=1:5,CN=Pools,CN=RTC Service,CN=Services,CN=Configuration,DC=contoso,DC=net
    OwnerUrn               : urn:application:agentservice
    SipAddress             : sip:outQ1@contoso.com
    DisplayName            : Out
    DisplayNumber          :
    LineURI                :
    PrimaryLanguage        : 0
    SecondaryLanguages     : {}
    EnterpriseVoiceEnabled : True
    Enabled                : True

    Identity               : CN={4402bf25-af46-4ef2-bfe1-3a874067678d},CN=Application Contacts,CN=RTC Service,CN=Services,CN=Configuration,DC=contoso,DC=net
    RegistrarPool          : std01.contoso.net
    HomeServer             : CN=Lc Services,CN=Microsoft,CN=1:5,CN=Pools,CN=RTC Service,CN=Services,CN=Configuration,DC=contoso,DC=net
    OwnerUrn               : urn:application:agentservice
    SipAddress             : sip:parkQ1@contoso.com
    DisplayName            : Park
    DisplayNumber          :
    LineURI                :
    PrimaryLanguage        : 0
    SecondaryLanguages     : {}
    EnterpriseVoiceEnabled : True
    Enabled                : True

    Identity               : CN={6517dc0f-2089-45ef-9478-38a2adf2d742},CN=Application Contacts,CN=RTC Service,CN=Services,CN=Configuration,DC=contoso,DC=net
    RegistrarPool          : std01.contoso.net
    HomeServer             : CN=Lc Services,CN=Microsoft,CN=1:5,CN=Pools,CN=RTC Service,CN=Services,CN=Configuration,DC=contoso,DC=net
    OwnerUrn               : urn:application:agentservice
    SipAddress             : sip:dialout01@contoso.com
    DisplayName            : Dialout01
    DisplayNumber          :
    LineURI                :
    PrimaryLanguage        : 0
    SecondaryLanguages     : {}
    EnterpriseVoiceEnabled : True
    Enabled                : True

    Identity               : CN={fb3f19fe-21e6-40d5-a6c1-1d3ac43b7663},CN=Application Contacts,CN=RTC Service,CN=Services,CN=Configuration,DC=contoso,DC=net
    RegistrarPool          : std01.contoso.net
    HomeServer             : CN=Lc Services,CN=Microsoft,CN=1:5,CN=Pools,CN=RTC Service,CN=Services,CN=Configuration,DC=contoso,DC=net
    OwnerUrn               : urn:application:agentservice
    SipAddress             : sip:dialout02@contoso.com
    DisplayName            : Dialout02
    DisplayNumber          :
    LineURI                :
    PrimaryLanguage        : 0
    SecondaryLanguages     : {}
    EnterpriseVoiceEnabled : True
    Enabled                : True

     

    PS C:\> New-CsTrustedApplicationPool -Identity TmpAppPool.contoso.net -Registrar Registrar:pool01.contoso.net -Site 1 -ComputerFqdn TmpSrv01.contoso.net
    WARNING: The following changes must be made in order for the operation to be complete.
    Enable-CsTopology must still be run for all changes to take effect.


    Identity             : 1-ExternalServer-2
    Registrar            : Registrar:pool01.contoso.net
    FileStore            :
    ThrottleAsServer     : True
    TreatAsAuthenticated : True
    OutboundOnly         : False
    RequiresReplication  : True
    AudioPortStart       :
    AudioPortCount       : 0
    AppSharingPortStart  :
    AppSharingPortCount  : 0
    VideoPortStart       :
    VideoPortCount       : 0
    Applications         : {}
    DependentServiceList : {}
    ServiceId            : 1-ExternalServer-2
    SiteId               : Site:Contoso
    PoolFqdn             : TmpAppPool.contoso.net
    Version              : 5
    Role                 : TrustedApplicationPool

     

    PS C:\> Enable-CsTopology
    PS C:\> Get-CsTrustedApplicationPool


    Identity             : TrustedApplicationPool:CompetellaPool.contoso.net
    Registrar            : Registrar:std01.contoso.net
    FileStore            :
    ThrottleAsServer     : True
    TreatAsAuthenticated : True
    OutboundOnly         : False
    RequiresReplication  : True
    AudioPortStart       :
    AudioPortCount       : 0
    AppSharingPortStart  :
    AppSharingPortCount  : 0
    VideoPortStart       :
    VideoPortCount       : 0
    Applications         : {urn:application:competellapresence, urn:application:agentservice}
    DependentServiceList : {}
    ServiceId            : 1-ExternalServer-1
    SiteId               : Site:Contoso
    PoolFqdn             : CompetellaPool.contoso.net
    Version              : 5
    Role                 : TrustedApplicationPool

    Identity             : TrustedApplicationPool:TmpAppPool.contoso.net
    Registrar            : Registrar:pool01.contoso.net
    FileStore            :
    ThrottleAsServer     : True
    TreatAsAuthenticated : True
    OutboundOnly         : False
    RequiresReplication  : True
    AudioPortStart       :
    AudioPortCount       : 0
    AppSharingPortStart  :
    AppSharingPortCount  : 0
    VideoPortStart       :
    VideoPortCount       : 0
    Applications         : {}
    DependentServiceList : {}
    ServiceId            : 1-ExternalServer-2
    SiteId               : Site:Contoso
    PoolFqdn             : TmpAppPool.contoso.net
    Version              : 5
    Role                 : TrustedApplicationPool

     

