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Tue, 20 Jan 2009 13:38:04 Z

I'm running a triple-monitor setup on Win7 x64. Primary card is NVidia Quadro FX 1400 dual DVI output PCI Express x16 and secondary card is GeForce FX 5200 PCI with a single DVI output.

When the displays go dark for a UAC prompt, they should return to normal after the prompt is acknowledged. However, the display connected to the secondary card stays completely black, but the pointer will still display normally when moved to that display. Simply clicking on the black area will cause the background to reappear as normal.

I have also experienced the same issue after interrupting the screen saver.

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Tue, 05 May 2009 14:03:36 Z

1) Microsoft Money Plus 2008 Deluxe refuses to activate in Windows 7 RC if the user account does not have administrative privileges.

2) There is no UAC pop-up requesting administrator privileges.

3) The error message offers no clue about the need for administrator privileges. It just says to check the activation code and the Internet connection.

The problem can be worked around by temporarily granting administrator privileges to the user account, and then activating Money Plus.

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Fri, 15 May 2009 11:49:25 Z

Only way I can play internet radio via media centre now is to start it in media player, save the playlist with that radio and then start that playlist in media centre. Works 90% of the time. Can we have internet radio tab under radios in MC? Some most popular radios and a http line so we can start our own radio.

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Fri, 15 May 2009 13:19:24 Z

We Have Media Player, Media Center and Zune. For Zune Software and media center, Most of the things there can be on Windowsmedia.com and the rest can be built into windows media player. There are too many media apps to be able to do everything. I am sure we could buy songs online in media player from the zune web site as well as get to internet tv and so on.

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Fri, 15 May 2009 13:29:15 Z

I am very dissapointed that Media Center does not fully support Aero Snap. It is one of those applications that many people use on dual screen set ups or split screen setups.

I often want to watch TV full screen on one monitor and work on the other one. But full screen means the mouse is captured by Media Center so you can't work on the other screen.

Now this issue has been reported since Vista and yet Microsoft have not decided to change it for Windows 7! Very dissapointing given all the hype about Aero Snap and the fluent user interface.

It is also annoying that the mute audio button in media center mutes every single other application too. It should only mute Media Center! Again dissapointing.

elyoh

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Fri, 15 May 2009 18:32:22 Z

two major problems:

1/I have moved my library paths for photos video and music to my D:\Media\xxxx directory (where xxx is the type), and removed the default path for the %profile%\Music and such. However when I connect my digital camera and import the photos, they still go to the C drive, and I have to move them manually (worse still, some of them have strange permissions which means I can't delete from the original location).

2/ On several occations I have noticed "web urls" in the address bar for my imported media, by web URLS, I mean spaces seperated by %13 etc.....

Hopefuly these are known issues already, and are on the fix list for final. Everything else is working VERY well, even on my very underpowered netbook (HP2133 with 2GB of RAM).

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Fri, 15 May 2009 19:39:34 Z

Good idea! I'd like it to be easy as WinAmp is for this...

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Fri, 15 May 2009 20:15:01 Z

I know when I am home I watch a movie a day but that is what 100 min average rest of that time it is winamp with internet radio, even when I play my xx3. Having that in MCE would allow to control it with remote, save the best stations. Ahh it just would be great.

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Mon, 18 May 2009 10:32:12 Z

the option for invert color isn't present in the new msphaint, plese is very importat for me
thanks

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Mon, 18 May 2009 12:12:23 Z

Media player does not recognize the other codecs. So not possible to play some sound.
Other codes should be written on the inside.

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Mon, 18 May 2009 13:47:34 Z

Can you give some examples of "other codecs"?

I have used Xvid/Divx with MP3/AC3 and H264 with AAC without issues. I've actually been VERY happy with W7 and WP12 as far as video/audio support.

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Tue, 19 May 2009 02:27:12 Z

So, they added some new games to the Microsoft list, but got rid of Texas Hold'em?...
is there a way to get this little extra on Windows 7?

In God I trust!

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Sat, 23 May 2009 18:28:01 Z

In several this forum's threads (most notably the "Win 7 RC Comments pt. 1/2/3") a lot of people have been asking for this menu, which used to be accessible via Right-Clicking on the taskbar icon, but now that results in the Jump List:

First of all I want to explain that this menu does exist in Windows 7, as you can clearly see in the above screenshot. You can open it via Shift+Right Click on the taskbar icon.

But that's all I wanted to say, so here goes.

This menu has existed since Windows 95, as has been one other feature:

Click on a taskbar item to focus on that window
Click again to minimize that window

And before anything says anything, this takes exactly the same amount of clicks as using the pictured menu in Windows-pre-7 (that's 2), and less effort (no need to move the mouse). And yes, I know this lacks the maximize feature.

And Close can be achieved both via Jump Lists and Live Thumbnails .

So where's the problem?

Regards, Kristaps.

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Sun, 24 May 2009 18:46:51 Z

Can we start a petition to remove WLAN Autoconfig from Windows 7 and go back to separating the Wireless Network services like XP? Please?

I don't see why nothing is being done about one of the more serious complaints and annoyances reported by users of Vista. The "optimization" feature (that causes huge lag spikes in online gaming) should be able to be successfully disabled if not split into a completely serparate service, which can be disabled. I know this doesn't affect everyone nor every piece of hardware, but it really hurts a ton of people who want to play online games with a wireless connection.

I do not see a suggestions forum, but trust me, I have sent feedback on this every time I got extremely frustrated trying to play online. Please feel free to move this post to another forum if one is better suited for this type of post.

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Tue, 26 May 2009 00:18:50 Z

I've been trying to get my W7 RC x64 (clean install) to connect to my Cisco 3000 concentrator at work. I found that Cisco STILL refuses to make a 64bit VPN client! #$%^ers! I finally found a client that supposedly would work under 64bit W7. it's called NCP something-or-other (www.ncp-e.com). Installed beautifully, but I could seem to get it to actually connect to anything... Bummer... Decided to uninstall it and try just setting up a good ol pptp connection using the W7 native VPN capabilities...

Not sure if it's something on my system (maybe that Citrix DNE update from my attempt at the Cisco client), or what, but if I try to establish the connection, I get the "Verifying username and password" dialog indefinately. The networking tray icon shows the swirling blue circle, as if it's attempting to connect. I've waited 10 minutes and still nothing changes, so I click Cancel on the dialog box. It goes away, but the swirling circle remains until I reboot the system.

Any ideas?

Hey Microsoft! If a company abandons their client, can you then take their abilities and incorporate them directly without having to license? Cisco has abandoned all 64bit people (I don't count that Connect Anywhere or AnyConnect bull$%!@)? Please give us a NATIVE Windows 7 64bit client that will, maybe, read in Cisco .pcf files and configure itself to use IPSec and all that! It's about time you used your real power to free your people from Cisco's tyrany!

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Fri, 29 May 2009 13:46:27 Z

Installed Win7, NIC shows local access but no internet access,
I have a DHCP router with DSL ISP, all in a workgroup home environment, my other XP clients work fine,
if I try to setup the network connection and select internet, only get 2 choices, pppoe or dialup, my pppoe resides on the dsl modem and don't need to setup on pc,
I did try setting it on the pc, however it did not help.
Joe

What the...., came home, turn it on and it now works, you have some issues on this win ver,

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Thu, 11 Jun 2009 20:50:28 Z

Hey Guy,s I have a problem when I trying to pair my dell bh200 bluetooth headset makes it perfectly but when I look for it, is not listed in playback devices, I like Windows 7 and use a dell xps 420 with the dell wireless 355c bluetooth 2.0 + EDR module and I also use bluetooth keyboard and mouse. I try everything to fix the problem (Broadcom driver for win 7, dell drivers, even win vista drivers) but nothing works. Now a few days ago the bluetooth thing started with a new problem now I can't transfer photos and music from my pc to any phone and vice versa, which is so annoying and disappointed. Now tired of trying everything I have decided go back to Visa and It Works great!!! I hope Microsoft is aware of this irritating problem cuse I really want to use Windows 7.

I apologize for my English I am not very good on it.

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Fri, 19 Jun 2009 08:53:41 Z

I agree 100%. I am so used to 15 years to right clicking and quickly clicking Close, Maximize or Minimize. Either we should be given a choice to revert to this menu without using Shift or put Minimize and Maximize in the jump list. Like this: http://rapidshare.com/files/236280672/Maximize_Jump_List.png.html

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Fri, 19 Jun 2009 11:36:44 Z

How about adding min/max to the jump list, but keeping it in one row? Like this:

These buttons would work on all that app's windows, and for individual windows there's always right-click on the thumbnail.

Regards,
Kristaps.

P.S.: Epic shoop is epic.

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Fri, 19 Jun 2009 15:56:11 Z

One of the cool features of Windows 7, is the way it organizes all open windows by the application that opened those windows. Very nice!

So, what you are looking for is there, they have just moved it under each application for the group of files that are opened.

Now, something that I would like to do, but have not been able to figure out is how do I view say two documents opened by MS Word and just these two, side by side?

A right click on the task bar gives you the option to view windows side by side and I am aware of this, but this feature applies the logic to all open windows by all applications.

I would love to see this feature to be added to the right click menu for each application, where currently we have 'close window' and 'pin this program to task bar', etc. so it would be nice to have 'view windows side by side' and 'cascase windows' added to this sub-menu.

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Tue, 23 Jun 2009 21:07:35 Z

<Continuation of long thread Have Comments about Windows 7 RC (Part 4)>

To all forum users:

Please use this thread to note any comments that you have about Windows 7 Release Candidate (RC). Do not use this thread for any specific question or issue that you are having - just for comments or feedback. For questions/issues that require an answer, create a new thread.

Thanks

-Tony Mann

Windows Client IT Pro Audience Manager for Web Forums, Windows Client Forum Owner

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Wed, 24 Jun 2009 00:44:22 Z

Hello - I am using Windows 7 RC on two machines, a desktop and a laptop. Each have Pentium D dual core processors and 2gb of RAM.

Here are the issues I am having ;

- Media Center in Windows 7 crashes, BSODS. I download a free DVD player and it works flawlessly.

- Media Center when you right click, you get this stupid ribbon ____. In Vista, you right click and you get a menu with options to Eject, Title Menu or Root Menu. Windows 7 Media Center when you right click you have to scroll all the way to the end of this freaking ribbon to get those option. This sucks.

- Windows 7 VPN - SUCKS!. I take my laptop out to other sites and have all sorts of connectivity problems with the VPN. Constantly disconnects and won't reconnect. My Windows XP laptop works fine on other sites. Windows 7 VPN will work fine if I'm connected to my network, then whats the freaking point, I'm behind a firewall. I need a reliable VPN when I'm out on remote sites. Thank God for Windows XP's VPN reliability.

- Media Center. You put in a DVD and there is no default settings in Windows 7 to say Media Center is the default player when a DVD is put into the drive. Don't give me directions to control panel to make those changes, I have done all that plus used the wizard to setup the default player and my two options is Media Player (great for music, not movies) and the free DVD player I downloaded so I can watch movies with a media player that works. No settings in Windows 7 to set Media Center as default player for DVD's, not an option in the drop down menu.

- Network Printers. That wizard is still a joke. Vista and Windows 7 will not find any of my 4 network print servers automatically. You run the freaking wizard and it tells you there is nothing there. I manually put in the IP address and guess what, it finds it. Get rid of the wizard, save some code and speed if it won't work.

- Windows 7 still slow and sucking up a lot of resources. I read where people are running it on P3 processors with 512mb of RAM or 1gb or RAM......Don't Believe That At All.

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Wed, 24 Jun 2009 02:07:32 Z

Vietnamese collation still not correct
please

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Wed, 24 Jun 2009 08:07:13 Z

Some survey of aged systems with Windows 7 running can be found on: http://blogs.msdn.com/ukschools/archive/2009/06/08/what-does-windows-7-run-on.aspx. You can also look on my signature, that system runs surprisingly well, too. But the freedom of belief is a constitutional right in most countries, today.

Mobile AMD64 3000+, VIA Apollo K8T800 chipset, 1 G RAM, ATIRadeonMobility 9700, 20x DVDRW, C:XPSP3 (55G),D:WIN7 (25G),F:DATA (250G)

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Wed, 24 Jun 2009 12:54:50 Z

WMP will still download folder art even after unchecking the option to retrieve information from the internet. My folders get filled with folder jpgs.

Also, I have embedded cover art in all my mp3s but WMP doesn't recognize any of them

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Wed, 24 Jun 2009 13:50:25 Z

Hi thanks for reading my post.

Normally when you share a folder in windows it it changes the icon so you can tell its shared.

Windows 7 isnt doing this.

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Wed, 24 Jun 2009 16:08:41 Z

1. In XP and Vista I could right-click on a taskbar program, press the C key, and the program would close. Now its right-click, hit C (several times if the program had recent files that started with "C"), and then press <Enter> to do the same thing. Gets annoying when I try to close 20+ windows.

2. Vertical taskbars are still not done well, but its getting much better than XP or Vista. The clock takes 3 lines when it could fit everything on 1.

3. There should be a setting to allow the display of seconds in the taskbar clock, or even better, the ability to enter custom time format string for power users.

Finally, thank you Windows 7 developers for adjusting the list view in Windows Exporer to allow for column widths that adjust for content, and dont just use the width of the widest column. This has been needed for a long time.

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Wed, 24 Jun 2009 19:18:26 Z

Finally, thank you Windows 7 developers for adjusting the list view in Windows Exporer to allow for column widths that adjust for content, and dont just use the width of the widest column. This has been needed for a long time.

Really, this is a very good new feature, thanks, dev. team.

But, about the list view, I would like to remind about a new behaviour that is not good at all: The "moving columns" when a file name is not able to show itself fully.
For me, it can even be classified as a bug, and the steps to reproduce it are:

Open any folder in windows explorer and use the "List" view. Now, go to the far right column and select one file. IF the last column visible have one file name that is near the end of the window, or if the name of one file in that column don´t fit the window, then, when you select it, explorer move it "automagicaly" maybe to let you "see better" the file name.
BUT, it´s really annoying, because:
1) You can SEE the file. You click the file and suddenly all the columns change and the one that was right under your mouse now is not the one that was under your mouse. It is now in the left of your mouse, and the next column in the right, that you was not even seeing (and maybe have nothing you wanted, because you don´t clicked it) is now under the mouse.

2) It´s impossible to do a double click in a file like this (one that is in the last right column in the list view, the same column that will move by itself when you select the file) before the column moves. Even if you try to double click real fast, you end clicking another file, because when you do the first click, the column already moved, the file you wanted is not under your mouse pointer anymore, and the secound click (just a milisecound was passed here) will end in another file.

I hope I made myself clear. It´s a issue much easyer to see in windows explorer than to explain in words, I think. Try it out and see, please.

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Wed, 24 Jun 2009 19:54:31 Z

fanfarenj says:
DrGerry-
How did you manage to "overwhelm" the registry in two months of RC availablity?

Two months? I'm using W7 since several months. RC haven't changed the rgistry. Anyway, I installed and deinstalled a lot of programs (we are beta testers, dont you?) and W7 is going slower and if you search the registry you can see a lot of garbage.

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Wed, 24 Jun 2009 20:26:01 Z

It's not even a problem of two months. I've installed the Beta on a virtual drive, run the RC from a real, separate drive = not containing any rests from the Beta, and the responsiveness goes down with every install/uninstall. The two months aren't over, if you count a bit.

Gracias teniente, by the way.

Mobile AMD64 3000+, VIA Apollo K8T800 chipset, 1 G RAM, ATIRadeonMobility 9700, 20x DVDRW, C:XPSP3 (55G),D:WIN7 (25G),F:DATA (250G)

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Wed, 24 Jun 2009 20:56:45 Z

Tony,

I have a few general comments on Win 7 RC.

1. Seems more stable and reliable, especially compared to the Vista RC that I also tested when released.
2. Clean installs have gone well, both 32 and 64 bit editions. All hardware recognized and installed, even on an old ratty box that was ready for the recylce bin.
3. Windows Defender has gotten weaker in each build. The software Explorer is gone and we're back to the command line and msconfig to edit startup items. HUGE step backwards!
4. Homegroup doesn't make sense for "typical" home users as it requires Win7 on all machines, which will never happen.
5. Mysterious and unresolved Event ID errors continue. Errors totally inscrutable and rarely any help or explanation to resolve.
6. AV installs continue to want to dominate over the OS -- want to be the default firewall, spyware checker, anti-spam, web link analyzer and so on. I see trouble down the road in the "Action Center", especially with OEM AV-Secuirty Edition bundles.
7. Interface is neither better or worse than say Vista -- just different. Still many annoying quirks -- no classic desktop, no network icon animation, IE 8 x64 does not show the history which was a much touted benefit, and so on. It's like going into the Holliday Inn that you know so well and the furniture has been moved around for unknown benefits.

While I appreciate your request for comments, I think we all know that after a RC release there won't be many changes.

Gib

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Wed, 24 Jun 2009 22:00:08 Z

Mr. Gib,

1. I agree,
2. I agree with some limitations (that are hardware-dependent),
3. I don't know if there is a deterioration, but Windows Defender will be replaced by MSE anyway (Microsoft Security Essentials, formerly known as "Morro") - if you choose to install it -, the disappearance of "Software Explorer" is a mistery for me, too,
4. I agree,
5. I agree,
6. that's not really an OS question,
7. I agree in general (that "no classic desktop, no network icon animation" isn't so important for me), I especially agree to your sentence "It's like going into the Holiday Inn that you know so well and the furniture has been moved around for unknown benefits". The decorators will know the benefits, users are sometimes unable to see the riches given to them.

My best regards.

Mobile AMD64 3000+, VIA Apollo K8T800 chipset, 1 G RAM, ATIRadeonMobility 9700, 20x DVDRW, C:XPSP3 (55G),D:WIN7 (25G),F:DATA (250G)

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Wed, 24 Jun 2009 22:28:00 Z

After spending the day installing Win 7 / 64 and it locking up on reboot, I finally disconnected my other hard drives and tried one more time before reverting to XP. It worked perfectly! aparently there was a conflick with the other drives for some reason but after completing instalation, shutting down and connecting the other drives, everything works properly. So now we are off to the races and I can see it is much faster than anything previous.

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Wed, 24 Jun 2009 22:54:23 Z

It looks like Notepad is a bit buggy when word wrap is turned on. Basically, if a long line of text is already wrapped and you change its length so that the word-wrap point changes, the text file can potentially go all wonky. You could get an extra unnecessary line break in your paragraph, or a segment of a paragraph might disappear altogether. This is purely visual, because saving, closing, and reopening the text file shows the intact text with the correct changes made to it. But it sure gives you a shock to see it happen. Using the 64-bit version.

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Thu, 25 Jun 2009 06:26:47 Z

Hello,

there is a strange bug on pinning executables to the taskbar:

> when the filename contains the word "help" the command "pin to taskbar" has gone in popup menu.
> when the file information contains the word "help" (filename is different) the program can be pinned but loose the pinned state when it's closed

I tested this with build 7100 64bit and 32bit, build 7000 32bit.

Regards,
Michael

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Thu, 25 Jun 2009 12:12:41 Z

I just really want to see Alt+Enter work in the folder pane of Windows Explorer, I'm no programmer, but this one should be relatively easy for the dev team :D
Great work on Windows 7, love it.

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Thu, 25 Jun 2009 12:31:49 Z

Im using Windows 7 now and Im gonna keep it simple and hope someone reads this.

One: I have always wanted to see since 95 is the ability to use media as background on your desktop (example, repeating avi of an ocean scene or waves crashing on the shore). Also have the ability to set volume or mute.

Two: I Swap monitors all the time (different locations). These monitors have different screen sizes and its a hassle to always reposition my icons and Gadgets on the larger resolutions. Just remember the locations in the Registry or some ini file for that specific resolution.

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Thu, 25 Jun 2009 12:48:00 Z

What about Workgroups ? By mistake I've created 2 workgroups in my network (keyboard mistake - typed a different letter ). Normally I should be able to see only my workgroup computers, and just the name for the second one, but not acces. I see nowhere the workgroups names, but just a list including all the computers in both workgroups. So why there is still the posibility to change the workgroup name when it doesn't do it's job ?

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Thu, 25 Jun 2009 12:59:53 Z

I have noticed 2 things with Win 7 coming from XP.

1. Occasionally IE8 will not start. I have it in the Startup list, and on my taskbar, but no matter how often I click the icon, it will not open. Task manager shows it briefly with 180,000 useage, but then it disappears. Gone back to Chrome. No change 4/jul/09

2. iTunes 7 (and 8?-not tested) under XP allowed me to drag a .JPG from the desktop to the "album Art" space in the info window of a song (or group of songs). Under Win7 this no longer works. It simply does not allow it for a song (showing a prohibited cursor). But if you select a group of songs, and click show info, the copy cursor appears when you drag a .JPG to the "album Art" space in the info window, and the .JPG is placed in the window (just as it did under XP). BUT when you now click OK - nothing happens.

UPDATE 4 jul/09: Although drag and drop doesn't work anymore, it appears you can still update album artwork for a single song using a seperate tab in the "info" window , For multiple tunes, by ticking the box next to "artwork" , and then dragging a .jpg to it, you can update multiple songs.

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Thu, 25 Jun 2009 16:32:43 Z

ARG! Can't copy and paste from WORD 2007 into this forum.

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Thu, 25 Jun 2009 18:06:58 Z

Scrolling has been around for a long time and little has been done to make it better. I find it annoying when scrolling up or down a page for it to go up or down one click at a time. I know the hardware is just like any other part of the mouse and doesn't actually have physical 'clicks'. It would be nice to see a feature that you could either have traditional scrolling (with one click per line) or a continuous scroll, like on a clickless mouse or a laptop scroll area so you could scroll in very fine amounts instead of in a jumpy fashon. It would also be nice to be able to control the acceleration and scale of the scroll like any other axis of the mouse. Second issue. I've found that scroll bars can be quite annoying on a touch screen, or any other device when you are dealing with a large amount of information and the scroll bar has to be clicked on exactly. Especially my windows smartphone (non windows 7, but it still applies) It would be nice if the scroll bar would move to where you clicked if the click location wasn't on the bar itself, and if you want to scroll one line at a time, you can click on the arrows at the top or bottom. Third issue. I'm not sure if this is fully application specific or this is a windows global issue, but when you click on a menu, and then hover over a sub menu, and you have "Open submenus when I pause on them with the mouse pointer" unchecked it still opens the sub menu. This is particularly annoying in Photoshop, but again, I'm not sure if Photoshop is programmed in a way to ignore the OS settings. I appreciate the help

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Thu, 25 Jun 2009 18:30:32 Z

It may have been mentioned in one of the previous 4 threads but in case not:

The RC RDP client (6.1.7100) is very laggy from a "feel" standpoint. In my test case the remote clipboard was broken when on the older client it worked fine. It is also, at least for me, prone to random disconnects over a VPN where the older client chugs right on through.

This needs attention before release! Many companies and their IT departments rely on Remote Desktop/Terminal Services for their day to day business!

See Thread Here

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Thu, 25 Jun 2009 18:40:35 Z

Hello, I am just commenting that I have gotten Windows 7 to install and run successfully (and dual-boot) on an HP a1110n system, and it is surprisingly responsive. The basic system specs are

Intel Celeron D Processor 345 (3.06GHz)

256KB of L2 Cache

533MHz FSB

768 MB of PC2700 DDR SDRAM

Graphics Card: Intel 845 Integrated (Max 64MB shared, though has NEVER gone above using 8MB - using 6 MB right now)

160 GB EIDE HD

DVD-RW drive and CD-RW drive

2Wire (Atheros) wireless g USB card

No PCI-E or AGP slots

Windows Experience Index of 1.0 (due to Gaming Graphics), because processor and RAM are at 3.9, and the HD is 5.2. Installing the XP drivers for the graphics raised my Desktop Performance from 1.0 using Standard VGA acceleration to 1.9. Obviously Aero is out of the question (I think the graphics only have HW support for DX 6), but other than that it doesn't seem to choke this machine any more than XP does.

For no gaming being done, and using the machine only occasionally at that, I see no reason why throwing $40 in for a very basic graphics card couldn't keep it viable as a legacy machine while still having the latest security available.

I also have the 64-bit RC on my machine and I am very pleased with it. My WEI went down a little bit but it doesn't feel as sluggish as the Vista install, either the 32-bit or 64-bit. And though that computer isn't top-of-the-line, it is far from being a snail.

Thanks.

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Thu, 25 Jun 2009 18:40:51 Z

In the previous thread (Part 4), I reported the following bug:

      BUG REPORT

      Application: Windows Explorer

      Symptoms: Unable to delete two-level nested folder from Windos Explorer folder pane.

      To reproduce:

      1.   run Windows Explorer
      2.   create the following nested folder structure under Libraries/Documents/My Documents
                 Test
                      Test1
                             Test2
              (so you've got a c:\Users\YourUserName\Documents\Test\Test1\Test2 structure)
      3.   now move back up to the root of the newly created structure at Test in the folder pane
      4.   make sure to expand the Test\Test1\Test2 structure in the folder pane
      5.   now right click and attempt to Delete Test
      6.   bug: after confirming the delete, you get a message "You'll need administrator permission to delete this folder" Test   Date created: <etc>
          of course, administrator rights are not required for this operation, since the user is the owner of the just created folders
          even if you give admin rights to the operation, it will fail (of course)

      Work around: it seems if you remove the Test2 folder in this example, you are able to then delete Test/Test1 and Test just by performing the delete on       Test... something to do with more than 2 levels nested. Strange stuff here -- makes you jump into cmd.exe and do a "rmdir /s Test"

      Note: this is all running as standard user.

      Windows 7 RC, 32-bit, running on HP dv5t with 3GB RAM.

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After further testing, I have determined this is a bug in AVG 8.5's Resident Sheild.
Turning off the Resident Shield in AVG or moving to Microsoft Security Essentials (which is what I've done) makes such problems go away...

// Dean

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Thu, 25 Jun 2009 19:18:53 Z

I use Panda for W7 but I experience the same problem. And before I used avast free and the same.

More: When used W7 Beta I was losing the mpg and mpeg thumbnails and I have no answers. When installed the RC I recover it. Now I lose it again (at first I can see some, now none)

Sometimes when I try to delete a mpg or mpeg file Windows Explorer starts to "discover", waste a lot of time and finalle some times delete it, sometimes no, sometimes gives an error.

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Fri, 26 Jun 2009 02:36:11 Z

First the system specs:

MSI K9N SLi Platinum Socket AM2 Motherboard

AMD Athlon XP 64x2 5200+ 2.6ghz

6 GB DDR2 800mhz Corsair XMS2 Dual Channel

(2) Nvidia GeForce 7600 GS 512MB DDR2 running in SLi

32gb Patriot SSD: for 64-bit W7 and other critical software components

250gb Seagate Barracuda 7200 RPM 16mb Cache 3.0gb/s SATA HDD: for everything else

Ultra 600w X-Connect Power Supply

Thermaltake TR2 Heat Sink

Cooler Master Centurion Black/Blue Case

The initial score for graphics that I had with W7 drivers was a pretty disapointing 4.1 with gaming graphics just in front of it at 4.2

Downloaded the video card drivers from nvidias website http://www.nvidia.com/object/win7_winvista_64bit_186.18_whql.html right there is the link to the drivers for the following cards and GPU's:

"This is a WHQL-certified driver for GeForce 6, 7, 8, 9, 100, and 200-series desktop GPUs and ION GPUs."

My score for graphics increased to a 5.3 and gaming graphics increased to a 4.9

Quite impressive in my opinion simply for downloading a 111MB file. If anyone else hasn't updated their drivers, give it a shot and see if you gain as much as I did.

Also would like to note that W7 runs marvelously on a SSD, haven't had any problems whatsoever. Was running XP x64 before this. Getting XP to run a SSD requires jumping through a few hoops. It was nice to be able to just put the DVD in and let windows do the footwork.

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Fri, 26 Jun 2009 14:51:23 Z

Libraries are cool, but they seem to work "one-way" only... They let you aggregate files, but not separate them.

For example, if I have many folders, all containing only photos, then I can aggregate them all under one Library called Pictures.

However, if I have many folders, each of which contains photos, as well as music and videos, then Libraries will not help me separate them.

What I would like to be able to do is exclude certain file types, say by extension, from specific locations within a Library.

Hope it's clear, thanks for listening...

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Fri, 26 Jun 2009 15:49:20 Z

Some comments about navigation pane.

i would like some customization for navigation pane.

since it's use for 'open file', save file' etc etc.

This is how the original look like:

But i still like the large icons, etc:

So, it would be nicer if the navigation pane can have customized view, drag and drop location shortcuts etc.

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Fri, 26 Jun 2009 16:22:04 Z

In XP I use the keyboard shortcut Windows key, U, and then U or R to shut down or restart the computer. In Windows 7 all this does is search for "uu" or "ur". Please bring back keyboard shortcuts to shut down or restart the computer.

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Fri, 26 Jun 2009 17:21:07 Z

I'm usually a linux user. I hated vista and thought Win7 would be very similar. In other words I expected only to hate it. I have to say though that in the time I have used it I have thought it was brilliant and will most likely buy a copy when it comes out if my one problem with it is sorted. Audio. I have searched and downloaded many, many drivers yet still audio will not work. If I can get this working I will emigrate from linux to Win7, otherwise I will not be moving.

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Fri, 26 Jun 2009 18:18:51 Z

Is imposible to browse tru the list in "Play Mode" of Media Plauyer, they should enable a List like Winamp in other window stick to the WMP Principal window

Something like this!!! :D

And they should add a tiny arrow at the right side to show the list quickly

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Fri, 26 Jun 2009 18:20:18 Z

The live previews does'nt work when the window is minimized :S

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Fri, 26 Jun 2009 18:23:36 Z

elyoh:

If you want the Windows team to hear about your comments and suggestions, post a comment in this thread.

