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Sun, 03 May 2009 00:10:16 Z

Hey there,

I have been testing Windows 7 Beta for a while and I am please with it.

I use Media Center a lot and have a Media Extender.

Having 2 TV/Sat tuner combo, I record lots of movies and my favourites shows by using the TV guides... this works great. I have now over 50 movies and shows recorded on an external drive.

One feature that I would love to see is to be able to "Tag" the recorded TV or Movies that would tell you if you have watched the show or not. Adding the Date previously viewed would also be a good add-on.

Hope to see that feature in the future.

keep up the good work.

Cheers

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Sun, 03 May 2009 00:24:06 Z

Dan -

Pretty good idea - you might want to post your suggestion to the Have Comments on the Windows 7 Beta (part2) thread. Posts made there are regularly collected and forwarded to the development team. Stuff posted otherwise can get lost in the shuffle.

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Thu, 07 May 2009 00:07:29 Z

Hi all, I've installed the Win7 RC1 7100 and have again been disappointed by the lack of 802.1x authentication methods available. As usual we get the PEAP and SmartCard TLS type authentication methods, but where is the EAP-TTLS-PAP? The reason I would really like for various methods to be available on Win7 is so we don't have to install SecureW2 on about 20,000 student's laptops every year in order to get them connected to our campus wireless network and to the eduroam. Mac OSX Leopard supports TTLS, LEAP, TLS, PEAP, EAP-FAST out of the box, is it that difficult to implement in Win7? at least some of those authentication methods, most common would, be nice?

I'm hoping that this post will be read by appropriate person within microsoft and will be given some serious thought. I'm sure there are plenty of universities and other companies and instituitions around the globe that wish that they didn't have to rely on third party 802.1x supplicants.

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Fri, 08 May 2009 16:28:00 Z

I have a dual monitor system - the video card is an NVidia GEForce 8800 with two DVI outputs. I use the second monitor sparingly. My BIOS boots to the "primary" monitor, and during the install of RC1, most of the dialog occurred on this monitor. I have set up a dual boot system with Vista and W7 and Vista runs just fine on the primary, and I can turn on the secondary at will. So far so good.

However, during the last phase of the install of RC1 (this also occured with the first beta), the final output and startup of RC1 occurred on the secondary (!) monitor. It first seemed as though the install hung - the primary simply showed a black screen even though it had been active thrtought the install. I turned on the secondary, and there was all the final install dialog display. I finished the setup there, and then set my main monitor to be primary and now all is well.

The fact that some of the install output displays on the secondary monitor is a problem. The entire install should display on the BIOS boot monitor, I should think...

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Fri, 08 May 2009 16:31:19 Z

Hi Jeff,

Sounds like an unexpected issue.

Please post your issue here . Microsoft Dev Teams would go through this thread and check on your issue.

Thanks.

Jabez Gan [MVP] - http://www.msblog.org Contributing Author for: (Sybex) MCTS: Windows Server 2008 Applications Infrastructure Configuration Study Guide: Exam 70-643

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Sat, 09 May 2009 03:46:13 Z

Problem report: Samsung NP-Q310-AS02 Notebook Hibernate not working

Fresh install Win7 RC1, when try to Hibernate the system will restart
and also hte sleep button is dimmed

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Sat, 09 May 2009 11:08:52 Z

Previously, I had the standard Vista version of the MS Intellipoint software loaded on build 7000 and the buttons worked properly. Since installing the RC, however, I found there was a beta version of the Intellipoint driver - so I installed that instead.

It all pretty much works fine - except for the magnifyer button on my Comfort Optical Mouse 3000. The magnification "lens" only pops up when I'm on the desktop. If I've got an application open - like IE, or Word, or a photo editor - the button is completely unresponsive. I have to minimize the app, click on the button, get the lens up, and then alt-tab back to the app I need to magnify. I likewise have to do the same thing to shut the lens off.

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Sat, 09 May 2009 12:23:31 Z

I changed the "small thumb" button to "Forward (browser)" in the mouse settings (on my Intellimouse Explorer). I also installed 6.3 of the mouse software, however.

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=a1525476-a28b-40e4-88c9-97db00d6a75a&DisplayLang=en

All seems to be working fine.

Doc

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Sat, 09 May 2009 13:00:27 Z

Doc -

Just for grins and giggles, I set my thumb button up to Back, and that, strangely, works fine in IE 8 and Windows Explorer. But setting it back to Magnify - and it does nothing unless I'm on the desktop proper. Me thinks this be a bug as it worked fine in the previous incarnation.

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Sat, 09 May 2009 16:11:34 Z

This is maybe a bug, maybe not, but I think that this behavior should not happen at all, and in some ways gives you another perspective of how clipboard works.

Explanation

yesterday i was woking with some servers and copy a command to paste in a brand new txt file.
the command was \\192.168.1.1\c$
i selected the command and pressed ctrl-C
i right click desktop and created a new text file, but by error i pressed ctrl-V in the name of the txt file
Windows pasted 192.168.1.1c$ and told me that some characters will not do in a filename.
i pressed esc to get the original filename
opened the file name and pasted the clipboard content.
Now, what i pasted was 192.168.1.1c, so MY clipboard content was modified by windows.
I mean instead of modyfing the file name to remove the characters, windows modified my clipboard.

More info here http://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=769870

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Mon, 11 May 2009 23:09:40 Z

Not sure if this is where to comment about this or not. Anyway, not sure if anyone else has had this problem. Sometimes (not everytime) when you loose a game, or click on Game and hit new game, if you choose "restart this game" it does not restart that one, but a random one as if you selected "new Game". It is not a big problem but I like trying to complete each game if it is at all possible wether it takes 1 time or 5.

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Tue, 12 May 2009 16:08:27 Z

Build 7100 (RC) greatly improved touch screen support for the Q1. I can now reach the edges of the screen, which was not possible in older versions of Windows 7. So in landscape mode it is great.

However, when I rotate the screen to portrait mode, I cannot calibrate the screen properly. I can't reach the edges and no matter how many times I recalibrate, the pen ends up in the wrong place by a few millimeters.

Not sure why that might be the case, but I thought I might report it.

All works perfectly well in Windows XP, except that screen rotation is not supported in XP. Well, I can rotate the screen, but not the touch sensor matrix (which put me in quite a jam trying to switch it back...)

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Wed, 13 May 2009 13:40:13 Z

Hi, love the new W7, works perfectly on my 3 year old acer laptop running 1 gigabyte RAM.

One observation I have is that when you put the taskbar topside of the screen it layers over programs that are open in a full screen window.

Real happy with the rest of it all!

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Fri, 15 May 2009 11:31:35 Z

I have also experienced this same issue. I actually ran the install 3 times before I realised it had swapped to my second monitor. The problem that I now have is that my primary monitor shows up as 2 and my secondary screen on hdmi shows as 1. I am using a radeon 4850 with my main monitor on dvi and second via hdmi adapter. If I unplug the dvi cable I can get my primary monitor to show correctly but as soon as i plug it back in it swaps back. No amount of fiddling with widows or ati settings has resolved this so far.

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Fri, 15 May 2009 11:43:55 Z

Add one more to this issue. I am having the same trouble. Main picture is appearing on monitor 2. very frustrating

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Fri, 15 May 2009 12:19:55 Z

I'm getting used to Win7 and I really like it, but the worst thing about it is the start menu. I don't really want the classic menu, as I use keyboard commands for darn near everything, but you would think that the start menu would be more customizable in the 21st century and some 10yrs or so later. The start menu in Win7 is the absolute worst start menu of any OS period. There should at least be a way to change it to show programs by default or at least change the back ground color from that god awful blank white eyesore that is the default. This shows a very serious lack of innovation and creativity by Microsoft.

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Fri, 15 May 2009 12:27:01 Z

I installed Windows 7 Ultimate on my Lenovo S10 Netbook and have to say it's better than any other version of Windows I've run thus far. I was seriously considering switching to a Macbook but Windows 7 and the improvements have changes my mind. I want to not that the S10 comes with Windows XP but I had already upgraded it to Vista (after a 2GB memory upgrade). While Vista ran it did so very slow and not al the devices where detected. Windows 7 though installed without any issues, detected the previously undetected devices and just rocked!

Kuddos to Microsoft...keep up the good work!

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Fri, 15 May 2009 13:18:35 Z

Rexec command was removed from all but two versions of Vista (Ultimate & enterprise), yet any Win XP had it built in. Even getting rexec to work on Vista Ultimate was a chore (needed to activate Subsystem for Unix-based applications (SUA) and download the component).
This is one reason I need WinXP.
How will rexec work in Win7?

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Fri, 15 May 2009 20:20:28 Z

WideScreen Monitors are Native to Windows 7 RC 7100. If one of your Monitors a Standard LCD and the other is a WideScreen then that is where the final stages of the installation will wind up.

I am having the same trouble. Main picture is appearing on monitor 2. very frustrating

Right click on the Deskstop. Click on Screen Resolution. You can configure which Monitor or Monitors you would like to display.

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Fri, 15 May 2009 20:30:19 Z

WideScreen Monitors are Native to Windows 7 RC 7100. If one of your Monitors a Standard LCD and the other is a WideScreen then that is where the final stages of the installation will wind up.

I am having the same trouble. Main picture is appearing on monitor 2. very frustrating

Right click on the Deskstop. Click on Screen Resolution. You can configure which Monitor or Monitors you would like to display.

You miss the point. I am well aware there are any number of workarounds after installation. The problem is, if you happen to have your second monitor turned off while you install, at some point you'll never know that your installation is now proceeding on the 'other' monitor. You think instead that the install has failed.

The issue is that if, for example, I have dual monitors configured on a running Vista system and then install W7, during the installation the setup confuses the two monitors and makes the "primary" monitor (the BIOS boot monitor, and the #1 monitor in Vista/XP) number 2. This is just wrong, is a bug, and should be fixed. A Vista install doesn't get confused like this; W7 shouldn't either.

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Sat, 16 May 2009 07:11:53 Z

a lot of xp/2003 summary fields are missing and not available even for viewing in windows 7. This can be show stopper if not massive migration time consumption for some business.

I do recomend bring it back for vhd, development file types, exe, dll, txt,rtf,... expecially for business edition. As for ultimate, let users/admin make a choice. Just Details available for office documents is not enough

I am testing w7 rc as a vpc 2007 guest vm . the lack of support for "details" is apprent for files even residing wihtin the vhd, and those on shares by xp/w2003

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Sat, 16 May 2009 09:36:49 Z

I pulled my drive, installed a new one, and installed the 32bit RC.
It went smooth and quickly! Luckily 7 recognized and readied my LAN and I went to the update page first and started browsing while they downloaded.
The first reboots were smooth and fairly quick.
So far so good, and now I got down to what I dreaded - installing mobo, video card and sound card drivers.
ATI Redeon has 7 drivers up so I tried the earlier ones, as the 9.4 gave some problems on Vista and XP before. Went great, things looked better.
Mobo is Vista cert. with no 7 drivers nor none being proposed. The Vista drivers weren't needed as 7 has them already, obviously, and performance is even better than Vista's score already.
Not a single problem until the sound card, an HTOmega Striker 7.1. No 7 drivers until next month, so I decided to risk the Vista drivers. No go. Tried the XP. No joy.
So, enabled the mobo onboard and plugged in the digital optical. JOY! Logitech z5500 sounds great.
Now on to the real problems. Several of my favorite programs didn't install on XP64 and others didn't run right in Vista32 and quite a few had major problems under Vista 64.
Everything installed and ran great! Everything but FrontPage 2000. lol. Office programs, games, file apps, media apps, even HD-DVD and BluRay playback! Great!
So, after a day of seeing things run great, I downloaded the 64bit version and got busy installing it.
Everything went fine. Even the programs that wouldn't install or run on XP 64 or Vista 64 are installed and running great!
Including WinDVD9, Cowon Media, Expression Web and even SimCity4 which I won't give up!
So far 7 is impressive. Not just the compatibility, but the performance. All the newer games play the same or some slightyly better FPS. The interface is pretty and neat. The Aero is a nice piece of eye-candy. Better control over widgets compared to Vista. Programs seem to snap open, but that is probably the 64bit, eh?
The design of the interface is improved, even though the Start Menu would be nice if you could 'revert' it to XP and earlier styles as outlined by so many others here.
So far not a single BSOD, and I've tried doing things that typically caused them in XP and Vista by running a few apps together that never got along before. They still fight over screen time and control, but they don't bring the OS to a grinding blue halt now! GJ!
So, the first week, I'm falling for 7. I was a late taker to Vista, liking my XP and not liking Vista much, on top of having a few compatibility issues.
Not with 7.
So far so good!

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Sat, 16 May 2009 18:16:45 Z

I can not switch which monitor is the primary or main monitor. My main display is identified is 2. That is the opposite of the correct configuration. I could just trade the cables, but then only Windows 7 RC would be correct.

Both of my monitors are wide screen, a HB 191 and a Sony HDTV. The Sony HDTV is identified as 1, I want the HB191 to be 1.

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Sun, 17 May 2009 16:36:54 Z

Hi,

I'm sure a lot of users tinker with turning off services when setting up windows to either lock down or performance tune their box. But unless you deligently note down what the default turned on services are, ( and whether they are automatic or manual ) there is no way to revert back to out of box settings when things don't work. I am requesting a a Restore Defaults button that will revert all services settings to their out of box settings.

