MOSS 'SQL' license questionHi,<br/><br/>If I have a SQL Server - 1 Processor - license.  Does this mean that my MOSS intranet users do not need a SQL CAL.  <br/><br/>I know there is a SQL Server license...however I see there is also a more expensive one for SQL Server I processor.<br/><br/>NB I understand that I also need moss CAL for every user...this question is particularly about sql server for moss.<br/><br/>Thanks...© 2009 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.Wed, 15 Jul 2009 09:07:23 Z3f5d2280-7acd-48d5-9aff-a6955375818ahttp://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/sharepointgeneral/thread/3f5d2280-7acd-48d5-9aff-a6955375818a#3f5d2280-7acd-48d5-9aff-a6955375818ahttp://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/sharepointgeneral/thread/3f5d2280-7acd-48d5-9aff-a6955375818a#3f5d2280-7acd-48d5-9aff-a6955375818aIreland75http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Profile/en-US/?user=Ireland75MOSS 'SQL' license questionHi,<br/><br/>If I have a SQL Server - 1 Processor - license.  Does this mean that my MOSS intranet users do not need a SQL CAL.  <br/><br/>I know there is a SQL Server license...however I see there is also a more expensive one for SQL Server I processor.<br/><br/>NB I understand that I also need moss CAL for every user...this question is particularly about sql server for moss.<br/><br/>Thanks...Fri, 03 Jul 2009 14:02:53 Z2009-07-03T14:02:53Zhttp://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/sharepointgeneral/thread/3f5d2280-7acd-48d5-9aff-a6955375818a#1102cef0-62c9-4fae-92f7-62bfca43c1bahttp://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/sharepointgeneral/thread/3f5d2280-7acd-48d5-9aff-a6955375818a#1102cef0-62c9-4fae-92f7-62bfca43c1baDave Hunterhttp://social.technet.microsoft.com/Profile/en-US/?user=Dave%20HunterMOSS 'SQL' license questionWhen you use SQL for MOSS you typically license it on a server level per processor, in which case User's don't need a CAL for SQL.  Quad proc server's are best as I believe they are still counted as one processor. <hr class=sig> My SharePoint Blog - <a href="http://www.davehunter.co.uk/blog">http://www.davehunter.co.uk/blog</a>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 14:20:06 Z2009-07-03T15:08:18Zhttp://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/sharepointgeneral/thread/3f5d2280-7acd-48d5-9aff-a6955375818a#8c7d21ab-1eea-426f-833d-6d02a56efe07http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/sharepointgeneral/thread/3f5d2280-7acd-48d5-9aff-a6955375818a#8c7d21ab-1eea-426f-833d-6d02a56efe07Mike Walsh MVPhttp://social.technet.microsoft.com/Profile/en-US/?user=Mike%20Walsh%20MVPMOSS 'SQL' license question&gt; When you use SQL for MOSS you need to license it per processor.  User's don't need a CAL for SQL. <br/><br/>I wonder if this is strictly true.<br/><br/>Yes: if you have a per processor license you don't need CALs.<br/><br/>BUT is there really a compulsion that connects MOSS usage to *requiring* per processor licensing.<br/><br/><br/>As far as I am aware what is required is <span style="text-decoration:underline">appropriate</span> licensing for SQL Server 200x which for instance imo could also mean that you could have SQL Server + SQL Server CALs for every user of the SharePoint system that uses that SQL Server system. (If you know of a MS URL (or MS text extract) that proves me wrong, please add it to this thread!) <hr class=sig> WSS FAQ sites: <a href="http://wssv2faq.mindsharp.com">http://wssv2faq.mindsharp.com</a> and <a href="http://wssv3faq.mindsharp.com">http://wssv3faq.mindsharp.com</a> <br/>Total list of WSS 3.0 / MOSS 2007 Books (including foreign language) <a href="http://wssv3faq.mindsharp.com/Lists/v3 WSS FAQ/V Books.aspx">http://wssv3faq.mindsharp.com/Lists/v3%20WSS%20FAQ/V%20Books.aspx</a>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 14:48:51 Z2009-07-03T14:50:39Zhttp://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/sharepointgeneral/thread/3f5d2280-7acd-48d5-9aff-a6955375818a#99b507d0-3aa6-43b5-9948-96bad2859d8ehttp://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/sharepointgeneral/thread/3f5d2280-7acd-48d5-9aff-a6955375818a#99b507d0-3aa6-43b5-9948-96bad2859d8eDave Hunterhttp://social.technet.microsoft.com/Profile/en-US/?user=Dave%20HunterMOSS 'SQL' license questionFrom my understanding server products like MCMS and SharePoint run under a system account, because of this individual users don't need direct database access and therefore don't need CALs.  