-Nick

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Fri, 26 Jun 2009 18:25:07 Z

imsimsj:

If you want the Windows team to hear about your suggestion, post a comment in this thread.

-Nick

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Fri, 26 Jun 2009 18:31:56 Z

Here's a bug.

If I double-click an image file saved to my desktop, it opens fine in Windows Photo Viewer.

I close that and open the Start menu, and try to open the same file through the "Recent items" menu.

Windows Photo Viewer opens but it just says "Loading..." and never loads the image.

Another user reported this bug in Windows 7 RC and I can confirm it.

-Nick

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Fri, 26 Jun 2009 18:40:05 Z

Ruscik12:

If you want the Windows team to hear about your suggestion, post a comment in this thread.

-Nick

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Fri, 26 Jun 2009 19:05:42 Z

It seems and feels that Windows 7 has quite a bit more "Graphical Depth" than previous editions of Windows, even Windows Vista. But it seems also that it is not being utilized for the OS appearance and feel. When one looks at a beautiful background art, such as a nature scene, they can see this "Graphical Depth" go off into the distance. Why not animate Windows opening and closing in a more "Out of the Box" manner which is unique to Windows 7, such as when opening Internet Explorer or any other program, that it comes up to the front view from far off in the distance in a creative and clever manner? I'm not sure if I am explaining myself correctly, but does anyone understand what I mean and possibly agree?

Creative Developer/Systems Integration & Cooperation Specialist

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Fri, 26 Jun 2009 19:12:43 Z

I haven't had a chance to evaluate the new Windows backup system backup/restore functionality (this functionality is seriously broken in Vista since restoring even to the same hardware/harddrive is not guaranteed to work -- making it downright dangerous) but I've been using the file backup and have a few issues:

1. I notice that backup will only be available in the Pro version, but NOT in the Home Premium version. I can't imagine what the thinking behind this is! Differentiating by domain joining certainly makes sense, bitlocker, not as much, but ok. But data backup is one of the most important things that EVERYONE should be doing, and precious few (at least at the consumer level) actually do. And those that do tend not to have a comprehensive backup strategy, but rather do manual, and very sporadic, backups, ensuring that when disaster strikes, at best they'll have a really copy of their data.

Putting a decent, easy to use, highly visible backup tool into consumer hands is one of the most useful things Microsoft could do and the decision not to make it standard insures this will not happen. I've had the opportunity to play with Mac OS X at work and my overall impression has been, "I don't get what the big deal is.". There have only been a few things I've encountered in OS X that really stood out as exceptional and completely missing from windows. One of those is Time Machine, and it's prominent place in the OS X dock so that users are made aware of its existence. Windows NEEDS a tool like this, and while the Windows backup utility is nowhere near as elegant as Time Machine, it has at least some of the same functionality and is a whole lot better than nothing. I hope Microsoft will reconsider including this in Home Premium. Or at least offer the functionality through something like a Free Windows Live download -- you can even use the opportunity to advertise Windows Home Server for more comprehensive network based backup and sharing.

2. I have a symbolic link to a folder on a different drive. When I go directly to the physical location of that folder (and its files/subfolders) and right click I'll get previous versions stored from both system restore points and file backups. However, if I go to the same location through the symbolic link, Explorer is unable to find any previous versions. Explorer should be smart enough to resolve symbol links to their physical paths and extract the previous version information. I think this is a bug or oversight that should be corrected.

3. When I did a test of restoring the latest file backup, not only did it restore the latest backup, it also restored every version of each file that had multiple version backed up on different dates, as well as restoring files that had been deleted before the most recent backup. I'm not sure if there's any way to specify if you want all versions, deleted files, or just the actual state of a restored folder at the time of the backup being restored, but if there is a way, it's not at all obvious. It's also not clear if restoring all versions is the intended behaviour or a bug. This should be fixed up ro clarified in the UI at least. Also, there's no easy way to explore different versions of a folder at different backup dates. It would be nice if you could browse the backup but then go forward and backwards in time to see changes. Alternatively, if there could be some sort of visual markup - files with previous or future versions could be coloured, files that exist in previous versions but were deleted at the time of the current backup could show up greyed out and with a strikethrough.

4. I've said it before and I'll say it again: incremental system image backups: the best anti-malware protection available is regular backups. If a daily or weekly automated system backup were performed, in the event of an infection, recovery becomes trivial. While system restore has its uses, I wouldn't trust it to recover from a rootkit infection. Without incremental image backup support, daily system backups are going to take up lots and lots of space. This is such a basic feature of backup software I don't see why it's missing here. Especially if you're only going to include backup in the more expensive Windows versions (see point 1).

Thanks.

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Fri, 26 Jun 2009 23:29:56 Z

Windows 7 RC seems like a finished product. It has a nice feel to it and certanly live up to the user centric ideals it's aiming for. It's seems to be as secure as Vista but less noisey and gives you more controll over how alerts are displayed.

Old games seem to work good. I have been playing Diablo II again. 7 like vista properly keeps the 4:3 aspet ratio on my 16:10 wide screen monitor. It runs like a charm. It brings back memories of my old 300MHz AMD K3 Desktop with only 160MB Ram and 40GB HDD, 3Dfx Voodoo 2 (I still have it) not to mention Windows 98. Unfortunately being a sprite based game, playing it on a 2.6ghz Core 2 duo with 4GB Ram and a Geforce 8600GTS makes little difference in performance.

With the right codecs installed, I can watch any video format, Divx, MP4, OGM, MKV, AVI. With it outputted to a second monitor via dual out on my PC or via extender on Xbox 360 which both works great. (note media center only plays Mpeg2, AVI, mp4, dvix, and DVD) all other must be played on Windows Media Player or 3rd party media player.

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Sat, 27 Jun 2009 01:05:46 Z

Seeing all the comments, even name-calling and profanity, reminds me why I switched to Mac 2 years ago and never looked back. New OS upgrades for $39 next month, only one solid. stable OS that works, every time, networks that find everything hooked up to them automatically the first time, routers that actually work, it all just works, and works well.

I downloaded RC 7 and it's pretty, and boots fast, but then there's the driver issues, and the connectivity issues, and the vendor issues, and the multiple versions of Win 7, and ......

If, as one poster here said "... Win 7 is like crack...." well, just say no.

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Sat, 27 Jun 2009 02:15:09 Z

I did the clean install of Win 7 RC just like y'all requested. And the biggest problem from doing that was that I had to install the HP printer driver from scratch.

I ended up having to skip using the install program and just right mouse click the printer on the network to get the printer installed. There seemed to be this vicious circle with the HP install program where it wouldn't accept being installed by Win 7 RC. Even though I was set up to be network admin. It refused to recognize that it was being installed by the network admin.

I'm not sure what doodads and cool features I'm missing by not using the install disk but I've been able to set the color printer to default to black and white printing so that I don't waste color toner. Sooo it's doing what I wanted from a print driver.

I have yet to try to get the scanner on this printer to work. Soo I'll report back when I've had time to test that out.

Basically this is a reminder to y'all to get after HP about coming up with some way to circumvent this glitch. The HP website had no drivers specifically for win 7 yet soo this is probably to be expected.

Thank you for letting me try this OS. I'm enjoying it so far. All other parts of the install went smoothly.

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Sat, 27 Jun 2009 02:17:16 Z

oh yah, when you're using windows flip (win key + tab), the desktop slide show wallpaper transition disappears.
it will just suddenly change the wallpaper. quite an embarrassing mistake rite?
if you don't get what i mean, set your wallpaper to slide show with several pictures, then press and hold win key + tab and wait for wallpaper to change.

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Sat, 27 Jun 2009 03:24:17 Z

Posted this elsewhere but didn't see any response, and it's a significant bug. In previous versions of Windows, the Recyle Bin will warn you if you try to delete more files than can fit in the bin. It'll give the option to cancel the delete command or delete the files permanently. In Windows 7, there are 2 situations in which the Recycle Bin decides to permanently delete files on its own:

1. If you try to delete a large number of files (say, a few thousand small images, not wrapped inside a folder) they will be permanently deleted instead of placed in the Recyle Bin, even if the total filesize is small enough to fit in the Recyle Bin.

2. If you try to delete more files than can fit in the Recycle Bin (in terms of total filesize, not number of files), then Windows will stick as many files as it can in the Recycle Bin, and permanently delete the rest.

In both of these situations, the "are you sure you want to delete?" confirmation dialog that's presented to the user is the one for ordinary delete, not the shift+delete operation. This could be a disasterous bug.

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Sat, 27 Jun 2009 03:33:40 Z

Alt+Tab thumbails should be biger, cuz when I do that, I dont recognize anything, like windows from the same applications (like msn, Word, explorer), and i need a way to close applications when I do that.

And other thing, when I try to peek a NEW window of messenger, or any NEW window than I had no opened, the preview is WRONG

here's an example in windows peek, but is the same thing when I do Alt+Tab or Win+Tab

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Sat, 27 Jun 2009 03:46:07 Z

There's a problem with explorer sinse the Beta

When I am in other windows (ex: media player) and try to drag a file of explorer, does'nt work. This only happen on "Content" view. Try it yourself!!!!

And There's a bug, when I change from Balanced to Power Saver, the UI disable transparency (thats ok) but it changes the color to white-bone, not the one I select before...

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Sat, 27 Jun 2009 03:47:30 Z

In the search of the Start menu, i can't use "Alt" or "Ctrl" for select multi-files.

And in the search I don't see the History of Favorites, and I already take a look at indexed locations and they are added correctly

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Sat, 27 Jun 2009 03:54:57 Z

Ok, there's a big problem of UI, I have a computer with 32MB of video but with good procesor-memory, anyway, it does'nt supports aero. But what I know, is that the "eye-candy" of aero than need the 128MB of video, is the transparency, so, why with 32MB of video I can't change my color??? I really think than I dont need that much of video to do that simple thing, and even worse, when I try to customize the color, here's what i get:
(And this problem is include in Home Basic, Starter, low-video PCs and of course, virtual PCs)

And now, see the difference

I really know than today-computers does'nt down of 256 video, but, Windows 7 is a great improve and it runs with old computers, so, old graphics-cards and scenarios like this, should be fixed.

In other -simple- words, what im asking is to enable this window even if aero is not supported (Without "enable transparency", of course!)

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Sat, 27 Jun 2009 04:52:43 Z

some suggestions about windows media player:

1. can we get the 'player bar' back? (the one we had for wmp 11)

2. add an option 'show in notification'.
it means, when minimized, it'll become an icon in the notification area.
really would love that, it'll allow wmp to play music in the background, while not affecting ur work. (especially in the office)

context menu (or whatever you call that):
it's not working properly.
some programs have an option appear in context menu but it didn't.

I installed: 7zip, and Winmount
when i right click on a file, there should be an option for each of the programs.
7zip -> 'Open file archive'
Winmount ->'Mount to new drive'
(and yes, i did select it to appear in context menu for each of the program)
but, it's not there.

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Sat, 27 Jun 2009 09:03:34 Z

Couldn't find where to report Windows 7 bugs, so I'll post it here. If there's a better place, please let me know.

- Go to the Desktop Background page
- Select a folder of images and press Select All
- Save settings

All of the images will be displayed on the wallpaper.

- Add a new image to the wallpaper folder
- Go to the Desktop Background page
- All of the images (including the new one) are checked
- The new image is not used for the wallpaper

Workaround (it is not enough to just use Select all again):

- Select none
- Select all
- Save settings

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Sat, 27 Jun 2009 13:55:07 Z

I'm finding when I have my N1 desktop card installed and running Windows 7 (RC1) x64 freezes very quickly. Just as soon as I get connected to my wireless network it froze. After the first restart is froze at the welcome screen, next two attempts made it to the desktop but froze immediately afterwards. I'm running all up to date drivers for x64 XP/Vista.

Uninstalled wireless card and plugged in cabled connection - no issues.

I've read about many others having freezing issues, but I seem to have dialed in on a cause - thought this was worth sharing.

System:
Intel Quad Core - Q6600 @2.40GHz
2GB Crucial Ballistix Performance RAM
EVGA Intel 680i MB
EVGA Geforce 8800GTS
WD Caviar 320GB HD x2

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Sat, 27 Jun 2009 15:36:43 Z

I don't really have a question. I just wanted to comment on a couple issues I have been having. First of all, it would be awesome to have a utility installed with the OS to report bugs, but that's just me.

I've been using Windows 7 RC Media Center and really like where things are going. Aesthetically, there is no other PVR software that can even come close. I especially like how I can have the system sleep when nothing is being recorded. I wish I could do that in BeyondTV. But that brings me to my first problem.

After the system comes out of Standby, one of two things always happens. The first few times, the network connection was broken and could not be repaired without rebooting the system. I tried using the OS option to try to repair the connection, powered off the modem, and router, but none worked until the system was rebooted.

Secondly, a few days ago I installed Snapstream's Firefly remote to use with Media Center. The remote works flawlessly until the system goes into Standby. For some reason the IR Reciever goes dead after Standby and just like the network connection, cannot be restored without rebooting. I tried unplugging it and plugging it into different USB ports, but nothing happens. I find this odd because none of the other USB connected devices give me any trouble.

So there appears to be some issues with coming out of Standby.

I also have been using Windows Explorer/My Computer and have experienced sluggishness unlike any other Windows version. I've ran into an issue where I delete something and it doesn't disappear until I refresh the screen. I noticed in the different libraries in Explorer, My Music, My Pictures, etc..., it has become difficult to Copy & Paste from different folders. I kept losing folders after trying to Copy & Paste. They seemed to just disappear, until I found them later in a random sub-folder. It would be much better just to bring back the menu bar. I don't know why MS wants to drop it. It just makes life more difficult.

I was also disappointed when I found I can only have 1 instance of a certain folder open at a time. I like the feature where I can have multiple instances of the My Music folder open when I am rearranging files. Windows 7's Explorer would not allow me to do so.

So far, those are the issues I have had. I just have 1 other nit-pick. The Media Center gadget is bigger than all the other gadgets and that gets a little annoying. That may just be my opinion though. Otherwise, I really like the Landscape desktop theme and how the background changes from time to time. Very nice touch. I noticed a screensaver inside Media Center showing the entire library of photos installed on my system in some sort of 3D spreadsheet. It would zoom in and out on random pictures. When I first saw it I said, "Wow, that's cool!" I'm disappointed that I can't set that as the default screensaver for the OS.

Those are my findings and suggestions. I hope they help in the development of Windows 7.

Eric V

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Sat, 27 Jun 2009 15:40:13 Z

Installed on alternate disk (D:). Creating a new partition on C: drive (under XP Pro x64) proved troublesome. Installed with no problem. All applications have to be reinstalled on D drive under 7RC. When try to read My Documents on C drive system denies me access. (I think this is a good thing.) To transfer files I first copy to Passport back up drive from XP then change to 7RC transfer them into D drive.
So far mp compatibility problems. I've installed Office XP pro, Firefox, Thunderbird ReadIRIS Pro 11, Adobe reader and several smaller utility programs (into the x86 program folder). All run with no problems although I had to install some of them several times.
Only glitch I had was installing drivers for Kodak ESP 7. The Kodak driver disk would finish about 80% of install then stall out. Went to 7's control panel and selected "install printer" and let 7 do all the work. I found what it needed on line, installed it and printer and scanner work fine.

XP Pro x64 runs on a eSATA 300 disk, Win7 RC and an older eide disk yet Win 7RC starts much faster and all of my application (Office, Quicken, etc) load faster and run faster.

I've seen enough to take advantage of the early buy offer of 7 online.

I refused to upgrade to Vista but Win 7 in RC version is really good.

chucks

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Sat, 27 Jun 2009 19:37:02 Z

Eric,

Once you install Windows Live Photo Gallery, it will put in a screensaver that you can use for a slideshow of all your pictures...

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Sat, 27 Jun 2009 23:20:28 Z

Notes on Win7 RC x86

First ran on VM under Vista Ultimate x86, after two weeks of testing, moved to actual machine.

Win7RC x86 has been running in dual-boot config with XP Pro x86 on this hardware:

P4 Prescott 520 (2.8GHz)
AG8 mobo (915P/ICH6R)
3GB DDR/400 (balanced sets)
160GB Seagate Barracudas x2 in RAID 0
X850XT 256MB video card (x16 PCI-E)

Additional hardware is:

External WD USB HD (160GB)
PCI TV Tuner/Capture card
Canon flatbed scanner (CanoScan 3000ex)
Samsung Laser printer (ML-1740)

This particular box was built by me several years ago for XP. It has run XP ever since, and ran it very well. I chose to use it as the live eval box because I could use the Vista box to better monitor the RC. I wiped, re-partitioned and re-formatted the RAID array, creating two partitions of roughly 141GB each. XP was reinstalled clean to D: partition, tweaked back to standard and then Win 7 RC went onto C: partition.

Windows 7 RC completed the install in eighteen minutes FLAT. That is from the boot off the disc to the point where I created the Admin UA. XP took the normal 28-35 minutes for the install, and another fifteen to tweak from the folder I keep on the external HD. I can honestly say that I have never had an OS install that quickly. And Win7RC handles a little faster than XP does on identical equipment.

Of note in the install was that Win7 did NOT ask for the F6 disc for the RAID. That surprised me, as I expected it to ask for the driver. Once I had the admin UA set up, I checked my device manager. Win7 found all the hardware, and except for three cases (printer, scanner and Tuner card) already had working drivers configured for them. It took a little work to get a driver for the scanner and printer to work (ended up using Vista x86 drivers in both cases), and the Tuner card took me two days to find drivers that Win 7 would accept. Everything else was fine. I found that I could use my tweak folder from the external HD to install my usual application list - once I set the permissions, of course. Aside from some driver issues (gee, shades of Vista there), I am very pleased with Win7.

My attempt to use one of the AV clients SUGGESTED by Win7 (I shant name names, but you know who you are, TrendMicro), resulted in me being locked out of my own Admin account. From that point on, I flew without a safety net - and nothing bad has happened. It could be my careful habits or it could be luck; doesn't matter. being locked out of your own admin account pretty much makes AV a moot point, no? And no, I still do not know what exactly happened there. Burned the drive down and re-installed again. Second clean install was just as fast as the first.

I have used Win7 every day for more than a month now, and I have grown fond of many of the features. One thing I am NOT fond of is the custom-coded IE8 for Win7. I LIKE IE8 on XP and Vista. I liked it on Win7, too - until (about a week ago), it got an update from MS and now it does not play with Java, Shockwave or Flash. I can't figure out where the problem is, but it treats any links in Flash or SW as null links (won't even TRY to follow them, nor will it give me any reason for no longer ignoring all Flash/SW link features). Manually forcing the link SOMETIMES works, but not often. Java keeps being hit with access prompts post-update. I have played with all the settings I can find in IE8, Flash/SW and Java, matched the settings against XP and Vista IE8 setting for all four progs, but Win7 still refuses to work with those links. As a test control, I put Firefox 3.011 on the Win7 machine and checked the sites behind IE8. Nearest I can tell, it is some setting either in IE8 for Win7 or in Win7's security that I can't seem to find. And even so, IE8 is usually faster than Firefox.

Hope they fix whatever they broke before they hit GA with Win7...

I have been working primarily with Vista for the last year and half or so, and I can honestly say that I like Win7 much better than Vista. If MS had offered full versions of Ultimate (what I am used to working with now) for a reasonable price, I would have bought three and loaded it on ALL my machines - and used it for future builds, too. But, at the price they want for Ultimate, I won't be changing to Windows 7 for while. Vista and XP will have to remain my main OSs, I guess.

Windows 7 is a distinct improvement on Vista the whole way around. Most noticeable in my situation is how fast it handles large suites like Office 2007 Enterprise (I have been known to have multiple documents open in Word, Excel, Access and Outlook running on two or more boxes during a project). In Vista, that tends to drag the response speed down - expecially when Office is not able to grab all the resources because programs like uTorrent, MP, IE8 and VirtualBox are going full tilt at the same time. In Win7, the usage seems to be far more efficient, as I have had MORE open on the older box and had better response time out of the Win7 than Vista with fewer open programs.

If I had to choose one feature of Windows 7 that I like more than any other, it would be the drive image feature. Restore points are all well and good, but if there is a major failure, you are still screwed, because restore points are OS dependant. Just to be clear, I define major failure as a HD physically failing or a lightening strike taking down the entire box (haven't had that happen to me PERSONALLY, but seen it at work). I first tried the drive image over my home LAN to the Vista machine's HD. It took about 30 mintes to create an image of C: and D: on the Vista HD. I decided to try shuffling some things around, and when I had made enough room on the USB external HD attached to the text box, I tried it again. It only took about twelve minutes to create the image on the USB HD. After that, nightly back-ups of the image take about six minutes to do. Early on, I tested this feature by booting to XP and burning the C: drive down before re-formatting in NTFS. I put in the image recovery disc I created and booted. All I had to do was point the recovery program to the external HD and tell it to recover the drive. Less than a half hour later, it was like nothing had ever happened to the Win7 drive.

I very much like that! Wish I had had that simple of an image recovery option earlier, when I was running Win95, 98SE and ME...

Vista has the option; at least, I noticed that it was there after the SP2 for Vista hit, but I have yet to try it on Vista. Somehow, my experience with that OS leads me to believe it will not be as easy as the test was in Windows 7 RC.

Overall, Windows 7 RC loaded on actual hardware out-performs both XP and Vista - even when running on older hardware. Of the three OS's currently in use by myself, Windows 7 is the fastest booting, shutting down, restarting and log in/log out - and it is by a clearly noticeable margin, too. Generally speaking, it handles apps and tasks faster as well. There are some that favor XP or Vista, but they are few in my useage lists. Aside from small issues, Windows 7 runs all my software without undue labor tweaking or work-around fitting. Resources SEEM to be better managed than in Vista, though when operating in Xp and using Office 2007 Enterprise, XP gets a little CPU and RAM usage happy. I have more than once maxed out CPU and RAM both in XP with Office 2007 Ent and some other apps working it. Under Windows 7, the usage very rarely reaches 100% CPU for more than a half second or so, and generally chuggs along at about 30-45% with apps open and running. RAM utilization (of 3GB total) averages 50% under Windows 7 when apps are open, but if doing something like looking at local .jpg folders, it can drop to less than 10% - something I have never seen out of XP or Vista. And no, I don't know why.

Just for comparision, this is what the Vista x86 box is stuffed with:

C2D E6400 (2.13GHz)
Asus Leonite (945GZ/ICH7)
4GB DDR2/667 (matched pairs)
250GB Samsung x2 in RAID 0
X1650 XT 512MB (x16 PCI-E)

Additional hardware:

Hauppauge TV tuner/capture card (PCI)
12-in-1 Media Card reader

A final thought: after the SP2 for Vista hit, I noticed that the security scheme was nearly idential to Windows 7, with permissions boxes and increased Admin-only funtions and the like. I personally think this is MUCH better than the old Vista UAC scheme (which annoyed the ____ out of me). If they could fix the Vista UAC problem by porting in Windows 7 scheme, why can't they fix the IE8 for Win7 problem by allowing the use of a NON-CUSTOM coded IE8 to work with Windows 7? They say that Win7 has a special IE8 because of special features, but I can't find anything different in my daily use between IE8 for XP, IE8 for Vista and IE8 for Win7; aside from that Adobe issue, of course.

Conclusion: I will be migrating to Windows 7 as soon as I can financially afford to, as the overall count so far is nine and one, good to bad. That's my experience for whatever it is worth.

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Sun, 28 Jun 2009 11:49:57 Z

I find that Windows-Explorer could be improved: You can easily change the arrow on the right side of Organize with the arrow on the right side of Forward (Recently visited pages). The distance between these 2 points is too small or there has to be made some cosmetics to no more change these 2 arrows.

rifo

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Sun, 28 Jun 2009 12:28:47 Z

Hello,

I have my passwords stored in a text-file. I mark the password by double-click and copy it in the application's password-field.

If the password contains ? or % it is not possible to mark the word by double-click. The word is only marked till directly before the %-sign or the last marked character is ?. Also + is not marked and $ is the first marked sign, if it appears in a password.

If I try to mark ab§€cd, then only ab§ or €cd is marked.

Sometimes § is not marked, if it is the last sign, but I could not find out when or when not.

If a word contains a ! it is only marked including the ! or only the signs on the right side of !.

Also I found out that parts of my passwords which contain (){}[] are marked together with these signs, other parts of my password not. Or when I mark these parts, the signs in ()[]{} including these brackets are not marked. This seems to make sense für maths.

But what is the sense behind the other results?

As not everyone who uses a computer, marks formulas or other mathematic things, it might be better to have 2 options for marking words: the "old" one which marked every sign regardless of which one is used, and the "new" one with the "features" that I have found out.

rifo

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Sun, 28 Jun 2009 12:54:36 Z

Several thoughts...

First it would be nice (and as stated by others) if when you click "new folder" on the desktop or elsewhere you got a folder, not a two paned explorer window. I use folders (actually shortcuts to folders on the server) to organize various notes on my desktop. So far I haven't been able to segregate folder view from explorer view…it seems to be one way or the other throughout.

I also use Desktop Sidebar exclusively and although it runs on Vista it does weird things on Win 7. It seems to be the culprit causing some of my icons to scrabble and also prevents the screensaver from running or monitors from shutting down. I have tried Gadgets but frankly, they are very “clunky” and lack all the features of Desktop Sidebar.

I would also like to be able to choose the classic start menu and I would like to see an option to change the wallpaper on login added to those choices already there.

The “documents and settings” folder of XP was so much easier to sort and customize. The Win 7 “Users” folder seems like regression to if there’s a really hard way to do something, Microsoft found it.

Thanks!!

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Sun, 28 Jun 2009 13:28:52 Z

The one pet hate on upgrading windows is incompatability.
there are so many games i can't play on windows 7
even a fresh patch for battlefield 2 won't work but on xp it works (v1.50).
So my question is; why move away from gaming legacy in the first place?
Ever heard the saying: if it isnt broken dont fix it?
for crying out loud 256mb graphics cache is surely enough.
another generation of computer junk coming i think straight to the enviroment.
Geez i still see win 98 pc's thrown out on the curb.
Wait untill the xp ones go. The population expansion is going to mean a huge
landfil problem. and then vista blah blah blah.
Seems we humans are slow to learn.

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Sun, 28 Jun 2009 15:41:24 Z

Hello All

Since this thread is for comments, I would like to make a few!

I have worked in the Computer Industry for over 50 years now and have retired. Over the years I have worked in the areas of software, operations, design and engineering, and all areas in between; mostly in technical support functions. Now I play with my computers and support my friends systems, I also try to play a little Country/Bluegrass on my Bass every once in a while. Bottom line is “I have More Time than Good Since”! Nuff Said!

Let me start off by extending a “Great Big Thank You“ to all of the Users and Moderators in today’s Modern Forums. Forums have become the best place to find answers to your problems. You people give of your time and talents so freely, just for the help and love of the technology. “My Hats Off to All of You”.

It is sad but true; the Technical Support People does not offer solutions to your problems anymore! All they do is “Read the Script” and suggest you “Pay your Money and Upgrade”, that’s probably all their expertise is capable of doing. Sometimes you can get your problem request forwarded on to a knowledgeable technician, but not very often! Case in Point “I used to be a staunch supporter of Symantec/Norton Products, but mainly because of Tech Support – I no longer use or recommend their Products”

The current trend of company’s letting the Common User beta test their new products is GREAT. The quickest way to find the problems in a product is turn it over to the user! I once supported a large mainframe system that ran for 6 years before uncovering an original software bug that reared its ugly head when the conditions were just right, so time and users is the best way to uncover bugs! While we are learning these new techniques, let me offer some comments and suggestions.

The use of self-reporting error tools and programs like the “Windows Feedback Program” are great for the development team to identify problems, but they work behind the seines and the user seldom knows what’s being reported on. Buy the way the “Problem Reporting Link” in the Beta Release build 7000 was a very good way for a user to report a problem and know what was reported on! Now on to the use of Forums – I researched a Serious Hard Drive Corruption problem one of my test systems was experiencing – see my Post Here

This is a serious bug that the Software Development Team needs to be aware of and I couldn’t tell if they had been made aware of this bug in the New Windows 7 RC build 7100 OPS. I know that the Software Development Team can’t issue a Report on the Known Problems! Boy, the Burners would be Turned On and the Flames would be Horrific, but just a little “Boilerplate” with the statement “Problem Noted” would let the Test User know that the reported problem is “In Work” and his “Post was Reviewed” by the Development Team! This action would be a tremendous improvement in the Communications between Product Development and the Tester User reporting in the forums. Now “Get Off Your Soapbox Shorto” – Thanks All and Best Regards - - - Shorto

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Sun, 28 Jun 2009 17:08:53 Z

So moving from Vista to Win 7, lets say i'm a new user. When I put the chip in the chip reader, the Win 7 photo transfer comes up and asks me to import using Windows. It then puts the pictures in the pictures folder, and the videos in the video folder, AND gives you the option to put both the pics and videos in whatever folder you choose.

Another option on the autoplay is to VIEW in Live Photogallery, which then lets you view the pictures, and THEN import them, however, it puts both the pictures AND videos in the pictures folder, with NO option to separate them.

Why are these methods different? It's confusing.

Also, if you have already imported the pictures or videos WITHOUT deleting them from the device, it DOES NOT prompt you to download the existing photos the second time you put the chip in. I can see how this stops redundancy, but it is also confusing because the pictures ARE still on the device.