Thanks

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Sun, 17 May 2009 21:02:25 Z

Happy Days! - I need to share my success story with installing W7 RC1. It sure didn't go according to Microsoft's directions. To get around the driver problems I did the following:

Per a tip from the Microsoft TechNet Forum, I downloaded & burned several of the most recent Silicon Graphics drivers to a CD (memory sticks evidently don't always work).

I reran the installation up to where it requested the driver for my SATA controller. I read this into the Install program from the CD drive & Voila! It found a driver it liked.

I replaced the Install disc & was - once again - unable to select my desired partition P & still got the same error message.

Here is the interesting part of this saga - I backed up in menu pages until I got to the Accept License menu. I checked the agreement as accepted - again - & paged thru to the Custom Install menu where I was to select the partition.

NOW I could select the partition, with no resultant error, & I was able to click on the NEXT button.

The rest of the installation went forward without a hitch. From a cold boot I am given the choice to boot into W7, or to select an earlier version of Windows - XP in my case.

W7 shows as installed on my P drive & I can also see & have access to all my other drives & partitions.

I have to keep reminding myself that this is still an unfinished version to install & bugs WILL be prevelant. I do like what I see so far.

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Sun, 24 May 2009 17:28:25 Z

I'm not sure how it is possible to provide feedback about Windows 7 without mentioning specific issues encountered, or specific enhancements that are particularly useful. To me, that sounds like an oxymoron. Anyhow, here's my feedback.

1) It seems much more stable than my short-lived use of Vista.

2) I love the new task bar icons and the previews of minimized windows. I used to use ObjectDock Plus from StarDock, and am glad that this type of functionality is finally available in Windows. What would be useful is the ability to separate particular windows instead of having them all grouped together. This is particularly an issue for IE, as it creates a separate view for each tab, instead of each IE window. When a user has two IE windows open, each with five tabs, it should be configurable whether there are two IE entries in the taskbar rather than ten.

3) The Alt-Tab task switching is great, but can be improved. The highlight around the task / window is not in enough contrast to immediately see which one is selected. A higher-contrast default color scheme for task switching would be useful.

4) The action configured for what happens when my latop lid is closed sometimes looses its setting. I have had to go back and reconfigure it to enter standby mode at least two or three times.

5) Backup simply does not work. This is of particular concern due to the fact that it is a RC release. I was able to create a recovery DVD, but backup itself does not work and reports Error Code 0x81000031. When I try and create a system image, it gives error 0x8007007A, and says "The data area passed to a system call is too small."

6) After several reboots the system automatically ran a chkdsk on the system drive (C:). It appeared to shut down correctly, so I'm not sure why it had to run the chkdsk.

Thanks,

Fred

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Sun, 24 May 2009 17:31:22 Z

Oh, and lastly, I had Safari pinned to the taskbar. When it did an upgrade the pinned item shows a generic icon, but I can't remove the pinned item. When I click on it it says "This action is only valid for products that are currently installed." There appears no way to remove the item.

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Sun, 24 May 2009 21:58:40 Z

Fred,

The issue you describe above with IE Taskbar grouping is actually a feature available only to certain Microsoft programs which are well-integrated into Windows 7. Mozilla Firefox and other browsers do not do this. I'd recommend that you repost this to the comments thread , so that the feature can be expanded for the final release.

Can you elaborate on what sort of backup you were attempting?

-Alex

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Wed, 27 May 2009 17:30:07 Z

I like the idea of UAC so I do not want to turn it off globally, but why can't there be a program run option to turn off UAC challenges. It is a bit annoying to have to answer these challenges for programs that I run everyday or several times a day. The UAC should challenge you when attempt to change the run option, but once set the challenges should stop. This was my main complaint about Vista and I thought in Win7 it was going to be addressed, but it is still here with us.

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Wed, 27 May 2009 18:21:28 Z

i agree, we need a way to turn it off for programmes we sue, click a "accept always from this programme" or somthing like that :)

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Wed, 27 May 2009 19:40:33 Z

This issue was already been questioned (I am one that questioned it a few times already). But microsoft just don´t want to listen.

Not having a way to mark a program as "trusted" is a huge security issue. If the user get used to "always answer yes to this box, it will appear every time, no matter what", then, this users is aquiring a bad habit. What will stop this users of clicking yes to a malware? For this user, UAC is just a annoying box that needs the yes every time. It needs to change.
The user must understand that if UAC is triggered, then, something IMPORTANT is going to happen. But, if UAC keeps poping everywhere, everytime, it will just be "another yes box".

In fact, the way UAC is today, is much better than it was in vista. But it still far far away from beeing really efficient.

If you (or microsoft) wants to read, this question was already the one that motivated these:

http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/w7itprosecurity/thread/210849f7-9dd2-4736-b885-31d820e98d2a

http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/w7itprosecurity/thread/e128fda6-8ea4-4796-9c72-ffbca1054cea

http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/w7itprosecurity/thread/1d58801d-dc99-4337-a07e-41c1ed3957e8

And, look in this one, in particular:

http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/w7itprosecurity/thread/24f1e611-e4f5-4030-8e4c-c3c30c99d76d/

This user will just end up disabling the UAC just because it´s not allowing it to automaticaly run Everest. I Run everest at my computer startup, and I suffered the same. It took me lots of time to find a way to circunvent it (using a Admin elevated task to create a task that runs everest every logon). But, the average user will never do it. Will never find it. The average user will just turn UAC off. And it´s bad.

Worse it, a malware can just create a elavated task like I did to run everest, and the user will never know it. Very sad.

In fact, for me, UAC is just what the name says: User Annoyance Center. It works very well to annoy the user. And I am still to know a average computer user that likes to be annoyed. They WILL turn UAC off. Just like they did in vista. So, UAC is, today, a error by design.

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Thu, 28 May 2009 01:27:11 Z

Fred,

Do you have any dynamic disks that are involved in the backup?

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Fri, 29 May 2009 06:23:39 Z

I think such an option for automatic program trusts breaks the UAC security. Because what if an virus or something like that corrupted your program or contains a leak. That means that if you elevate such program every time you have a possible security leak. Better is that software like Everest is going to change in the way they are using their drivers to get system information. Because they are loading the drivers at runtime you are always asked for elevation. So the problem is in this case by Everest which doesn't correctly handles UAC and they should update their software! Another option is to find a program which does the same but handles it correctly (don't load drivers at runtime, but preinstall them).

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Fri, 29 May 2009 17:09:21 Z

Kasmar,
Don't shoot the bodyguard for checking with you.
I was like you when I first got Vista: "Oh my God!, everythings stops and I have to click on this stupid thing ! HOW DARE THEY STOP ME !"
The UAC, Kasmar, is NOT CHALLENGING YOU, it is making sure that YOU are the one running things.
I eventually understood this and I very soon saw that Vista was a lot better than XP in many many ways.
Give it a try and when the UAC shows up just say "Thanks Bart" and go on.
That's the small price to pay for security.

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Fri, 29 May 2009 17:48:05 Z

Perfect, HumkyDork.

It is exactly how a software for security should behave. Maybe I should stoping using my custom rules in my firewall too.. It´s faaar more secure to just answer the exactly same thing every time a program needs to connectto a network.

Ok, if windows can´t safely store (password? bitlocker? ANYthing) a list of programs that the user allows to run, then, this is system is real safe, hum? I can´t understand all this paranoic behavior "Let UAC, I need to click the stupid YES button 50 times a day to feel safe". It´s a idiotic behaviour. It´s exactly like addmit: "hey, our system is so insecure that ANY firewall or antivirus in the WORLD performs better than us to do a task. Don´t trust us, so, keep answering yes, and don´t ask again, we are not going to change it".

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Fri, 29 May 2009 19:26:19 Z

Well, that my be all well and good Hunky.... but if you have a program that you want to run at startup and you want that program to run as administrator, the UAC challenge causes windows to block it.. I had a USB drive that was connected to my router and it required a manager program to allow Vista to see it and of course, that program needed to run at startup as administrator. Well, due to the UAC challenge the program would not run at startup. I had to tell Vista to unblock it and let it run, but by the time I was able to do that the drive had already not been recognized. It was a real headache. I eventually ended up having to take the drive off the router. It would not have been a problem if I could have told the UAC that this program was okay to run.

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Sat, 30 May 2009 03:01:11 Z

I think the entire mentality behind the UAC is completely and totally flawed. The idea that drives it's existence is definitely a step in the right direction towards a more secure OS, but it seems pretty apparent to me that requiring the user to regulate the security at such a constant and intrusive manner is what really fuels the negative perceptions regarding not just Windows' vulnerability to security risks, but also its overall quality and ease of use as an operating system. It seems to me that most people forget that a large majority of Windows users are not technically savy and don't understand what UAC is or its purpose as a security mechanism.

Sure most people understand computers can get viruses, but ask Joe Blow using Windows if he understands why all of those boxes keep popping up asking if he's sure he wants to run program X every day he needs to use it. Most people just chalk it up to another "new thing" that Vista (and now Windows 7) does, without any real understanding that it's there to increase security (that may be a surprise to alot of people but keep in mind you're surfing microsoft technet forums - I'm talking about the demographic of Windows users who barely understand how to work their word processor and browser... which constitues a LARGE number of Windows users). And because of that lack of understanding, Joe gets used to seeing that box come up asking his permission to do whatever, and Joe gets used to clicking 'Yes', so when the time comes when some trojan initiates something that asks Joe his permission to run, Joe (being the non-technical user he is) is greeted by the usual UAC pop-up that he really doesn't understand what it is but always answers 'Yes' to in order to make it go away, so he unwittingly does what he always does and answers 'Yes'. Believe me, this has happened before and will continue to happen as long as there are Windows novices using Windows (so forever, or until Windows dies).

The bottom line is, the security monitoring has to be more behind the scenes. I understand that may be a near-impossible request to have the same kind of protection that we get now through UAC with a more low-key security monitoring system running in the background, but it really is the only way Microsoft can acheive the level of user satisfaction that it enjoyed during the XP era.

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Tue, 02 Jun 2009 16:56:37 Z

Hi,

There is a serious issue with Windows 7 and the fact that it WON'T use mandatory roaming profiles at all. We will NOT be able to implement Windows 7 in my domain if this issue isn't resolved. I am not sure how to contact Microsoft with regards to this bug.

I have put it in the Windows 7 Miscellaneous forum and also in the huge 3 part thread. However, no one from Microsoft actually seems to be reading those posts.

Users assigned a usersprofile.v2 profile get a TEMP profile OR the entire desktop is access is denied.

What I have tried so far to do is:

1> Followed the directions for Vista and created a regular user with no profile path.
2> Logged onto the workstation and configured the profile.
3> Logged off and on again as an Administrator
4> Tried to COPY profile but COPY is greyed out (BIG BUG) - Delete isn't greyed out though so profile isn't loaded.

Therefore I copied the profile manually to \\server\Profiles$\User.v2

I took control and set permissions on all the folders.
I deleted the LOCAL profile folders

I opened the NTUser.dat and reset the registry permissions to Everyone=Full Control from userprofile=Full Control.

In AD I set a user with the profile \\server\profiles$\User

It loaded ONCE but when trying to open Libraries, My Documents or My Computer from the Desktop you get "Access is Denied". You can access from within software though.

Logged off and logged back on again.

Now it is "preparing desktop" for that user regardless and loading a TEMP profile. It WON'T load the mandatory profile.

This is a Make or Break issue for Cross Platform domains.

lforbes

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Wed, 03 Jun 2009 10:15:53 Z

I actually really like Windows Media Player 12, and watching video in the taskbar pop-up preview is a great feature.

Some of the people who miss WMP 11's toolbar would not have as much of an issue if the pop-up preview simply happened faster. So, suggestion 1:

- Provide obvious option to make all taskbar pop-ups instantaneous

I had to find a registry workaround, but it's made my life in Windows 7 much easier.

http://www.mydigitallife.info/2009/02/09/how-to-speed-up-taskbar-thumbnails-preview-in-windows-7/

Suggestion 2:

- Give us an option to make the WMP pop-up preview persistent (meaning a video will continue playing in the mini taskbar window while working on other tasks).

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Wed, 03 Jun 2009 12:12:37 Z

<Continuation of long thread Have Comments about Windows 7 RC? (Part 3)>

To all forum users:

Please use this thread to note any comments that you have about Windows 7 Release Candidate (RC). Do not use this thread for any specific question or issue that you are having - just for comments or feedback. For questions/issues that require an answer, create a new thread.

Thanks

-Tony Mann

Windows Client IT Pro Audience Manager for Web Forums, Windows Client Forum Owner

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Wed, 03 Jun 2009 13:23:06 Z

Anthony

It’s an absolutely brilliant product but a number of my requests, made over several years, have still been ignored. This seems to be my last chance until Window 8 is in conception.

1. A new feature that lists all Control Panel installation defaults, with a Reset ‘button‘.
2. Allow colours to be added to file names, e.g. right-click menu > Color > and choose Grey, Mauve or Yellow (I know Black, Blue, Green and Red are currently reserved). This feature would allow an extra Sort or Group By index.
3. Snipping Tool feature to allow text to be typed immediately, rather than having to load a program (say, Paint) to edit the picture.

Thank you.