I would speak to your Microsoft Account Manager or MS Reseller as they are experienced in answering questions like these.<hr class="sig">My SharePoint Blog - <a href="http://www.davehunter.co.uk/blog">http://www.davehunter.co.uk/blog</a>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 14:56:56 Z2009-07-03T14:56:56Zhttp://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/sharepointgeneral/thread/3f5d2280-7acd-48d5-9aff-a6955375818a#984b087b-6b6c-4ffc-acb9-0a024cb36041http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/sharepointgeneral/thread/3f5d2280-7acd-48d5-9aff-a6955375818a#984b087b-6b6c-4ffc-acb9-0a024cb36041Mike Walsh MVPhttp://social.technet.microsoft.com/Profile/en-US/?user=Mike%20Walsh%20MVPMOSS 'SQL' license questionNote that I was comparing product+CALS licensing to per processor licensing.<br/><br/>To my mind both are options. Your original post said per processor licesing was compulsary for MOSS - i.e. there was a direct relationship between MOSS and per processor licensing.<br/><br/>I am saying that SQL Server licensing requirements would also be satisfied with a license type that was product+CALs and then in that case it would mean that<br/>there would need to be a SQL Server CAL bought for every user who accesses the SharePoint system.<br/><br/><br/>In most cases SQL Server per processor licensing would be the best option but you wrote that it was the only option and that was what I was querying.<br/><br/><br/>&gt;I would speak to your Microsoft Account Manager or MS Reseller as they are experienced in answering questions like these.<br/><br/>This is always the case although I would replace &quot;Microsoft Account Manager&quot; with &quot;Microsoft Licensing Specialist&quot; as probably usually the Account Manager is only the middle-man<br/><br/><br/> <hr class=sig> WSS FAQ sites: <a href="http://wssv2faq.mindsharp.com">http://wssv2faq.mindsharp.com</a> and <a href="http://wssv3faq.mindsharp.com">http://wssv3faq.mindsharp.com</a> <br/>Total list of WSS 3.0 / MOSS 2007 Books (including foreign language) <a href="http://wssv3faq.mindsharp.com/Lists/v3 WSS FAQ/V Books.aspx">http://wssv3faq.mindsharp.com/Lists/v3%20WSS%20FAQ/V%20Books.aspx</a>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 15:05:15 Z2009-07-03T15:06:12Zhttp://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/sharepointgeneral/thread/3f5d2280-7acd-48d5-9aff-a6955375818a#2c661b58-10c4-4d64-81cd-a093f0661ec7http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/sharepointgeneral/thread/3f5d2280-7acd-48d5-9aff-a6955375818a#2c661b58-10c4-4d64-81cd-a093f0661ec7Dave Hunterhttp://social.technet.microsoft.com/Profile/en-US/?user=Dave%20HunterMOSS 'SQL' license questionThanks Mike, amended my reply above.<hr class="sig">My SharePoint Blog - <a href="http://www.davehunter.co.uk/blog">http://www.davehunter.co.uk/blog</a>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 15:10:50 Z2009-07-03T15:10:50Zhttp://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/sharepointgeneral/thread/3f5d2280-7acd-48d5-9aff-a6955375818a#084a6dd3-59e6-4ada-9613-386421d06d79http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/sharepointgeneral/thread/3f5d2280-7acd-48d5-9aff-a6955375818a#084a6dd3-59e6-4ada-9613-386421d06d79Dan Usherhttp://social.technet.microsoft.com/Profile/en-US/?user=Dan%20UsherMOSS 'SQL' license questionIreland,<br/><br/>If you're using a socket/processor license, then you do not need SQL CALs for your end users.<br/><br/>If you're using a multi-core processor, it's still counted as a single processor.  If you're using a dual processor system however, you would require two processor licenses - unless you want to have one processor's affinity tied to the underlying Windows OS and the other tied to the SQL instance.<br/><br/>In terms of SQL CALs vice processor CALs, completely depends on the situation.  With large organizations you may benefit from a processor license where as in smaller organizations you may have a better cost benefit ratio with user or device CALs.<br/><br/>HTH!<hr class="sig">http://www.spdan.comSat, 04 Jul 2009 02:41:54 Z2009-07-04T02:41:54Z