Am I alone in thinking that MS hearts are in the right place here, but they still need to work on the photo importing in Windows 7?

Jimmy Fallon Computer Assistance www.mainstreetchatham.com

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Sun, 28 Jun 2009 18:07:41 Z

Ok here are the main issues I had with Win7.

-Being able to open files with a program when dropping on taskbar instead of getting pinned - thankfully that was added to RC. I hope it makes it to the final build, I use it all the time, especially to open config files with strange extensions with notepad or opening a video file with a different player from default.

-Also it should be possible to place shortcuts to folders or files straight onto taskbar instead of having them all pinned under a program: one click access instead of right-click, look through list, and then another click is always better. You could just add it as another option if you drag the file with right mouse button.

-Ctrl-A no longer works when renaming a file... most of the time I actually DO want to change the extension, and having to select it manually with a mouse or using a lot of ctrl-shift-right arrow is a big pain

-Smarter behavior when closing a program using its notification area icon (Win7 sometimes thinks the program crashed even though it exited correctly)

-Animated notification area network icon (like two blinking computers in older Windows), very convinient to see the state of the connection

-I can't find a hybernation button anywhere so I can't tell if the computer goes to standby or hybernate after I select Sleep (especially as the screen turns right off)

-It's very annoying how the windows update windows just disappears after you select to install updates, and you have to open it again to view the progress. You should put a checkbox somewhere whether is should do that, like right at the bottom of that window

-After downloading more themes from Microsoft's website, I can't select wallpapers from more than one of them at a time, and the whole point was to be able to cycle through as many as possible. It would be awesome if it also showed wallpapers from the Pictures library with the ability to add more folders (with checkboxes to add them to the theme too).

-An option to change the bootable partition. I kept an old install of XP in case Win7 crashes on me, but after a while I figured I don't need it anymore. I had to spent a couple hours figuring out how to do this by poking here and there, in the end I just deleted boot files from XP partition and ran through several recovery options on Win7 DVD until I got the right one. It's gotta be easier than that, something like right-clicking a partition in Disk Management.

-Some sort of advanced security control center. I see lots of security features that are designed to protect most users, but you should know that there are also expert users that do know what they are doing (and are willing to accept risks when they don't).
For example, I find it ridiculous that I, as an Administrator, cannot even access a folder inside Program Files - there's plenty of times when I need to change a config file, copy a config file, copy some downloaded file that gets stored there, access browser's cache and so on. I tend to need access to Program Files multiple times a day. Not to mention various subfolders under Users. So I had to spend a good couple hours giving myself access to all the folders on the computer by resetting the permissions and granting myself ownership (not even sure that was the best way to do it, but I was impatient) on every single folder (and then some subfolders that didn't inherit it) on the drive.
I also disabled UAC, which tends to be more annoying then helpful.
Driver signing is another security issue that is rather disappointing, as it pretty much blocks a bunch of freeware programs like PeerGuardian that don't have the money (due to being freeware) to pay for driver signing.
There should be a single control center with simple checkboxes where you can turn off all of those things and others like Firewall (which you don't care about if you're behind a corporate-grade firewall), Defender, etc.

As for positive things, I'm gonna be short here after all that typing... I love the interface, I love the sound mixer (I've been wishing for that for years!), I love how fast the system runs. Many excellent features, but some of them just make me go insane at times.

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Sun, 28 Jun 2009 19:29:35 Z

When I 'Save Theme for Sharing', it stores the screensaver in the theme, but not the screen saver's settings. For example, I saved a theme in which I selected the "3D Text" screensaver. When I sent the theme to my mother, the text on her screensaver still said "Windows 7" instead of the text that I wanted her to see (which went with the theme).

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Sun, 28 Jun 2009 20:26:07 Z

Despite the awful problems with Windows Explorer and Internet Explorer 8 (specially), and some networking troubles, I will migrate from XP to Windows 7 without any doubt (I never like Vista).

The only fear I have: please don't do W7 too expensive!

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Mon, 29 Jun 2009 03:13:32 Z

Seeing all the comments, even name-calling and profanity, reminds me why I switched to Mac 2 years ago and never looked back. New OS upgrades for $39 next month, only one solid. stable OS that works, every time, networks that find everything hooked up to them automatically the first time, routers that actually work, it all just works, and works well.

I downloaded RC 7 and it's pretty, and boots fast, but then there's the driver issues, and the connectivity issues, and the vendor issues, and the multiple versions of Win 7, and ......

If, as one poster here said "... Win 7 is like crack...." well, just say no.

Guess you weren't around for the transition from Mac OS9 to OSX when Mac lost many of their users to XP because the transition was easier and they had to buy all new software anyway as OSX didn't do backwards compatability - at all. LOL

lforbes

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Mon, 29 Jun 2009 04:01:32 Z

I have had Windows7 RC as default OS for the last 6 weeks. It has been interesting but same time frustrating..
Things I like are 1) Faster boot 2) better memory management 3) a shut down button which does that and 4) the task bar changes
Things I don’t like are 1) changes made to the location of files for no apparent reason eg my documents are no longer in My Documents they are in the “user” folder. 2) Restrictive control of files and folders eg Cookies and MyDocuments can’t be opened in my “Name” folder.
3) duplication of folder names. eg The start menu documents has some common folders with “My Documents” in user “Name “ folder. There are a lot of smaller inconveniences that I could probably get used to , but I am switching back to XP for the things I cannot live with.
Things I can’t live with , I have mentioned before so I won’t harp on them. Mainly it is not being able to configure my OS the way I want it. 1) The start menu cannot be configured as it could in XP . 2) I can’t put data to be saved eg My Documents in a partition of its own. I played with Tweakui a bit but in the end abandoned it. And 3) Just too hard to navigate and open to files and folders “belonging” to the system and 4) there seems to files and folders everywhere which have the same names but you can open some and not others. Just very unnecessarily complicated. Seems all the effort has gone into making a pretty desktop and not an elegant OS.

Reiterating, if the start menu was made to be easily configured like XP I would buy the new Windows7 when it becomes available. If the start menu stays as it is in Windows7 RC I am sticking with XP. This may sound picky but with 50 odd programmes on my computer I don’t want to wasting time as I now am, running around the start menu to open one.
As background I am in my late 60’s and had every MS operating system since DOS 5 except Vista. So change is always going to be difficult for me, if there are not overwhelming advantages to change. I wish it well and thanks for the help I have had.

busso

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Mon, 29 Jun 2009 04:23:52 Z

First of all, I already like Win7 better than Vista. It works better with my TV Tuner (needing QAM), my high def camcorder, my photos, etc.

However, this doesn't mean that I'm without gripes:
1. I can play high-def .mp4 videos from my camcorder in Windows Media Player without a hitch. ...But when I play them in Media Center, the video plays slower than the audio, and within seconds my audio and video don't line up. The longer I watch the video, the further out-of-sync the two get. Shouldn't they be accessing the same codec?
2. I can play these same .mp4 files (which is GREAT - don't get me wrong), but I can't edit them in Movie Maker or create a DVD from them in DVD Maker? That's somewhat appalling that the two don't even recognize the format...
3. There doesn't seem to be any consistency to the settings for importing video and pictures. If I connect my camera (and select "Import pictures and videos using Windows") I can edit the settings for "Cameras and Portable Devices", to specify where I want different file types to import to. ...But when I use Windows Live Photo Gallery and select 'File > Options' and select the 'Import' subtab, everything looks identical to the "Windows version" yet I can specify different folders for "Cameras", "Video Cameras", and other selections. This is a confusing problem when I want the videos taken from my little point-and-shoot camera to go to the 'Pictures' folder and I want the videos taken on my high-def camcorder to go to the 'Videos' folder.
4. Without having new pictures/videos on the plugged-in device, there's nowhere in Windows that you can set the options in #3 above (but you can for the Photo Gallery). You have to have a new picture/video on the device and then plug it in, which you can then selec the "Import Options" link.

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Mon, 29 Jun 2009 06:08:06 Z

Seems the reistry will always fill with garbage lol.
Perhaps if microsoft did a quality assurance system to pull in line software authors
to clean their garbage.
People would deftinately go for programs that are ehical about registry use and an assurance will bring many customers.
Still especting non quality assurance programs; with simular warning as system drivers etc.

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Mon, 29 Jun 2009 06:10:06 Z

I have had Windows7 RC as default OS for the last 6 weeks. It has been interesting but same time frustrating..
Things I like are 1) Faster boot 2) better memory management 3) a shut down button which does that and 4) the task bar changes
Things I don’t like are 1) changes made to the location of files for no apparent reason eg my documents are no longer in My Documents they are in the “user” folder. 2) Restrictive control of files and folders eg Cookies and MyDocuments can’t be opened in my “Name” folder.
3) duplication of folder names. eg The start menu documents has some common folders with “My Documents” in user “Name “ folder. There are a lot of smaller inconveniences that I could probably get used to , but I am switching back to XP for the things I cannot live with.
Things I can’t live with , I have mentioned before so I won’t harp on them. Mainly it is not being able to configure my OS the way I want it. 1) The start menu cannot be configured as it could in XP . 2) I can’t put data to be saved eg My Documents in a partition of its own. I played with Tweakui a bit but in the end abandoned it. And 3) Just too hard to navigate and open to files and folders “belonging” to the system and 4) there seems to files and folders everywhere which have the same names but you can open some and not others. Just very unnecessarily complicated. Seems all the effort has gone into making a pretty desktop and not an elegant OS.

Reiterating, if the start menu was made to be easily configured like XP I would buy the new Windows7 when it becomes available. If the start menu stays as it is in Windows7 RC I am sticking with XP. This may sound picky but with 50 odd programmes on my computer I don’t want to wasting time as I now am, running around the start menu to open one.
As background I am in my late 60’s and had every MS operating system since DOS 5 except Vista. So change is always going to be difficult for me, if there are not overwhelming advantages to change. I wish it well and thanks for the help I have had.

busso

I am a bit confused with respect to what you mean by "I can’t put data to be saved eg My Documents in a partition of its own." The My Documents (or Documents) folder is a reference point. If you go to the user, right click on My Documents, choose properties, and then choose Location, you can redirect the location to another place on the drive, on another drive entirely, or to another network location. It takes about 15 seconds - I have typically set my machines up since Vista with multiple user profiles (mostly to keep confidential business e-mail separate) but redirect most of the various personal User folders to an alternate location. BTW, the user folder concept itself is a Vista convention (not new to Windows 7) and is highly customizable with respect to "where things go." Personally I strongly prefer the Vista/Windows 7 approach over the clumsy and insecure approach to multiple users under XP. Different people have different preferences. As far as "restrictive control," Vista/Windows 7 security isn't going anywhere but it can be relaxed....

With respect to the Start Menu, I am glad the XP menu has been ditched and really hope it never returns. Again, it is a matter of perspective. FWIW though, there is already one third party app out to use taskbar jump list functionality to place whatever app shortcuts one wants under a single taskbar button. You click the button and then choose the program you want - everything under one button and no need to visit the menu at all.

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Mon, 29 Jun 2009 06:49:16 Z

Guess you weren't around for the transition from Mac OS9 to OSX when Mac lost many of their users to XP because the transition was easier and they had to buy all new software anyway as OSX didn't do backwards compatability - at all. LOL
lforbes

I gather the person is also not aware that the reason Adobe's CS4 apps for 64 bit are Windows/Vista-only because Apple changed programming languages in mid-stream on the software developers. For that matter, the person probably never saw the warnings from Nikon and Apple, after one of the recent Mac OS upgrades, that using Nikon's Capture NX on the new version of the OS could lead to image file corruption. If it weren't for two things, I would like Macs a lot more: the irritatingly cute names Apple insists on giving apps, and the "fan-like" attitudes of a subset of Mac users.....

Stephen

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Mon, 29 Jun 2009 08:23:22 Z

Media Center Library setup - I set to watch different folders - one with Video, One with Music, One with Photos ( not mixed ). I get all folders to navigate through when I go to Video or Music or Photo. Normally I should see only Vidoe Files in Video, Music Files in Music and Photos in Photos. Not Music Folder in Videos and all that mix... It's more dificult to navigate with those ghost folders.

Touch Panel problem to navigate - I've got the oportunity to install W7 for testing on 2 HP devices - An Touchsmart Media Center and a TouchPad Notebook. I got a pain in my ... to navigate and open programs, especially on the Notebook. Acording to your ideea touch is now what W7 should do the best. But I cannot navigate easy. Considering there is no keyboard and mouse I have to navigate with fingers or a pen. Perhaps you should consider an new explorer to be offered separatelly ( in the Touch Pack as example, but better separatelly ), based on the OLD CLASIC MENU, BUT with bigger spaces between tabs. The OLD way was more efficient in those cases - cannot search easy or use the mouse. A tree navigation is more efficient when using fingers, and gestures.

I've said better separatelly than in the Touch Pack ,because I've noticed that Touch Pack needs nVidia Physics. That means it will be offered perhaps on a very limited array of products.

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Mon, 29 Jun 2009 08:45:45 Z

Seems the reistry will always fill with garbage lol.
Perhaps if microsoft did a quality assurance system to pull in line software authors
to clean their garbage.
People would deftinately go for programs that are ehical about registry use and an assurance will bring many customers.
Still especting non quality assurance programs; with simular warning as system drivers etc.

zapbuzz -

Er.. That WAS the point of a lot of what all went into Vista. If you look back, old versions of Quickbooks prior to 2006 used to write values into the registry as a means to communicate between it's modules. Trying to run older versions of QB on Vista resulted in an epic FAIL. Mind you, Microsoft published best practices guidelines way back in 2001 when XP was released - that specifcally said NOT to use the Registry as a means to pass information between modules.

So when Vista came along - they enforced that bit of programming logic. And that bit of enforcement is carried on in Windows 7.

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Mon, 29 Jun 2009 12:39:08 Z

Why there isn't possible to reserve a drive letter to a drive (internal partition, external hd or cd/dvd)? It's possible to change but impossible to reserve. I think it's a good function for people that share music, video, image from external hd, and if the letter change, it's impossible to share. Please think about it...

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Mon, 29 Jun 2009 12:40:10 Z

I have autoplay turned OFF for mixed-content devices.

1. I Open a Win-7 Explorer window.
2. Insert a mixed-content thumb-drive
3. The removable drive shows up properly in explorer drives.
4. Click once to change the focus to the root of the removable thumb drive.
5. Unplug the thumb drive.

6. The explorer session terminates and closes.

Not good!

On XP and Vista when the USB drive was pulled, the drive would disappear, and Explorer focus would change to a nearby drive or to 'Computer', but the session would not terminate. This was perfectly understandable, reasonable and preferable.

Closing a preexisting Explorer session when a thumb drive is pulled is NOT GOOD!

If you manually click to change focus away from the removable drive before pulling it out, the explorer session does not terminate. It only closes when the focus is on the removable drive that is ejected.

I can see the design reasoning - When autoplay is on, and you insert a removable, Win-7 will automatically start an explorer window and then close down that explorer window automatically when the drive is removed to keep the desktop uncluttered. But it shouldn't close down preexisting non-autoplay windows.

Maybe the reasoning is ok, but the execution is flawed and incomplete.

And this just in - If I have 3 explorer windows open, and each has the focus on the thumb drive when it's removed, all 3 are closed.

Color me grumpy.

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Mon, 29 Jun 2009 13:51:26 Z

I only want to uncheck "Alert me when someone responds to this post.

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Mon, 29 Jun 2009 14:18:23 Z

How big of a job would it be to modify outlook express 6 to work with Win 7? I have used every email program I can find and they just don't work as well as outlook express. I contacted MS and they said they would monitor the number of request to fix outlook express and go from there. PLEASE CONTACT THEM! Outlook express 7 would be a great addition to a very good OS (Win 7)

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Mon, 29 Jun 2009 15:27:06 Z

I didn't like using Windows 7-- the UI was a bit of an eyesore, and half my drivers did not work. Please stop sending me reminder emails to use it.

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Mon, 29 Jun 2009 15:30:32 Z

Well, I've included a Music folder from my external hd to Music Library, but after I can't eject my external hd. Only after I remove the folder to library, I can do this. I think the including in the library is a good idea, but if I can't remove external hd, it's useless. Can you fix it?

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Mon, 29 Jun 2009 16:52:35 Z

I'll never make it. I use XP Media addition and Home and Prof. I watched the video on how to migrate to Win7 using USMT. I could not follow it. I guess I am too old and past my prime. I hope some one will provide a migration service for folks like me.

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Mon, 29 Jun 2009 18:44:31 Z

I dont know why you think than people who purchase Home Premium dont need to connect to a projector ¿¿?? this is needed for connect to a TV or to another monitor, please, let us connect to a projector

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Mon, 29 Jun 2009 22:55:57 Z

I'm liking the way win7 functions so far, however i have a little suggestion on the peek function. as of now it seems its use is just for looking at the wallpaper. Instead, i think it would be cool if the function allowed you to make certain windows transparent or semi transparent in the foreground so that you may get information off of a window in the background. I.e i have an installation window open in the foreground, but it involves directions that are found in a pdf/window/notepad in the background.

just a suggestion. keep up the good work

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Tue, 30 Jun 2009 00:39:40 Z

Jondoe925,

That's exactly what I use the preview of the items on the taskbar for. I don't have to click on anything, just hover over the taskbar item and then hover over the window preview. It brings that window to focus for me to read, then I just move the mouse and my work is back in focus.

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Tue, 30 Jun 2009 03:54:08 Z

In the modern age of USB thumb drives, we should be able to format these drives through Windows 7 and make them bootable to a command prompt (i.e. for motherboard BIOS updates that need to be done before actually installing Windows).

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Tue, 30 Jun 2009 04:54:41 Z

What BIOS are you using that won't let you install the update from Windows?

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Tue, 30 Jun 2009 11:36:36 Z

i know it is too late for this, but there's one very good thing that can be made in W7 with so little code:

we saw with the years libraries evolving, and finally in W7 we see a good progress, what can be made even better, so i wouldnt have to write it on myself:

i want this functionality in the next gen OS --> it would be great if i could with a touch of a button/selecting criteria, to create automated folders for all of the types content, but sortet first by Year, Month and then subfolders libraries content. it would be great if i could create this with a touch of a button, so i won't bother organize and sinchronize my huge libraries everyday

automated creation of folders and automated filling, distributing and sinchronizing in one, by criteria is a great functionality, that no one has bothered to think of. if Microsoft get first use of it, i'm sure it will have GREAT impact on their sales!

if anyone is interested im ready to send a schematic on this great functionality

thank you for your time

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Tue, 30 Jun 2009 12:10:55 Z

Is it a good feature to add lock desktop gadget? Thanks

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Tue, 30 Jun 2009 13:36:13 Z

Vietnamese collation is still not correct.

As mentioned in a lot of topics, this should be fixed in a major Windows Version. But it's still a standing issue with Windows 7 RC.

It would help us a lot to get this correct. It's Vietnam with a market with population of more than 86+ million people.

Below is my unit test for Vietnamese collection.

        [TestMethod]
        // References:
        // http://vietunicode.sourceforge.net/charset/vietalphabet.html
        // http://blogs.msdn.com/michkap/archive/2005/08/27/457224.aspx
        // http://blogs.msdn.com/michkap/archive/2008/03/26/8337198.aspx
        // http://www.eggheadcafe.com/forumarchives/NETinternationalization/Aug2005/post23518788.asp       

        // http://developer.mimer.com/collations/charts/vietnamese.htm
        // http://developer.mimer.com/collations/charts/vietnamese_traditional.htm        
        public void TestVietnameseSorting()
        {
            // Comparing and Sorting Data for a Specific Culture
            // http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/a7zyyk0c.aspx

            const string vietAlpha = "aAàÀảẢãÃáÁạẠăĂằẰẳẲẵẴắẮặẶâÂầẦẩẨẫẪấẤậẬbBcCdDđĐeEèÈẻẺẽẼéÉẹẸêÊềỀểỂễỄếẾệỆfFgGhHiIìÌỉỈĩĨíÍịỊjJkKlLmMnNoOòÒỏỎõÕóÓọỌôÔồỒổỔỗỖốỐộỘơƠờỜởỞỡỠớỚợỢpPqQrRsStTuUùÙủỦũŨúÚụỤưƯừỪửỬữỮứỨựỰvVwWxXyYỳỲỷỶỹỸýÝỵỴzZ";

            char[] charArray = vietAlpha.ToCharArray();
            var precomposed = new string[charArray.Length];
            var composite = new string[charArray.Length];

            for (int i = 0; i < charArray.Length; i++)
            {
                precomposed[i] = charArray[i].ToString();
                composite[i] = charArray[i].ToString().Normalize(NormalizationForm.FormD);
            }

            // Sets the CurrentCulture to "vi-VN".
            Thread.CurrentThread.CurrentCulture = new CultureInfo("vi-VN");
            // Sort the values of the Array.
            Array.Sort(precomposed);
            Array.Sort(composite);

            var preComposedStr = new StringBuilder();
            var compositeStr = new StringBuilder();

            for (int i = 0; i < precomposed.Length; i++)
            {
                preComposedStr.Append(precomposed[i]);
                compositeStr.Append(composite[i]);
            }
            Console.WriteLine("Vietnamse expected sort order :" + preComposedStr);
            Console.WriteLine("Precompose sort order: "+ preComposedStr);
            Console.WriteLine("Composite sort order: " + compositeStr);

            Assert.AreEqual(vietAlpha,preComposedStr);
            Assert.AreEqual(vietAlpha,compositeStr);

        }

These are references about Vietnamese collation:

http://vietunicode.sourceforge.net/charset/vietalphabet.html
http://blogs.msdn.com/michkap/archive/2005/08/27/457224.aspx
http://blogs.msdn.com/michkap/archive/2008/03/26/8337198.aspx
http://www.eggheadcafe.com/forumarchives/NETinternationalization/Aug2005/post23518788.asp
http://developer.mimer.com/collations/charts/vietnamese.htm
http://developer.mimer.com/collations/charts/vietnamese_traditional.htm

Cheers,
Duc.

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Tue, 30 Jun 2009 18:21:26 Z

Photoviewer has a bug, when clicking on actual size, before maximizing, and then maximizing(so first actual size, then maximize window) The bar becomes all gray and ugly. Also, wouldnt it be better for the transparent bar to show the picture you are watching, and not the desktop...

Problems encountered: 1. Xfire does not autostart anymore. 2. Photoviewer bug when clicking, "View actual size"

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Tue, 30 Jun 2009 22:15:33 Z

2nd that, please

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Tue, 30 Jun 2009 22:33:04 Z

I use it way more than the forward and back buttons, and it only takes half the space. And unforturnately, the back button doesn't always take you to the parent directory.

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Tue, 30 Jun 2009 22:45:22 Z

In XP I use the keyboard shortcut Windows key, U, and then U or R to shut down or restart the computer. In Windows 7 all this does is search for "uu" or "ur". Please bring back keyboard shortcuts to shut down or restart the computer.

I agree. There are a lot of places where Windows 7 is less friendly for keyboard users. For shutdown/reboot, you can still use Alt+F4 when the desktop has focus.

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Tue, 30 Jun 2009 22:49:27 Z

Try Ctrl+Alt+Delete as your system command (shutdown/reboot) launch point. It's got a slight amount of lag though because it's switching to the secure desktop to render that screen.

Although honestly I'm not impacted much because to sleep I just tap my power button, and I can barely remember the last time I used a full shutdown or reboot.

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Tue, 30 Jun 2009 23:01:06 Z

Ctl+Alt+Del brings up the security desktop. On mine, the closest thing I see is logoff. Shutdown and reboot are not available options.

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Tue, 30 Jun 2009 23:37:42 Z

Wow, right you are bnborg... I would have sworn on my life that it included a shutdown option. I didn't check because I was at work as I posted that (and we're still on Windows 2000 there :-(

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Tue, 30 Jun 2009 23:52:02 Z

Ctl+Alt+Del brings up the security desktop. On mine, the closest thing I see is logoff. Shutdown and reboot are not available options.

I wouldn't think there would be any difference on this on different machines, but there is a red button (labeled "Shutdown Options" if I hover over it) in the bottom right corner of the "security desktop screen" on my machine when I hit Control+Alt+Delete. That is not present on your machine? That is a surprise....

Stephen

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Tue, 30 Jun 2009 23:55:40 Z

Yeah, but how do you get to it using just the keyboard?

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Tue, 30 Jun 2009 23:58:43 Z

Looks like tab is the only way. The options in the center have accelerator keys that appear when you press Alt, but that shutdown one apparently does not. The only way with the keyboard I was able to find was to tap WinFlag, then escape, then Alt+F4 to get to the shutdown dialog. Kind of kludgy.

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Wed, 01 Jul 2009 00:01:44 Z

Yeah, but how do you get to it using just the keyboard?

If you have keyed in Control+Alt+Delete and are on the screen, hit tab a couple times or just hit Alt+S (either work)....

Stephen

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Wed, 01 Jul 2009 02:12:55 Z

SUGGESTION: When selecting multiple items in a folder, the staus bar (aero theme) will display a "Show more details..." link. When pressed it will calculate folder data from the selected items. Imagine if you were selecting less items and wanted to see how much the size of the data has shrank -- you then have to manually hit the link again (and again etc). It would be nice if the link 'remembered' from the content selected (as well as using key combinations: holding shift or control or select +a) and kept calculating selected item information for that series of actions.

Pretty damn trivial I suppose, but it'd be another nice touch :)

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Wed, 01 Jul 2009 02:35:17 Z

Windows 7 Help has not been useful when I've attempted to use it a number of times. For example, when I enter the term "wallpaper" (in an attempt to see what wallpapers are available) it gives me 0 responses. It suggests I search the Windows website, etc. I received the same response when I searched for "screensavers." I tried to find out how to use medium icons for all folders, so I searched "use all same icons," an admittedly probably unclear term. It returned "Keyboard Shortcuts."

I think Windows 7 is great, but there are going to be a lot of non-professional users using it, and I'm afraid that if we don't give them usable help, they'll become discouraged. I've had to use a search engine to answer every question I've had.

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Wed, 01 Jul 2009 03:38:19 Z

Hey Steve, I can't seem to figure out how to duplicate what you're saying. I went into my documents folder (not library) and ctrl+selected a few Word files, but I don't see a link to "show more details".

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Wed, 01 Jul 2009 05:01:52 Z

The "Open With" sub-menu in Windows Vista doesn't seem to work as well as in Windows XP. Before I formatted and installed XP, I always ended up having to browse for the application I wanted to use, whereas XP always showed it in the list. After I chose the new application once in XP, and went to "Open with" again, it would appear in the list. But Vista made me browse every time. Has this been improved in Windows 7? I installed the RC inside VMWare, but I don't have any third-party applications installed to test it, yet. If it hasn't been improved, then I would be grateful if it were.

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Wed, 01 Jul 2009 05:03:35 Z

In my experience it is. My computer came with Vista and the Open With was just as you describe. In 7, it populates that list with the latest program(s) I've used to "Open With".

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Wed, 01 Jul 2009 10:24:44 Z

Well my comment about Windows 7 RC is that I would much rather use Vista.
To me 7 RC is one of the most boring OS's ever to come from the Third Reich ( commonly know as Microsoft) and although Vista does not do all that much that could be described as being outstanding other than being really good at eating resources and HDD space, at least it was an innovative & different move away fro the tried & true of days gone bye while still managing to incorporate just enough of "the same as" from previous versions.

Unless the Final 7 is going to be tweaked a fair amount further than the available RC version I will be sticking with what I have. I tried it for about 1 month and by the end of the 4th week I was totally bored with it. It felt like I had down graded every time I booted it up.

Vista may have had its problems in the beginning and it still has a few now but with advent of the two service packs & the truck load of KB patches it is really is starting to behave & has morphed itself into a great OS.
Windows 7 is just Microsoft's finished N-Lite version of Vista anyway.

Cheers all

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Wed, 01 Jul 2009 11:58:57 Z

The Windows 7 Upgrade Advisor Beta doesn't seem to be working with one of my computers, it worked fine with this laptop I'm using right now, but not with my desktop computer.

I Installed it on my desktop computer, opened the program, BUT, when I click "Start Check", I get the following error message:

"Windows 7 Upgrade Advisor ran into a problem scanning your devices.

Upgrade Advisor needs to be able to scan your devices to determine if

your computer is capable of running Windows 7.

Please let us know about this problem."

there, I get that, exactly as it is written, any advice on how to fix this issue?

I'm currently running Windows Vista Home Premium..and I've searched a lot so far trying to fix this issue, still nothing.

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Wed, 01 Jul 2009 12:13:00 Z

My SSD from Super Talent uses a program called Wiper to defrag my drive. Actually, it's not really a defrag, but in a way takes its place.

The issue is that it relies on ATA PASS THRU to cummunicate with the SSD.
Windows does not enable this feature if the drive is smaller than 137GB.

XP has an update to solve this problem, but Windows 7 does not.

Anyone have any information on this pertaining to Windows 7?

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Wed, 01 Jul 2009 12:45:32 Z

I have been installing and uninstalling Windows 7 quite a bit over the past week or so, and have noticed what seems to be a potential defect. I have been using the RC build (build 7100). My wireless AP has the following characteristics:

- Model: 2700HG-D Gateway
- Security: WPA-Personal w/ TKIP
- SSID is hidden
- Passphrase contains special characters, including '(' and '#'

Every time I install Windows 7, I see the same behavior. During the installation my wireless hardware is detected correctly and it asks which SSID I would like to connect to. I can see that the hardware is working reasonably well, because the scan shows all the other APs that are nearby. Since my SSID is hidden, though, it doesn't show up in the list.