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Wed, 03 Jun 2009 21:07:56 Z

I have a comment about Windows media player 12. well, its more of a bug report. both Windows media player 12 and Windows 7 are not reading the metadata from my music files properly for some reason. I believe this issue was in Windows 7 beta 1 and ot it is appearing in the RC. What the heck? the interesting thing about this issue is that the issue only appeared a few days ago and that only 3rd party applications can read the metadata from my music files. At least the operating system is not messing up my files from not being able to read the metadata from them. this is a seriuos issue and needs to be fixed.

I even started using iTunes as a music player because it was ale to read the metadata from my music files properly and yet i do not like iTunes at all.... I miss Windows media player 11.

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Thu, 04 Jun 2009 01:34:44 Z

Hi,

As long as I can't report anymore found bugs and I don't know how to alert the dev team, I'll try with this forum :

The option about the time before the screen shut down, in the power management window, is buged. It restore itself to default value randomly.

Ex : I select "Never" at "Shut down the screen after :"

Then I launch a full screen divx and after one hour or so, the screen shuts down and I have to move my mouse to wake it up.

When I check again the option, it restored to "twenty minuts" and I have to change it again and again.

Btw, if I check my preferences like 15 minuts after selected my choice, it's still my choice selected. So it's not a bug with the "Apply" button.

It's not a big deal but a bit annoying while watching movies.

Regards.

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Thu, 04 Jun 2009 02:01:24 Z

JiDW -

This IS actually the right place to be posting issues with Windows 7.

Your issue with power managment is known and the programmers should be working on a fix - it should be ready by release time. In the mean time, the best solution is to disable sleep/hibernation entirely for the time being.

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Thu, 04 Jun 2009 02:06:09 Z

Wolfie - do you know if there is any known issue with turning off displays? The display on my laptop does not turn off every every 15 minutes, as I have set it to. Sometimes it will shut off, other times it simply remains dimmed without going off. Anyone else experience this?

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Thu, 04 Jun 2009 02:12:46 Z

Dan -

Not sure if there's an issue with turning stuff off - but there was a known issue with turning monitors back ON when you resume from sleep.

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Thu, 04 Jun 2009 02:53:49 Z

I recently had the privilege (?) of cutting files from one directory (CTRL-X) and pasting them into a subordinate directory (CTRL-V) This directory had over 600 files in it. I noticed when selecting more than 75-100 files (SHIFT-PgDn) at once, only the first 52-68 would copy even though all 75-100 files were selected according to the GUI. The Drag and Drop into the subordinate folder using the mouse seemed to work more reliably.

This is on a Dell Studio 1737 if that's pertinent.

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Thu, 04 Jun 2009 10:26:44 Z

Windows 7 rc works perfectly for me.

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Thu, 04 Jun 2009 17:08:42 Z

Totally agree, this certainly isn't enterprise ready without LEAP support.

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Thu, 04 Jun 2009 20:34:22 Z

Windows 7 rc works perfectly for me.

good for you. well, at least i'm only having this one issue that bothers me with windows media player 12, like i said before... i just with i could go back to version 11 at times and not have version 12 installed on the system. i also wish that i did not have to use the new libraries system that is in Windows 7. I like how the folders system worked in Windows XP and i guess it was ok for how it was in vista. i just hate how the folder libraried for Windows media player and windows explorer are merged. in a way, i just wish you could turn that damned feature off. :( the rest is going great, but i would like some improvements.

I read news of a 2nd RC coming out on the 12th, does anyone know if the is true? because if that is, i think i will be upgrading to it. It says its for MSDN/Technet sunscribers only, but yet i do not think microsoft is actually going to reease anoth RC. at least i read good things about it...lol

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Thu, 04 Jun 2009 21:25:09 Z

http://www.windows7taskforce.com/view/1811

[suggestion #1] keep Menu Selected Item color layout consistency for Windows 7

Problem:
1)
to improve Appliaction Menu Selected Item color. (discriminated Appliaction Menu color very difficult, looked vague.)
There is no consistency between the Start Menu and the Appliaction Menu.
To keep Start Menu and Appliaction Menu Selected Item color style consistency, like Windows XP.

2)
Windiows Explorer Menu Selected Item has 2 color layout styles in Windows7.
Please keep Selected Item color layout consistency for Menu.
Why the 'Include in libary' used another color layout?

Solution:
keep Menu Selected Item color layout consistency for Windows 7

view screenshot:
http://www.windows7taskforce.com/thumb/keep_Menu_color_layout_consistency.png/x/560

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Thu, 04 Jun 2009 21:26:25 Z

http://www.windows7taskforce.com/view/1648

[suggestion #2] keep Details Columns style consistency for Windows 7

Problem:
Details Columns has 2 styles in Windows7.
Please keep style consistency for Details Columns.

Solution:
keep Details Columns style consistency

view screenshot:
http://www.windows7taskforce.com/thumb/Details_style.png/x/560

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Fri, 05 Jun 2009 03:01:04 Z

prefetchers are not turning off and maybe defrag is not auto disabling on SSD when one is installed and the windows performance index has been performed, its more that the defrag on the c: drive has not been disabled as i my fragmentation is now at 1% (was 4% before so the auto defrag has been performed )

system is in AHCI mode i have an SSD (corsair S128 gets 7.1 on the index) and an HDD (WD black 1TB)

---------- other note

your web site must not be complaying with the HTML spec as my opera will not let me use the submit button i had to use IE

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Fri, 05 Jun 2009 06:57:15 Z

At this stage I'm surprised to find this bug still here from the beta release. I guess no-one reported it? Using build 7100 on an HP Pavillion DV2500, 2GB RAM, Core 2 Duo processor.

To reproduce it, run the Easy Transfer wizard, click "Next", "External Hard drive", "this is my old computer". When all the information has been gathered click "customize" by the username. Note that the 3 items Music Pictures and Video all return the same file sizes regardless of actual content. Uncheck any one of the three boxes marked Music, Pictures or Video. Note that the while nothing else gets unchecked all of those three items plus Documents plus Other Items all get the file size reduced to zero. They also don't get included in the mig file. Internet Explorer settings also get dropped.

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Fri, 05 Jun 2009 07:24:59 Z

Hi,

I cannot reproduce the issue on my side. Given the situation, could you please confirm the followings:

1. Which file type are you trying to move?
2. Where you move the files to ? folder in another drive or in same drive?
3. Does the issue occur in Safe Mode?

Thanks.

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Fri, 05 Jun 2009 07:59:54 Z

Comments about Windows 7..... Well, I gave it a try.

The overall look and performance is looking very good. But that's for me not the main reason for an operating system.
I don't see much difference with Windows Vista. It's not a major upgrade.
Handling different tasks together goes well.

But in my view many settings we like to play around with nowadays are too hidden. And I would like that setup to have more personalization options so I can configure the way my desktop, start menu, etc look like the first time I log in.

I cannot judge if this is really a secure OS. What's the purpose of marking a wireless network as Home, Work or Public? That doesn't scare the serious attacker.

Device recognition is good. Drivers are fully in the OS and are constantly updated by Windows Update. Hope that in the future people don't have to worry about this and fuzz around in Device manager. Makes the job of the DST a lot easier.

Conclusion: Nice OS, but no reason to upgrade for me.

---Just a HP Mini Netbook running Windows Server 2008 now ---

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Fri, 05 Jun 2009 12:58:21 Z

http://www.windows7taskforce.com/view/1622

[suggestion #3] keep UI theme style consistency for Windows 7

Problem:
keep UI theme style consistency for Menu bar & Tool bar.
like Windows XP theme style's consistency.

Solution:
keep UI theme style consistency for Windows 7.

view snapshot:
http://www.windows7taskforce.com/thumb/UI_Style_Consistency.png/x/700

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Fri, 05 Jun 2009 14:23:51 Z

When Windows 7 is installed, currently it defaults to no screensaver , which is bad in terms of power saving and overall green-ness. I suggest that after install at least the Windows Logo or smth is set as the wallpaper.

Regards,
Kristaps.

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Fri, 05 Jun 2009 14:25:34 Z

As you all probably know, Win+1/2/3/.. activates those windows in taskbar.
But there is one thing that bugs me about this -- only the upper-row 1/2/3/.. keys work with this. Why not numpad keys?

Regards,
Kristaps.

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Fri, 05 Jun 2009 14:28:26 Z

It would be really nice if Virtual Windows XP 's windows could take advantage of Win7's Aero Snap . I know that Aero Peek is not possible [due to lack of DWM], but Snap is just window resizing+placement, so it shouldn't be difficult to implement.

Regards,
Kristaps.

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Fri, 05 Jun 2009 14:55:24 Z

Maximized windows respond too quickly to titlebar drag in vertical direction - it's enough to move a single pixel, and they snap off, which for me often causes the windows to flicker (because they unsnap and then immediately snap back) when I try clicking their titlebar (to bring them to front) while still stopping my mouse.

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Fri, 05 Jun 2009 15:49:56 Z

I just installed Virtual PC and XP mode as I had an application I just couldn't get to work properly in Windows 7 RC x64 (not sure if it's Win7 or x64 that's messing it up). Anyway, I was relatively impressed with the XP mode experience but there is a major issue: NO DUAL MONITOR SUPPORT. This is very annoying. Even when running an application in seamless mode, while I could resize the application's window any which way within my primary monitor, I could neither size it larger than the primary monitor so that it would stretch across the 2 monitors, nor could I even move the window to the secondary monitor, despite the secondary monitor having the same resolution as the primary.

I've noticed similar issues with Windows Live Mesh windows so suspect that there's some common RDP code being used which is not Dual Monitor friendly, although at least with the live mesh windows, while they can't be stretch across both monitor, they can be moved. Not so with XP mode. I realize this is a beta, so I hope this gets fixed for the release.

In fact, I find in general Microsoft products have not been very multi-monitor friendly. Even Windows 7 STILL lacks the ability to assign different background to each monitor, assign different background scaling options to each monitor, or allow stretching of a single background across multiple monitors. The lack of independent scaling control, for instance, means if you plug into a second monitor with a different resolution (eg: HDTV, projector) the background will often not scale properly. I think it's time these basic features were added to the OS.

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Fri, 05 Jun 2009 17:38:46 Z

The default action for pen flick left is Forward ; the default action for pen flick right is Back . Wtf?

The arrow on Back button looks like "<- " -- it points left . So why left flick is Forward , and vice versa?? It should be the other way around! No, seriously, wtf?

Regards,
Kristaps.

P.S.: Epic shoop is epic.

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Fri, 05 Jun 2009 17:50:51 Z

I have not read all this, but I had a comment after a short use (few days) of Windows 7. I like the new taskbar and it's display of both active tasks as well as application launch buttons. I also like the thumbnail view of all open windows for a given application when hovering on the icon in the task bar. I do miss the abilitity to see ALL open applications in the 'fanned deck' view available in Vista when the "switch between windows" option is chosen. This should be added back in (if it isn't there already and I just haven't found it.)

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Fri, 05 Jun 2009 18:27:07 Z

Alright these things have probabaly already been mentioned but, there needs to be a classic view for the control panel, I like being able to see every program in the control panel at once instead of dividing it up into sections. There also needs to be a button in the quick launch area to take you back to the desktop, not having that can be really annoying

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Fri, 05 Jun 2009 18:37:33 Z

There also needs to be a button in the quick launch area to take you back to the desktop, not having that can be really annoying

@LeftArrow: →

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Fri, 05 Jun 2009 19:26:17 Z

The context menus of the items in Windows Explorer's navigation pane is sometimes inconsistent. For example, the "Open in New Window" item isn't always in the same spot. It's usually the 4th item, right above the first menu separator. But if you pin your Music folder to the Favorites section of the navigation pane, it's inexplicably between two separators of its own.

In my opinion, "Open in New Window" should be at the very top of the context menu as well, since it's probably the most-often-used menu item.

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Fri, 05 Jun 2009 19:55:11 Z

there's a "show desktop" button on the far right of the taskbar.
there's a "view" (or smth like that) dropdown in CP somewhere below search bar. Use that for the non-retarded view ^^

Regards,
Kristaps.

P.S.: Epic shoop is epic.

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Fri, 05 Jun 2009 21:05:21 Z

WMP 12 Bug : when deleting a mp3 from library window (folder view selected), sometimes it gets confused about the next 2-3 mp3s: when you try playing them, two of them will play the same one of them. After closing and restarting wmp12, it plays each of them correctly. WMP 11 under vista had the same problem, altough seemed to occur even often.

PS repeat a suggestion for WMP - posibility of use of mwheel for skiping fwd/back a number of seconds, maybe through a (3rd party?) plugin at least to be possible.

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Fri, 05 Jun 2009 22:24:16 Z

Really has been a help to me. I had an old HP sitting collecting dust. Could not get it running no matter what.
Installed the beta, and 90% of the problems solved themselves. When I installed the RC Wow!!!.

Not really a technical sort. Like a lot of users, not interested in how it works, just that it does.
No disappointments here. Been running for a week, and NO crashes, no funny slowdowns.
3rd party applications run smoothly.

Thanks for the opportunity to revive an old friend. Too bad he's only got a year to live. Goes on life support in March /10,
but will seek professional help way before then.