    PS C:\> Move-CsApplicationEndpoint -Id sip:CompetellaPresence@contoso.com -TargetApplicationPool TmpAppPool.contoso.net
    Move-CsApplicationEndpoint : The application "urn:application:competellapresence" does not exist on the pool "TmpAppPool.contoso.net". Use Get-CsTrustedApplication to see the available applications or New-CsTrustedApplication to add a new
    one.
    At line:1 char:27
    + Move-CsApplicationEndpoint <<<<  -Id sip:CompetellaPresence@contoso.com -TargetApplicationPool TmpAppPool.contoso.net
        + CategoryInfo          : InvalidOperation: (CN={2c914298-c1...=contoso,DC=net:OCSADApplicationContact) [Move-CsApplicationEndpoint], ManagementException
        + FullyQualifiedErrorId : MoveError,Microsoft.Rtc.Management.AD.Cmdlets.MoveOcsApplicationContactCmdlet
     
    PS C:\> Get-CsApplicationEndpoint -id sip:CompetellaPresence@contoso.com


    Identity               : CN={2c914298-c1c3-440d-ac2c-6942b5681a37},CN=Application Contacts,CN=RTC Service,CN=Services,CN=Configuration,DC=contoso,DC=net
    RegistrarPool          : std01.contoso.net
    HomeServer             : CN=Lc Services,CN=Microsoft,CN=1:5,CN=Pools,CN=RTC Service,CN=Services,CN=Configuration,DC=contoso,DC=net
    OwnerUrn               : urn:application:competellapresence
    SipAddress             : sip:CompetellaPresence@contoso.com
    DisplayName            : Competella Presence Collector
    DisplayNumber          :
    LineURI                :
    PrimaryLanguage        : 0
    SecondaryLanguages     : {}
    EnterpriseVoiceEnabled : True
    Enabled                : True

     

    PS C:\> Get-CsTrustedApplicationPool -id TmpAppPool.contoso.net


    Identity             : TrustedApplicationPool:TmpAppPool.contoso.net
    Registrar            : Registrar:pool01.contoso.net
    FileStore            :
    ThrottleAsServer     : True
    TreatAsAuthenticated : True
    OutboundOnly         : False
    RequiresReplication  : True
    AudioPortStart       :
    AudioPortCount       : 0
    AppSharingPortStart  :
    AppSharingPortCount  : 0
    VideoPortStart       :
    VideoPortCount       : 0
    Applications         : {}
    DependentServiceList : {}
    ServiceId            : 1-ExternalServer-2
    SiteId               : Site:Contoso
    PoolFqdn             : TmpAppPool.contoso.net
    Version              : 5
    Role                 : TrustedApplicationPool

     

    PS C:\> Stop-Transcript
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  • Thursday, June 28, 2012 7:55 PM
     
     
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    Did you find the solution?  I have exactly the same problem.

    Thank you.

     
  • Thursday, June 28, 2012 8:53 PM
     
     
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    No, I hoping on an answer from the developer
     
  • Thursday, June 28, 2012 8:55 PM
     
     
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    Actually, I was able to do what I needed.

    I deleted the pool and created the new one.  Worked without any issues.

    Thank you.

     
  • Friday, June 29, 2012 4:59 PM
     
     
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    What about the Trusted Applications and Trusted Application Endpoints, they just use the new pool, if the name is the same?
     
  • Friday, June 29, 2012 5:27 PM
     
     
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    I did not touch anything else.  Just deleted the pool and created another one with the same name.

    Thank you.

     
  • Saturday, June 30, 2012 8:28 PM
     
     
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    Here is what i get

    PS C:\> Get-CsTrustedApplicationPool

    Identity             : TrustedApplicationPool:CompetellaPool.contoso.net
    Registrar            : Registrar:std01.contoso.net
    FileStore            :
    ThrottleAsServer     : True
    TreatAsAuthenticated : True
    OutboundOnly         : False
    RequiresReplication  : True
    AudioPortStart       :
    AudioPortCount       : 0
    AppSharingPortStart  :
    AppSharingPortCount  : 0
    VideoPortStart       :
    VideoPortCount       : 0
    Applications         : {urn:application:competellapresence, urn:application:age
                           ntservice}
    DependentServiceList : {}
    ServiceId            : 1-ExternalServer-1
    SiteId               : Site:Contoso
    PoolFqdn             : CompetellaPool.contoso.net
    Version              : 5
    Role                 : TrustedApplicationPool

     

    PS C:\> Get-CsTrustedApplicationPool | Remove-CsTrustedApplicationPool

    The trusted application pool "CompetellaPool.contoso.net" currently has one or
    more contacts assigned to it that will be deleted.
    Contacts exist for the trusted application pool.
    [Y] Yes  [N] No  [S] Suspend  [?] Help (default is "Y"): y

    One or more application or external servers have been deleted.
    When you delete an application or external server, you delete all configuration
     state for the hosted applications.  Do you want to continue?
    [Y] Yes  [A] Yes to All  [N] No  [L] No to All  [S] Suspend  [?] Help
    (default is "Y"):y

    Did you have any Application in the Pool you deleted?

     
  • Sunday, July 01, 2012 2:23 PM
     
     
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    This was the pool for our Lync OWA Access, so yes, there was an Application in the back.

    Thank you.

     
  • Thursday, August 09, 2012 2:42 AM
     
     
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    I also am having the same issue.  When you delete the application pool, publish topology, then recreate an application pool with the same name, add the application servers, publish topology...

    That is all you had to do? 

    Changing the registrar for AppPool.contoso.net will orphan the application endpoints associated with it. The application will no longer be
    usable until the application endpoints are moved to the new registrar using Move-CsApplicationEndpoint with -Force specified.
    This operation will orphan application endpoints.

     Thats a pretty scary statement right there.

     
  • Thursday, August 09, 2012 6:52 AM
     
     
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    If you use any PS command in Lync with -force you will lost data!

    regards Holger Technical Specialist UC