I click the link to enter the info manually (for a hidden SSID) and enter the correct information. When I tell it to try to conect, though, it always comes back telling me I have an invalid passphrase. It also seems that the error comes back unusually fast -- almost as though it is just looking at my passphrase and deciding it's invalid without actually trying it with the AP.

At that point, I typically click the 'skip' button and the rest of the install works without problems.

Once Windows 7 is installed, I'm able to connect to my AP without any trouble at all, simply by providing the AP SSID and passphrase and telling it to connect even if the AP isn't broadcasting. So, for me, this isn't really a problem. I thought I'd point it out, though, in order to make people aware.

With the setup I have this issue is 100% reproducible.

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Wed, 01 Jul 2009 14:37:21 Z

My comments:
Surprisingly impressed. Windows 7 installed onto my aging Celeron 2.8GHz PC very easily. The most impressive part was that it automatically detected my LinkSys wireless card and apart from manually entering the wep key everything else configured automaticallly. Well done. It hasn't found my in-built sound chipset yet though!

Regards,

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Wed, 01 Jul 2009 14:41:18 Z

This is a minor suggestion that I feel could make a big impact from a begginers perspective.
I work a lot with people who don't have much experience in using computers.

I think it would be great if the mouse cursor would change when the mouse is moved to the top title bar in a window.
This way a new user would realize that the window could be moved around as long as they saw aforementioned cursor.
I'm thinking maybe a claw or a grabby hand would work well.

I love the idea of the new devices and printers panel. But It would be more usefull if for example, when a user
double clicked on the mouse. If it brought up the options panel where the user could set double click speed, mouse speed, etc.
Rather than the device properties for the mouse.

I also agree with what another person said about how when a when you click on a program that's in the taskbar it should open up the last
window that was selected.

I have high hopes for Windows 7, and I hope that it's improved even more before it hits the shelves.

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Wed, 01 Jul 2009 17:02:01 Z

With Firefox 3.5, Firefox bug (when you reduce it, messenger open itself...), is almost fixed, it happens on 0,1%... If also this 0,1% will fix, it's perfect...
Now I found another bug, with gadgets. It happens 3 times for now. With any windows open, the gadtes remain on top (and it's not selected). After restart, it's fixed. See this:
http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/2989/gadgetonwindows.jpg

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Wed, 01 Jul 2009 18:58:42 Z

Tell Microsoft about the problem (send them an e-mail!) because it is a BETA you might find bugs in it and this seems to be a Bug!

Are you connected to the Internet when you try to start the scan?

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Wed, 01 Jul 2009 19:32:12 Z

ok, which e-mail is my choice to sending the report to Microsoft?

Yes, I am connected to the internet when I start the scan.

The error also occurs a few seconds after I click the "Start Scan" button.

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Wed, 01 Jul 2009 21:14:28 Z

Running Windows 7 on seperate hard drive vista on the other. My card reader worked fine on vista but does not work on windows 7. The device manager shows the drives as present but not shown on - devices with removable storage- in computer. Have plugged in a cf card with content still no show in computer, in device manager in properties for cf carder reader the volume is recognised and is listed as on line. Have tried to install driver for xp in capability mode will not install as system does not recognise the card reader is installed so won't build a driver etc so installation ends. Have done all the plugging unplugging as directed. My usb memory sticks are recognised and working normally. My Canon camera does function with the CF card as does all the software so not an urgent need, any ideas. I'm trying not to go back to vista.

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Wed, 01 Jul 2009 21:19:16 Z

Hi,

I currently use an XP machine and I use MIDI a lot. On other machines I have that have Vista the option to use the SoundCard's MIDI is not there. In XP in the sound menu I could pick default devices and "Only Use Default Devices" which was really good, because the default microsoft DLS (GM.DLS) is awful.

I was wondering if there is a way in Windows 7 to make this the defualt device and to only allow applications to use the SoundCard's MIDI and not the annoying Microsoft MIDI.

For example Windows Media Player (and any other program) on XP plays MIDI files using my custom SoundBank on my Creative card. In Vista using another Creative card, the defualt Microsoft MIDI bank plays MIDI files in WMP and other programs.

This is one of the main reasons as to why I havn't upgraded to Vista yet, and if Windows 7 cannot do it too, I will just stay on XP.

If there is some way of contacting Microsoft to ask them about this I would, but I don't think there is.

Many Thanks

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Wed, 01 Jul 2009 22:16:29 Z

The gadgets thing does sometimes happen, I can confirm this. To fix it I just kill the sidebar.exe process :)

Regards,
Kristaps.

P.S.: Epic shoop is epic.

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Wed, 01 Jul 2009 22:47:59 Z

Here's a small UI suggestion which could ease the life of keyboard users:

When you open Start Menu (either with Start Orb or WinKey ), pressing Enter (without typing anything in search box) should open the All Programs menu.
IMO it would be pretty useful, since it increases the speed in which you can do smth, and that is kind of what MS is going for in Win7, right.

And Enter isn't currently used for anything if the search box is empty.

Comments pls?

Regards,
Kristaps.

P.S.: Epic shoop is epic.

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Wed, 01 Jul 2009 23:27:22 Z

Here's a big problem... Now with support for DNLA, Windows 7 can push videos, music, photos, etc in your home network, but there a bug, when media player play the media in the other device, the plugins doesnt work, for example: subtitles.

I recorded a program from TV, becouse I want to see it later with subtitles, but when I push the video to my TV (in this case is a virtual PC) the subtitles doesnt show up. The plugin is a filter named VSFilter.dll and this is just for showing subtitles

Here you can see, how the subtitles are showed right in the current PC, but in the other device, the subtitles are missing

Please, I know than you dont care about people out of the US, but please fix this :)

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Thu, 02 Jul 2009 01:48:28 Z

There's a bug in WMP12 -- Alt+F4 doesn't work -- in WMP12 it just opens the main menu, instead of closing the application. This must be fixed, since Alt+F4 is a vital keyboard shortcut in Windows.

Regards,
Kristaps.

P.S.: Epic shoop is epic.

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Thu, 02 Jul 2009 07:24:02 Z

"I am BEGGING you Microsoft, please add this OPTION before you release Win8:

We should at least have the OPTION to flip through the windows
as the icon is CLICKED.

I am aware that holding ctrl does this. One, that's a bullcrap solution. Two, this does nothing for tablet users."

For more on this topic, My full, original TechNet post:
http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-CA/w7itproui/thread/0bc9401e-f1bd-4c29-9768-ab92592987c4
My full blog post:
http://fromthesoftwarecritic.blogspot.com/2009/06/windows-7s-taskbar-is-disaster.html
A very shoddy hack to solve this (ruins touch input to start)
http://www.ocellated.com/2009/06/04/taskbar-overlord/

Also, sending out a big NO for "Kira Style"'s suggestion.

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Thu, 02 Jul 2009 09:39:43 Z

"I am BEGGING you Microsoft, please add this OPTION before you release Win8:

We should at least have the OPTION to flip through the windows
as the icon is CLICKED.

I am aware that holding ctrl does this. One, that's a bullcrap solution. Two, this does nothing for tablet users."

For more on this topic, My full, original TechNet post:
http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-CA/w7itproui/thread/0bc9401e-f1bd-4c29-9768-ab92592987c4
My full blog post:
http://fromthesoftwarecritic.blogspot.com/2009/06/windows-7s-taskbar-is-disaster.html
A very shoddy hack to solve this (ruins touch input to start)
http://www.ocellated.com/2009/06/04/taskbar-overlord/

Also, sending out a big NO for "Kira Style"'s suggestion.

totally have to agrea with this felow above me.... IT IS MORE THAN INCONVENIENT when you have to work with multiple windows. Just like yesterday, i was writing a seminar workd and had opend 4 word and 3 adobe documents TRY to navigate between them,,,, it is almost impossible when they group up.....

I always have to FIIND the damn thng before i can reuse it,,, yes i opened and rearranged them so i can write and read (pretty useful have to admit, very cool, you can scrool in one doc and still write in another, THUMBS UP!) but when i went to somewhere else i would have to find the damn window again and i lose about 15 sec on it. once i wrote some notes for one topic. i had 20 word doc and 6 pdf files opened CAN YOU IMAGINE THE NIGHT MARE?????

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Thu, 02 Jul 2009 10:01:43 Z

hy there

I have found a major bug in your windows messenger aliication

It is as folowed as soon as you log in you are shown not 1 window but 2 where one is totaly usles it is only toth as taskbar icon which it is show on mz print screens. Can you guzs pleese fix this,,, becouse when I use meenger i dont want him to be a task bar siting duck and taking up 2 whole slots in mz task bar!

here are the problem screens:

NOTE that there is no conersation open no nothing but it is still taking up 2 slots WITHOUT ANY REASONABLE reason!!!!!

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Thu, 02 Jul 2009 14:52:09 Z

try using office 2007 it run great on w7(outlook is inside)

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Thu, 02 Jul 2009 15:05:19 Z

You know what is truly sad? That Microsoft just ignores all the great ideas over here, like they didn't care at all.
Some idea examples (most of these listed are mine, some of them are just made up, but that does not matter):

The big Taskbar clock
Clicking on Taskbar item w/ many windows the most recent window is opened
"Eject " button in Task Pane when looking inside removable drives
Middle-click on "Show Desktop " activates Flip3D
Improved "turn system icons on and off" panel (drop-downs for booleans? ever heard of checkboxes?)
Change volume w/ scroll wheel when hovered over volume tray icon
Visually connect thumbnails and Taskbar items
Jump lists in shown "All Programs"
"Enter " w/ just opened Start Menu opens "All Programs"
Pin anything (folder, file, whatever) to Taskbar
Horizontal Taskbar overflow , with scrollwheel/touch sliding

I could go on and on for hours, but it's not like MS cares :'-(

Well, we still have hope in RC1. At least I hope so.

Regards,
Kristaps.

P.S.: Epic shoop is epic.

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Thu, 02 Jul 2009 15:12:18 Z

Info re Win-7 and CD/RW disks.

On known good, modern hardware (Sony DVD-RW DRU-842A drive on a PCI controller),Win7 seems to having considerable difficulty with older CD-RW disks.

When both UDF formatted and blank CD-RW disks are inserted the drive will attempt to read the disk 'forever'. Windows explorer will lock up while Win7 is attempting just to mount the disk. Autoplay is totally turned off. Recovery requires physically ejecting the disk, using task manager to stop the Windows Explorer process(es) and then log off and back on. A couple of times things actually worked properly for unknown reasons, but each time a CD-RW disk is loaded it's about an 80% chance of disaster.

The difficulty with CD/RW happened on Win-7 when it was "plain vanilla" and no 3rd party burning software was yet installed.

I reboot to XP sp3 on the same hardware and and all goes perfectly - loading, burning, erasing, etc.

Yes fun we are having yet

Color me grumpy

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Thu, 02 Jul 2009 15:20:37 Z

totally have to agrea with this felow above me.... IT IS MORE THAN INCONVENIENT when you have to work with multiple windows. Just like yesterday, i was writing a seminar workd and had opend 4 word and 3 adobe documents TRY to navigate between them,,,, it is almost impossible when they group up.....

I always have to FIIND the damn thng before i can reuse it,,, yes i opened and rearranged them so i can write and read (pretty useful have to admit, very cool, you can scrool in one doc and still write in another, THUMBS UP!) but when i went to somewhere else i would have to find the damn window again and i lose about 15 sec on it. once i wrote some notes for one topic. i had 20 word doc and 6 pdf files opened CAN YOU IMAGINE THE NIGHT MARE?????

Please don't assume that your example and angst speaks for everyone. Again, this is totally a matter of perspective and assumes that what you find inconvenient is true for the world. I regularly have an array of Word, Excel. Acrobat, and other app windows open and find the way it is setup to be intuitive and incredibly elegant (not a word I often use about a Microsoft OS). My bet is this is the way it is, and they have't done anything for the very small number of people complaining, because it is something they got out of their focus groups during design. In response to "CAN YOU IMAGINE THE NIGHT MARE?????": I can beat that 20 docs and 6 pdfs most days and no I cannot. There is no reason to assume that everyone will look at your example and see a disaster meriting the all caps yelling. Of course, if you compare this to the more basic implementation of Aero in Vista, and the lack of any comparable functionality in XP, the world is coming to an end stuff also sure seems a bit over the top. What did you do before? Finally, the taskbar functionality constitutes a pretty major re-write from Vista. I seriously doubt the code change here would be as simple as the small number of vocal complainers think it would be. Even if there was a need to do this, about which I disagree, do it in a SP 1 or a functionality enhancement pack.

Stephen

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Thu, 02 Jul 2009 15:34:12 Z

You know what is truly sad? That Microsoft just ignores all the great ideas over here, like they didn't care at all.
Some idea examples (most of these listed are mine, some of them are just made up, but that does not matter)...

So how exactly do you know they have just ignored all of the "great ideas?" There has been precisely one public beta and one RC. Personally, I don't think they are all great ideas, but leaving that aside, most of the stuff you've listed are tied to either taskbar or Aero functionality. Since these elements of the OS work, and since they have established a schedule for releasing the OS, I think it makes perfect sense to to address enhancements in SP1, or some sort of enhancement pack. Unless you have contacts on the developer team, you are making a big assumption about what Microsoft has ignored and what they have not....

Stephen

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Thu, 02 Jul 2009 15:52:07 Z

You know what is truly sad? That Microsoft just ignores all the great ideas over here, like they didn't care at all.
Some idea examples (most of these listed are mine, some of them are just made up, but that does not matter)...

So how exactly do you know they have just ignored all of the "great ideas?" There has been precisely one public beta and one RC. Personally, I don't think they are all great ideas, but leaving that aside, most of the stuff you've listed are tied to either taskbar or Aero functionality. Since these elements of the OS work, and since they have established a schedule for releasing the OS, I think it makes perfect sense to to address enhancements in SP1, or some sort of enhancement pack. Unless you have contacts on the developer team, you are making a big assumption about what Microsoft has ignored and what they have not....

Stephen

Leaked builds. They partially show the development progress, but we're not supposed to talk about that here, so we won't. I hope you understand ;)

Regards,
Kristaps.

P.S.: Epic shoop is epic.

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Thu, 02 Jul 2009 15:57:27 Z

I agree with Kristaps, they are ignoring very good ideas.
And, its very easy to know it. They said Windows 7 is done, and feature complete. It is like saying: RC1 is final version, we will just remove a few bugs (and maybe introduce new ones in the process, but this is another history...)

And, yes, they ignorated lots of ideas past in beta, long before the release of RC1.

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Thu, 02 Jul 2009 16:56:41 Z

Btw, when there are multiple files selected in Windows Explorer, the right-click menu lacks "Open With..." submenu

Regards,
Kristaps.

P.S.: Epic shoop is epic.

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Thu, 02 Jul 2009 17:17:11 Z

I agree with Kristaps, they are ignoring very good ideas.
And, its very easy to know it. They said Windows 7 is done, and feature complete. It is like saying: RC1 is final version, we will just remove a few bugs (and maybe introduce new ones in the process, but this is another history...)

And, yes, they ignorated lots of ideas past in beta, long before the release of RC1.

Not worth getting into a debate about this but two things:

1) Again, how do you know they are ignoring the suggestions?
2) Has anyone even read Microsoft's statements about the RC process. The fact that the RC was, indeed, to identify bugs prior to going RTM was hardly a secret. Likewise, that the essential feature set was locked was also not hidden.

People have, all along, been making suggestions that may or may not be addressed in a SP (or other pack). Bugs are what matter in the RC, not things people would like to see done differently.

Unless you know someone on the development team, it is simply not a justifiable assumption that Microsoft is "ignoring you." The history of XP and Vista (and the various server OSs) demonstrate that new features do get implemented in SPs, etc....

Stephen

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Thu, 02 Jul 2009 18:25:22 Z

After a lot of fight, I must say: BUG report: RC, but no Beta, it is almos impossible to change a second network to other than public and unidentified network.

Every windows was kind a nightmare to set networks (W98SE, XP, Vista) and sadly, W7 is not the exception.

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Thu, 02 Jul 2009 18:34:45 Z

Hello!

When I must perform time-consumig tasks like downloadig big files or recording CDs/DVDs, I usually play a game.
When a game ends in Freecell, a popup appears showing statistics and asking if I would like to play again or exit.
The problem is that this popup window prevents any interact with the game window. It´s impossible to minimize as well as to move the game window.
From time to time I want to peek at the recorder (or file download) window to see it´s progress WITHOUT closing Freecell.
I know, I know. It´s very simple to make a mouse click to get the required window focused, but my question is:
"Is it really necessary to have the game window LOCKED in my desktop?"
Will it be fixed in the retail version?
Fernando.

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Thu, 02 Jul 2009 19:56:13 Z

You're talking about the Network & Sharing Center, right?

Find your network there (my UI isn't English, but you should be able to find everything ;))

This will get you to the window where you choose home/work/public network type.

Regards,
Kristaps.

P.S.: Epic shoop is epic.

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Thu, 02 Jul 2009 21:23:27 Z

totally have to agrea with this felow above me.... IT IS MORE THAN INCONVENIENT when you have to work with multiple windows. Just like yesterday, i was writing a seminar workd and had opend 4 word and 3 adobe documents TRY to navigate between them,,,, it is almost impossible when they group up.....

I always have to FIIND the damn thng before i can reuse it,,, yes i opened and rearranged them so i can write and read (pretty useful have to admit, very cool, you can scrool in one doc and still write in another, THUMBS UP!) but when i went to somewhere else i would have to find the damn window again and i lose about 15 sec on it. once i wrote some notes for one topic. i had 20 word doc and 6 pdf files opened CAN YOU IMAGINE THE NIGHT MARE?????

Please don't assume that your example and angst speaks for everyone. Again, this is totally a matter of perspective and assumes that what you find inconvenient is true for the world. I regularly have an array of Word, Excel. Acrobat, and other app windows open and find the way it is setup to be intuitive and incredibly elegant (not a word I often use about a Microsoft OS). My bet is this is the way it is, and they have't done anything for the very small number of people complaining, because it is something they got out of their focus groups during design. In response to "CAN YOU IMAGINE THE NIGHT MARE?????": I can beat that 20 docs and 6 pdfs most days and no I cannot. There is no reason to assume that everyone will look at your example and see a disaster meriting the all caps yelling. Of course, if you compare this to the more basic implementation of Aero in Vista, and the lack of any comparable functionality in XP, the world is coming to an end stuff also sure seems a bit over the top. What did you do before? Finally, the taskbar functionality constitutes a pretty major re-write from Vista. I seriously doubt the code change here would be as simple as the small number of vocal complainers think it would be. Even if there was a need to do this, about which I disagree, do it in a SP 1 or a functionality enhancement pack.

Stephen

Ok Stephen, then tell me o great Socrates of nonsense shouting HATER XD...

I WILL SHOUT SHOUT SHOUT until your ayes pop out,,,,

Shesh relax i dint even offend anyone and tehere comes the rhetorical vigelanty who has no idea of what the mater at all is,,, it is just important that SOMEONE USED CAPS LOCK, o no robin get into the BaTmObiLe!!! there is a shouter on the lose XD... shesh

now back on the topic after you get back from the shock...

We are not asking because WE LIKE IT!!!(cough, cough, like you, cough, cough) we are asking for it for a simple reason. THE reason the Microsoft build on, the reason of FAST reaching of things,,,

IT IS A DROP OF PERFORMANCE when YOU have to use up 15 seconds for an action which is REQUIRED every 30 - 180 seconds, while earlier you would only need at max 3 seconds to find it on the classical way, i am not saying that od way is good, it STINKS, this one (new one) is way bather it is just unfinished product, which this RC version is after all, and we are simply implying, precise to be begging to fix this lepsus made from the designers,,, to be fixed.

To sum things up the reason why this but shod be fixed is following:

lost time = number of opened documents * (number of times you need to go somewhere else, somwhere where you use full window/number of times you have more windows visible) * average 15 seconds

your equation against this calculation i am eagerly awaiting, please enlighten us oo mighty Socrates.

And for the last part, it is not difficult to conclude that you have no idea of programing, this inconvenience is very easy to fix, yes testing will take some time, but from a technical point of view the is only one more action to be added and some code to be rewriten, not more than 2 pages at most if i am right in the assumption it is written in C# or c++ which is moust likly the CASE (some more caps nja nja NJA Nja njA beee XD, (stretch tongue out) ppppplllllllllllll!!!)

And this is a complain that has nothing to do with tehnical problems... mean this one below:

IN vista and here to the bosnian keybord was modified, the "./del" number pad key is now a "," key which is just anoying, where did you get the idea that we use it that way???? it was ok before why dont you revert it back it was like before? like it is on 99% of the world? just who asked you to do this stupid thing?

That was a comment that you can reason on for need or not need;
When a distance is increased from a point A to a point B, you cant reason about if it is is just longer or not it is longer and basta! Yes Ainstain says somthing else.. but if i can fire you from a canon faster than light than i am more than hapy to recall my claims.

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Thu, 02 Jul 2009 22:27:04 Z

Dialog boxes and alike have frozen their parent windows since, like, Win95, and I don't see this behavior changing for a long time.

From user's oppinion, it's annoying, but for developers it might actually be useful (like, you must choose yes/no, and you mustn't close the parent window)

Regards,
Kristaps.

P.S.: Epic shoop is epic.

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Thu, 02 Jul 2009 23:56:52 Z

Powershell ISE
The "Start Powershell.exe" button in Powershell ISE opens a default Windows Powershell session (black bg, white text, Consolas font). If a user has customized settings those will not be used. It is possible for the user to customize the ISE's Powershell to match their normal window but this sort of action is unnecessary and creates more work for end-users. The ISE should pull the settings from the users profile.

Also, these sessions use the systempath (C:\Windows\System32\WindowsPowershell\v1.0\powershell.exe) for use as the window titlebar text, regular Powershell windows open using only the text "Windows Powershell". The ISE's way of handling title's is bad for users who use ungrouped taskbar items (not me, but still
worth mentioning).

Windows Media Player 12
When opening video files that are equal or greater than the size of the user's desktop WMP should open maximized (not fullscreen). As things are it opens in a restored window set to the size of the user's desktop, which waste space on every edge of the screen because of border passing and looks awkward.

For you inquiring about keyboard for PC power options:
Win > > W = Switch User
Win > > L = Log off
Win > > O = Lock
Win > > R = Restart
Win > > U = Shut down

Win > Enter = you default Start Menu power option, which will be missing from the More options menu.

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Fri, 03 Jul 2009 02:07:26 Z

I hope you guys reconsider releasing Windows 7, this software is no where neer ready to sell. You remember what happened with the first release of Windows Vista?

You release a product thats not ready for sale, then when people see how messed up it is you will ruin the brand name jsut like you did with vista, thats the whole reason why you had to make WIndows 7 is because the Vista brand name has been so damaged that you can no longer use it.

Think twice before you destroy another brand name. There are way to many issues with Windows 7

Setup: Intel Q6600 Core 2 Quad @ 2.9 Ghz 8800 GTS 512 MB OC Nvidia Ep45-Ds3Lr Gigabyte Board 4 Gbs OCZ DDR2 800 Ram Antec 900 Gaming Case 7,200 RPM Seagate Hdd Zalman Fan Controller Windows 7 RC 64 Bit

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Fri, 03 Jul 2009 02:14:02 Z

Hey J-CHase,
Different people have different opionions and requirements and expectations. I'm just curious, what do you consider some of the major show-stopping issues that should be fixed before 7 goes on sale?

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Fri, 03 Jul 2009 03:29:50 Z

Here's a big problem... Now with support for DNLA, Windows 7 can push videos, music, photos, etc in your home network, but there a bug, when media player play the media in the other device, the plugins doesnt work, for example: subtitles.

I recorded a program from TV, becouse I want to see it later with subtitles, but when I push the video to my TV (in this case is a virtual PC) the subtitles doesnt show up. The plugin is a filter named VSFilter.dll and this is just for showing subtitles

Here you can see, how the subtitles are showed right in the current PC, but in the other device, the subtitles are missing

Please, I know than you dont care about people out of the US, but please fix this :)

Here's another example, but this time Im using RC in both computers, please fix this

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Fri, 03 Jul 2009 03:30:26 Z

"I am BEGGING you Microsoft, please add this OPTION before you release Win8:

We should at least have the OPTION to flip through the windows
as the icon is CLICKED.

I am aware that holding ctrl does this. One, that's a bullcrap solution. Two, this does nothing for tablet users."

For more on this topic, My full, original TechNet post:
http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-CA/w7itproui/thread/0bc9401e-f1bd-4c29-9768-ab92592987c4
My full blog post:
http://fromthesoftwarecritic.blogspot.com/2009/06/windows-7s-taskbar-is-disaster.html
A very shoddy hack to solve this (ruins touch input to start)
http://www.ocellated.com/2009/06/04/taskbar-overlord/

Also, sending out a big NO for "Kira Style"'s suggestion.

Nice, this is a good feature

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Fri, 03 Jul 2009 06:06:02 Z

You're talking about the Network & Sharing Center, right?

Find your network there (my UI isn't English, but you should be able to find everything ;))

This will get you to the window where you choose home/work/public network type.
Regards,
Kristaps.

P.S.: Epic shoop is epic.

This post is an answer to my DELETED post. Why?

I'm not so stupid ;) The second network adapter says Public network, but is not clickable.

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Fri, 03 Jul 2009 07:33:35 Z

Please give users the ability to disable the thumbnails preview of the taskbar.

Thanks

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Fri, 03 Jul 2009 09:26:41 Z

I've got a comment on the taskbar notification area. To the hidden notification icons, when clicked or double clicked, the small window won't disappear. For me this is very annoying, since the application that I need to open has already opened, the notification icon window still is in front of all the other windows. I wish it fades out after I clicked on an icon.

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Fri, 03 Jul 2009 09:33:16 Z

i highlight a few files and it should show me number selected, total file size etc. for some reason in the RC every now and then it asks me to 'click here to view details' or something like that. cant say exactly what since that now i've clicked it, it doesn't do it anymore. it will come back though. always has done before.

gotta ask, anyone else feel like microsoft did a good job with win7 but left the cretins who thought that:

a - clippy would be a good addition to office, and
b - that stupid damn dog search thing in XP
c - don't understand that even if in theory something is a good idea, people may not like it and should have the option to have things laid out how *we* like.

.... loose on the OS and add a load of small annoyances in there? i sure do.

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Fri, 03 Jul 2009 09:40:07 Z

actually, damn thing just came back. quote

"21 items selected"
then a clicky that says:

"Show more details..." ick. please please please let me turn this off. who on earth thought this was a good addition?

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Fri, 03 Jul 2009 11:39:01 Z

Only libraries are pinnable to Explorer's Jump List???

What about folders for specific projects? Or Computer, USB drives, or Recycle bin, etc? The Favorites list in Explorer’s sidebar can only practically hold so much, while a useful Explorer jump list should be doing a LOT! Get real, and replace the "Frequent" section with "Recent".

Update:

Thank you all for your trying to help. Here is how I found the solution, an obviousness flaw. Hopefully (though doubtfully) this will be fixed.

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Fri, 03 Jul 2009 15:12:15 Z

http://www.windows7taskforce.com/view/2822

Language Bar docked in the taskbar very ugly

Problem:
Language Bar docked in the taskbar very ugly.

Solution:
keep pixel-height interval consistency.

view screenshot:
http://www.windows7taskforce.com/thumb/languagebar_docked_pixel_width_interval.png/x/560

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Fri, 03 Jul 2009 15:24:16 Z

Please don't assume that your example and angst speaks for everyone. Again, this is totally a matter of perspective and assumes that what you find inconvenient is true for the world. I regularly have an array of Word, Excel. Acrobat, and other app windows open and find the way it is setup to be intuitive and incredibly elegant (not a word I often use about a Microsoft OS). My bet is this is the way it is, and they have't done anything for the very small number of people complaining, because it is something they got out of their focus groups during design. In response to "CAN YOU IMAGINE THE NIGHT MARE?????": I can beat that 20 docs and 6 pdfs most days and no I cannot. There is no reason to assume that everyone will look at your example and see a disaster meriting the all caps yelling. Of course, if you compare this to the more basic implementation of Aero in Vista, and the lack of any comparable functionality in XP, the world is coming to an end stuff also sure seems a bit over the top. What did you do before? Finally, the taskbar functionality constitutes a pretty major re-write from Vista. I seriously doubt the code change here would be as simple as the small number of vocal complainers think it would be. Even if there was a need to do this, about which I disagree, do it in a SP 1 or a functionality enhancement pack.

Stephen

and don't YOU assume to speak for everyone else. I and many others have complained about the same thing, to no avail. I don't bother any more for the same reason I don't repeatedly bang my head against the wall. They haven't changed it and they aren't going to, barring Bill Gates himself ripping somebody.

And it's perfectly acceptable to use caps for emphasis, no worse than using bold. It's only bad netiquette if you use all caps for the entire post.

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Fri, 03 Jul 2009 17:08:38 Z

You know what is truly sad? That Microsoft just ignores all the great ideas over here, like they didn't care at all.
Some idea examples (most of these listed are mine, some of them are just made up, but that does not matter)...

So how exactly do you know they have just ignored all of the "great ideas?" There has been precisely one public beta and one RC. Personally, I don't think they are all great ideas, but leaving that aside, most of the stuff you've listed are tied to either taskbar or Aero functionality. Since these elements of the OS work, and since they have established a schedule for releasing the OS, I think it makes perfect sense to to address enhancements in SP1, or some sort of enhancement pack. Unless you have contacts on the developer team, you are making a big assumption about what Microsoft has ignored and what they have not....