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Fri, 05 Jun 2009 22:52:57 Z

I installed Win 7 64-bit RC a couple of months ago on a Intal quad core with an Asus motherboard (P5B-Plus) on a dual boot system and have just uninstalled it. In enjoyed the experience for when it worked well, it worked really well.
The reason I have given up:
1) I could not solve an issue with Word 2007 - each time I opened a document it told me that I had an issue with macros, told me what to do (which never worked) and I had to go through this twice before I could actually view the document. No solutions I found on the web worked. I finally decided to remove and reinstall Office but was thwarted by the next problem (I could not use the DVD drives).
2) After installing silverlight from Windows Update both my DVD drives no longer showed. Removing the lower filters (there were no upper filters) in the registry did not solve this and I could find no way to get my DVD drives back. In fact the IDE channels no longer appeared in the Device Manager list, though my SATA channels and disk drives were all still fine. At that point I had no option but remove Win 7 RC (64 bit).

I still have the 32 bit version working on my laptop and the only issue I have found there is very slow moving files - this has been helped by installing Terracopy. Word is fine in this version and I find it far better to use than Vista home premium. With Vista I have to turn aero off since it randomly crashes my laptop (I use dual monitor) but I have had no such issue with WIn 7 RC (32 bit). It has now become the only system I use on my laptop.

Trevor Geddes

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Fri, 05 Jun 2009 23:18:12 Z

So far I am loving Windows 7 RC 64 bit. I do mainly audio work and the performance in Windows 7 for streaming from disc with software samplers is more than doubly improved over XP 32.

I love the new taskbar -alot- and the show desktop icon. W7 is Not as streamlined and workflow condusive as Mac OS but not far off.

Excellent work. Asside from the ever present appauling lack of taste for GUI that windows is famous for I love this windows.

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Fri, 05 Jun 2009 23:23:39 Z

Alright these things have probabaly already been mentioned but, there needs to be a classic view for the control panel, I like being able to see every program in the control panel at once instead of dividing it up into sections. There also needs to be a button in the quick launch area to take you back to the desktop, not having that can be really annoying

LeftArrow -

Uh.. They got one it's called "All Control Panel Items". And in Windows 7 - it's a fairly LONG list.

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Sat, 06 Jun 2009 00:35:26 Z

Alright these things have probabaly already been mentioned but, there needs to be a classic view for the control panel, I like being able to see every program in the control panel at once instead of dividing it up into sections. There also needs to be a button in the quick launch area to take you back to the desktop, not having that can be really annoying

The Show Desktop is an unmarked, weirdly shaded rectangle at the far RIGHT of the taskbar clock. No one would actually find it unless by accident of if you were told. Actually it is pretty annoying in that location as I have spent years with my Show Desktop on the Left near the start menu because it 'used' to be moveable.

I have yet to see if I can "pin" the XP shortcut to the Taskbar near the start menu. I did that with a lock computer and logoff command.

With the Control Panel go in and customize the start menu and choose "display as menu". Personally I never actually open the control panel anymore I just show the list in the start menu.

lforbes

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Sat, 06 Jun 2009 01:29:23 Z

[suggestion #5] update all previous-version ICONs to win7style

Problem:
Many ICONs is previous-version (vista style).
The style of these previous-version icons does not match that of the new version.

Solution:
update all previous-version ICONs to win7style.

view shapshot:
http://www.windows7taskforce.com/thumb/icons_need_update1.png/x/560

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Sat, 06 Jun 2009 01:34:37 Z

http://www.windows7taskforce.com/view/2075

[suggestion #6] complete remove Windows Mail from Windows 7

Problem:
Now Windows Mail already can't start. It's already unsupported in win7.
But it's still remain on the win7 (\Program Files\Windows Mail\).

If you go to the \Program Files\Windows Mail\ folder, you'll still find the Windows Mail folder and those files in them. And you can't run WinMail.exe.

Solution:
Complete remove Windows Mail from Windows 7
Please delete WinMail.exe (It can't run)
If other files very important, please move other files to system32 folder.
Don't put them in \Program Files\Windows Mail\ folder.

view snapshot:
http://www.windows7taskforce.com/thumb/Windows.Mail.need.complete.removed.png/x/560

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Sat, 06 Jun 2009 01:36:19 Z

http://www.windows7taskforce.com/view/2075

[suggestion #7] Windows Defender update color layout and toolbar UI to win7style

Problem:
Windows Defender color layout and UI isn't win7style.
win7style color layout is light blue, not dark blue.

Solution:
Windows Defender update color layout and toolbar UI to win7style
like Windows Photo Viewer or Windows DVD Maker.

view snapshot:
http://www.windows7taskforce.com/thumb/update.color.layout.and.UI.to.win7style.png/x/560

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Sat, 06 Jun 2009 01:37:26 Z

http://www.windows7taskforce.com/view/2071

[suggestion #8] Windows Fax and Scan's toolbar update to win7style

Problem:
Windows Fax and Scan's toolbar update to win7style.
like Windows Photo Viewer or Windows DVD Maker.

Solution:
Windows Fax and Scan's toolbar update to win7style

view snapshot:
http://www.windows7taskforce.com/thumb/Windows.Fax.and.Scan_toolbar_no_win7style.png/x/560

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Sat, 06 Jun 2009 01:38:42 Z

http://www.windows7taskforce.com/view/1825

[suggestion #9] Stand-alone Pin Recycle Bin to Taskbar

Problem:
Currently, Recycle Bin was Pinned of the Windows Explorer Jumplist.
It is very unhandy. Because the Recycle Bin is a frequently used module.
But put on desktop often covered with other window...

Solution:
Stand-alone Pin Recycle Bin to Taskbar (default).
With not show Recycle Bin icon on desktop (default).
Of course, you can Unpin this Recycle Bin from taskbar.

view snapshot:
http://www.windows7taskforce.com/thumb/Stand-alone_Pin_RecycleBin_To_Taskbar6.png/x/560

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Sat, 06 Jun 2009 01:40:13 Z

[suggestion #10] bootscreen delete "Starting Windows" text for other language

Problem:
If you use Japanese / Chinese / Korean / Thai / Other Language.
In FULLSCREEN look bootscreen, the other language "Starting Windows" text very big, very ugly.

Solution:
bootscreen remove "Starting Windows" text for other language

view snapshot:
http://www.windows7taskforce.com/thumb/bootscreen_delete_text.png/x/560

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Sat, 06 Jun 2009 01:42:30 Z

[suggestion #11] Windows Journal update to Ribbon-based UI

Problem:
Bill Gates say: We'll Use the Ribbon/Fluent User Interface across Windows 7.
But why only the Paint and WordPad?
He forget Windows Journal and some application.

Solution:
Windows Journal update to Ribbon-based UI

view snapshot:
http://www.windows7taskforce.com/thumb/Windows.Journal.need.ribbon.png/x/560

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[suggestion #12] Windows PowerShell ISE update to Ribbon-based UI

Problem:
Bill Gates say: We'll Use the Ribbon/Fluent User Interface across Windows 7.
But why only the Paint and WordPad?
He forget Windows PowerShell ISE and some application.

Solution:
Windows PowerShell ISE update to Ribbon-based UI

view snapshot:
http://www.windows7taskforce.com/thumb/Windows_PowerShell_ISE_need_Ribbon.png/x/560

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Sat, 06 Jun 2009 01:45:27 Z

http://www.windows7taskforce.com/view/1579

[suggestion #13] Windows Photo Viewer support GIF, MNG format

Problem:
1. Windows Photo Viewer can't open .GIF, MNG, APNG format
2. IE8 can't open MNG, APNG format

Solution:
support required

GIF http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graphics_Interchange_Format
MNG http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiple-image_Network_Graphics
APNG http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animated_Portable_Network_Graphics

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Sat, 06 Jun 2009 02:02:51 Z

http://www.windows7taskforce.com/view/2075

[suggestion #6] complete remove Windows Mail from Windows 7

Problem:
Now Windows Mail already can't start. It's already unsupported in win7.
But it's still remain on the win7 (\Program Files\Windows Mail\).

If you go to the \Program Files\Windows Mail\ folder, you'll still find the Windows Mail folder and those files in them. And you can't run WinMail.exe.
Solution:
Complete remove Windows Mail from Windows 7
Please delete WinMail.exe (It can't run)
If other files very important, please move other files to system32 folder.
Don't put them in \Program Files\Windows Mail\ folder.

view snapshot:
http://www.windows7taskforce.com/thumb/Windows.Mail.need.complete.removed.png/x/560

I happen to use Windows Mail and actually cannot stand Windows Live mail or any 3rd party knock off. Therefore I don't want them to remove functionality.

lforbes

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Sat, 06 Jun 2009 02:05:34 Z

I'm getting pretty close to being burned out with Windows 7 RC 7100, both 32-bit and 64-bit.

Been using it extensively for 5 solid weeks now, trying to get it setup as close to my XP Pro systems as possible. Wasn't easy but I did finally Windows 7 set up as close as I could to my XP Pro setups. XP Pro...what can I say. I've already stated my feelings about Windows 7 vs. XP Pro several times in this forum. I reckon I feel like saying it again: Windows 7, 32-bit or 64-bit, cannot even hold a candle to XP Pro, 32-bit or 64-bit.

There are only a handful of nice features that are appealing (over XP Pro) to me: Media Center, the new Toolbar, the Gagdets, and the overall look. That is it (everything else is just pure garbage). That is all that Windows 7 has to offer as to anything that will win over long-time XP Pro users. As far as I'm concerned, it's not even remotely enough. There might be a few other features that I left out, but they're no consolation at all.

The transition from all the 9x base systems to NT based XP Pro was excellent and very welcoming. On the flip-side, the transition from XP Pro to Vista was horrible - likewise with Windows 7.

Yeah...I'm sticking wth XP Pro alright.

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Sat, 06 Jun 2009 02:29:39 Z

The default action for pen flick left is Forward ; the default action for pen flick right is Back . Wtf?

The arrow on Back button looks like "<- " -- it points left . So why left flick is Forward , and vice versa?? It should be the other way around! No, seriously, wtf?

Regards,
Kristaps.

P.S.: Epic shoop is epic.

it makes sense if you think of the pen as an extension of your hand. how do you move forward while reading a book? by grabbing the page and flicking to the left. unless of course your language reads right to left, in which case it's the reverse.

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Sat, 06 Jun 2009 04:22:13 Z

Hi, you can add a feature for change the selected Themes every selected time?
Like 'Personalization\desktop Background\Change picture every:'

E.g:
Change Themes every:
                                  - 1h
                                  - On logon
                                  - 24h
                                  - one time per week
....

please! sorry my english is not perfect :|

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Sat, 06 Jun 2009 11:22:25 Z

Summary: Provide the ability to select Windows Classic theme at installation time

yes, I know, Files and Settings but why force this on us when you could ask us
which flavor of theme we want when we install Windows?

Which Theme do you want with this install?

Windows Classic
Windows XP
Windows Vista
Windows 7

see what I mean bugger bean?

Then when the install is complete Windows has the look we want.

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Sat, 06 Jun 2009 13:06:46 Z

That's nothing -- I have actually found several Win9x-era icons :D

Regards,
Kristaps.

P.S.: Epic shoop is epic.

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Sat, 06 Jun 2009 13:07:54 Z

trying to get it setup as close to my XP Pro systems as possible

Why? 7 is completely different, apart from having a desktop, start menu, taskbar and files & folders. :P

Regards,
Kristaps.

P.S.: Epic shoop is epic.

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Sat, 06 Jun 2009 13:11:37 Z

Yes, it's be fine if I'm reading a book, but I'm using a computer :P

When you put it that way, it kinda makes sense. However, I'm using a tablet. If it was screen+finger, then it would've probably made sense from the beginning :D

Regards,
Kristaps.

P.S.: Epic shoop is epic.

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Sat, 06 Jun 2009 15:01:29 Z

A tablet is more like a book than a screen, so it especially makes sense on a tablet.

The pen interface uses a different model from the normal GUI. In the normal GUI, to scroll down, for ex, you hit pgdn, or down arrow key, or click the down scroll button. But with a pen or touch or other gesture interface, you flick UP to scroll down. The idea is to treat the screen as a piece of paper. If you want to see what's at the bottom of a newspaper, you don't move the paper down, do you? You move it UP.

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Sat, 06 Jun 2009 15:52:25 Z

With Windows Classic theme and medium fonts (125%), the Alt+Tab dialog has redraw issues - the selection rectangle overlaps the selected icon, and when it moves to another icon, the part it covered isn't redrawn. This problem also exits in Vista.

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Sat, 06 Jun 2009 17:36:00 Z

Its very hard to remove the window7..after install thw window 7 ,window xp and other windows doesnt work on your work..even no any option is available..so be carefull..but its fantastic..i ask to microsoft company please create a needful software that are important in our life and in using the computer because many32bit softwares are not support by window 7 64bit..so i request the microsoft company..and i am very thankful for such a beautifull window..thanks alot..

Royal Boy

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Sat, 06 Jun 2009 18:36:14 Z

Still having some problems with running the RC on older computers that had XP. System specs say it supports Aero but 7 doesn't catch the latest drivers. But runs flawless on highend PCs.

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Sat, 06 Jun 2009 18:56:05 Z

Hi,

Vietnamese collation is broken from Windows XP, still broken in Windows 7. Please, fix it.

Thanks

NgocND

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Sat, 06 Jun 2009 20:27:05 Z

I'm getting pretty close to being burned out with Windows 7 RC 7100, both 32-bit and 64-bit.

Been using it extensively for 5 solid weeks now, trying to get it setup as close to my XP Pro systems as possible. Wasn't easy but I did finally Windows 7 set up as close as I could to my XP Pro setups. XP Pro...what can I say. I've already stated my feelings about Windows 7 vs. XP Pro several times in this forum. I reckon I feel like saying it again: Windows 7, 32-bit or 64-bit, cannot even hold a candle to XP Pro, 32-bit or 64-bit.

There are only a handful of nice features that are appealing (over XP Pro) to me: Media Center, the new Toolbar, the Gagdets, and the overall look. That is it (everything else is just pure garbage). That is all that Windows 7 has to offer as to anything that will win over long-time XP Pro users. As far as I'm concerned, it's not even remotely enough. There might be a few other features that I left out, but they're no consolation at all.

The transition from all the 9x base systems to NT based XP Pro was excellent and very welcoming. On the flip-side, the transition from XP Pro to Vista was horrible - likewise with Windows 7.

Yeah...I'm sticking wth XP Pro alright.

David -

Ok.. We get that you don't like Windows 7.

So... Like why are you still here? You keep posting essentially the same thing over and over again. Maybe you just need acknowledgement. Ok.. Thank you for telling us you hate 7 and want XP.

You'll have to forgive us if the rest of us don't all agree with you. Some of us actually LIKE Windows 7 better than XP.

Feel free to use XP. No one's going to hold a gun to your head, force you to upgrade. There won't be any roaming goon squads at Best Buy or other computer retailers making you an offer you can't refuse. You're still free to use XP until the last bit of hardware that supports it drops dead of old age.

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Sat, 06 Jun 2009 20:50:58 Z

David -

If you want to see the smoke effects rise from InfraRecorder, you need an Aero-capable O/S. Vista or Win7. That's the choice.

XP is not an option.

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Sat, 06 Jun 2009 21:20:53 Z

Ok.. We get that you don't like Windows 7.

So... Like why are you still here? You keep posting essentially the same thing over and over again. Maybe you just need acknowledgement. Ok.. Thank you for telling us you hate 7 and want XP.

Wolfie -

You're welcome. I don't actually hate Windows 7. I even like it in fact. Some of the features that I mentioned earlier brought out what was best about Windows 7 and I will miss them. But, there were just way too much about Windows 7 that brought out too much of the worst of Windows 7. If I hate anything it's these boobs at Microsoft for taking what is a great OS like XP Pro and totally abandoning it in a sense for this newer based Vista platform ____. Yes...____. There was no reason for it at all other than a complete assinine marketing gimmick that ultimately failed with Vista and will continue to fail with Windows 7.

By the way, it was not my intention to run my sentiments up everyone's nose; just Microsoft's and all their puppet partners. They (Microsoft and Co.) wanted my opinion and this is the place for it. I'm going to take every advantage and opportunity to voice that opinion. I neglected to do that when I was testing the Vista RC's since I got so fed up with the treatment and nonsense that I had to put up with in that forum that I just shined it on and gave up. Does that help you understand...why I am here?

I've put in a TON of effort and time in getting aquainted with Windows 7. It wasn't all bad. But most of it was.

Someday I am going to be forced to stop using XP Pro. Microsoft isn't going to support it forever. In the meantime, I am going to test every OS that Microsoft puts out. I can only hope that one of these day that Microsoft is going to wise up and get it right.

Microsoft is the king of the hill for now, but that isn't going to last forever either. Eventually, (just around the corner - I can feel it) someone's going to bust this whole monopoly that Microsoft has on this planet WIDE OPEN and Microsoft's Ivory Castle (and everybody in it) is going to crumble to the ground. And I AM GOING TO SIT BACK AND LAUGH UNTIL I BURST AT THE SEAMS. They deserve all the misfortune that lies in waiting for them.

This....is Good Bye.

Thanks to all the people for whatever help they were able to provide.

So long.

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Sat, 06 Jun 2009 22:33:28 Z

Ok.. We get that you don't like Windows 7.

So... Like why are you still here? You keep posting essentially the same thing over and over again. Maybe you just need acknowledgement. Ok.. Thank you for telling us you hate 7 and want XP.

Wolfie -

You're welcome. I don't actually hate Windows 7. I even like it in fact. Some of the features that I mentioned earlier brought out what was best about Windows 7 and I will miss them. But, there were just way too much about Windows 7 that brought out too much of the worst of Windows 7. If I hate anything it's these boobs at Microsoft for taking what is a great OS like XP Pro and totally abandoning it in a sense for this newer based Vista platform ____. Yes...____. There was no reason for it at all other than a complete assinine marketing gimmick that ultimately failed with Vista and will continue to fail with Windows 7.

By the way, it was not my intention to run my sentiments up everyone's nose; just Microsoft's and all their puppet partners. They (Microsoft and Co.) wanted my opinion and this is the place for it. I'm going to take every advantage and opportunity to voice that opinion. I neglected to do that when I was testing the Vista RC's since I got so fed up with the treatment and nonsense that I had to put up with in that forum that I just shined it on and gave up. Does that help you understand...why I am here?

I've put in a TON of effort and time in getting aquainted with Windows 7. It wasn't all bad. But most of it was.

Someday I am going to be forced to stop using XP Pro. Microsoft isn't going to support it forever. In the meantime, I am going to test every OS that Microsoft puts out. I can only hope that one of these day that Microsoft is going to wise up and get it right.

Microsoft is the king of the hill for now, but that isn't going to last forever either. Eventually, (just around the corner - I can feel it) someone's going to bust this whole monopoly that Microsoft has on this planet WIDE OPEN and Microsoft's Ivory Castle (and everybody in it) is going to crumble to the ground. And I AM GOING TO SIT BACK AND LAUGH UNTIL I BURST AT THE SEAMS. They deserve all the misfortune that lies in waiting for them.

This....is Good Bye.

Thanks to all the people for whatever help they were able to provide.

So long.

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I've used Several adjectives/nouns (whatever) that you used, and it caused someone here to write I was offensive and undprofessional, even though I've found several posts using the exact language. It (at first impression) is wildly inconsistent, but it must be how they've said it, or how much they've contributed in the past to make whatever they say as good as gold.
I feel the same way about some features of vista vs XP, or win 7 vs XP. Windows search seems slower in win7 vs xp. One of my video cards, the faster one, is 23% or so faster in XP. Search MUST be better, Video Must be better, it's my only logical conclusion. It must be the way it's put together that makes people like it, I don't have a better explanation.
My apologies in advance (yes, my status is so low here I need to obsequiate needlessly and in advance). But
I welcome posts like DavidLeeDavis's because who knows, 2-3% might take it as a bright idea to make something faster or easier to use.

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Sun, 07 Jun 2009 00:31:49 Z

When Align to grid is disabled and I put a icon over other, there a bug, in transparency:

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Sun, 07 Jun 2009 01:01:23 Z

Now see the difference

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Sun, 07 Jun 2009 02:41:42 Z

Summary: Provide the ability to select Windows Classic theme at installation time

What's the point of doing this at install time v. once things are running? It only takes four seconds and two clicks to do it yourself and most people (I'm guessing ~60%) aren't going to switch to either Windows Classic or Aero Basic at will. This setting is in no way mission critical or important enough to warrant at install time either, especially considering they made a goal to reduce the amount of user input in 7.

And they aren't forcing anything, it's default. Saying Aero is being forced on you is like saying things like 96 DPI, Double-click to open, and border padding being set to 4 are being forced on you. These, like Aero, might be on by default but can easily be turned off or modified.

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Sun, 07 Jun 2009 03:37:10 Z

God I hate windows 7. after 2H just format and installed XP. I've a good PC, poweful enough.
feels like MS forcing us to switch to Mac. why they have so focuse on Themes? I thought they have learned something from failure Vista.
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Hope XP returns

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Sun, 07 Jun 2009 03:53:35 Z

Why the changes to WMP? The functionality of WMP 10 was much better and easier. Also-downloading codecs to run videos which are only 4 years old (Absolute Beginners series) What gives? I really do not see much of an improvemment over Vista Sp2 in this RC version Sorry, for my everyday use it gives no real advantage Everything is very difficuult to use and the beenefits of using WMP are rapidly fading. The controls (buttons) are hard to find, the options are almost non existent, pulling up the equalizer, etc is such a pain, I might as well use something else

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Sun, 07 Jun 2009 04:48:16 Z

Three part comment, excuse the writer's block:
Loved The dancing people in Microsoft Plus, an option if your computer was idle for a bit. They are gone but
the dancing waters of Vista was nice too
(dancing would be better though)
My biggest thing with Most versions post 98 (or so) is they never know when to stop everything to run the benchmark or the game.
"Stop Dancing! I need to play now. Or something"
But If I need to stop the game to go to my desktop and speak on the phone, I'd want my boss's animated form dancing on the aero water.
Now that I've been merged (Thank you) This was never meant to be a comment about Win 7, especially "As-Is", it was wistfully remembering "Microsoft dancer" & inviting comments on whether extras such as the ones "Microsoft plus" provided, and Vista integrated, were desirable (at idle time, anyway). Whatever they've decided has been "frozen", I'm sure, so excuse the interruption.

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Sun, 07 Jun 2009 09:37:45 Z

Sometimes taskbar's icon color detection goes wrong, and that nice on-hover glow has the wrong color . It could be nice if we could manually adjust that color in the shortcut's properties .

Regards,
Kristaps.

P.S.: Epic shoop is epic.

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Sun, 07 Jun 2009 09:40:20 Z

And I know that some will be against this, but maybe it could be a good idea to make file extensions gray-ish. kinda like some web browsers do with the address, sans domain.
It'd look pretty also :P

Regards,
Kristaps.

P.S.: Epic shoop is epic.

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Sun, 07 Jun 2009 10:20:18 Z

I used Windows7 for a week. It's very stable, faster than Vista (not XP) but something should fix in full release,

1. I'm using Thai Language Interface, I saw some language mistakes such as

- In disk properties, unit of diskspaces(Gigabyte) was fall from "กิกะไบต์" to "กิกะ" and "ไบต์" was fall on column

- In search indexing options, In "ตัวเลือกขั้นสูง", 2nd choice in "การตั้งค่าแฟ้ม" the word "แตกกต่าง" is wrong, the true is "แตกต่าง"

- some words and grammas will be recheck such as "Wireless Adaptor" won't be translated to "อะแดปเตอร์ไร้สาย" but will be"อุปกรณ์ต่อพ่วงไร้สาย" or something like that.

2. I have problem in AMD's Cool'n'Quiet (AMD Powernow!) function, My Laptop using AMD Turion64x2 TL-58 I download all of applications and drivers in AMD site and try Windows Update. but I can't use this function. My Laptop's BIOS setup haven't a choice for enable/disable this function but this function still work in my Windows XP. I was checked in power properties but nothing's happenned.

3. Disk Management will be fix, I used it for build, delete, merge , reduce/increase size of partition. A problem was shown sometime such as in reduce partition size period*(1), when I was successfully set, All wizard closed, partition space changed, but no notification for status. I wait for 1 and a half hour for operation (I saw my disk operation LED still bringing) but nothing show me how about, Unallocate space still not show. I close program and system allow it closed with no warning message I tried to open it again but it's hang. I restarted system and I saw my disk space was disappeared. I gave it back by delete all partition and rebuild it all.

I use Windows 7 RC1 build 7100 (both 32and 64bit); Readyboost, Large system cache, Backup utility functions are used.

Specification:

Laptop Benq P41

AMD Turion64x2 TL-58 (Replaced from AMDTurion64x2 TL-50)

Ram Corsair Gamer 4gb (Dual Ch.) (64MB IGP-shared)

ATI Xpress1100+SB400 Mainboard+IGP

HDD Samsung 160gb SATA

2 External Drives (WD Elements 1TB**+Samsung Custom External 120GB) **get problem*(1)

Silicon Power 4gb flashdrive for Readyboost

DSL network from Billion Bipac-7000 USB modem (Internet connected on 32bit version because of missing driver in 64bit version.)

I have some comment:

1. Audio mixer is same as Vista but it's junk. I am a sound developement and I think older style is the best.

2. UAC was great in security but it's alway makes me angry because I alway "Run as Administrator" everytime I use program for fully use with no trouble such as "Cannot save file" "Cannot connect to device".

PS. but I still love in XP system, please make it return.

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Sun, 07 Jun 2009 12:53:49 Z

Hi,

it isn't exactly clear I think what the contents of this thread is. You are having a problem with a game // screensaver I understand that was OK on Vista?

I don't know if it's ok on this part of the forum, see if you can place the question in a more appropriate part of Microsoft Forums.

Ciao,
Sabine

---Just a HP Mini Netbook running Windows 7 RC ---

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Sun, 07 Jun 2009 13:17:36 Z

And I know that some will be against this, but maybe it could be a good idea to make file extensions gray-ish. kinda like some web browsers do with the address, sans domain.
It'd look pretty also :P

Actually, I think this is a really good idea. I'd also say I think at this point making extensions hidden by default is a big mistake. It just makes it easier for malware authors to trick naive users. It can still be an option, but I think by this point in history, most people are aware and comfortable with the concept of extensions and it's better to have them displayed by default. Making the extension visually different from the rest of the filename in explorer, such as making it grey, is even better as the extension will still be visible as an extra verification of the filetype and also highlighting which is the real extension, making it harder to fake an extension.

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Sun, 07 Jun 2009 13:22:00 Z

Hi,

well I think the part of animated themes isn't ready yet. Or no such themes are made yet. But I don't believe it's discontinued.

Windows Vista used "theme files" and 7 uses "theme packs", these are different formats so they are not compatible.

Its only a matter of time when the RTM is on shelves for such themes to be back in Windows 7 again.