Stephen

Actually I was surprised at how much the developer teams first with Vista and now with Windows 7 HAVE been ignoring the suggestions of the people who use their OS. We have a huge organization and have Microsoft Site licenses for most of their products. We have made reasonable requests with the Beta of Vista to fix the problems that made it inoperable in a Domain Environment and not only were they ignored for Windows Vista release but for Windows 7 too.

Luckily I was able to "hack" back most of the XP functionality that was removed from Vista/Windows 7.

Despite having a site license for Vista and Windows 7 when it will be released we still run Windows XP by choice simply because so far the new OS provide less functionality in a domain environment.

Yes they do have more "Gui bells and whistles" than Windows XP but as a network administrator I don't care about that. I just need an OS that runs properly with mandatory roaming profiles and security (like no access to browsing the network) where Domain Administrators are "real admins". We don't need an OS designed to protect home users from themselves.

I was worried about this transfer of priority from business users to home users when XP Home was first released. Until then Business OS were designed for Business. Luckily XP was designed for business with a home version unlike Vista and Windows 7 which are designed for home users with "business" just tacked on for good measure.

Cheers,
Lara

lforbes

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Fri, 03 Jul 2009 18:24:29 Z

We don't need an OS designed to protect home users from themselves.

ROFL, so true! :'(

...

It's sad when you start to think about it.

Regards,
Kristaps.

P.S.: Epic shoop is epic.

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Fri, 03 Jul 2009 19:01:55 Z

Actually Daghead, you can.

Just drag whatever folder you want (USB drive, Computer, Recycle Bin) to the taskbar, and it ends up in the Explorer Jump List. The special folders even keep their special attributes (you can right-click the Recycle Bin in the Jump List to empty it).

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Fri, 03 Jul 2009 19:09:53 Z

This post is an answer to my DELETED post. Why?

DrG: Your post is here. You got a vote. :)

Thanks. I don't see it yesterday. Maybe because of the strange behavior of this forum software....

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Fri, 03 Jul 2009 21:16:59 Z

Hi IT Juggler,

Might be a silly question, but I'm asking to doublecheck. As far as I understand Win7 recognizes your PCI-Ex (2 monitors) + PCI (1 monitor) = 3 monitors except this UAC prompt problem. Right ?

Thanks,
Faruk

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Fri, 03 Jul 2009 21:40:29 Z

Daghead, have you tried dragging one of the links to the taskbar? Or dragging an Explorer folder to the taskbar? Or dragging the icon from the breadcrumb bar to the taskbar? Or navigating around for a while until Windows Explorer creates a MFU then clicking the pin icon?

MRU > MFU in Explorer because folders are created and destroyed by users all the time.

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Fri, 03 Jul 2009 21:55:37 Z

It's even worse if taskbar is vertical xD

Why can't Language Bar be a regular notification icon ?? It'd use regular amount of space and benefit from new notification area.

:(

Regards,
Kristaps.

P.S.: Epic shoop is epic.

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Fri, 03 Jul 2009 22:00:12 Z

MFU = Mildly Frustrated User? xD

Disclaimer: Yes, I know that it's Most Frequently Used :)

Regards,
Kristaps.

P.S.: Epic shoop is epic.

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Fri, 03 Jul 2009 22:39:56 Z

You know what is truly sad? That Microsoft just ignores all the great ideas over here, like they didn't care at all.
Some idea examples (most of these listed are mine, some of them are just made up, but that does not matter):

The big Taskbar clock

Clicking on Taskbar item w/ many windows the most recent window is opened

"Eject " button in Task Pane when looking inside removable drives

Middle-click on "Show Desktop " activates Flip3D

Improved "turn system icons on and off" panel (drop-downs for booleans? ever heard of checkboxes?)

Change volume w/ scroll wheel when hovered over volume tray icon

Visually connect thumbnails and Taskbar items

Jump lists in shown "All Programs"

"Enter " w/ just opened Start Menu opens "All Programs"

Pin anything (folder, file, whatever) to Taskbar

Horizontal Taskbar overflow , with scrollwheel/touch sliding

I could go on and on for hours, but it's not like MS cares :'-(

Well, we still have hope in RC1. At least I hope so.

Regards,
Kristaps.

P.S.: Epic shoop is epic.

· Clicking on Taskbar item w/ many windows the most recent window is opened

Truly. Really Important. I installed two windows 7 on guinea pig mode, and both got very angry on it. I was asked to downgrade the last computer again to XP sp3.

· "Eject " button in Task Pane when looking inside removable drives

At least is possible to configure it to be always visible. It should be default.

· Middle-click on "Show Desktop " activates Flip3D

Nice idea. Although I find Flip3D pretty useless.

…

· Change volume w/ scroll wheel when hovered over volume tray icon

Agree.

· Horizontal Taskbar overflow , with scrollwheel /touch sliding

Somewhat agree. Would be nice to have it as option, although I know that it would be confusing if left as default behavior.

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Fri, 03 Jul 2009 22:42:44 Z

Btw, when there are multiple files selected in Windows Explorer, the right-click menu lacks "Open With..." submenu
Regards,
Kristaps.

P.S.: Epic shoop is epic.

that issue is incredibely important to me.

I don't understand at all why that restriction is applied

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Fri, 03 Jul 2009 22:48:13 Z

The best part: it is there in XP [checked]. Probably was in Vista too.

Introducing Win7: We'll just keep cutting somewhat-essential features so the thing runs faster! Yay!

Regards,
Kristaps.

P.S.: Epic shoop is epic.

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Fri, 03 Jul 2009 22:56:50 Z

Seeing all the comments, even name-calling and profanity, reminds me why I switched to Mac 2 years ago and never looked back. New OS upgrades for $39 next month, only one solid. stable OS that works, every time, networks that find everything hooked up to them automatically the first time, routers that actually work, it all just works, and works well.

I downloaded RC 7 and it's pretty, and boots fast, but then there's the driver issues, and the connectivity issues, and the vendor issues, and the multiple versions of Win 7, and ......

If, as one poster here said "... Win 7 is like crack...." well, just say no.

MAC OS simply don't works on 99,9999% of the hardware.

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Fri, 03 Jul 2009 23:00:43 Z

What driver issues? My laptop (arguably the harder things to find drivers for) works flawlessly and the drivers were installed without any intervention on my part.

What connectivity issues? I've had no issues whatsoever.

Vendor issues? That's Microsoft's fault? Although even still, I've not had any issues.

Multiple versions is good because my grandmother doesn't need domain control and enterprise business features, I'd hate for her to buy those. Even if it was the same cost, she doesn't need that running on her computer.

If you've had tangible issues, let us know.

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Fri, 03 Jul 2009 23:16:56 Z

What driver issues? What connectivity issues? What vendor issues (self-built ftw)?

Do you see "Mac fanboys hatin' on Windows" written all over the title bar? Do ya!?

Relevant content or GTFO.

Regards,
Kristaps.

P.S.: Epic shoop is epic.

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Fri, 03 Jul 2009 23:22:33 Z

Ty :)

At least is possible to configure it to be always visible.

It is? o_O Tell me more pls.

Nice idea. Although I find Flip3D pretty useless.

Then choose between Flip3D, alt+tab and something else (Switcher or some other Expose-clone ^^)

Daaaaaamn, if I could activate Switcher w/ middle-click on Show Desktop, it'd be so great...

Regards,
Kristaps.

P.S.: Epic shoop is epic.

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Fri, 03 Jul 2009 23:23:15 Z

Windows 7 seems to handle Meta data differently than Windows XP and Vista. Microsoft needs to fix it. Its either the operating system or its possibly the applications i am using to modify the meta data for my nusic files. for some reason when i use Music match under Windows 7, it thinks the "Contributing Artist" meta data tag is the "Album Artist" meta data tag. and if i type an entry in the "Album artist" meta data tag Music Match will not pick it up. and Yahoo Music Jukebox has a similar issue. If you import a song into that application with no "Contributing Artist" the song title will be used as the "Album Artist", even if you have something in the "Album artist" meta data tag. these windows 7 issues need to be fixed and now. i think these meta data issues may exist in other applications as well, but i do not really use anything other than those tweo applications and Windows media player 12 for playing, editing, and importing music.

P.S. oddly enough iTunes iTunes is one of the 3rd party applications that i tested that does not get the issue. I guess they are updating it to work with Windows 7.

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Fri, 03 Jul 2009 23:34:55 Z

A nice feature would be "Automatically delete files who have been in Recycle Bin for 3/7/14/30/whatever days"

Regards,
Kristaps.

P.S.: Epic shoop is epic.

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Fri, 03 Jul 2009 23:38:19 Z

P.S. oddly enough iTunes iTunes is one of the 3rd party applications that i tested that does not get the issue.

iTunes has been using its own library for a long time. It only uses metadata when you first import the file into the library.

Regards,
Kristaps.

P.S.: Epic shoop is epic.

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Fri, 03 Jul 2009 23:40:37 Z

Ty :)

At least is possible to configure it to be always visible.

It is? o_O Tell me more pls.
...A

click on the "arrow"/piramid on the taskbar, then Customize..., then choose "Show icon and notifications"

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Sat, 04 Jul 2009 01:35:07 Z

As you know there are 5 steps to installing W7 RC.

During step 3 (Expanding windows files) it had completed 471 of 2200 files. At step 472, I saw a message that the computer needed to be restarted. The process tried 3 times to complete this procedure and failed to shut down and restart as required.

After approx 1 - 2 minutes, I received a message stating "windows installation could not continue because a required driver could not be installed."

I tried to install W7 4 times, and it failed all 4 times at step # 472 of 2200

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Sat, 04 Jul 2009 02:23:07 Z

Oh, you mean the icon in notification area. I never use that :P

Regards,
Kristaps.

P.S.: Epic shoop is epic.

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Sat, 04 Jul 2009 08:26:58 Z

Hi

I am looking for a driver for the Technotrend TT-Premium C-2300 DVB-C TV Card.

The old driver delivered with the card only works with Windows XP, Technotrend does not develop a new driver.

With the old Driver Windows 7 crashes.

On the other hand, Ubuntu completely support the card.

Has anyone an idea?

Thanks a lot!

By the way, there are a lot of hardware problems with windows 7.

Thanks a lot :-)

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Sat, 04 Jul 2009 18:34:41 Z

Why is this? When I change the channel or change the SSID of my wireless network router, computers running Windows 7 are the slowest to detect the new network. Even if you press the refresh button... Two of my laptops run Windows 7.

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Sat, 04 Jul 2009 18:47:38 Z

I agree 110%. Win7 is so dissapointing in not carrying a mail client. I don't like web mail.

The only good thing about Vista was Windows Mail! I'm trying Thunderbird and don't like it much. Outlook seems a mess.

For those who are into functions rather than features lets have a good embedded email.

Other than that - and so far - 7 looks AOK

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Sat, 04 Jul 2009 21:33:34 Z

BUG: Windows Live Mail. This program is a bug itself (I miss Outlook Express) but a bug that Microsoft can consider: IT ALMOST NEVER ENDS BY ITSELF!!!!! I hate this program.

Prehistoric BUG: Since Windows 3.0, have you try to cancel a printing work and get immediate effect? No, of course. Well, Windows 7 have the same anti-user feature.

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Sat, 04 Jul 2009 21:52:38 Z

Let me rephrase that:

Prehistoric BUG: Since Windows 3.0, have you try to cancel anything and get immediate effect? No, of course. Well, Windows 7 have the same anti-user feature.

Printing; copy/cut/paste, delete -- anything

Regards,
Kristaps.

P.S.: Epic shoop is epic.

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Sat, 04 Jul 2009 22:08:34 Z

What do you mean Kristaps? You can't cancel your copy&paste operation? Here's how:

1. Copy Something (press Ctrl+C). If you want to cancel, step 2 is easy:
2. Don't paste it. You will notice that nothing gets pasted, and there is no delay.

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Delete takes time to cancel because it may have already moved most of the file when you click cancel. If it was to just throw its hands up and cancel immediately, you'd end up with corrupt data. This happens on every operating system.

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Sat, 04 Jul 2009 22:30:48 Z

Windows Live Mail.

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Sat, 04 Jul 2009 22:38:39 Z

1st part does not apply, since then I'm not actually copying anything ^^

Didn't know about data corruption though. That explains a lot. Thx :)
However, canceling pasting/deletion in-process was a lot faster in XP :P

Regards,
Kristaps.

P.S.: Epic shoop is epic.

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Sun, 05 Jul 2009 02:44:04 Z

Windows 7 still goes into sleep mode when downloading any kind of file from the internet (updates, etc.) or doing purely HDD intensive operations (e.g. defrag) if automatic sleep is enabled in the power plan (which it is in the default Balanced power plan). It appears that, like with XP and Vista, windows is only checking CPU % usage and user activity to determine whether to automatically go into sleep mode. What it should actually check is CPU % usage, user input, sustained HDD activity and sustained network activity .

This seems like a fairly simple feature to implement, and it's very frustrating to have to disable power management whenever downloading large files or defragging and then enable it again afterward (I often end up forgetting to re-enable it).

I really hope this gets fixed in the final release. This has been a Windows problem ever since power management was implemented and it seems ridiculous to have to think for your computer every time you do something that doesn't require much CPU and then leave your computer idle for a few minutes.

If you don't fix this at least make it easier to disable and enable sleep. I'm getting tired of clicking on the battery icon (on a notebook) then selecting "more power options," waiting for the window to load, then clicking the button to change settings for the power plan active, and then clicking "save changes." Ideally, like I said before, it would be better to detect sustained HDD and network activity so the user doesn't have to manually put the computer to sleep when large downloads are finished.

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Sun, 05 Jul 2009 02:56:13 Z

Another power related issue: clicking on the battery icon in the system tray (on notebooks) only shows two power plans, "balanced" and "power saver." If you create a custom plan for either and activate it, it sometimes shows up with the battery icon but only after replacing the original plan which you created it from. I was increasingly frustrated with this issue in Vista because I liked making several custom plans based on power saver to control maximum CPU % when plugged in (e.g. 100% with active cooling to install programs faster, 50% or 100% and passive cooling to keep the notebook fan quieter and cool down the overall computer when using it on my lap). Instead of forcing one of each plan (excluding high performance) to show up when clicking on the battery icon, it should show the top 4-5 (or some other user-customizable amount) most frequently used power plans in the list, regardless of which plan they were created from .

The second part is equally frustrating because I often end up using customizations of the power saving plan most of the time (during weekdays), except when I'm playing resource-intensive games (occasionally on weekends), so I would rather have several of my customizations of the power saver plan show up when clicking on the battery icon rather than the Balanced plan and one of my power saver derivations.

Again, this seems like a relatively simple implementation that would save a lot of time and frustration when switching power plans. I realize that it would make the menu a bit larger, but in my opinion it would definitely be worth it (especially since the menu only shows for a short time while switching power plans).

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Sun, 05 Jul 2009 10:02:21 Z

When you install Windows 7 (RC) onto an exisiting NTFS partition the default option is that this partition is not reformatted. This could be a mistake.

I and others have noticed that if you install Windows 7 onto a partition already NTFS formatted using Acronis True Image then (if the installation succeeds) you will begin to see disk errors. Chkdsk will run but fail to fix the errors. The symptoms look very like those of a faulty hard disk but all such problems go away if you choose the option to reformat the partition during Windows 7 installation. Enough users have reported the same problem for it to be certain that Acronis True Image is to blame. But since it is possible that other disk partitioning and formatting software might give rise to the same problem and since the symptoms give little clue as to the root cause, I feel that the Windows 7 installation procedure should be modified to encourage the user to reformat the partition where there is no data to be preserved.

For more details, refer to this thread http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=241388

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Sun, 05 Jul 2009 13:07:06 Z

I just loaded Windows 7RC on my Dell XPS system. I created a dual boot so I could easily boot to Windows XP. I have to say the installation process was flawless. I had one issue wil the Creative audio driver, but Creative had the driver for Windows 7 and all is working great. I have been going through some of the features and have had no issues except for getting the Accept license agreement every time you opened any application within Office. A posting on Application forum received the answer within 8 hours.

Other wise, no crashes or other unexpected problems. I will keep using and reporting any issues noted. This might be the system to keep me using PC's

Thanks

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Sun, 05 Jul 2009 13:17:02 Z

I thought that already was a feature?

...

Oh no, it's if it gets to a certain size, if I recall 98 correctly. :/

da page :B

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Sun, 05 Jul 2009 13:20:44 Z

With the amount of space I'm using on the "superbar"; you'd think they'd dump "Toolbars" altogether and make the things notifications. I've already mentioned about this in relation to the tablet pc panel "toolbar". It's not even a toolbar . It's more like an icon. Hence the "panel" name. The language bar is much the same problem.

da page :B

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Sun, 05 Jul 2009 13:28:37 Z

I agree with this. Also there should be the option to change the colours of the "Basic" theme, or provide other colours pre-set.

Light blue for everything? Eh. Aero? Aero doesn't always provide quite the right colour scheme I want - it might be its gradient style, because I think a black version of the basic gradients of Basic would be nice. Hey... I'm picky about my GUIs. XD

da page :B

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Sun, 05 Jul 2009 13:40:20 Z

Libraries are a nice feature, though they're also limiting, and shouldn't be dominant over the user folder.

In Vista, the user folder would appear beside some programs' open/save dialogues - this is now replaced by the "Libraries". There's no apparent way to customise this menu either - and no, I'm not talking about the "Links" directory. The only program that comes to mind right now that uses this kind of dialogue is Photoshop, but if you need more explanation - it's the side menu that uses about 4 large 32x32 icons. Recent Places, Desktop, [Username]/Libraries, Computer, Network.

Not all programs have this, and thankfully some have an option for their own dialogues (Photoshop CS3 and Paint Tool SAI), but those which don't resort me to having to create a library for something that could be just as easily accessed from my user folder.

That brings me to the next point. Under My Documents I have a Websites folder for my web design and creation. I can't create a Websites Library - because it's already in a library. I like to keep my user folder root tidy (the latter folders are debatable...), so I don't intend to move it.

Overall they seem like a nice idea, but too outweighed by usability limiting issues at this time.

da page :B

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Sun, 05 Jul 2009 19:45:55 Z

About that ^ dialog: there is a huge problem when viewing a library with multiple included folders -- these included folders aren't separated in any way - everything's just mashed together , without any separation or grouping or anything, which is awful.

If I were MS, I would banish this dialog altogether and force-replace it with the new one.

Regards,
Kristaps.

P.S.: Epic shoop is epic.

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Sun, 05 Jul 2009 21:36:47 Z

There should be an option to assign hotkeys to magnify in and out for the built-in magnifier program. It is annoying to have to click the + and - buttons on the program to zoom in and out each time, especially when zoomed in more than 200 or 300%.

Also the preview full screen button should preview the screen for a user-adjustable amount of time or just keep showing the entire screen until the user clicks somewhere. I don't like it automatically zooming in to a part of the screen after 2-3 seconds (it quickly gets annoying).

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Sun, 05 Jul 2009 22:02:14 Z

WinKey + =
Zoom In

WinKey + -
Zoom Out

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Sun, 05 Jul 2009 22:29:18 Z

Your files are arranged in this order:
FolderA.folders
FolderA.files
FolderB.folder
...

The problem with this, of course, is that (assuming the default folder is FolderA) FolderB cannot be used to save files in directly through the library. You'll need to save then drag and drop in the window (assuming you are using "Folder" view) or cut/paste between the actual folders.

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Sun, 05 Jul 2009 23:36:27 Z

Still, they should be visually separated (new column, a line, or something)

And yes, the 2nd one is an even bigger issue.

Regards,
Kristaps.

P.S.: Epic shoop is epic.

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Sun, 05 Jul 2009 23:44:19 Z

Middle-click-to-close-window (like with taskbar live thumbnails) is not working in alt+tab window. However, it should be.

Regards,
Kristaps.

P.S.: Epic shoop is epic.

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Mon, 06 Jul 2009 00:01:35 Z

I wouldn't know about replacing the dialogue; but what's the point in the libraries in the first place? Does it put all user Documents/Pictures/Videos etc. in one area? That doesn't seem particularly secure, because user's personal documents are... well, personal . Or is it collating together all "My [x]" folders? Not particularly secure again if you've got backups stored somewhere that you want to stay separate unless you specifically browse to that directory.

I agree that mashing them all together like that is more trouble than it's worth. It's not organised.

They're a nice idea - but I'll never find them of use myself. I much preferred going to my user folder. Maybe an option to hide them from these menus and Explorer?

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Mon, 06 Jul 2009 01:03:45 Z

Jabbi -

Libraries don't relocate ANY of your files. It's merely a means to catagorize them. You can have any number of folders, located on any number of drives, with any number of files contained in them and the purpose of Libraries is to make them easily accessible.

For instance, you can have the following folders in a library:

C:\Party Pics
E:\Nikon stuff\June 2009
F:\My Kids\Pics\Fred\March 2009
H:\Archives\Grandma Smith\Christmas 2008
H:\Archives\Grandpa Jones\July 4th\Uncle Sam

And all of the pics in those folders would stay put. But you can go through the list in the Libraries | Pictures section and browse each folder and it's contents, open them, move them, delete them, etc...

It's LIKE moving all of those pictures into one folder - without actually doing so.

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Mon, 06 Jul 2009 01:45:33 Z

I use Windows Photo Gallery in Windows Vista. I prefer it to Picasa because I like the layout better. Anyway Windows Libraries actually work the same way as the Gallery does.

I actually FAR prefer Libraries to the Vista way of doing things. It is "easy" so show Libraries folder on the desktop but the hack to show My Documents is a lot more difficult.

The only hangup is the hacking involved to use Libraries with Folder redirection although I think I have got it to work even with indexing disabled on the server and locally. (indexing is useless in a domain again with 2500 users with millions of files)

Cheers,
Lara

lforbes

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Mon, 06 Jul 2009 02:25:56 Z

Jabbi -

Libraries don't relocate ANY of your files. It's merely a means to catagorize them. You can have any number of folders, located on any number of drives, with any number of files contained in them and the purpose of Libraries is to make them easily accessible.

For instance, you can have the following folders in a library:

C:\Party Pics
E:\Nikon stuff\June 2009
F:\My Kids\Pics\Fred\March 2009
H:\Archives\Grandma Smith\Christmas 2008
H:\Archives\Grandpa Jones\July 4th\Uncle Sam

And all of the pics in those folders would stay put. But you can go through the list in the Libraries | Pictures section and browse each folder and it's contents, open them, move them, delete them, etc...

It's LIKE moving all of those pictures into one folder - without actually doing so.

i do not like using the libraries in Windows 7. i found away to make it so that i do not have to use libraries. besides if i am using them i cannot customize them in certain ways. like change their icon and whatnot.

for when viewing files normally i do not always care if i am viewing Windows Explorer in libraries mode or not, but if i am backing up my PC i perfer if Libraries view is disables at the moment so that i do not accedentally copy unwanted files to my backup drives. i do not like using software that does the backup automaticly for you. the last time i used software for that it messed up certain things on my PC and yet that software was vista certified.....

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Mon, 06 Jul 2009 06:47:23 Z

There should be an option to permanently set a program's priority. I noticed some lag in games I work on using my game creation tool, lag that wasn't there in an earlier Seven install. Despite this my idle memory usage is the same.

In any case; I tried changing the priority of the .exe running the game to High; and it ran smoothly. However I don't want to have to start up the task manager each time I use a certain program that needs it. I should be able to set the priority and have it stay that way.

I have 3GB of RAM... I want some programs to actually take advantage of this.

da page :B

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Mon, 06 Jul 2009 06:52:18 Z

I think priority has more to do with processor time than memory allocation. In any case, if you're seeing delays you weren't before you should look at your installed and running applications as well as your current driver set.

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Mon, 06 Jul 2009 12:38:44 Z

You can use Prio - it's a small program that integrates with Task Manager and lets you save the priority.

Regards,
Kristaps.

P.S.: Epic shoop is epic.

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Mon, 06 Jul 2009 13:03:27 Z

Is it compatable with Seven? The install keeps hanging near the end at 'Execute "C:\Program Files\Prio\prioinst.exe" di'

Oh never mind, it's installed. I just had to kill the installer, but 'Save Priority' is now an option. :D

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Mon, 06 Jul 2009 13:08:24 Z

Ah, it appears you're right. My processor drivers are up to date, so it's not that... maybe I just didn't notice it before. (Man; I ought to use my old Acer Aspire as some sort of second tester for odd Seven behaviour.)

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Mon, 06 Jul 2009 13:56:46 Z

How to temporarily stop WMC from stuttering when it toggles between window and full-screen modes:

Usually, whenever I toggle WMC between window mode and fullscreen mode (in either direction), the video and sound will pause for a half second or more (when watching live or recorded SD or HD TV, or playing a DVD; in contrast, WMP and PowerDVD do not have that problem).

I have discovered how to make the problem stop temporarily.

1) Run WMC in window mode, with WMC as the active window.

2) Wait until the screensaver (Bubbles) engages, with WMC still the active window. (The screensaver timeout interval can be as little as 1 minute.)

3) Move the mouse to stop the screensaver.

Now, WMC toggles properly between window mode and fullscreen mode (until I exit WMC; the problem is back again when I restart it).

Obviously, WMC should be able to toggle properly without having to engage the screensaver first as a workaround.

GA-P35-DS3Lr2(F8) Q9450 OCZ8500(4GB) GTX260(WDDM1.1/186.18 WHQL) 3xWDGreenPower(1TB)SATA

WinTV1600 GGW-H20L 3007WFP(2560x1600) 6.1.7100x64 Avast4.8.1335 PowerDVD7.3.5113.0

(I've also seen this problem on other Windows 7 PCs with different hardware. But I haven't tested the wokaround on those PCs.)

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Mon, 06 Jul 2009 16:20:32 Z

Dialog boxes and alike have frozen their parent windows since, like, Win95, and I don't see this behavior changing for a long time.

From user's oppinion, it's annoying, but for developers it might actually be useful (like, you must choose yes/no, and you mustn't close the parent window)
Regards,
Kristaps.

P.S.: Epic shoop is epic.

Hello Kristaps! :-)

I agree. It could be useful (convenient?) to choose yes/no before closing a window. But I would like to just move/minimize it! (Not close).

If say:
-CD burned OK, then: close burner, close Freecell, shutdown Windows.
-CD burn failed, then: burn again, play another Freecell game.
-CD burn not yet finished, then: play another Freecell game.

I want to get rid of the Freecell window just for a while to look at other(s) window(s) and THEN decide if yes/no to close.
In Linux systems it´s as easy as change to another desktop. But in Windows we are stucked to only one desktop and in that only one desktop the Freecell window is stucked preventing to see others windows clearly and decide afterwards. :-(

Hasta la vista!
Fernando.

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Mon, 06 Jul 2009 18:53:39 Z

This is my experience with the install and impression so far with Windows 7 Ultimate RC.

First my goal was to have dual boot XP and Win 7 and my system is:
My XP Pro install is 32bit.
My Win7 Ultimate RC install is 64bit.

Intel e8400 wolfdale
eVGA 780i motherboard
4 gig of 800mhz RAM
2x Nvidia 8800 GTX 512mb Video cards
2x Samsung Spinpoint 750g 7200rpm 3g drives
1x Raptor 80g 7200rpm 3g drive
Blue Gears B Inspire 7.1 sound card
30" NEC 3090WQXI-BK LCD

I moved all the data from one 750g drive to give Win7 its own space.

First Gotcha:
-After booting from DVD i noticed 1st that all the GUI based disk tools were greyed out for all disks other than the primary XP OS disk.
-Any disk i picked other than the one with my XP install would give me a "could not install on a dynamic disk" message (thats a synopsis not exact text).
-I logged back into my XP install and deleted the partitions on that drive but leaving it unformatted.
-I attempted to install again; same issue; greyed out drive config tools and "could not install on dynamic disk" message.
-I logged back into my XP install and configured the drive as simple but unformatted and tried again with the same results.
-Finally i decided to try the "repair" option on the Win 7 installed DVD which provided a command prompt option.
-Using the command prompt option i was able to access diskpart; selected the drive for Win7, deleted volumes, assigned letter and BAM! install worked.

The install was amazingly fast!
Once it was kicked off it couldnt have been more than 20 minutes before i was logged into the desktop.
The only driver that i needed to install manually was for my bluegears b-Enspirer 7.1 Channels 24-bit 192KHz PCI Interface Sound Card...I downloaded the Vista 64bit drivers and directed Win7 to the install folder. The sound card was immediately installed and works as expected.

Second gotcha:
-When configuring Win7 i choose the same name as my XP config for network presence (my router looks at MAC and Netbios name to permit internal and external access).
-Windows XP did not like this and hid all but the boot drive when i relogged after completing the Win7 install.
-The error was "name already exists" and i could not reactivate or import foreign drives.
-The fix was simple however; deleted a Reg Key HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\dmio\Boot Info\Primary Disk Group. After deleting "Primary Disk Group" i rebooted; this forces XP to rebuild your disk identity group and the disks were again available as expected.

Now i have a dualboot 32bit XP pro sp3 and 64bit Win 7 Ultimate RC.
Everything appears to have the drivers installed.
My SLI dual video is work properly.
Sound is working.

My initial impressions are WOW! Win 7 is much faster in boot; manipulation and online than my XP pro install.
I have only tried one non MS "App" so far (ok: game) and it even seems faster.

My system score is 5.9 w/the weak link being indicated as my SATA /3g drive.

It could be my imagination but even internet access seems faster.
Using both IE8 and Firefox 3 on XP i ran 10 speed tests with an average of 12m DL and 3m UL.
Using both IE8 and Firefox 3 on Win7 i ran 10 speed tests with an average of 16m DL and 3.3 UL.
I repeated this test twice with similar results.