Ciao,
Sabine

---Just a HP Mini Netbook running Windows 7 RC ---

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Sun, 07 Jun 2009 13:24:26 Z

I'm still having serious issues with Wifi connectivity in Windows 7. It's improved somewhat with the RC over the beta but still happens often enough to be very irritating. When recovering from sleep or hibernation, sometimes the WiFi adepter will not be able to access the Internet. There seems to be some kind of bug with DNS resolution as there is no problem accessing the local network, but the internet fails as all addresses remain unresolved. Running the troubleshooter often successfully identifies a DNS issue as the problem, but then the troubleshooter neither fixes the problem nor proposes any useful solutions, so it's rather useless.

Sometimes disconnecting from the WiFi network and reconnecting will fix the problem but often this won't work. Usually disabling the network adapter then re-enabling it will fix the problem, but occasionally its intractable and a reboot is required.

Also, the WiFi icon in the notification area doesn't provide any visual indication if the internet is working or not. You need to open up the networking control panel to see if internet access is working or not. The icon shows WiFi connectivity and signal strength but it would be helpful if it also showed if Internet connectivity is present or not so when you get a webpage timeout you have a quick way of knowing where the problem is. Either an overlay with an internet icon or even different colours: yellow = local network connectivity, green = Internet connectivity, red = WiFi signal but some serious network problem.

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Sun, 07 Jun 2009 13:35:19 Z

I'd still really like to see improvements to the text provided on the taskbar. I use the group when full option on the taskbar as I find this much more efficient to use than having to click twice every time I want to switch a window and I also appreciate having window title on the taskbar buttons to more quickly locate which button controls which window. However, in Explorer, for instance, if I check the show full path in title bar then I can only see the same beginning of the path on each button without being able to tell which window belongs to each. If I uncheck that option, then I can't tell the difference between folders with the same name in different tree branches (or the network). It would be better if the middle of the name was removed and the beginning and and was displayed so that both relevant pieces of information: folder name and path root, are visible simultaneously.

I've also noticed that the tooltip that comes up is limited to 2 lines of text and a certain maximum width, so if the path is very long the end is truncated. It would be nice if the full title could be visible at all, times, especially if there was an option to have it always visible above the thumbnail preview without requiring you to move to each and pause to have the tooltip come up.

Speaking of which, it would be EXTREMELY nice to have an option (even if it's just a registry key) to set the delay time before the tooltip comes up so that I could make them come up faster and not waste so much time waiting around for tooltips to appear so I can find my window.

Thumbnails can be useful but in many cases there's just not enough visual distinction between windows for thumbnails to destinguish between them. A combination of thumbnails with a more thoughful approach to text labels would make things much more efficient. Even having the ability to choose per application if I can get thumbnail previews, or instead get a text list (such as you get if Aero is disabled or there are too many windows to fit all the thumbnails in the screen).

Thanks!

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Sun, 07 Jun 2009 13:57:08 Z

Hello,

OK, we have the RC now, so no big changes wll be implemented I think, but what I would highly appreciate to have would be the option to make incremental/differential backups. I like the new backup feature and it makes it obsolete having 3rd party backup software for clients/laptops - just out of the box backups on network drives ...

Windows 7 looks very good to me. It is this kind of OS I can recommend to customers being more productive, efficient and organized. Good ideas have been worked out and have realized straight forward.

Thanks,
Rainer

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Sun, 07 Jun 2009 14:45:35 Z

After 10 failed attempts at trying to install the RC on my 2.5 year old computer, I have to say Windows 7 has been a very disappointing experience. After all the media hype around this supposed messiah of an OS that would single handedly save PCs from the evil claws of Steve Jobs, and it turns out any hardware older than 2 years gets no support. If this RC really is any indication of the final product, I am going to hold off on the purchase and find ways to test the product on my machine before making any decisions.

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Sun, 07 Jun 2009 15:21:52 Z

I know that post I wrote above was supposed to be my Swan Song...

But, Prodaroda -

I have to say something about this....

10 failed attemps on a 2.5 year old machine? No support for any hardware older than 2 years? What are you talking about? All my hardware is almost 4 years old and I had no problems at all installing Windows 7 (32-bit or 64-bit). Believe me, none of the issues that I had were even remotely hardware related.

Sounds like you have some serious hardware/configuration conflicts. There are people having sucessful installations of Windows 7 on much older systems than mine.

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Sun, 07 Jun 2009 15:52:08 Z

WMP12 dual monitor problem:

OS: Windows 7 RC
GPU: Diamond ATI Radeon 2600XT HD
GPU Driver: ATI 9.5

here is the bug:

two monitors, main one is the PC monitor (SyncMaster 2253BW) and the secondary is the HDTV (Samsung series 6).

now when moving WMP12 window to the HDTV and then enter it in Full Screen mode (while video is being played of course), a simple mouse click on my PC Monitor desktop will disable WMP12 full screen.

and this only happens on the PC monitor desktop, running IE, Firefox or anything won't disable WMP12 full screen on the HDTV.

Windows Photo Viewer dual monitor problem:

Why does Slideshow only works on a main display?

why can't i move Photo Viewer to the secondary monitor then start slideshow there? if i do that in Win7 RC the secondary display will turn all black and the main one will start the slideshow.

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Sun, 07 Jun 2009 16:51:34 Z

I'm using bigger letters because this needed to be in Vista, but after two service packs, it's still not there.

There is no Eject button once you've opened a removable drive.
There should be one in the Task Pane .
There should be one in the right-click menu .
There isn't.

And yes, there is plenty of room.

Regards,
Kristaps.

P.S.: Epic shoop is epic.

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Sun, 07 Jun 2009 20:34:07 Z

I will insist every time I can: open a folder with many images and/or movies is a zen exercise. You have to have a lot of patient while the bar fills EVERY TIME YOU OPEN THE FOLDER, even if you have not added, deleted or modified a sigle file.

I really miss the old thumbs.db in every folder. The actual system is really bad.

By the way, if you open a folder with many movies, you surely can't see the thumbnail of a lot of its. For a reason Windows Explorer always shows icons for several movies instead of thumbs (and it will be done for avi, mpg, wmv, mov or any kind of movie).

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Sun, 07 Jun 2009 20:59:20 Z

Dunno about you, but this folder opened instantly with all the thumbs and everything:

Regards,
Kristaps.

P.S.: Epic shoop is epic.

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Sun, 07 Jun 2009 21:11:00 Z

My install of Windows decides to throw out old thumbnails every 12 hours or so, forcing them to get regenerated whenever I open a video folder. Kind of annoying.

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Mon, 08 Jun 2009 05:15:12 Z

When in Regedit on Win7 I can't tell what folder is the open one because there doesn't seem to be a open or closed folder image, just the same one for both.

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Mon, 08 Jun 2009 06:09:57 Z

When in Regedit on Win7 I can't tell what folder is the open one because there doesn't seem to be a open or closed folder image, just the same one for both.

This bug exists in Vista as well. It drives me NUTS! I hate trying to figure out what folder I have open.

lforbes

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Mon, 08 Jun 2009 06:41:04 Z

When in Regedit on Win7 I can't tell what folder is the open one because there doesn't seem to be a open or closed folder image, just the same one for both.

This bug exists in Vista as well. It drives me NUTS! I hate trying to figure out what folder I have open.
lforbes

It's not a bug. They just made it more Explorer-like. You know. Just find what you're looking for on the bottom information bar. Easy. Convenient.

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Mon, 08 Jun 2009 12:48:00 Z

Yes, this is not a bug. Is just another thing that worked very well in XP and Microsoft wanted to destroy, with no reason at all.
For me, the list of this kind of thing is ever growing, and I find more and more examples every day.

Past this, another bug I just found:
I get RC1 7100 (English) and install it. The system is full english, perfect, I like it that way.
But, my sister wanted to see how the system would like in our native language, and I downloaded the language pack and installed it.
Reboot, ok, the system now have just one or other words in english, for sure I think they will fix it before the final version, no problem.
But, after she saw it, I wanted the system back in english, and unninstaled the language pack.
Reboot.
System is not full english anymore. While booting, I don´t see "Starting Windows" and at logon, I don´t see "Welcome", but instead, windows is still showing this two sentences in my native language (the very same one that is NOT in my system anymore).

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Mon, 08 Jun 2009 13:07:12 Z

Hiya

Unfortunately for me Windows 7 looks like a 'bug fixed' release of Windows Vista with possibly more bugs! Here is what I didn't like:

1. The window shake thing should have some sort of a nice transition/animation when other windows 'fall back' down to the task bar. When shaking it again, the current window loses focus and so you lose the grip on that window which is utterly annoying.

2. I *HATE* the User Access Control thing that pops up when you're about to do something!!! I thought that's GONE since Vista was much hated because of the gazillion questions that are popped up at you. Can't you learn anything from OS X!?

3. I *HATE* the thousand and one icons you find in the Control Panel view. Much of these do the same thing which is ever more confusing. Wastes a lot of times trying to hunt through. Please again, learn from Mac OS X's System Preferences! It's a highly simplified interface which works amazingly well.

4. The show desktop button at the edge is a waste of space and effort. It's counterintuitive. Please do something like 'expose' in Mac OS X.

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Mon, 08 Jun 2009 15:57:20 Z

I will insist every time I can: open a folder with many images and/or movies is a zen exercise. You have to have a lot of patient while the bar fills EVERY TIME YOU OPEN THE FOLDER, even if you have not added, deleted or modified a sigle file.

I really miss the old thumbs.db in every folder. The actual system is really bad.

By the way, if you open a folder with many movies, you surely can't see the thumbnail of a lot of its. For a reason Windows Explorer always shows icons for several movies instead of thumbs (and it will be done for avi, mpg, wmv, mov or any kind of movie).

Dr Gerry:

I think I recall your mentioning using K-Lite codec pack. There are some issues with Win7 and Thumbnail generation. Their FAQ says:

Q: I am not getting thumbnails for .mkv and .hdmov files on Windows 7 RC1 Build 7100

A: This is a bug in Windows 7. A proper solution/workaround has not yet been found at this time.

Also, during installation there are options to enable some thumbnail stuff. Did you? Maybe I'm overlooking it, but I don't see any way to un-configure that without totally re-installing K-Lite. Give that a try. BTW, there's a new MegaPack update ver 4.8.9 on the web now. (Applies over v4.8.5). :)

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Mon, 08 Jun 2009 16:03:43 Z

Not sure if I should post this here or in the application compatibility forum, but I think it would be nice if closing an open mail in Outlook from a taskbar thumbnail behaved the same as when you were closing an open explorer window. When you close an open explorer window the other thumbnails remain displayed allowing you to close many windows very quickly, but in outlook all the thumbnails disappear and you need to hover over the pinned outlook button again to close another window. I can understand it if the window needed to prompt you to save changes, but if the email closes with no further prompting this feature would be much more useful if the remaining thumbnails remained displayed.

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Mon, 08 Jun 2009 16:19:42 Z

As the thread OP states, this does not require a response, however I would like to bring an issue to your attention:

I am using Outlook 2007 SP2 on Windows 7 64-bit RC Build 7100. This is running on a Dell Latitude E6400. I typically hibernate my laptop without rebooting, since it's much faster to come back up.

I started noticing that my e-mail was only indexed from two weeks ago, and that lots of items were pending indexing. I finally ended up closing all my programs and rebooting my computer, and now it has started indexing e-mail again. I do not believe that files were affected, only e-mail.

Trevor Sullivan
Systems Engineer
OfficeMax Corporation

http://trevorsullivan.wordpress.com

Trevor Sullivan Systems Engineer OfficeMax Corporation

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Mon, 08 Jun 2009 16:27:45 Z

The tab order in Open and Save dialogs is broken - the column headers in file list receive focus after the file list itself (and before the filename field), requiring Shift+Tab twice to get from the filename field to the file list. This same problem was in Vista.

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Mon, 08 Jun 2009 16:33:09 Z

The tab order in Open and Save dialogs is broken - the column headers in file list receive focus after the file list itself (and before the filename field), requiring Shift+Tab twice to get from the filename field to the file list. This same problem was in Vista.

++

This is kind of annoying, but I've learned to deal with it.

Trevor Sullivan Systems Engineer OfficeMax Corporation

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Mon, 08 Jun 2009 17:35:43 Z

Dunno about you, but this folder opened instantly with all the thumbs and everything:

Regards,
Kristaps.

P.S.: Epic shoop is epic.

Thanks. Can I go to work at your home?.......

@derosnec‌:

I will insist every time I can: open a folder with many images and/or movies is a zen exercise. You have to have a lot of patient while the bar fills EVERY TIME YOU OPEN THE FOLDER, even if you have not added, deleted or modified a sigle file.

I really miss the old thumbs.db in every folder. The actual system is really bad.

By the way, if you open a folder with many movies, you surely can't see the thumbnail of a lot of its. For a reason Windows Explorer always shows icons for several movies instead of thumbs (and it will be done for avi, mpg, wmv, mov or any kind of movie).

Dr Gerry:

I think I recall your mentioning using K-Lite codec pack. There are some issues with Win7 and Thumbnail generation. Their FAQ says:

Q: I am not getting thumbnails for .mkv and .hdmov files on Windows 7 RC1 Build 7100

A: This is a bug in Windows 7. A proper solution/workaround has not yet been found at this time.

Also, during installation there are options to enable some thumbnail stuff. Did you? Maybe I'm overlooking it, but I don't see any way to un-configure that without totally re-installing K-Lite. Give that a try. BTW, there's a new MegaPack update ver 4.8.9 on the web now. (Applies over v4.8.5). :)

Thanks. I don't installed k-lite since I use W7 RC and I have this problem. I downloaded and installed the last version but the problem wasn't fixed.

Anyway, the "search" on the pics folders have nothing to do with k-lite. Why Windows Explorer needs to do this every time?

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Mon, 08 Jun 2009 17:41:27 Z

Another: the Windows Live Mail is a bug (more a bug than an application) since the beta times. I really miss the old Outlook Express: simple and bug free.

Will Microsoft fix the "unclose" error? 8 of every 10 times you use WLM it remains unclosed when you stop it.

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Mon, 08 Jun 2009 18:58:21 Z

I tried to install windows 7 RC on my eee 1002ha. I get black sreen on bootup and the Intel Chipset update proposed by windows update does not work.

I've found this answer in EEEuser.com forums but I think microsoft should fix this by the release of windows 7 final no?

http://forum.eeeuser.com/viewtopic.php?id=58307

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Mon, 08 Jun 2009 19:49:09 Z

Scenario:
User arrives at office and docks their laptop. They turn it on and go to the kitchen to get a cup of coffee. They come back and log in. They wait for programs in the startup folder to start, in this case it is only Outlook. They wait.

Suggestion:
Let user specifiy an account that can auto logon at startup, and for security purposes it will startup with the desktop locked.

New Scenario Post Suggestion:
User arrives at office and docks their laptop. They turn it on and go to the kitchen to get a cup of coffee. They come back and log in, and do not wait, system is ready to go.

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Mon, 08 Jun 2009 20:01:43 Z

I've been using the Windows 7 RC for the past two weeks on a brand new HP 6930p with a 64gb Samsung SSD.

Microsoft, I think you guys have a winner with this one. I'll spare you the Vista criticisms you are likely sick of, but suffice it to say that this release handles just about every one of them.

So far it's been fast, compatible, and very stable. It seems a little snappier than even XP, which is amazing. The new Taskbar is so so much cleaner and more efficient. So far I like it better than the dock on my Mac. Even the installation was a pleasure. It took 1/4 the time of Vista and around 1/2 the time of XP.

Considering this is an RC, I can't wait to see the finished product. Great Job!

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Mon, 08 Jun 2009 21:06:51 Z

What I noticed is that everything is more far apart. There is just a lot of space. I mean, at low resolutions, Start Menu will reach the top of the screen. File transfer dialog is also pretty big. Now this ain't a problem for those with touch screen monitors or bad vision or high resolutions, the rest might be happy with more compaction. Most likely, this won't happen, but it would be nice to have an option for a more compact interface where everything is closer together. For example file transfer dialog can probably shrink to half its size and still hold all the information.

Speaking of the copy dialog ones get when copying or transferring files, once I got one without really any information on it and not even a functioning progress bar - that is useless really.

Otherwise, guys, work on the bugs, hardware bugs and problems, stability, and performance. :)

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Mon, 08 Jun 2009 21:22:30 Z

I may have something to improve Windows 7..

I always do a clean install of Windows, when I have disconnected all the other hard drives. This is what I also did for 7. After installation etc I started to HotPlug my other hard drives running 7. It all went well, until the next reboot. I checked what went wrong. I found this:

The harddrive where Windows 7 was installed was seen as P1 in my bios. An other harddrive was seen as P0. As soon as I connected this harddrive I got a boot device error after POST.

Since eSata is becoming more common these days, I guess it would be very nice if I can keep a eSata drive connected during startup. No matter what hard drive I installed Windows 7 on. In XP or Vista I have never experienced this problem. Possible cause the boot manager?

I got it to work now, but I think this could be an enhancement.

Also I am missing a native TeamLan option or something. On my motherboard (dfi lanparty ut x58-t3eh8) there are two network cards available, but the driver today still is 32bit (last time I checked).

I also noticed I can't make my own toolbar anymore at the top of my desktop by dragging a folder to it. Not very important but many people I know use this for quickly accessing their favourite programs / games.

But so far I am very pleased to see what Windows 7 has become since the first released build. My games work flawlessly even though I use a x64 version.

And I am especially happy with the transparent windows XP with the virtual machine. This will convince my employer and our customers to step up to Windows 7. Only shortcuts should be placed on a place in the startmenu where it is easier to find for the 'normal' users.

Keep up the good work. I can't (but i will :) ) wait for the official release. In the meanwhile I keep on trying and testing out this version.

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Tue, 09 Jun 2009 01:33:57 Z

one feature I'd like to see is a return to film strip view. That will make viewing photos much better. (Some just want to view photos, and not deal with making minor edits, or files with tags etc.

Photos can be placed on a row on the bottom, the controls and then the picrture.

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Tue, 09 Jun 2009 01:36:15 Z

Anthony

It’s an absolutely brilliant product but a number of my requests, made over several years, have still been ignored. This seems to be my last chance until Window 8 is in conception.

1. A new feature that lists all Control Panel installation defaults, with a Reset ‘button‘.
2. Allow colours to be added to file names, e.g. right-click menu > Color > and choose Grey, Mauve or Yellow (I know Black, Blue, Green and Red are currently reserved). This feature would allow an extra Sort or Group By index.
3. Snipping Tool feature to allow text to be typed immediately, rather than having to load a program (say, Paint) to edit the picture.

Thank you.

1. Good idea.
2. Not sure about that, but I think the selected color should match the window color.
3. YES!. Just a simple text entry. No need to have all the fonts and bloat the simple program.

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Tue, 09 Jun 2009 01:39:43 Z

http://www.windows7taskforce.com/view/1811

[suggestion #1] keep Menu color layout consistency for Windows 7

Problem:
1)
to improve Appliaction Menu color. (discriminated Appliaction Menu color very difficult, looked vague.)
There is no consistency between the Start Menu and the Appliaction Menu.
To keep Start Menu and Appliaction Menu color style consistency, like Windows XP.

2)
Windiows Explorer Menu has 2 color layout styles in Windows7.
Please keep color layout consistency for Menu.
Why the 'Include in libary' used another color layout?

Solution:
keep Menu color layout consistency for Windows 7

view screenshot:
http://www.windows7taskforce.com/thumb/keep_Menu_color_layout_consistency.png/x/560

I'd rather have the new style then the older XP one.

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Tue, 09 Jun 2009 01:40:19 Z

http://www.windows7taskforce.com/view/1622

[suggestion #3] keep UI theme style consistency for Windows 7

Problem:
keep UI theme style consistency for Menu bar & Tool bar.
like Windows XP theme style's consistency.
Solution:
keep UI theme style consistency for Windows 7.

view snapshot:
http://www.windows7taskforce.com/thumb/UI_Style_Consistency.png/x/700

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Tue, 09 Jun 2009 01:41:00 Z

Most screens today do not need a "screen saver"

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Tue, 09 Jun 2009 03:06:00 Z

I installed the Windows 7 RC as a 64-bit on my Vostro 1510 to see if I a 64-bit OS would work first of all, and see if it would give me any more power. (My Previous OS, still on another partition, is Vista 32-bit.) Was I ever in for a pleasant surprise. Not only does the 64-bit processing work perfectly on my Intel Core 2 Duo T7250, but it appears that my hard drive is being read 3-5 times faster now than in Vista 32-bit. An example: Copying the setup files onto my flashdrive to install my system (3.05 GB) in Windows Vista was like a 50 minute ordeal. Transfer rate stayed pretty consistently below 1.2 MB/sec. Copying the 32 bit Windows 7 setup files onto my flash drive (2.37 GB) from inside Windows 7 took I expect, less than ten minutes, with transfer rates of over 6 MB/sec. (I actually walked away while before it finished copying. Unlike Vista, which told me something like a several hour estimate when the copying started, Windows 7 told me it was a 15 minute estimate, and when I walked away before it finished, it said 3 minutes left.

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Tue, 09 Jun 2009 07:13:35 Z

Media Center, WMP Bug ?
If I insert an Audio CD it downloads the cover album from web but no album or songs name. In Vista same Audio CD works fine - I get all the data about it.
Tested with 6 differents Audio CD.

Also - Media Center - it's a little bit difficult to navigate in the menu in some conditions - seems too sensitive - it takes 2 menus instead of one when I press the remote up or down.

Also - Media Center - It has an SPACE in the menu - probably to show it's the end of the menu, but as you move the menu from CENTER in XP or Vista to DOWN in some cases I don't know what comes next, due to this space.

Also - Media Center - please brings back videos on the install disc to properly set MC. Each time I want to set it properly it want to connect to internet to download files and videos. And I DON'T HAVE AN ALWAYS ON INTERNET CONNECTION.

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Tue, 09 Jun 2009 07:26:37 Z

Most screens today do not need a "screen saver"

Chris -

True... But they do come in handy - when keeping prying eyes away from sensetive data while you're AFK.

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Tue, 09 Jun 2009 09:33:16 Z

Since Windows 7 RC we have problems with the Program Compatibility Assistant. After our installation we get the message "This program might not have installed correctly" form the Program Compatibility Assistant. We get the message with installed applications too. This is a new behaviour. With Windows 7 Beta we don't get these messages with the same software. We can reproduce the different behaviour with Microsoft setup programmes:

Microsoft .NET Framework Version 1.1 Redistributable Package.

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?displaylang=de&familyid=262d25e3-f589-4842-8157-034d1e7cf3a3 dotnetfx.exe

Microsoft .NET Framework 2.0 Service Pack 2
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=5B2C0358-915B-4EB5-9B1D-10E506DA9D0F&displaylang=en NetFx20SP2_x86.exe

After the .net-installation we get the message "This program might not have installed correctly". When you select the "Reinstall using recommended settings" option, our application will be configured to run in vista mode. This is not our target. This is a big problem for us, because we have many applications which get the message since Windows 7 RC.

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Tue, 09 Jun 2009 10:50:10 Z

Why the new O.S. As Tim Allen says" more power harharr". Of course you need new hardware to use the power.
Surprisingly slow but with all the bells and whistles I would expect that.
Consumers want Bling We want speed without redundancy. Somewhere in between the O.S. has to live.
If it gets good reviews lots of harware will be sold. Plan on new hardware that the O.S. likes* because it
looks like it is here to stay.

*Has tuner card issues, video driver issues
also issues with onboard audio.Compatiblity mode
slows things down.

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Tue, 09 Jun 2009 11:38:07 Z

I found another strange bug and don't know for sure if it's a windows problem: I have pinned Firefox to the taskbar. Every time I start it the first time after a boot, it will open in a new "tab" on the bar instead of expanding the existing button.

Only when I close Firefox and reopen it, it opens correctly with the existing button. Btw, I'm using FF 3.5 beta4, so maybe it could be a FF bug, but I don't believe that, as the taskbar behaviour is managed by the OS itself (IMO).

Second issue:
That icon for your language and keyboard settings in the taskbar (don't know english name), it disappears when I rightclick certain tray symbols, look:

It disappears only at rightclick on realtek, avira and that white flag for problem solutions.
(It reappears again when I quit the menu.)

Third thing:
The prefetch files, especially those in the ReadyBoot folder, get very fragmented over time. That wouldn't be a problem as I can easily defragment them. But after a defrag, these "trace[number].fx"-files will quickly have about 40 fragments each!
So my question: Why do these files fragment so rapidly although I don't change my behaviour or something like that? Is that a bug or is it somehow more efficient for Windows to have them fragmented??

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Tue, 09 Jun 2009 20:16:19 Z

When in Regedit on Win7 I can't tell what folder is the open one because there doesn't seem to be a open or closed folder image, just the same one for both.

This bug exists in Vista as well. It drives me NUTS! I hate trying to figure out what folder I have open.
lforbes

It's not a bug. They just made it more Explorer-like. You know. Just find what you're looking for on the bottom information bar. Easy. Convenient.

So they designed it like this on purpose? That really makes no sense to me but then I have a lot of shaking of the head on things that weren't broken with XP that they broke on purpose for Vista/Windows 7. In Explorer in XP and in Regedit in XP BOTH have different folders for open and closed icons. The registry ones are more obvious.

Yes there is the information bar but when working in HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID it is FAR easier to see a folder than to try and find the GUID in the list of a thousand GUIDS.

lforbes

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Tue, 09 Jun 2009 20:19:50 Z

Most screens today do not need a "screen saver"

And they don't need fancy background images, fancy see through GUI's or floating menus either, however they are pretty and that I guess is the point.

lforbes

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Tue, 09 Jun 2009 20:54:09 Z

When in Regedit on Win7 I can't tell what folder is the open one because there doesn't seem to be a open or closed folder image, just the same one for both.

This bug exists in Vista as well. It drives me NUTS! I hate trying to figure out what folder I have open.
lforbes

It's not a bug. They just made it more Explorer-like. You know. Just find what you're looking for on the bottom information bar. Easy. Convenient.

So they designed it like this on purpose? That really makes no sense to me but then I have a lot of shaking of the head on things that weren't broken with XP that they broke on purpose for Vista/Windows 7. In Explorer in XP and in Regedit in XP BOTH have different folders for open and closed icons. The registry ones are more obvious.

Yes there is the information bar but when working in HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID it is FAR easier to see a folder than to try and find the GUID in the list of a thousand GUIDS.
lforbes

Yesitisfareasiertoreadarunonalphanumericstatusbarthanmerelyglancingatabluehighlightoropenedfoldericon.