Impressions after a week of use:

I am still very impressed with the performance of 64bit Windows 7 Ultimate RC.

I have run the MS update without a hitch.

I have installed Java (choosing the 64bit Vista version as it didnt detect Win 7 and recommended XP 32bit). My java bases apps work without complaint.

Switching internet connections from my personal router directly comcast cable modem required me to configure a new network before granting access. I can see this as both a positive and a negative but it wasnt immediately clear what was preventing external access. After about 10min of digging and scanning menus however it was easily resolved.

I have installed my Office 2007 pro without issue. Word and Excel basic functionality work as expected.

I have installed Visual Studio 2008 professional without issue though i have not used it in depth yet.

I really like the way the task bar is setup up with the exception of the quicklaunch. I am still trying to get the XP/Vista functionality there but havent really looked too hard into it. It is not enable the same way the previous versions are (right click Start button> Properties>etc...). MS may have done away with it.

The task manager is a much more useful tool now; you have the same functionality as before as well as a new tab for services that identifies the PID associated with its activity and the networking monitor gives more information regarding connection activity.
This new builtin GUI based functionality will be very useful to desktop support / home support users (this functionality exists in one form or another from the command line).

I installed Firefox 3 without issue and it appears to function as expected.

My Harmony 1000 universal remote software is acting a bit odd in that it keeps reporting lost connectivity when moving from one page to the next during a configuration session.
In reviewing Logitec's website this appears to be something on thier end (a bug in the version of java they chose and embedded in thier application) and not related to Windows 7.

My Logitec G13 KB extender was detected and works.

Overall updates and installs have worked out smoothly; often detecting Windows 7 as the host OS.

Upcoming tests over the next week:

Install Virtual Server and import some MOSS VMs.

Configuration the system to use a second language.

Open sharing with my XBox 360

On the fly drive / partition modifications.

Play around with bit locker.

Do a full backup and restore.

MCSE, MCSA, SCSA, etc...

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Mon, 06 Jul 2009 20:05:57 Z

Both 32bit version on my laptop as 64bit on the desktop were easy installed. I used a transfer to a USB stick wich makes installation very fast.
Tried to install OE 8(vista version) but it didn't work. Somewhere there was a message that the OE8 will be available later this year.

First impressions are also very good, however I hardly had any problems with Vista, but it seems that I'm an exetion.

Drewes55

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Mon, 06 Jul 2009 20:34:26 Z

Just my two penn'orth here. I have to say I like Windows 7 very much. That's very much in contrast to Vista, which I hated with a passion from the first use; my daughter's laptop was very quickly reverted to XP! I don't pretend to have fully explored 7 yet, but I've been running it about a month and I've had no problems.

I installed it on my main PC - yes, I know, but it was screwed anyway and I have plenty of others to play with if I need to. It installed nicely, found all the drivers, told me my graphics card is ____ (I know) but just got on with it. It found all my drivers except a few which it located online at first update.
I'm technically competent, as I teach ICT, and I like the way it allows me to do things my way without nursemaiding me through everything. One or two things were a bit of a learning curve from XP, but nothing I couldn't work out. The goalposts moved at one point - when I first installed it I moved the location of Documents to my D drive where they survive from my XP install - an update removed that method of doing things, though I worked out another way to do it. Similarly with my Favorites folder.

The only issue I've had at all was having to turn off UAC to be able to run my favoured mail/newsreader, Forte Agent, but that's my fault for using an old version; never found a suitable substitute, even in my Linux workstations. In that respect I'm glad that the dreaded Outlook Express has disappeared; I hated that and have been fortunate that I have never been forced to use it even at work. Oh, and it can't seem to find my card reader. It is pretty old.

I have now installed it on my younger daughter's alternative PC (she's a Linux fan but needs to run Windows applications); she will explore it further than I will, I have no doubt! But I have already made up my mind to move to the new OS; my main PC is aging so I plan to buy a new one in October when 7 is released. I know I could buy one now and get an upgrade, but that would mean putting up with Vista in the meantime; I'd rather wait! And it's unusual for me, as I have always liked to stick to "tried & tested", not jump at the latest new thing as it appears.

So thank you Microsoft; I'm sure you haven't got everything quite right yet, but it's way better than Vista ever was.

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Mon, 06 Jul 2009 22:28:44 Z

OE8 being Outlook Express?
I havent tried that but will tonight when i get home with posted results either later or tomorrow sometime.

MCSE, MCSA, SCNA, SCSA etc...

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Tue, 07 Jul 2009 01:01:30 Z

Regarding choices... One of the (long) list of reasons why Win7 is so much better for Average Joe than XP/Vista is the included choices for customizing appearances etc. But why can't I select a different file-format to work with in Sound Recorder? It looks like an oversight to me, but what if I don't want to record myself in 92 kbps WMA but rather uncompressed WAV? Or try out 8kHz mono IMA ADPCM, just for kicks? (You aren't telling me you're promoting Audacity, are you? ;) )

In all probability, for me XP is a keeper. I admit some excitement about Win7, but at the moment it isn't enough for me to migrate fully.

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Tue, 07 Jul 2009 01:45:24 Z

Oh, it seems it was due to my power settings. I increased the minimum processor rate (or something along those lines) and it seems to be fine now.

da page :B

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Tue, 07 Jul 2009 01:47:58 Z

I preferred the old Sound Recorder too, mainly because it wasn't just a sound recorder, but I used to also use it to compress WAVs.

Now I have Audacity so I no longer need it, but seeing what happened to the sound recorder in Vista was a bit of a unwelcome surprise. :/

da page :B

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Tue, 07 Jul 2009 04:40:07 Z

Maybe there's something wrong w/me ... I'm not really a techie, but I've owned computers for 20+ years and just use them a lot ... I really don't like the soft, fuzzy skins/interfaces. Perhaps you could provide more options including some hard, no fluff stuff, ones?

I'm a 63 year old person who isn't into fluff, bells and whistles. I bought a system w/6 gig ram so I could do all the things I wanted to do without waiting around years for a slow processor/system. I do like much of the additional functionality in Win 7RC, but ... why not let me choose the kinds of interfaces I work with?

Maybe set up a Microsoft App Store or some such thing. I'd gladly pay a buck or two to get things set up in more comfortable ways.

Thanks in advance.

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Tue, 07 Jul 2009 13:03:11 Z

I have been using windows 7 since the beta, and after RC, I removed my old XP 32 installation and have been using RC as my main operational system since them. It´s a very good, stable system, and I like it very much. But, I would like to point here lots of things that I miss from XP. I know windows is "done" RTM is just a week away, and my suggestions will never happen in RTM. But, maybe in a future SP or another patch, it could be useful. So, here is my list of:

Functionality Lost - From XP to Seven

1) WINDOWS EXPLORER:

For me, Windows 7 is an amazing system. It´s fast and reliable. But, using Windows explorer now, after using the one in Windows xp for years, just show me that the new explorer need lots of fixing. LOTS. It´s, for me, the worse part of the system.

A) In xp, the information provided by the status bar is much more useful than the one I have now, be it in the status bar or in the Details Pane.
If I´m exploring the contents of one folder, xp provides me the number of itens in that folder, the total file size (sum of all sizes in the folder) and the "location" if the files are stored in my computer or in a network.
NOW, all I have is the total number of itens. So, XP statusbar, with one single line, provides me 3 times more info than The new pane in 7, who took 3 or more lines, by default.
I agree if I select one single file the details pane info is amazing, but I really miss the total file size info in the bar. We don´t even have an option to put it in the status bar (hidden by default). So, status bar is just useless now.
There is no way to work with large amount of data if I always need to select all files just to check if they will, lets say, fit in a removable midia, or in another partition, or so on. The file size is so basic information, takes so little space and is so useful, that I can´t even imagine WHY it was left out of the bar! Its not asking much, to, at least, put a selection, avaible by right click, like "Show file sizes".
Worse yet, if I need to know the file sizes of more than 15 files, I have to click "Show more details". and if I select one more or de-select one of them, I need to click it again. And again and again, everytime the selection changes. Why can´t a modern operational system calculate this in a milisecound? Wait. a system from a decade ago (XP) could do that. The real question is: why WINDOWS 7 can´t do it?

I already read it´s removed because of the new way libraries work, putting multiple folder together. Ok, I can understand it, but not accept it.If Im inside a library, and it´s soooooooo hard to code something to show the file sizes in that specific place, just remove file sizes in the LIBRARY, not in almost every place of the new explorer. Or, just add a option to put the file sizes back, for the users who use it.

B) There is no more "up" button. We have breadcumb now, ok, but what if I WANT the up button? Is really that hard to make a option to put it back, if I want it?

C) Toolbar in explorer can no longer be customizable. If I don´t want the "Burn" button, I can´t remove it. If I want to put copy / past icons there, for easier use, I can´t. It´s the way it is, like it or not, the user can´t change it.

D) When working with multiple files in xp, I could past a lot of files in a folder, having them in the end of file list, work with them, and organize them the way I want. After having all set, I just hit F5 and all files are organizated. Now, explorer autosort the files. If I put a group of files in a folder with other files, they just get "sorted" and it´s much harder to find the files all over the old ones. And, again, there is no way to disable this "feature" that I don´t want.

E) If I select multiple file types, like a doc and a txt or xls, I can´t open all of them. The option is missing. I could do it in XP. Worse yet, there is no way to change permissions or security options for more than one file. We need to set it one at a time. In xp, it was possible and easy.

F) Users can not move / organize files freely in a folder anymore. I never used this, and I don´t like it, but I know there are people who use it, and they can not anymore. It´s a feature lost, so, even if I don´t use it, goes to the list.

G) In xp, when I start a move or copy operation, a dialog appears and I can see what I´m doing. Now, a dialog that appears don´t provide the basic info, like file names beeing moved. I need to click to "show more". Why do I have to click it always? Why this dialog can´t remember the way it was in the last use and keep it that way? Why I need (again) to click "SHOW IT TO ME" so I can see something that was always there?

H) Re-open folders in logon is gone.

I) Filmstrip view is gone.

J) List view now have a strange behavior. If the file name in the last column in a list can not fit the screen, all columns change position to the left, to let the user see the full name. BUT, it just disrupts the workflow and a file that was right under the mouse now is in the left column.
I miss the old good behaved list view we had in XP.

2) IMAGE IMPORTER

In windows xp, I plug my digital camera. A dialog window comes asking me to import my pictures, and I start the process. There is a really nice and useful little importer. I can select all the pictures I want, name it and save it.

What do we have now? A nothing useful importer, who just ask a tag, and imports ALL pictures. Why can´t I select what I WANT and DON´t WANT to import, anymore?

3) WINDOWS MEDIA PLAYER:
In xp, I could change tracks, volume, pause all from a nick wmpbar in the taskbar. Now, the WMP icon in the superbar gives ZERO possibilies. If I want to pause a song, I need to hover (or click) wmp icon, and pause in the preview. If I want to change the volume? NO WAY! I need to open the WMP window to do this simple action.

4) SOUND RECORDER:
It used to be a very versatile application. I always used it to convert wav´s to another format. Now, I can´t do that anymore. (In fact, it was the Jaabi´s post up there about this issue that motivated me to write all this).

5) TASKBAR (SUPERBAR)
With multiple windows of the same programs opened and grouped, I could click the icon to have the last active window in focus again. Now, I can´t. In fact, now, hovering a icon in superbar AND clicking a icon do the exactly same thing. Why clicking do the same as hovering? Imagine the mess if this "idea" becomes standard in the computer world? Come on, guys. Hover is hover, click is click. Two user actions, stands for two computer actions, not the same action. Just a matter of logic.

6) StartMenu

A) Classic start menu is gone. I don´t to use it, but I know lots of people do. It´s a lost feature, so, goes to the list.

B) When I click "All programs" it is confined in a little space, and I have to scroll and scroll to find a program I want. In XP, there was a good fly out menu, much more convenient. Now, there is no option to put it back.

7) SystemTray:

Network icon does not have an animation anymore. Nothing "major" for me, but again, lost feature, and goes to the list.

For me, the Windows explorer faults are what prevent this system from beeing the best I ever used. So, I hope they get fixed someday. Or, not fixed, because in xp they were not broken. In fact, I just hope they stop removing good old features. Thanks for reading.

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Tue, 07 Jul 2009 14:43:48 Z

Hello,

will in Win 7 the Binary Prefixes finally be used or correctly, or will Win 7 still adress them wrongly as Decimal Prefixes?
Id like to see that there will be finally correctly differenciated between those two.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binary_prefix
I can see the Decimal Prefixes have been used as an Temporary Solution in the early times of Computing. But since we got a standard now for Binary Prefixes, a change should be made. Sticking to Decimal Prefixes is just confusing, since many people dont know where they are used correctly (for connection speeds or unformatted HDD sizes), or wrongly (as in formatted storage space). As an example i often read people complain about HDDs not having the size they are sold for, and they blame the maufacturers of those.
But whos really wrong here?

You as the Developers of the most used OS can make a change here, and correct an error of the past, which is still around today.

Kind Regards,
Johannes

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Tue, 07 Jul 2009 15:10:32 Z

When installing my USB device in Windows XP,Vista, etc if the INF was not found you could direct the installation to your install directory. When installing in Windows 7 the install failed and I had to open device manager and update driver to direct to our install directory. Is there a way to have Windows 7 ask for the driver install directory on device install failure?

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Tue, 07 Jul 2009 15:24:20 Z

<Continuation of long thread Have Comments about Windows 7 RC (Part 4)>

To all forum users:

Please use this thread to note any comments that you have about Windows 7 Release Candidate (RC). Do not use this thread for any specific question or issue that you are having - just for comments or feedback. For questions/issues that require an answer, create a new thread.

Thanks

-Tony Mann
Windows Client IT Pro Audience Manager for Web Forums, Windows Client Forum Owner

Bug report: trying to change the name of USB sticks on windows 7 64 bit under Atlon X2 processor crashes Windows Explorer. Under Phenom II 710 random behavior is produced. I had not see crashes, but sometimes the new name is not changed, sometimes is changed but after closing and reloading windows explorer it no more recognizes the label. Once the drive icon dissapeared, as is the drive would had been disconnected. Under Windows 7 32 bit, it looks like working ok.

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Tue, 07 Jul 2009 15:33:43 Z

I was about to make a thread related to this, and then was lucky enough to stumble across this existing one. I'm glad to know that I can do shift+click on a window in the taskbar to get to the classic menu, but I wonder about the relative merits of making right click be the jump window (is that what it's called?) vs the classic menu. When I right click on a window, the thing I really want to do is close it, most of the time. Wanting to choose "remove from taskbar" would be a far less frequent choice for me. So shouldn't the jump window be the harder to implement option? (ie, shift+right click, that is) One suggestion- When we right click a window, my make us move the mouse to reach any of the options? It would be far more efficient if the most important right click option appeared directly beneath the mouse cursor, instead of up above it, requiring a move of the mouse. If "close window" appeared beneath the mouse in that way, it would be nice, imo, to be able to close windows by simply right clicking then left clicking, without having to move the mouse at all.

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Tue, 07 Jul 2009 15:47:50 Z

I have been using windows 7 since the beta, and after RC, I removed my old XP 32 installation and have been using RC as my main operational system since them. It´s a very good, stable system, and I like it very much. But, I would like to point here lots of things that I miss from XP. I know windows is "done" RTM is just a week away, and my suggestions will never happen in RTM. But, maybe in a future SP or another patch, it could be useful. So, here is my list of:

Functionality Lost - From XP to Seven

1) WINDOWS EXPLORER:

For me, Windows 7 is an amazing system. It´s fast and reliable. But, using Windows explorer now, after using the one in Windows xp for years, just show me that the new explorer need lots of fixing. LOTS. It´s, for me, the worse part of the system.

A) In xp, the information provided by the status bar is much more useful than the one I have now, be it in the status bar or in the Details Pane.
If I´m exploring the contents of one folder, xp provides me the number of itens in that folder, the total file size (sum of all sizes in the folder) and the "location" if the files are stored in my computer or in a network.
NOW, all I have is the total number of itens. So, XP statusbar, with one single line, provides me 3 times more info than The new pane in 7, who took 3 or more lines, by default.
I agree if I select one single file the details pane info is amazing, but I really miss the total file size info in the bar. We don´t even have an option to put it in the status bar (hidden by default). So, status bar is just useless now.
There is no way to work with large amount of data if I always need to select all files just to check if they will, lets say, fit in a removable midia, or in another partition, or so on. The file size is so basic information, takes so little space and is so useful, that I can´t even imagine WHY it was left out of the bar! Its not asking much, to, at least, put a selection, avaible by right click, like "Show file sizes".
Worse yet, if I need to know the file sizes of more than 15 files, I have to click "Show more details". and if I select one more or de-select one of them, I need to click it again. And again and again, everytime the selection changes. Why can´t a modern operational system calculate this in a milisecound? Wait. a system from a decade ago (XP) could do that. The real question is: why WINDOWS 7 can´t do it?

I already read it´s removed because of the new way libraries work, putting multiple folder together. Ok, I can understand it, but not accept it.If Im inside a library, and it´s soooooooo hard to code something to show the file sizes in that specific place, just remove file sizes in the LIBRARY, not in almost every place of the new explorer. Or, just add a option to put the file sizes back, for the users who use it.

B) There is no more "up" button. We have breadcumb now, ok, but what if I WANT the up button? Is really that hard to make a option to put it back, if I want it?

C) Toolbar in explorer can no longer be customizable. If I don´t want the "Burn" button, I can´t remove it. If I want to put copy / past icons there, for easier use, I can´t. It´s the way it is, like it or not, the user can´t change it.

D) When working with multiple files in xp, I could past a lot of files in a folder, having them in the end of file list, work with them, and organize them the way I want. After having all set, I just hit F5 and all files are organizated. Now, explorer autosort the files. If I put a group of files in a folder with other files, they just get "sorted" and it´s much harder to find the files all over the old ones. And, again, there is no way to disable this "feature" that I don´t want.

E) If I select multiple file types, like a doc and a txt or xls, I can´t open all of them. The option is missing. I could do it in XP. Worse yet, there is no way to change permissions or security options for more than one file. We need to set it one at a time. In xp, it was possible and easy.

F) Users can not move / organize files freely in a folder anymore. I never used this, and I don´t like it, but I know there are people who use it, and they can not anymore. It´s a feature lost, so, even if I don´t use it, goes to the list.

G) In xp, when I start a move or copy operation, a dialog appears and I can see what I´m doing. Now, a dialog that appears don´t provide the basic info, like file names beeing moved. I need to click to "show more". Why do I have to click it always? Why this dialog can´t remember the way it was in the last use and keep it that way? Why I need (again) to click "SHOW IT TO ME" so I can see something that was always there?

H) Re-open folders in logon is gone.

I) Filmstrip view is gone.

J) List view now have a strange behavior. If the file name in the last column in a list can not fit the screen, all columns change position to the left, to let the user see the full name. BUT, it just disrupts the workflow and a file that was right under the mouse now is in the left column.
I miss the old good behaved list view we had in XP.

2) IMAGE IMPORTER

In windows xp, I plug my digital camera. A dialog window comes asking me to import my pictures, and I start the process. There is a really nice and useful little importer. I can select all the pictures I want, name it and save it.

What do we have now? A nothing useful importer, who just ask a tag, and imports ALL pictures. Why can´t I select what I WANT and DON´t WANT to import, anymore?

3) WINDOWS MEDIA PLAYER:
In xp, I could change tracks, volume, pause all from a nick wmpbar in the taskbar. Now, the WMP icon in the superbar gives ZERO possibilies. If I want to pause a song, I need to hover (or click) wmp icon, and pause in the preview. If I want to change the volume? NO WAY! I need to open the WMP window to do this simple action.

4) SOUND RECORDER:
It used to be a very versatile application. I always used it to convert wav´s to another format. Now, I can´t do that anymore. (In fact, it was the Jaabi´s post up there about this issue that motivated me to write all this).

5) TASKBAR (SUPERBAR)
With multiple windows of the same programs opened and grouped, I could click the icon to have the last active window in focus again. Now, I can´t. In fact, now, hovering a icon in superbar AND clicking a icon do the exactly same thing. Why clicking do the same as hovering? Imagine the mess if this "idea" becomes standard in the computer world? Come on, guys. Hover is hover, click is click. Two user actions, stands for two computer actions, not the same action. Just a matter of logic.

6) StartMenu

A) Classic start menu is gone. I don´t to use it, but I know lots of people do. It´s a lost feature, so, goes to the list.

B) When I click "All programs" it is confined in a little space, and I have to scroll and scroll to find a program I want. In XP, there was a good fly out menu, much more convenient. Now, there is no option to put it back.

7) SystemTray:

Network icon does not have an animation anymore. Nothing "major" for me, but again, lost feature, and goes to the list.

For me, the Windows explorer faults are what prevent this system from beeing the best I ever used. So, I hope they get fixed someday. Or, not fixed, because in xp they were not broken. In fact, I just hope they stop removing good old features. Thanks for reading.

Microsoft: This Warel post is incredibely important. In particular about Windows explorer.

The status bar info is really vital.

Being able to select and operate (run, change permissions, edit) a much larger set of files, and of different extensions, Is TOO much important.

Is necessary a simple and fast way to TAKE OWNERSHIP of files anf folders.

I asked two people (common users, not techies), to test windows 7, so I can evaluate if the migration from XP to 7 would be smooth.

No way. It was TRAUMATIC.

The first one, asked to wipe out Win7 after being unable to find the folder-up icon.
I think that selecting the mother folders in the address bar, is far better, but people where thinking that they already had learn to operate windows. They do not expected to need to learn again. Is SCARY to them. Comoon people fear computers.

The second one got a dfferent username and password. He got a heII rant about no more be able to use his NTFS files. Taking back the ownership, and all the permissions even for a simple text file was so hard. It was so TRAUMATIC for him, that he asked to get XP back.

Remember, people already is scared and deeply pissed from Vista. They mistrust any new from Microsoft. They are scared, and default against upgrading.

Nonetheless, I think that migration to 64 bit is unavoidable, and I would not want to buy new licenses of other OS than Win7 x64. But I would NOT risk my reputation anfter an OS that scares people, or pisses them off.

I would personally switch to Win 7 x64 as early as possible. But I would not force it on common people at the cost of scaring them. NO WAY.

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Tue, 07 Jul 2009 16:27:39 Z

It would be nice if Windows XP Mode's windows would have Aero Snap functionality.

Since XP doesn't have DWM, Aero Peek is not possible, but something that Aero Snap-like must be possible, and should be implemented.

Regards,
Kristaps.

P.S.: Epic shoop is epic.

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Tue, 07 Jul 2009 16:44:23 Z

It would be nice if Windows XP Mode's windows would have Aero Snap functionality.

Since XP doesn't have DWM, Aero Peek is not possible, but something that Aero Snap-like must be, and should be implemented.

Regards,
Kristaps.

P.S.: Epic shoop is epic.

Why must and should it be implemented? You've already established (correctly) why it isn't implemented. As long as it is virtual XP, that will be dependent upon the XP OS that is being run virtually. That is, essentially, asking for a XP re-write to add a Windows 7/Vista feature into an old (now dead-end) OS, when the point is for XP mode to be something to aid in transiiton....

Stephen

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Tue, 07 Jul 2009 18:15:35 Z

Other suggestion: no extra checkbox for explorer, but if in system settings autorun is disabled, then do not close explorer window on removing media,
no matter where the focus is

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Tue, 07 Jul 2009 18:50:02 Z

If Virtual XP works in the let's call it "windows-only mode" (no desktop is visible), the XP windows should get some of the features the Win7 windows have - most notably, the Aero snap. That way Virtual XP would be much easier to use, and it's easy to implement - just add Win7's Snap code to Virtual XP's windows (AFAIK Virtual XP is already somehow optimized for Win7, so this shouldn't be hard).

Regards,
Kristaps.

P.S.: Epic shoop is epic.

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Tue, 07 Jul 2009 18:55:46 Z

That'd make it pretty for some users, but it's bad news for Microsoft and customers like enterprise customers.

They need the people who build programs to make them work the right way, using standards that have been published since 2001 (any program written for XP correctly will work in Windows Vista/7... only the ones that used bad practices are crippled in newer versions). Microsoft let these things slide in XP -- the OS would just happily allow the programs to write data to locations that should be read-only, etc. In Vista/7, those are blocked (and some programs won't work because of it).

If Microsoft just made the Virtual XP mode look/act/run exactly like 7... even if that were possible (it isn't), it would take away the incentive for those developers to actually make their programs work.

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Tue, 07 Jul 2009 19:03:31 Z

The purpose of XP mode is compatibility. They shouldn't much around with Windows XP - period.

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Tue, 07 Jul 2009 19:19:52 Z

Once again Win Explorer: I suggest a further option for folder and search settings : copy previous folder-view ! That means : if checked this option then you have the following scenario : Open folder x with view a, change to view b or keep view a, then open folder y and you have view b or a, respectively. If this option checked, it overrides the default or stored view of the opened folder.

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Tue, 07 Jul 2009 20:34:31 Z

I have been using windows 7 since the beta, and after RC, I removed my old XP 32 installation and have been using RC as my main operational system since them. It´s a very good, stable system, and I like it very much. But, I would like to point here lots of things that I miss from XP. I know windows is "done" RTM is just a week away, and my suggestions will never happen in RTM. But, maybe in a future SP or another patch, it could be useful. So, here is my list of:

Functionality Lost - From XP to Seven

1) WINDOWS EXPLORER:

For me, Windows 7 is an amazing system. It´s fast and reliable. But, using Windows explorer now, after using the one in Windows xp for years, just show me that the new explorer need lots of fixing. LOTS. It´s, for me, the worse part of the system.

A) In xp, the information provided by the status bar is much more useful than the one I have now, be it in the status bar or in the Details Pane.
If I´m exploring the contents of one folder, xp provides me the number of itens in that folder, the total file size (sum of all sizes in the folder) and the "location" if the files are stored in my computer or in a network.
NOW, all I have is the total number of itens. So, XP statusbar, with one single line, provides me 3 times more info than The new pane in 7, who took 3 or more lines, by default.
I agree if I select one single file the details pane info is amazing, but I really miss the total file size info in the bar. We don´t even have an option to put it in the status bar (hidden by default). So, status bar is just useless now.
There is no way to work with large amount of data if I always need to select all files just to check if they will, lets say, fit in a removable midia, or in another partition, or so on. The file size is so basic information, takes so little space and is so useful, that I can´t even imagine WHY it was left out of the bar! Its not asking much, to, at least, put a selection, avaible by right click, like "Show file sizes".
Worse yet, if I need to know the file sizes of more than 15 files, I have to click "Show more details". and if I select one more or de-select one of them, I need to click it again. And again and again, everytime the selection changes. Why can´t a modern operational system calculate this in a milisecound? Wait. a system from a decade ago (XP) could do that. The real question is: why WINDOWS 7 can´t do it?

I already read it´s removed because of the new way libraries work, putting multiple folder together. Ok, I can understand it, but not accept it.If Im inside a library, and it´s soooooooo hard to code something to show the file sizes in that specific place, just remove file sizes in the LIBRARY, not in almost every place of the new explorer. Or, just add a option to put the file sizes back, for the users who use it.

B) There is no more "up" button. We have breadcumb now, ok, but what if I WANT the up button? Is really that hard to make a option to put it back, if I want it?

C) Toolbar in explorer can no longer be customizable. If I don´t want the "Burn" button, I can´t remove it. If I want to put copy / past icons there, for easier use, I can´t. It´s the way it is, like it or not, the user can´t change it.

D) When working with multiple files in xp, I could past a lot of files in a folder, having them in the end of file list, work with them, and organize them the way I want. After having all set, I just hit F5 and all files are organizated. Now, explorer autosort the files. If I put a group of files in a folder with other files, they just get "sorted" and it´s much harder to find the files all over the old ones. And, again, there is no way to disable this "feature" that I don´t want.

E) If I select multiple file types, like a doc and a txt or xls, I can´t open all of them. The option is missing. I could do it in XP. Worse yet, there is no way to change permissions or security options for more than one file. We need to set it one at a time. In xp, it was possible and easy.

F) Users can not move / organize files freely in a folder anymore. I never used this, and I don´t like it, but I know there are people who use it, and they can not anymore. It´s a feature lost, so, even if I don´t use it, goes to the list.

G) In xp, when I start a move or copy operation, a dialog appears and I can see what I´m doing. Now, a dialog that appears don´t provide the basic info, like file names beeing moved. I need to click to "show more". Why do I have to click it always? Why this dialog can´t remember the way it was in the last use and keep it that way? Why I need (again) to click "SHOW IT TO ME" so I can see something that was always there?

H) Re-open folders in logon is gone.

I) Filmstrip view is gone.

J) List view now have a strange behavior. If the file name in the last column in a list can not fit the screen, all columns change position to the left, to let the user see the full name. BUT, it just disrupts the workflow and a file that was right under the mouse now is in the left column.
I miss the old good behaved list view we had in XP.

2) IMAGE IMPORTER

In windows xp, I plug my digital camera. A dialog window comes asking me to import my pictures, and I start the process. There is a really nice and useful little importer. I can select all the pictures I want, name it and save it.

What do we have now? A nothing useful importer, who just ask a tag, and imports ALL pictures. Why can´t I select what I WANT and DON´t WANT to import, anymore?

3) WINDOWS MEDIA PLAYER:
In xp, I could change tracks, volume, pause all from a nick wmpbar in the taskbar. Now, the WMP icon in the superbar gives ZERO possibilies. If I want to pause a song, I need to hover (or click) wmp icon, and pause in the preview. If I want to change the volume? NO WAY! I need to open the WMP window to do this simple action.

4) SOUND RECORDER:
It used to be a very versatile application. I always used it to convert wav´s to another format. Now, I can´t do that anymore. (In fact, it was the Jaabi´s post up there about this issue that motivated me to write all this).

5) TASKBAR (SUPERBAR)
With multiple windows of the same programs opened and grouped, I could click the icon to have the last active window in focus again. Now, I can´t. In fact, now, hovering a icon in superbar AND clicking a icon do the exactly same thing. Why clicking do the same as hovering? Imagine the mess if this "idea" becomes standard in the computer world? Come on, guys. Hover is hover, click is click. Two user actions, stands for two computer actions, not the same action. Just a matter of logic.

6) StartMenu

A) Classic start menu is gone. I don´t to use it, but I know lots of people do. It´s a lost feature, so, goes to the list.

B) When I click "All programs" it is confined in a little space, and I have to scroll and scroll to find a program I want. In XP, there was a good fly out menu, much more convenient. Now, there is no option to put it back.

7) SystemTray:

Network icon does not have an animation anymore. Nothing "major" for me, but again, lost feature, and goes to the list.

For me, the Windows explorer faults are what prevent this system from beeing the best I ever used. So, I hope they get fixed someday. Or, not fixed, because in xp they were not broken. In fact, I just hope they stop removing good old features. Thanks for reading.

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Tue, 07 Jul 2009 21:55:39 Z

Aero Snap is just window resizing and positioning. What compatibility? Can't XP resize windows? Can't XP re-position windows?

Btw, Virtual XP windows do interact with the Win7 desktop.

Regards,
Kristaps.

P.S.: Epic shoop is epic.

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Tue, 07 Jul 2009 21:59:43 Z

To put it simple "when opening a folder, use previous folder's view settings".
I don't see much use to this, since usually every folder view is customized for that folder's contents, and I don't think it would be useful for the user to change them.

Regards,
Kristaps.

P.S.: Epic shoop is epic.

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Tue, 07 Jul 2009 22:26:49 Z

I preferred the old Sound Recorder too, mainly because it wasn't just a sound recorder, but I used to also use it to compress WAVs.

Now I have Audacity so I no longer need it, but seeing what happened to the sound recorder in Vista was a bit of a unwelcome surprise. :/
da page :B

WOW. I couldn't believe that it has been dumbed down too. I use Sound Recorder a LOT at work in XP for our Provincial Foreign Language exams. The format wav is essential as the servers are Non-Microsoft.

Now we have to use a 3rd party application if we upgrade to Windows Vista / 7.

I am still shaking my head as to WHY Microsoft would take away functionality that they offered in a previous OS and force users to purchase or run opensource software for what they could used to do for free as part of Windows.

Now the one push for Mac's is that they come bundled with so much really cool software and yet Microsoft is either reducing or eliminating the software they provide INSTEAD of increasing/improving it.

lforbes

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Wed, 08 Jul 2009 02:28:27 Z

The Task Pane should be user-customizable with buttons like cut/copy/paste/undo/delete/shoop, whatever.

And don't forget to add the missing "Eject" button in Task Pane inside removable drives ;) This annoyed the ____ out of me in Vista.

Regards,
Kristaps.

P.S.: Epic shoop is epic.

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Wed, 08 Jul 2009 06:08:24 Z

To put it simple "when opening a folder, use previous folder's view settings".
I don't see much use to this, since usually every folder view is customized for that folder's contents, and I don't think it would be useful for the user to change them.
Regards,
Kristaps.

P.S.: Epic shoop is epic.

I see much use of this. Sometimes I want to have another view than f.e. details view! And I am not interested in changing the settings for each folder! And btw, are there not problems enough with "automatic" change of folder settings since "darling" Vista explorer? So, if you like another view for some time, you change it just ONE TIME and thats it! Other programmers seem to see use of this too, see Directory Opus and Ultraexplorer! OK, I can use these and I did because of some lacks in Win Explorer! BUT I prefer as a principle to use on-board tools!

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Wed, 08 Jul 2009 06:19:20 Z

@ Iforbes : Then DO NOT upgrade ! Microsoft too has to learn some basic principles as everybody!

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Wed, 08 Jul 2009 09:04:06 Z

Performance. All I can say is Windows 7 is a lot better than the Vista Packages. My machine with Windows 7 runs speed as fast as XP. This is a great thing because I can get work done better and faster. Thought there are some concerns that I have discovered but I'm sure Microsoft will work on in. Some of these problems are posted in my threads. And I hope I can get the answers soon. Visual. Like Vista, a new texture feel comes with the RC. there's nothing to complain about. Gaming. I like gaming better in Windows 7 than Vista. I enjoy the games' graphics in Windows 7. Networking. Plug and Play. (Of course, you can configure the network) Drivers. I hope the developers keep up with the existing drivers (that doesn't work). Please make it picture perfect finish. :)

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Wed, 08 Jul 2009 10:04:15 Z

I'm glad to know that I can do shift+click on a window in the taskbar to get to the classic menu, but I wonder about the relative merits of making right click be the jump window (is that what it's called?) vs the classic menu. When I right click on a window, the thing I really want to do is close it, most of the time. Wanting to choose "remove from taskbar" would be a far less frequent choice for me. So shouldn't the jump window be the harder to implement option? (ie, shift+right click, that is)
You could argue that, yes, however Unpin... isn't the only option in the jump list (and close is there, after all) and I find few people close from the taskbar. I personally find jumplists useful because of tasks (WMP's Play all and Resume) and, even more importantly, the MRU/MFU/Pinned lists are there! I use these very frequently to jump directly to specific files quickly and expect the use of jump list tasks to increase in the future. Bascially, it has the most important option the the old menu and a number of other complexities tacked on. But I also like the Start Menu, so it might just be another one of those old v new things.

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Wed, 08 Jul 2009 10:04:49 Z

Aero Snap is just window resizing and positioning. What compatibility? Can't XP resize windows? Can't XP re-
position windows?
Yes, it can do both. I know. The point isn't that Aero Snap would break something in Windows XP but that it could break compatibility with something. The only purpose for Windows XP Mode, as of today, is to run non-intensive applications with full compatibility with older versions of Windows... primarily XP, as the name would imply. UX is a non-issue here, Windows XP has hit a point in its life where it will only be receiving security updates.

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Wed, 08 Jul 2009 11:42:47 Z

Could some Dev please kindly reply me on this?

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Wed, 08 Jul 2009 15:08:21 Z

Wow somehow i manage to find something Buggy i didnt like. Here goes. This is the RC that has this problem. The Quicklaunch is not resizable, even after unchecking the lock Taskbar menu item. However, if i enable another toolbar such as the links toolbar it magically becomes resizable and the lock Taskbar functions as in XP.
After launching an instance of an app who's shortcut sits in the quicklaunch; I no longer have the option to simply click the icon again to launch another instance. To achieve simply launching another instance, i would have to right click on the taskbar icon of the app i am trying to launch another instance of.
The default show the desktop icon for the quicklaunch was a good idea, now i have to right click on the taskbar to select show the desktop.

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Wed, 08 Jul 2009 15:50:12 Z

5) TASKBAR (SUPERBAR)
With multiple windows of the same programs opened and grouped, I could click the icon to have the last active window in focus again. Now, I can´t. In fact, now, hovering a icon in superbar AND clicking a icon do the exactly same thing. Why clicking do the same as hovering? Imagine the mess if this "idea" becomes standard in the computer world? Come on, guys. Hover is hover, click is click. Two user actions, stands for two computer actions, not the same action. Just a matter of logic.

ABSOLUTELY RIGHT

I have to correct my opinion: I you click on grouped programs and you hover over another program icon, you see the thumbs of the previous group.
If you only hover on the group and you hover on, you see the thumbs of the actual hovered icon! So hovering and clicking are the same only at the first glance !
YOU are right, MS!

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Wed, 08 Jul 2009 16:02:53 Z

5) TASKBAR (SUPERBAR)
With multiple windows of the same programs opened and grouped, I could click the icon to have the last active window in focus again. Now, I can´t. In fact, now, hovering a icon in superbar AND clicking a icon do the exactly same thing. Why clicking do the same as hovering? Imagine the mess if this "idea" becomes standard in the computer world? Come on, guys. Hover is hover, click is click. Two user actions, stands for two computer actions, not the same action. Just a matter of logic.

ABSOLUTELY RIGHT

I have to correct my opinion: I you click on grouped programs and you hover over another program icon, you see the thumbs of the previous group.
If you only hover on the group and you hover on, you see the thumbs of the actual hovered icon! So hovering and clicking are the same only at the first glance !
YOU are right, MS!

Turns out, un-grouping and hovering over a window belonging to an instance of the same app type gives the same box as grouping and hovering.

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Wed, 08 Jul 2009 16:31:26 Z

<Continuation of long thread Have Comments about Windows 7 RC (Part 4) >

To all forum users:

Please use this thread to note any comments that you have about Windows 7 Release Candidate (RC). Do not use this thread for any specific question or issue that you are having - just for comments or feedback. For questions/issues that require an answer, create a new thread.

Thanks

-Tony Mann
Windows Client IT Pro Audience Manager for Web Forums, Windows Client Forum Owner

We need Part 6 of this thread.

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Wed, 08 Jul 2009 18:04:02 Z

1. What you're talking about - that's not quicklaunch - the entire taskbar can now contain pinned programs and stuff (which eliminates the need for quicklaunch). And it's not meant to be resized, because it spans all available space on taskbar.
2. Middle-click or shift+click
3. There's a button on far-right of the taskbar. Hover = peek desktop, click = show desktop (and if I would be Windows dev, I'd make middle-click do something too)

Regards,
Kristaps.

P.S.: Epic shoop is epic.

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Wed, 08 Jul 2009 19:48:18 Z

When taking a window snip with the Snipping Tool, the window borders get partially cropped, which in the end picture looks really ugly :(
Alt+PrintScreen, however, works fine.

Regards,
Kristaps.

P.S.: Epic shoop is epic.

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Thu, 09 Jul 2009 00:03:52 Z

Hello, when you want to shut down, do the Win-key then a right arrow, the focus will go to Shut-down. Happy now ?

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Thu, 09 Jul 2009 00:11:30 Z

    Hi !     Speaking of "wallpaper", did you ever try to change the size of the default ?   I use the small fish, it is shown as img0.jpg but somehow locked to a full screen size. I like having a black border around the wallpaper to park my few icons.

                 Quite a challenge to change the size. I finally got the small fish open in my photo app, Paintshop Pro, and saved it to another folder as the one where the original sits is all locked up. Why do they do this ? Just like hiding suffix for files, who are they trying to protect ?

              Now, after resizing the .jpg to desired size, I have my 1" border all around.   You had to be there !

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Thu, 09 Jul 2009 00:14:44 Z

I do not see this as a problem, maybe a very small aggravtion ! Try the Alt-Tab and move from one to the next with a Tab tab. Just like Win95, maybe you are too young .... ;-)

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Thu, 09 Jul 2009 00:19:15 Z

Did you try setting the wallpaper option to center instead of "fill" or "stretch"?

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Thu, 09 Jul 2009 00:22:10 Z

We don't need an OS designed to protect home users from themselves.
ROFL, so true! :'(

Lara and Kristaps, hello. Hey, I am a home user but I fix putors. Just a short note to say that I find W-7 to be really nice. One has to learn a few new ways of doing things but there is this facility in the human mind. Office 2007 is another thing now, so different.

Be good and enjoy.

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Thu, 09 Jul 2009 00:31:55 Z

So, they added some new games to the Microsoft list, but got rid of Texas Hold'em?...
is there a way to get this little extra on Windows 7?
In God I trust! And in Microsoft ???

Hey Pastor, move it from XP or Win2K, I prefered the old Solitaire and copied it that way, runs fine. Was not Aron done in by Abel ???

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Thu, 09 Jul 2009 00:35:52 Z

Hey, Kristaps, you forget all your keyboard hot keys ??? Use the Alt + Space then N to minimize or X to go full screen. They were there in Win-95.

How soon we forget.

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Thu, 09 Jul 2009 03:29:38 Z

I don't know if it had been brought up before, or anything like this, but I'd really like to see an option to pin certain windows to stay on top of everything else. Many Linux operating systems have this feature, and it would help greatly to not have to sort through windows, re-size them, etc. just to be able to both at the same time.

Just an idea, thanks,
Kirk Elifson

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Thu, 09 Jul 2009 10:12:55 Z

Today I had to work with two Word (Office 2007) documents at the same time, side-by-side, and it involved a lot of button pressing ^^

I needed to press a button in one window, and then in the other. To my surprise, pressing a button in the inactive button doesn't actually press that button . No, it only changes that window's state to Active. Why, oh why? Why can't I press a button in another window and get a pressed button result? Why do I have to click twice just because of some lame 20th-Century window behavior?

Come on, it's 2009! You should be able to scroll and click and otherwise use all open windows, regardless of their "state".

P.S.: Sorry about the big letters, but I think this is really important.

Regards,
Kristaps.

P.S.: Epic shoop is epic.

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Thu, 09 Jul 2009 10:18:17 Z

This doesn't apply to all applications.

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Thu, 09 Jul 2009 10:21:02 Z

Yeah, it's kinda inconsistent here.

Office: Can scroll (only when another Office window is active/focused), can't click other windows
Everything else I tried: Can click, can't scroll other windows

What's going on!? :P

Regards,
Kristaps.

P.S.: Epic shoop is epic.

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Thu, 09 Jul 2009 11:07:31 Z

One more inconsistency in Win Explorer (my "hobby" tool) : Window active, scrollbar in folder window, scrollbar in view window, focus in folder window, mouse over view window : scrolling aha,in the left window, not in the right! "Fantastic" . To my good fortune I have KatMouse!

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Thu, 09 Jul 2009 12:02:02 Z

Naah, it's fine with me, but some people [not me] have been asking for the old menu back (even if it is there, they just don't know how to access it). To make them feel better, I suggested merging jump lists and the old menu (see the above mockup).

It's what I do ;)

Maybe, when I become older, I might start working at MS for UI designer/consultant or something like that. Then maybe at least some of my mock-ups could become real (since I don't see that happening now ^^) , which would be really cool :)

Regards,
Kristaps.

P.S.: Epic shoop is epic.

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Thu, 09 Jul 2009 13:09:42 Z

Did you try setting the wallpaper option to center instead of "fill" or "stretch"?

Yes, I had and both options gave me still a full screen even if the fish was larger in the center of it. Moving the PrnScrn to another folder solved this personal problem.

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Thu, 09 Jul 2009 13:58:23 Z

Shutdown.exe contains command-line switches for shutdown, restart, hibernate , but not for sleep . Please fix ;)

Regards,
Kristaps.

P.S.: Epic shoop is epic.

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Thu, 09 Jul 2009 16:03:34 Z

Hello!

Is it really necessary to put downloaded files in a Temp folder and then move them to they final folder when finished?
Can´t they be recorded DIRECTLY to they destination place?
Big files (DVD.iso images) takes up several secs (or mins) to get copied!

Thanx!
Fernando.

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Thu, 09 Jul 2009 18:09:10 Z

Windows XP had this "Scanners and Cameras" Control Panel, where you could adjust your webcam settings at capture a photo or video. Sadly, I can't find an equivalent in Win7 (I'm not sure if Vista had it too)

Regards,
Kristaps.

P.S.: Epic shoop is epic.

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Thu, 09 Jul 2009 20:43:04 Z

I'm liking W7 a lot. The IE8 32 bit is really slow in 64bitW7. But...IE864bit does not have flash capability so it's 32bit IE in a 64bit machine. Sure hope that changes soon. If you go to Office Max or Office Depot you will see 64 bit machines on the floor. Pretty soon, it is all going to be 64bit so, again, I can't wait till media catches up with the 64bit technology.

W764RC (WEI is 4.6) Intel DP35DP Core 2Duo 2.20 Evga Nvidia 8500 256meg HP Officejet Pro L7580 Raid 5 with 3x 320g HDs Office 2007 Standard QuickBooks Pro 2007 eSword Latest Edition Steam America's Army via Steam Voyage Century

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Thu, 09 Jul 2009 21:01:51 Z

Hi all, my first post, so please be kind :).

I deal with small business, home users - with a large percentage of older customers, single mums, and parents of school age kids.

OK, feedback from small business is that Vista sucks. It is not the program itself, the backend, security, features options or whatever. It is the interface. Staff don't like it, don't understand it and don't want it. The employers definitely don't want to annoy their staff or have to basically retrain them to use Vista/Win7. I am not talking about program compatibility issues, it is the look and feel.

New users feel intimidated, because the inerface doesn't look like XP, which is what all their friends and family have, so they can't get help from them. Or if they do get help, it's from the 'nerdy' 16 year old who only talks in technobabble. I am not making this stuff up. This is feedback from customers, not my words.

Vista has a terrible reputation. Initially from the misleading information (at least here in Oz) about availability - Rumors were flying about that XP was dead and there would be no support, or availability, etc ... So Win7 is getting tarred with the same brush because it looks the same as Vista.

I have been in IT for 15 years, and got my first PC in 1981. So I think I have a fair bit of general experience. The general feeling is that MS had better get this one right, because after ME (I tell customers that I won't fix a ME computer) and Vista - this is really the last chance.

Now, I found Win7 fast, very fast actually - I have to give credit where credit is due. But it is buggy - BSOD while opening Solitaire (sheesh guys - that's got to be the single most popular game/app in the world!) or some rather old games (4 year old shooters) However, I suspect that these issues will get fixed, eventually (service pack 1 I would say). So, from a purely technical side I think it will be an improvement.

However, if you don't give users the option of a seamless change from XP, an interface which looks and feels like XP ... Well, I suspect that MS will be supporting XP for many years to come.

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Thu, 09 Jul 2009 21:30:10 Z

I agree. I'm the (whatever age) kid who speaks tech-stuff and from what I have found on tech support calls (this town I'm in is a senior town) is that the seniors find the app they want to open by its title, NOT its icon. Good thing that win7 has the "Combine when Taskbar is full" taskbar properties option, or (at least these) seniors would be going crazy!

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Thu, 09 Jul 2009 21:55:26 Z

The Sleep mode is far from perfect - when coming back from sleep, some of my devices (for example webcam) cease working, and sometimes nor mouse nor keyboard work, and I have to force-restart again. :(

Regards,
Kristaps.

P.S.: Epic shoop is epic.

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Thu, 09 Jul 2009 22:15:17 Z

I'm starting to really like CPL tasks in the Start Menu but I find a few I would helpful are missing, they are below:

"Check for solutions"
Run "CPL\Action Center\Check for solutions" without opening Action Center

"Modify indexed locations"
CPL\Indexing options\Modify

"Rebuild the search index" [UAC]
Open the CPL\Indexing options at the main window with the index rebuilding pop-up.

"Customize system icons in the notification area"
CPL\Notificatin area icons\System icons

"Adjust visual effects"
CPL\Performance information and tools\Adjust visual effects
This one is already available as something but I usually forget that one, I think this would be worlds better.

"Change advance power settings"
CPL\Power options\*current plan*\Edit plan settings\Change advanced power settings

"Customize the Start Menu"
should lead to "CPL\Taskbar and Start Menu properties\Start Menu [tab]\Customize Start Menu"

"Change your account type" [UAC]
CPL\User accounts\Change your account type

"Check for updates"
should open "CPL\Windows update\" and run the check for updates on its own

"Change the way windows updates"
CPL\Windows Update\Change settings

"View windows update history"
CPL\Windows Update\View update history

"Restore previously hidden system updates"
CPL\Windows update\Restore hidden updates\

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Windows XP had this "Scanners and Cameras" Control Panel, where you could adjust your webcam settings at capture a photo or video. Sadly, I can't find an equivalent in Win7 (I'm not sure if Vista had it too)
I don't have a webcam but this should go in Devices and Printers. Barring that, you would have to install custom drivers that have the companies' own application or CPL objects.

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Thu, 09 Jul 2009 22:15:51 Z

For the old school look, go to control panel, appearance and personalization, change the theme, select windows classic. Hows that for a Win2k, early XP look?
Oh, your graphics card didn't support Aero anyway?

Sheesh, does anyone buy new hardware? Moore's Law does apply. So, the OS must keep up. Every transition brings headaches for end users that are not open to change-hardware or learning new features.

If they like XP, keep using it.

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Thu, 09 Jul 2009 22:46:52 Z

Just have to say that the audio mixer is a lot better than it is in XP, where in win7 you can adjust the volume of other programs without turining all the other programs down. Great feature!

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Thu, 09 Jul 2009 22:49:15 Z

I moved from Windows XP to W7 and I loved the difference. My wife's machine is Vist Business. I actually like the W7 better than Vista. But, I agree that many businesses will want to keep XP around. Look how long it took people to make the jump from W'95. Many jumped over '98 and ME to XP. And now they will make the jump to W7 but it will take a while. Many business just want a simple functional look w/o all the coolness. That will soon change though.

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Fri, 10 Jul 2009 01:05:59 Z

"Check for solutions"
Run "CPL\Action Center\Check for solutions" without opening Action Center

"Modify indexed locations"
CPL\Indexing options\Modify
"Rebuild the search index" [UAC]
Open the CPL\Indexing options at the main window with the index rebuilding pop-up.

"Customize system icons in the notification area"
CPL\Notificatin area icons\System icons

"Adjust visual effects"
CPL\Performance information and tools\Adjust visual effects
This one is already available as something but I usually forget that one, I think this would be worlds better.

"Change advance power settings"
CPL\Power options\*current plan*\Edit plan settings\Change advanced power settings

"Customize the Start Menu"
should lead to "CPL\Taskbar and Start Menu properties\Start Menu [tab]\Customize Start Menu"

"Change your account type" [UAC]
CPL\User accounts\Change your account type

"Check for updates"
should open "CPL\Windows update\" and run the check for updates on its own

"Change the way windows updates"
CPL\Windows Update\Change settings

"View windows update history"
CPL\Windows Update\View update history

"Restore previously hidden system updates"
CPL\Windows update\Restore hidden updates\

This would work really well with flyout submenus for those Contral Panel items.

But then, it would start looking too much like XP.

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Fri, 10 Jul 2009 02:09:00 Z

Nobody is forcing the businesses and old people (kinda the same thing ^^) to move to Win7. Stick with XP all that you like. The amount of WinVista/7-only apps is small, for now. :P

+1 to Nano about Moore's Law.

Also about businesses: they don't understand that the new features (UI features like Aero Peek/Snap, or security features like redesigned UAC) actually help those businesses by increasing security and staff productivity (didn't believe it 'till I tried ^^). So, yeah, stick with XP, see if I care :P
____, our school only switched from 2k this winter (you don't know the feeling of using a 9-year old OS at school, when at home you have Win7 RC. It's mindblowing.)

Regards,
Kristaps.

P.S.: Epic shoop is epic.

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Fri, 10 Jul 2009 03:36:12 Z

Just have to say that the audio mixer is a lot better than it is in XP, where in win7 you can adjust the volume of other programs without turining all the other programs down. Great feature!

the only thing is that i miss the XP style audio mixer. Only because in one of my laptops it let me control the volume of the hardware as well as the software... normally, it was just wave, line in, line out, CD audio,, and then the main application volume. then in vista it was hardware, windows sounds then the programs you were running. its kind of nice of how they are continueing the audio mixer from vista in Windows 7, but i miss some elements from the XP audio mixer because now my notebooks PC speaker cannot go as loud. the new sound mixer disables certain special features within the speakers.

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Fri, 10 Jul 2009 03:43:38 Z

I don't know if this will help you, but my audio driver seems to integrate at some level with 7's audio control stack. If I open the volume mixer, then click the speaker icon (the actual image above the master slider), it opens my "Speaker Properties" window, which has a levels tab, which has all the hardware components that XP used to show in the mixer.

Also (and I'm pretty sure this is where my sound card driver comes in, rather than a feature of Windows), the dialog has an "Enahancements" tab with awesome things. My favorite so far is the one that does Voice Cancellation.

My opinion is fairly positive about the new mixer, but I wish it would open wide enough to show all the items without a horizontal scrollbar.

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Fri, 10 Jul 2009 08:13:31 Z

After a lot of fight, I must say: BUG report: RC, but no Beta, it is almos impossible to change a second network to other than public and unidentified network.

Every windows was kind a nightmare to set networks (W98SE, XP, Vista) and sadly, W7 is not the exception.

talking about having no options:

I use RC and Google Chrome as defaulf browser and every time there is a java error on my browser, my laptop automaticaly shuts down.

Another bug that i experienced: most of the times when i choose to remember my user and password i have to retype them again; it's quite enoying, because I use lots of applications (not all of them online; IE shares the same problem, so i's not related just to google chrome) that requires authentification.

I will probably come back with more issues!

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Fri, 10 Jul 2009 16:29:08 Z

My two cents on the BCD boot stuff:
When I first installed win7 on a spare computer, the installer made a 100MB "System Reserved" partition that held BCD.

I liked the RC so much I put it on my "primary home or business pc" with 4 other systems (3 xp, 1 ubuntu) already on there. The installer put BCD on the (then) 1st partition (on the disk I was putting win7 on), which is a shared partition for all 5 systems with data I frequently use on there. I had to add a drive letter to mount the drive in win7 because it recognized the partition as the one with BCD on it and hid it.

MICROSOFT, make the system installer always make this "System Reserved" partition, so we don't have to add drive letters in win7 to access shared data because win7 had to install BCD on there. Resize the new win7 partition to accomodate this "System Reserved" partition if you need to!

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Fri, 10 Jul 2009 17:11:16 Z

I believe there is a XP transformation pack designed for windows 2000 to mimic XP's looks. It was made by the guy at this site: www.windowsxlive .net

Try running it on win7. Might help.

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Fri, 10 Jul 2009 20:44:34 Z

Progress bars should be shown on the taskbar while installing progress for at least programs that install with Windows Installer, similar to the way progress bars show for Internet Explorer downloads and Windows Explorer file operations. I like the idea of showing a progress bar on the icon but it would be better to expand it to more programs, rather than just IE and Windows Explorer (as far as I've seen).

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Fri, 10 Jul 2009 20:54:15 Z

Progress bars should be shown on the taskbar while installing progress for at least programs that install with Windows Installer, similar to the way progress bars show for Internet Explorer downloads and Windows Explorer file operations. I like the idea of showing a progress bar on the icon but it would be better to expand it to more programs, rather than just IE and Windows Explorer (as far as I've seen).

I agree. Also could this functonality be added to Firefox downloads? And also could you choose (if you have multiple downloads running) which progress bar to display on the taskbar?

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Fri, 10 Jul 2009 22:44:34 Z

Add option to automatically change the theme from a selected list of themes after a user-specified amount of time, just like the option to automatically change the desktop background after a certain amount of time. It would be really nice because a lot of users would probably like the ability to automatically cycle between a select list of their favorite themes. Also please add an option to shuffle through selected images when automatically switching them if it isn't already there. I was getting tired of seeing my images in the same order every time (it was getting too predictable). Nice aesthetic features so far, just a bit more room for more innovative ones that users want :).

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Fri, 10 Jul 2009 22:49:11 Z

JoelbX, adopting new features is available to anyone, it's up to the Mozilla devs to add them.

Syntax3141, click the checkbox labeled "Shuffle" next to the dropdown box to shuffle images.

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Fri, 10 Jul 2009 23:40:18 Z

I was copying my music collection onto a NTFS drive and I got this error because there was a character in the filename ("?") that's not legal. I got this error:

Now, it wants me to "Specify a different file name" but I have no place to do that. And also, since I'm copying the whole music folder, it's not convenient for me to rename this and go on.

Fix this UI bug please! :)

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Sat, 11 Jul 2009 01:22:18 Z

OK, what about letting any app, be it IE, explorer or other app, choose (if multiple progress bars running) which one is displayed in the Taskbar? I believe this would be a great feature and is one of my biggest quirks with this progress-bar-in-taskbar thing.

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Sat, 11 Jul 2009 01:32:26 Z

Thanks for the pc power options tip Vistaline, it is much appreciated.

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Sat, 11 Jul 2009 02:20:29 Z

We don't need an OS designed to protect home users from themselves.
ROFL, so true! :'(
Lara and Kristaps, hello. Hey, I am a home user but I fix putors. Just a short note to say that I find W-7 to be really nice. One has to learn a few new ways of doing things but there is this facility in the human mind. Office 2007 is another thing now, so different.

Be good and enjoy.

Actually I think Office 2007 is actually one of the best things they have designed since Windows XP. It is very cool and fast to use once you find out where all the file menu items are and I far prefer it to 2003. I had both on my computer for awhile until I just uninstalled 2003 because I just didn't ever use it.

I even prefer Outlook 2007 which is far better than 2003 although I wish that it had the ribbon toolbar too. I have no idea why they don't. The icons are teeny tiny and the "large icons" are ugly.

Cheers,

Lara

lforbes

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Sat, 11 Jul 2009 02:45:08 Z

I even prefer Outlook 2007 which is far better than 2003 although I wish that it had the ribbon toolbar too. I have no idea why they don't.

Pretty much meaningless trivia but it is because Outlook is such a deeply embedded element of corporate e-mail. According to the developers who spoke at the Office 2007 release event in Albuquerque a couple years ago, there was a concern (based upon focus groups and other analyses) that it represented too fundamental a shift in what has bcome the core business application, especially given the radical re-tooling of Word, Excel, etc.. The statement at the time was that Office 2007 would introduce the ribon concept and that it would be added to the remaining apps (Outlook, Project, etc.) with the next version (now Office 2010). Old comments but straight from the Office 2007 development team at the time. Interesting event and also the source of a free copy Office 2007 Professional - hopefully there will be comparable events for the release of Office 2010....

Stephen

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Sat, 11 Jul 2009 07:05:27 Z

Bug: Deleting something normally changes the recycle bin's state to a full icon. If using custom icons, the icon does not change unless the desktop is refreshed.

da page :B

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Sat, 11 Jul 2009 07:10:16 Z

I don't particularly mind the loss of the "Up" button, but I would like to be able to have it back, or the option to have it back. Also the option to keep the full address on (e.g the whole C:\Users\ etc rather than Local Disc > Users etc) even if using Aero would be another nice thing. Right now you need to double click to bring it up.

Sometimes I miss these two things after a good ten years. . _.

da page :B

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Sat, 11 Jul 2009 07:20:48 Z

Since Microsoft's intention is to make Windows 7 easy to use, is it possible to change the terminology "Run as administrator" to something that does not provoke the reaction "What??? I am an administrator!" in everyone who does not know what this is supposed to mean. Maybe it should be "Run as privileged" or something like that.

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Sat, 11 Jul 2009 07:22:24 Z

C) Toolbar in explorer can no longer be customizable. If I don´t want the "Burn" button, I can´t remove it. If I want to put copy / past icons there, for easier use, I can´t. It´s the way it is, like it or not, the user can´t change it.

I think there's a problem with the folder views in general. I try removing the "#" and "Title" columns or views, only to find them to appear again. I want to view picture folders as lists - only to find them changed back to large thumbnails when I'm not looking.

Another thing, the loss of 'date modified' in Video and Music is annoying. But oh! It's back when in Documents!

What would be good is the option to change how Pictures/Music etc. are viewed, and have those setting applied to all folders that Windows "thinks" they fall under. Not have Windows decide how all our Music folders are viewed etc.

da page :B

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Sat, 11 Jul 2009 08:04:05 Z

What would be good is the option to change how Pictures/Music etc. are viewed, and have those setting applied to all folders that Windows "thinks" they fall under. Not have Windows decide how all our Music folders are viewed etc.
Set your properties in a window then click "Organize > Folder settings > View > Apply to Folders." This button should apply the customization to any folder that is using a matching default folder type template (documents, images...) the next time they are opened. It leaves customized folders alone (I think), for those you'll have to change the settings to the template by going to "Organize > Properties > Customize [tab]" and using the combobox. Hasn't failed me yet and all my folders (docs, images, and all) are set to details view with custom column headers, so I'd know if anything changed.

Another thing, the loss of 'date modified' in Video and Music is annoying. But oh! It's back when in Documents!
For most people datemodified isn't that useful for music (which is usually downloaded/ripped and left alone) and images (datecreated would be a bigger deal). Documents, on the other hand, are usually not as static and tend to be modified more often, which is probably why datemodified was toggled on.

Also the option to keep the full address on (e.g the whole C:\Users\ etc rather than Local Disc > Users etc) even if using Aero would be another nice thing. Right now you need to double click to bring it up.
Two clicks if you want to use the icon, one click if you click in the blank space in the bar. :)

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Sat, 11 Jul 2009 08:55:21 Z

A translation error in the Dutch language pack: under "Eigenschappen van lokale schijf"/Extra, the descriptions for defragmentation and backup have been interchanged.

I could not find another location to report this simple error. Wouldn't it be useful to have a separate thread or feedback mechanism for such straightforward error reports?

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Sat, 11 Jul 2009 16:06:03 Z

I agree

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Sat, 11 Jul 2009 16:25:35 Z

Why would you want to have your computer online while the install process is underway? That is a VERY vulnerable time for Windows and the perfect opportunity for viruses to get in!

Amazingly to me, is that win7 had drivers for your wireless card during installation, mine required I install drivers off its disc once it was installed.

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Sat, 11 Jul 2009 22:06:27 Z

Even though the folder properties are set to open each folder in the same window, navigating via the right side of the window brings up new windows. Navigating using the left side does not. No fun having to close 6 or 8 unwanted extra windows just trying to get to a particular folder. Both the control panel Folder Options and the setting for the current window are set to open in same folder, but it simply doesn't.

Also the absence of "up" or "previous" buttons is unforgivable.

I've also given up trying to use single click to select. Worked fine in earlier MS OS'es, but too many things don't work properly in both the RC and the Beta to be usable. In single click, you need to hover to select or expand, but when that's broken, you're stuck.

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Sat, 11 Jul 2009 23:01:34 Z

bump :(
No devs around for an answer?

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Sun, 12 Jul 2009 02:00:54 Z

Actually this is not a UI bug.

There is a little quirk with filenames in EVERY operating system out there, that the filename can't have any of these characters:

\

/

:

*

?

"

<

>

|

You will have to rename the file.

- JoelbX

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Sun, 12 Jul 2009 02:42:45 Z

While the overall look & feel off Win7 RC 7100 is good, there are too many niggling problems for me to install the final build.
1) Once more Microsoft has changed the basic interfaces of the OC from a prior version, this time causing far too high a level of retraining and reorientation.
2) The basic file structure and access to same has changed again rendering prior versions useless. Kludges are there, but no direct interface.
3) The basic os / peripheral interface has once more been changed, rendering any peripheral older than a couple years useless.
4) The manufacturers of peripherals have been forced into writing new interface files for "older" devices or abandon them. Again a kludge exists.
5) The hardware requirements necessary to effectively run win7 renders "older" pcs obsolete.
6) Win7 has moved farther away from a true operating system to a glorified application warehouse. What a media player, screen capture utility, sticky note, and other applets have to do with an os is beyond me.
7) Upgradng from prior versions requires, for all intents and purposes, wiping your hard drive and starting over. Then all previous applications need to be reinstalled, assuming one still has the original discs. And providing the apps will work with Win7.
8) Creating a home network and sharing files is harder than it was in XP.

Interestingly, Linux does not require reformats, all new drivers, applications, hardware, or training. I was able to load Mandriva on a 700 MHz PIII and run hardware designed for MSdos and Win3.1 with no problems. At least the versions of Mandriva and Unbuntu I've used. I don't use a Mac, but from what I've heard, MacOS also does not require a clean install to work correctly. Seems like MS is getting even more behind the leading edge.

One last thing. Why is it I can still get all the parts and equipment I need to keep my daughter's 11 year old car running like a top, but I can't do the same for a 2 year old PC?

Für Elise - Support the Heart & Breast Cancer Foundations.

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Sun, 12 Jul 2009 13:14:55 Z

When exploring from left panel that shows expansion on the right, if one clicks on a folder that is in lower screen, it expands but stays where it is rather than scrolling up to be in view, thus requiring manual scroll. This is a (unuserfriendly-bug) that I detailed in the Beta, carried thru to the RC.

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Sun, 12 Jul 2009 14:14:40 Z

Will there be scroll wheel functionality on the superbar. Instead of having to move your mouse over the preview thumbnails, why can't we SIMPLY use the scroll wheel to move through windows? It makes sense and saves on time. I really, really hope Microsoft considers this as a high priority user interface change.

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Sun, 12 Jul 2009 17:16:46 Z

I seriously doubt that a mod pack created for Win2k will work on Win7 .

Regards,
Kristaps.

P.S.: Epic shoop is epic.

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Sun, 12 Jul 2009 18:59:15 Z

+1 for thumb switching w/ scroll wheel :)

Regards,
Kristaps.

P.S.: Epic shoop is epic.

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Sun, 12 Jul 2009 22:01:27 Z

Hello,

I'm new to this Forum and new among the beta testers :).
I'm very much impressed by Windows 7 . I've been a windows user ever
since I owned a computer :) [and it's been a long time].

Now , Suggestions :

1)Animated Network icon [very important for me:) ]
2)I can't change the display settings much , special effects and all [Change the shadows of icons,filenames etc..]
   -This feature was available in Win XP [don't know about Vista]
   -Because of the shadow, most of the time it is hard/irritating to the eye to read the filenames in desktop.
   -To know what i am talking about, change your desktop background [try different types of backgrounds- with lots of colours,waterfalls etc..]
3)I'm not able to change the Partitions i created while installing the OS , at time of installation i'm not allowed to create Non-primary partitions.
   - All the partitions [maximum 3] created at time of installation are NTFS [since all are primary partitions].
   -After installation , My Computer->Right Click->Format [I can only choose NTFS, not allowed to change to FAT,exFAT or any other]
             -This is very important for me, I don't want all my partitions to be primary/NTFS.

*I'm using Win7 RC Build 7100 , not sure if the above mentioned problems have been resolved in later builds

Sad that WinXP mode is not included in Home edition :(

kamalesh

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Sun, 12 Jul 2009 22:49:05 Z

I seriously doubt that a mod pack created for Win2k will work on Win7 .

Yeah, same here!!! Just said that so win2000 people know that they can enjoy XP's looks too!

- JoelbX

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Sun, 12 Jul 2009 22:50:55 Z

Yeah, same here!!! Just said that so win2000 people know that they can enjoy XP's looks too!

Sorry, mate, you're seven years late xD

Regards,
Kristaps.

P.S.: Epic shoop is epic.

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Sun, 12 Jul 2009 23:32:45 Z

yep sure am. Maybe someone out there is brave enough to try using it on win7!

- JoelbX

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Mon, 13 Jul 2009 12:58:30 Z

IE8 problem/bug.
From time to time I get an "Internet Explorer has encountered an error and has to close." If I want to see more it says that mshtml.dll has produced the error. The problem is that if I click on close nothing is happening - IE remains open displaying same pages. But if I just download something, I lose the download. Strange, the same problem I have also in XP and Vista, not only in W7.
I have to repeat, as I try now the beta from NIS2010, that any antivirus/security suite I install on W7 has a major impact of how it works. Far bigger that same antivirus on XP on same system. It becames extremelly slower to boot, to open programs or move/copy/delete files. This is the 4-th antivirus I test ( W7 compatible ), with same results. Only your last antivirus - still beta seems to not have an impact on W7. But, this is not an antivirus, but Windows Defender with some extra settings and a new skin.

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Mon, 13 Jul 2009 14:04:57 Z

I am impressed with the core of windows 7; responsive and rich in features.
I hope the online driver base is incorporated in the final release.
I want to suggest that the idea of signed visual themes is just going to invite hacks to bypass it. That being said, I wonder how many windows xp systems were compromised by that particular hack.
Furthermore perhaps a site location can be devoted to receiving user created themes that can be digitally signed with credits to the authors. That way we can skin our desktop with a legit theme but far more variety of themes.
Besides I'm always a sucker for eye candy and I have seen such beautiful works people have done reskinning windows xp. And a lot of people get sick of the same microsoft ones over the lifecycle of the os's.
If microsoft wants to continue its domination over other systems i beleive as a consumer it shouldn't worry about loosing face by user manipulation.
And I will NEVER upgrade my license until I start seeing features I had to manually implant into xp. I shouldn't have to.
We want windows the way we want to see it. Whether it be black aero glass or a mock - os x. We have to look at it.

I installed a audio video codec - the russian community one. One of the most complete codec packs on earth. I suggest microsoft look at this and simular packs as these are a necessity of multimedia useage. Or perhaps microsoft will consider including the generic super video / audio codecs for play.
My recent exxperiences with the default nvidia driver are frustrating. I primarily use a tv screen and there is no support for aspect ratio tuning to strech videos ti full screen orr it doesn't fill the video screen. Black borders lead to burns in the picture tube.
Frankly the latest beta driver from nvidia is buggy. The flicker filter resets on each reboot and ive downloaded 2 90mb driver packs from nvidia. shame they don't pay attention to detail. The physx engine icon in control panel (this is win 7 RC BTW) which is bunled with the driver pack when clicked goe's to the control applet of nvidia display properties and not the physx dialog.
Dis windows beast needs to be tamed lol

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Mon, 13 Jul 2009 16:06:36 Z

Ever since Windows XP I have suggested the same thing. I am an IT Professional and have worked with Windows since Windows 3. To me the biggest issue gets passed on from version to version, it annoys me and my fellow IT Professionals profoundly. It is as apparent as a big zit on your nose, yet goes un resolved with every release. Okay her it is.

Microsoft calls the software; Windows Professional, but what does this mean? It doesn't meet my needs out of the box.

Why not have two versions, one called Microsoft Basic or something like that, the other Microsoft for Professionals. See the difference. Let me explain it further. I Hate having to customize every version of Windows that I use. I spend an hour or so turning on file extensions, un-checking simple Network Sharing, removing the checks that hide system files and folders, and turning off all the nanny nags. I know how to setup networks I have a Domain server at home and at work, I know what installing an software is going to do to the operation system, I don't want to see a dialog box that asks me if I know what I am doing. If I screw up the PC I know how to reimage it or install it again from scratch. I know where my files are stored, please don't try and hide them like Apple does. This is why I use Windows instead of Apple in the first place because I know how to use DOS, and manage files and folders, and how to get rid of viruses.

Please treat me like a Journeyman not an apprentice. Give me an operating system that you know I already know how to use. Why do you think Linux has been so popular, one big reason is because it gives the experienced users what they need and not all the Wizards and hidden nanny nags to try and protect you from yourself.

This is the Windows that I want as an IT Professional. Windows 2000 gave us pretty much this. By Windows XP you were already trying too hard to make it look like an Apple. Don't be afraid to have a Professional Version of Windows. Go ahead and make the version for beginners, they need this version, I don't.

Too me Widows 7 looks and feels just like Vista. Someone forgot what Windows Explorer looks like and how good it was to use. Why is that?
Without some big changes to Windows 7 to make it more like Windows 2000, XP I will pass on it and stick with Windows XP. Since XP just works. I don't have to dig to find what I am after I don't see how all the changes in Windows Vista and 7 make the OS better than XP at all. In fact it is just the opposite it makes things worse.

Thanks for listening.

Red

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Mon, 13 Jul 2009 16:31:19 Z

Too bad that in WMP's "small view" (or whatever it's called) the "show list" button was removed. It was way more useful than album art/visualization :(

Regards,
Kristaps.

P.S.: Epic shoop is epic.

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Mon, 13 Jul 2009 16:36:06 Z

derosnec, thanks. However anyone who has used Windows for a LONG time and knows how to use computers for more than just watching a video or the web knows that what I said it true. Do you think the IT groups in large businesses need the family home network feature. Go ahead and give this version for the Basic consumer - home new user, but don't try and give it to me I won't use it period. Like it or not Windows is in almost every business and to setup a version of Windows in a Business environment takes a lot of work. Just turning off all the home basic features to allow the OS to work in a business Network is a joke.

I agree grandma needs a very basic version of Windows to read e-mails and view the family photos, but then again she doesn't work with them every day at work and need to get real work done does she?

Red

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Mon, 13 Jul 2009 16:46:12 Z

The feature is there, but the button is gone.

In the small view (I think it's called the 'Now Playing View'), right-click somewhere and choose "Show List".

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Mon, 13 Jul 2009 17:46:30 Z

Thank you :) Really, it is.

However, why did they swap the previous "black" look of the list for white? It looks totally weird, since the "now playing view" is black/dark-ish

Regards,
Kristaps.

P.S.: Epic shoop is epic.

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Mon, 13 Jul 2009 18:09:46 Z

Hi all,

'Import Pictures and Videos' in Windows 7 (several builds including 7229 x64 that I'm using right now) seems to be faulty.

I've tried several builds and the latest I'm running right now is 7229 x64 and when I use 'Import Pictures and Videos' I get errors whilst copying pictures from my Canon EOS 400d, my EOS 40D and when I copy videos from my Panasonic SDR-H40. When I use the retry option the file that was previously said to be corrupt or something like that turns out to be just fine. Sometimes I have to press retry several times for the same file.

It happens allmost every time when I copy files to my pc. Copying data from and to a USB stick works great, the problem occurs with 2 DSLR cameras with different 133, 100 and 45 speed compact flash cards and a HD videocamera so I'd say it's safe to say the USB ports are fine and the camera's are as well.

How likely is it that by coincidence I have 3 pretty recent devices, all working great in Vista that have exactly the same problem in Win7?

My guess is there is something wrong with 'Import Pictures and Videos'.

Even more so because all 3 devices are basically usb connected flash drives/hard disk and when I open them in explorer as such and select all the pictures/videos and copy them to wherever I want them on my pc, it works without any error and every time!

Only with the 'import pictures and videos' does the problem occur!

All worked fine in Vista x64 so it must be a 'import pictures and videos' in Win7 glitch. Has anyone else noticed this?

Patrick

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Mon, 13 Jul 2009 18:10:41 Z

Ever since Windows XP I have suggested the same thing. I am an IT Professional and have worked with Windows since Windows 3. To me the biggest issue gets passed on from version to version, it annoys me and my fellow IT Professionals profoundly. It is as apparent as a big zit on your nose, yet goes un resolved with every release. Okay her it is.

Microsoft calls the software; Windows Professional, but what does this mean? It doesn't meet my needs out of the box.

Why not have two versions, one called Microsoft Basic or something like that, the other Microsoft for Professionals. See the difference. Let me explain it further. I Hate having to customize every version of Windows that I use. I spend an hour or so turning on file extensions, un-checking simple Network Sharing, removing the checks that hide system files and folders, and turning off all the nanny nags. I know how to setup networks I have a Domain server at home and at work, I know what installing an software is going to do to the operation system, I don't want to see a dialog box that asks me if I know what I am doing. If I screw up the PC I know how to reimage it or install it again from scratch. I know where my files are stored, please don't try and hide them like Apple does. This is why I use Windows instead of Apple in the first place because I know how to use DOS, and manage files and folders, and how to get rid of viruses.

Please treat me like a Journeyman not an apprentice. Give me an operating system that you know I already know how to use. Why do you think Linux has been so popular, one big reason is because it gives the experienced users what they need and not all the Wizards and hidden nanny nags to try and protect you from yourself.

This is the Windows that I want as an IT Professional. Windows 2000 gave us pretty much this. By Windows XP you were already trying too hard to make it look like an Apple. Don't be afraid to have a Professional Version of Windows. Go ahead and make the version for beginners, they need this version, I don't.

Too me Widows 7 looks and feels just like Vista. Someone forgot what Windows Explorer looks like and how good it was to use. Why is that?
Without some big changes to Windows 7 to make it more like Windows 2000, XP I will pass on it and stick with Windows XP. Since XP just works. I don't have to dig to find what I am after I don't see how all the changes in Windows Vista and 7 make the OS better than XP at all. In fact it is just the opposite it makes things worse.

Thanks for listening.

Red

Hi Red

I moved your post to our official feedback thread so that the Windows 7 Team and Developers would be sure to see your comments.

Hope this helps.

Ronnie Vernon MVP
Forum Moderator

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Mon, 13 Jul 2009 18:58:06 Z

@Cristi -

there are many suggestions concerning good, free AV solutions with low impact on system resources. I could recommend you Avira Antivir Personal, for example. But what you wrote about MSE - "Only your last antivirus [well, it's not mine :-D]- still beta seems to not have an impact on W7. But, this is not an antivirus, but Windows Defender with some extra settings and a new skin." - isn't true. 1st, its definitions are updated twice a day (often), Windows Defender's are updated twice or only once a week. That doesn't look like a new skin only. 2d, I did various test runs with fictitious virus/troian attacks and was quite happy with the results. Good detection rate and no false alerts. I won't go on names, but some competitors' products were definitely worse. 3d, some AV testing institutes came to comparable results. So, don't draw conclusions that are, at least, a bit precipitated.

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Mon, 13 Jul 2009 19:46:54 Z

@Ronnie Vernon

You moved Red's post to official feedback thread , and not others' ?

That looks like sheer ignorance to me, atleast you should have send

him a private message instead of posting it in public.

To me, it looks like you people don't give a rat's a$$ about other users.

In my case, i'm not an amateur user either , i've been using windows for arround

10 yrs. And i'm not a kid who knows just to browse and play games.

So please, make sure that u try to let the developers know about everyone's points [you

can actually sort out different points from different users' posts ,prepare a list and give it to them.]

It's time consuming , but that's what forum moderators are for :) , not just for editing

users' posts and banning users :P.

Regards,

kamalesh

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Mon, 13 Jul 2009 19:47:37 Z

Over the 4th of July weekend starting on Friday, I installed Windows 7 RC on an HP Media Center computer with 2200 Mhz AMD Athlon 64x2 Dual Core processor, 2 GB of memory, and a Hauppage TV tuner. The system had previously been running under 32-bit Windows XP Media Center SP2. The switchover took several days, mainly because of the need to move hundreds of GB of files to a 1 TB external disk over a Firewire connection. Here are my experiences.

(1) First I downloaded the 32-bit Windows 7 Ultimate .iso file from the Microsoft site and burned it to a DVD. Then I ran the MS Windows 7 Upgrade Advisor program to see what problems might occur. A few minor problems showed up (e.g., compatibility with a Targus Bluetooth Adapter), but I decided to proceed.

(2) I backed up the XP system to a 1 TB external drive connected by Firewire. There were around 200 GB of files on the system, so this backup consumed the first day.

(3) One cannot do a simple upgrade from Windows XP to Windows 7, so it was necessary to do a clean installation and then reinstall various software. First, I ran the Easy Transfer wizard provided on the Windows 7 DVD, which seems to be the next best thing to an upgrade. It allows one to recover much of the XP installation after Windows 7 is installed. However, for my system, which had a lot of stuff on it, this made a big file (160 GB) that required most of a day to write across Firewire.

(4) Now I was all set to do the Windows 7 install. From the screen made by the DVD, I selected Install. The installation system read the files successfully, then began the "Expansion" phase. On item 4 of the expansion, it halted with error 0X80070005 and killed the installation. Coming out of the install, the system operating with XP seemed OK. I did a web search on the error and found that it seems to happen a lot with Windows upgrades and installations and has something to do with registry problems. I tried several suggested remedys and rebooted each time, including changing permissions in the registry, all to no avail. This iterative process took most of another day. Finally, I tried installing directly from the Windows 7 DVD without allowing Windows XP to start up. This worked.

(5) Windows 7 installed cleanly, rebooted, went through the requests for setup information, rebooted again, and automatically went through procedures to update various drivers. Then it reboted again, seemed to start OK, but then a set of small varicolored vertical lines appeard at the bottom of the monitor screen, grew upward, the screem turned white, and the system was unresponsive. I forced a reboot several times and tried various remedies with the same result. Finally, I forced a screen pixel size of 600x800, and was able to regain control. There seemed to be some incompatibility between the video driver that Windows 7 had downloaded and my 19" flatscreen monitor at the higher pixel resolutions. I fond a compromise setting (1152x864) with less resolution than I had previously been using, and settled for that. Windows 7 was up and running.

(6) I ran the Easy Transfer Wizard from the DVD again to put back items from the XP system. It complained that I did not have enough disk space for the restore, so I had to delete and transver some files before the transfer would run. It ran for several hours and then crashed, apparently because I had taken the DVD out of the drive after I started the program. I ran it again (with the DVD in the drive) and it seemed to work. Because of the double install, it duplicated some files with "(1)" added to the file name, but did not significantly increase the size of files installed on the C: drive. It is clear that the estimated size of disk space needed by the Easy Transfer Wizard is a gross overestimate. Easy Transfer provided settings for some of the previously installed programs, but did not re-install them. This had to be done "by hand".

(7) I tried the Windows 7 version of Media Center with the Hauppage TV tuner in my machine, and it seems to work very well, with a better user interface than the XP version of Media Center.

(8) Things that broke with Windows 7 RC (that I have noticed so far): my Targus Bluetooth Adapter, Windows Movie Maker, the connection to my Epson scanner. I fixed the Movie Maker problem by installing MovieMaker 2.5, available from Microsoft.

(9) There seems to be one additional glitch. When Windows 7 reboots the RealTech ethernet adapter comes up in an inactive state, and there is no ehternet connection. Going into Device Manager, disabling and then enabling the device removes the problem. Rolling back to a previous version of the driver also removes the problem, which seems to be in the latest version of the driver, which gets loaded as part of the updates.

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Mon, 13 Jul 2009 20:00:44 Z

Yo, no hatin' on Ronnie, he's one of the most active mods here, and he's done much more here than you (him being a MVP and all).

And how is this Windows7-related?

Regards,
Kristaps.

P.S.: Epic shoop is epic.

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Mon, 13 Jul 2009 20:12:10 Z

@Ronnie Vernon

You moved Red's post to official feedback thread , and not others' ?

That looks like sheer ignorance to me, atleast you should have send

him a private message instead of posting it in public.

To me, it looks like you people don't give a rat's a$$ about other users.

In my case, i'm not an amateur user either , i've been using windows for arround

10 yrs. And i'm not a kid who knows just to browse and play games.

So please, make sure that u try to let the developers know about everyone's points [you

can actually sort out different points from different users' posts ,prepare a list and give it to them.]

It's time consuming , but that's what forum moderators are for :) , not just for editing

users' posts and banning users :P.

Regards,

kamalesh

Hi Kamalesh

We must follow very strict guidelines before merging posts to this comments thread. We also do not have Private Message capabilities in these forums.

We also do not edit feedback threads since that could change what the member intended to convey in their feedback.

All of the messages are passed on to the the developers exactly as they appear. If you have a comment to make, then simply post it in your own words and in a professional manner.

If you need information about how these forums work, go to the top/right corner and click the Need help with forums? (FAQ) link.

Thank you for understanding.

Ronnie Vernon MVP
Forum Moderator

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Mon, 13 Jul 2009 20:31:16 Z

I installed Windows 7 RC after I was sure that there was an anti.virus fonctionning for it.
Avira does the trick.
I think that this operating system is going to be great.
It is already better in RC status, than Vista after the Service Pack.
I put it onto a notebook and everything worked.
I only had to download Nvidia drivers because the video card was recognized as VGA.
It's fast and really good.
I just can't wait to have the final version.
Too bad that in Europe would probably cost more than in the USA.

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Mon, 13 Jul 2009 20:44:06 Z

I just hit the ESC key.

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Tue, 14 Jul 2009 04:37:34 Z

watch thisss :S

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Tue, 14 Jul 2009 06:59:49 Z

@Sanmartin -
In an older post I've already mentioned that I've tryied Avira and Kasperky - both with same impact as NIS2010. Here I've just mentionet that NIS is the 4th antivirus I try. I didn't belive it was need to mention again.
About Microsoft antivirus, aka Security Essentials - it's still in tests, but I still consider it as before - Just a better Windows Defender. I've made also some tests, with files who were infected or were considered false positives by other antivirus. Me I'am happy with the fact it has no impact on W7 , but unhappy with test results - no virus found in 30 files I've tested ( 5 false positives and 25 viruses and trojans ). But this is not a W7 problem so I will not discuss here. I just wonder where is the old good RAV before Microsoft buy it...

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Tue, 14 Jul 2009 09:02:40 Z

W7 32bit version works well for me in terms of operating my applications (etc etc)

However, 64 bit is quite another kettle of fish:-

Laptop display does not return to normal intensity after dimming

Lost all access (both me and the System) to Windows executables in Sys32 - can't even run process to change authorities - and so on.
This appears to be a known issue - something to do with Homegroup? - this side of the fence.

With OS and applications becoming even more hungry, 64bit operating systems seem to be more important / essential and "the way to go" rather than a specialised small corner of the market.

But, W7 64bit need sharpening up considerably.

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Tue, 14 Jul 2009 13:39:45 Z

@Sanmartin -
In an older post I've already mentioned that I've tryied Avira and Kasperky - both with same impact as NIS2010. Here I've just mentionet that NIS is the 4th antivirus I try. I didn't belive it was need to mention again.
About Microsoft antivirus, aka Security Essentials - it's still in tests, but I still consider it as before - Just a better Windows Defender. I've made also some tests, with files who were infected or were considered false positives by other antivirus. Me I'am happy with the fact it has no impact on W7 , but unhappy with test results - no virus found in 30 files I've tested ( 5 false positives and 25 viruses and trojans ). But this is not a W7 problem so I will not discuss here. I just wonder where is the old good RAV before Microsoft buy it...

Actually, since people are testing MSE on Windows 7 machines, and it is being designed as much to be a Windows 7 companion as anything else, I think it is prefectly legitimate that we ask what 30 files consitituted false positives and undetected trojans/viruses. That is certainly the opposite of my experience and the oppositie of all of the initial testing I have seen (see http://www.pcworld.com/article/167325/microsoft_security_essentials_the_first_test_results_are_in.html for an example). If there is some devastating flaw running on a Windows 7 machine, you should be willing to let people know which false positives and which trojans/viruses so that others can run their own tests under controlled environments. I'd really like to see these details.

It is also not simply "a better Windows Defender" unless you are willing to call all straight-up low impact anti-virus apps "a better Windows Defender." Misrepresenting the product is really no more appropriate than others around here misrepresenting upgrade policies, when Technet members will get the RTM, etc. It makes it difficult for those who come here looking for advice, and information, as part of their decision making processes.

Stephen

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Tue, 14 Jul 2009 13:49:19 Z

I installed Windows 7 RC after I was sure that there was an anti.virus fonctionning for it.
Avira does the trick.
I think that this operating system is going to be great.
It is already better in RC status, than Vista after the Service Pack.
I put it onto a notebook and everything worked.
I only had to download Nvidia drivers because the video card was recognized as VGA.
It's fast and really good.
I just can't wait to have the final version.
Too bad that in Europe would probably cost more than in the USA.

I tested AVIRA on win7 64b and 32b. It worked without any issue.

AV-comparatives.org published a test (whose results are downloadable as PDF) in january or february. I shows Avira as one of the best antivirus (altought with more false positives than others).

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Tue, 14 Jul 2009 17:38:09 Z

I created a New thread - Part 6 to continue this conversation and locked this thread.

Thanks for your comments!

-Tony Mann

Windows Client IT Pro Audience Manager for Web Forums, Windows Client Forum Owner