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Tue, 09 Jun 2009 22:02:42 Z

When in Regedit on Win7 I can't tell what folder is the open one because there doesn't seem to be a open or closed folder image, just the same one for both.

This bug exists in Vista as well. It drives me NUTS! I hate trying to figure out what folder I have open.
lforbes

It's not a bug. They just made it more Explorer-like. You know. Just find what you're looking for on the bottom information bar. Easy. Convenient.

So they designed it like this on purpose? That really makes no sense to me but then I have a lot of shaking of the head on things that weren't broken with XP that they broke on purpose for Vista/Windows 7. In Explorer in XP and in Regedit in XP BOTH have different folders for open and closed icons. The registry ones are more obvious.

Yes there is the information bar but when working in HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID it is FAR easier to see a folder than to try and find the GUID in the list of a thousand GUIDS.
lforbes

Yesitisfareasiertoreadarunonalphanumericstatusbarthanmerelyglancingatabluehighlightoropenedfoldericon.

OT (sort of) Do comments matter anymore? Do WE (to quote wolfie) matter? consider
http://www.bing.com/search?q=%22windows+7%22+%2Brc2&form=IE8SRC&src=IE-SearchBox
and ask yourself, what are the beautiful people doing today?
IOW, knowing I can't afford to have an NDA agreement, where's the semi-official forum?

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Tue, 09 Jun 2009 22:24:41 Z

Anymore? We will need to think about that awhile.

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Wed, 10 Jun 2009 00:17:18 Z

"But in my view many settings we like to play around with nowdays are too hiden."

My friend, you are sooo right! It took me only 3 hours to build this computer for Windows 7, but after 3 weeks of using Windows 7, I still have a problem of finding my around and trying to remember where is what. Old clasic style Control Panel acted like a sign "you are here now", and from there I know where to go. I miss that.

Everything is so fragmented. Windows 7 is like a sport car, it runs fast and good, but I love my old SUV station wagon (read XP). Anyway it is still to early to make the final decision - 7 or XP. Good luck to you.

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Wed, 10 Jun 2009 01:28:59 Z

Just want to bring attention to a minor bug:
Hovering the mouse over the 'X' (close button) in any Device Properties dialog will make the 'X' start to blink rapidly. This is true in Vista as well.

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Wed, 10 Jun 2009 06:23:26 Z

<Continuation of long thread Have Comments about Windows 7 RC? (Part 3) >

To all forum users:

Please use this thread to note any comments that you have about Windows 7 Release Candidate (RC). Do not use this thread for any specific question or issue that you are having - just for comments or feedback. For questions/issues that require an answer, create a new thread.

Thanks

-Tony Mann
Windows Client IT Pro Audience Manager for Web Forums, Windows Client Forum Owner

I hope Microsoft take notice of the pattern here

there are more and more complains about Win7 and they aument exponentialy... why?? because you have to fix all the bugs and take notice of the things that werent broken in XP so they don't need a fix in Vista (much less in Win7)

Regards

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Wed, 10 Jun 2009 07:26:43 Z

Hi,

when you use WMP in that 'Now Playing' View, where you can open the Enhancements Menu seperately in it's own Window, is there any chance for the future that we can lock these windows together?

The transparent outer ring is great, the windows look great. Just make it a bit more coherent and let me stick my windows together. You'd have that powerful library view and the easy, smart, flat and small player view.

Also, could you maybe add a function that docks it in the sidebar, so I can pull it out of there any time I like? Generally, Windows should have a space where you can simply stuff things in, they get minimized and can be pulled out at any time. You should be able to just drag&drop a picture from a website into this space, also files and text. So when you are done surfing the net, you can check what you found and categorize it. This would make the whole "come-and-get-what-you want" sensation of the Windows 7 OS experience much more fluid.

Like opening the fridge and simply take whatever you want and then decide what you cook out of it. That could be quite an inspiring experience as well.

What do you think?

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Wed, 10 Jun 2009 11:28:01 Z

Problem 1. - IE 8 in InPrivate mode - sometimes if I have more tabs opened - 10 or more - takes all the sistem memory, and even more. Also does not remembers last "save" folder. If I download from a page in a folder, from 10 pages in 3 I have to set againn the path to the folder where I wand to downlaod files.

Problem 2. - System Restore - please set a decent limit for it. In XP I was able to select a limit for it, in Vista and 7 I can only disable on different partition, but I cannot set a maximum space for it to use on selected partition. So I have the only remaining choice to disable it on all partitions. If my system partition has 100 Gb - I can get 20 Gb of space waisted by System Restore. That means more than the operating system and all programs installed on it ( 15 Gb ). It's more convenient at this size to use an backup than an system restore...

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Wed, 10 Jun 2009 12:12:31 Z

Cristi -

re: Problem 2:

Actually.. You can set how much space is used by System Restore.

1.) Open the Control Panel and click on All Control Panel Items
2.) You should see the standard properties window that opens when you select Properties on the Computer icon in the Start Menu or on the desktop (should you have that enabled).
3.) On the left side, you should see a number of UAC protected options - the last should be "Advanced System Options". Click it.
4.) Click on the System Protection tab.
5.) Toward the middle, you should see a list of all hard drives/partitions available on your system.
6.) Find your system partition/drive and click on it once.
7.) Click on the Configure button just below the box with the drives.
8.) You should now see a slider bar near the bottom of the dialog box.
9.) Adjust to your heart's content.

Btw, the default space allocated for System Restore is 5%...

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Wed, 10 Jun 2009 12:36:33 Z

One nice feature in Devices and Printers is the ability to set the default printer for different networks so that the default printer changes as you move around on your laptop.

This worked brilliantly in the beta version but in RC seems to be broken. For one thing I'm using the Hamachi VPN application and it keeps adding the Hamachi network to the list of networks for choosing default printers. I'm able to remove it from the list but if I make any other changes it comes back. There needs to be a way to set a network to either have no default printer, or when removed to stay removed unless it is manually re-added.

More importantly, the default printer indicator in Devices and Printers does not change when I connect to different networks. When I go to Manage default printers, it correctly shows which network I'm connected to and which printer is supposed to be default, but this is not reflected in the main window. It's not clear if it's just the indicator that isn't being updated or if the actual default priner isn't being updated. I've got conflicting results when printing from different applications. But it's definitely not working as it should.

Also, this concept needs to be added to wired network adapter settings. I have several instances of different networks that require static IP and DNS configurations but only 1 static set of parameters can be entered into the adapter. There needs to be a way to save multiple profiles for different networks then select among them in the network control panel or directly from the network notificaiton icon.

There should also be an easier way to set up precidents of different network cards, VPNs, etc. This can be done but it requires going into the tools/advanced menu in the adapter control panel. It's quite hidden and unless you know it's there you probably won't find it. In particular, if a gigabit ethernet connection is available, it's easy to have both a gigabit and wireless conenction to the same network. So there should be an easy way to tell Windows I want to use the faster gigabit connection.

Even better might be if Windows 7 had a way to automatically choose the fastest active connection to the network, whichever that may be. EVEN better is if it could automatically bridge multiple connections to the same network to increase the overall bandwidth. If I'm connected over a 10/100 wired connection and a 130 mbps 802.11n connection, if it could combine them to ive me a 230 mbps connection, that would be ideal.

Thanks!

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Wed, 10 Jun 2009 12:56:59 Z

Also, this concept needs to be added to wired network adapter settings. I have several instances of different networks that require static IP and DNS configurations but only 1 static set of parameters can be entered into the adapter. There needs to be a way to save multiple profiles for different networks then select among them in the network control panel or directly from the network notificaiton icon.

Surprising limitation, isn't it? It seems the static parameters will apply on a per-network basis. Nope. One set per adapter, that's all you get.

Even better might be if Windows 7 had a way to automatically choose the fastest active connection to the network, whichever that may be. EVEN better is if it could automatically bridge multiple connections to the same network to increase the overall bandwidth. If I'm connected over a 10/100 wired connection and a 130 mbps 802.11n connection, if it could combine them to ive me a 230 mbps connection, that would be ideal.

Wow. Good idea!

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Wed, 10 Jun 2009 13:50:14 Z

I hope I have posted this correctly

On the whole i love W7, especially the enchanded desktop and that it is usable on 1gb ram

However I really struggle with the search function, as a power user I find it a mess (I dont doubt its great for new users and mac users), my home PC has 6 drives and structured folder system, all i need to be able to do is right click on a drive or a folder and search from that point onwards. I dont need random large pics of what ever apearing from random locations around my computer, I am happy with detailed view.

From a support point of view my users often give me mem sticks or ext usb drives with 10,000s of files on (there personal music / pics and work files) and asked to find a specific file and this is so much easier by being able to right click search.

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Wed, 10 Jun 2009 14:02:03 Z

Everything has been great for me so far. However, I don't have too much experience with the new UAC. It's not because I think it doesn't have a use on my machine, but I am using Comodo Firewall Pro that has a function similar to UAC. It also remembers my choices for programs which I allow access. So why have two UACs on, y'know? Anyway, there are a couple of things that annoy me here and there that are different from windows XP (speaking of which, Windows 7 64-bit pretty much replaced XP for me. I just use XP for the obscure game that won't run on 7).

However, one thing I'd like to see changes is the double-clicking to expand a directory in the navigation pane. I know this was present in Vista as well, but it annoys me constantly. I'd like to have the same thing in XP where you just single click a directory to expand it in the nav pane. Perhaps as an option? It would also be nice if we could rearrange the order of Categories in the nav pain for ourselves.

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Wed, 10 Jun 2009 14:32:04 Z

Another minor issue I run into is that sometimes if I right-click on something, it doesn't select the item first. I have to left-click, then right-click.

Here's one case where I can repro about 1/4 of the time.

Start -> type 'Network' and click on Network and Sharing Center. Then click on the Adapter settings.

Right-click on the various adapters. About 1/4 of the time for me it doesn't select it first. For example, I don't get the Properties option. Other times over the same adapter I do. So it's hit or miss. It's as if the 'select item' event isn't firing before it shows the right-click menu list.

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Wed, 10 Jun 2009 15:35:00 Z

@OWScott:

I also wondered about this strange behaviour (btw, it works in general, not only in network connections), but today I found out:
When the file is not selected and you rightclick into this baby blue box around the item, it may be like a rightclick on empty space if its too near on the border. Look: Only in the green (imaginary) box, the rightclick is correct; else not.

This is good for situations where you have plenty of files and want to click onto the background, but it bothers me, too.

Another issue:

After Stand-by (on RAM), the Cool and Quiet needs about 85 seconds after the appearing of the desktop to work again. In that time, the CPU works at full speed.
This occurs always after the RAM stand-by.

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Wed, 10 Jun 2009 18:00:01 Z

I miss a detailed search function. If it is there, I can't found it (so it is not as intuitive as it should be). I miss the old an loved "find a text into the files".

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Wed, 10 Jun 2009 19:06:12 Z

Copied from another post of mine:
<copypasta>

The search box in Windows 7 will allow you to search for anything, not just using the visible options. Below are how it distinguishes between queries:

Moonshine
This will return any file that has "Moonshine" in the file name, metadata, or contents.

Name:Moonshine
If you only want files with "Moonshine" in the name.

Content:Moonshine
To search exclusively for files with "Moonshine" in the contents.

Other examples:
Datecreated:thisweek
Author:Pompadour
Tag:Windows
Extension:zip (ext:zip works, too!)

</copypasta>

I have a docx file with the word "forklift" in it, all I need to do to find it (based on the fact this word is in the content) is type "forklift" into the search box in the top-right of Explorer. Search is still as powerful as ever, there just seems to be no UI for some obscure reason.

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» Clicking on WMP12's media controls make the main application window inactive.
» CTRL+LMB doesn't open links in a new window as it should in the Control Panel.
» Copy shouldn't bother users prompting to overwrite system files (desktop.ini, thumbs.db, if present).
» Links cannot be pinned to IE8 x64.
» When Explorer is set to single-click some old open/save dialogs have a delay between a click and its response that isn't
» present in Explorer anymore.

» How IE8's jumplist determines which window to open a link in is confusing. It's not always the newest window or not the last used. At very least when the Taskbar is showing multiple windows, each should act independent.

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Wed, 10 Jun 2009 20:34:57 Z

Please Windows 7 Producer and Community Manager,

I have a suggestion, I guess many have asked before, but it is definitely worth discussing.

Me personally and many other people who are into working with the PC very often, are upset about Windows Versions - this is because
the default Windows Versions want to do everything so easy as possible - that implies that everything has to be packed with blinking hint-bubbles and security warnings - this is annoying for me and even for "advanced home users"
Well I am just a gamer and not someone who is an true computer expert, but I tell you, there are many of my kind.

What I request is simple and guess isn't hard to realize!

Release Windows in different configuration - a LIGHT or a GAMER VERSION (a version placed before HOME BASIC, HOME PREMIUM, STUDENT, BUSINESS, ENTERPRISE, ULTIMATE - which is to many anyway) - being a competition for Linux and Small & Free OS

Do you know, how many people are looking for Programms and Mods for Making Windows a smaller and lighter OS (Windows Black Editions...) - without UAC, and many other things (it's up to you :) )
What shall I do, if I want small and fast Windows without Aero Surface, without needing 10 gig harddrive, without tons of widgets, without bells and whistles and maybe it could even run on old and slow PC's !! -> BRING THE LINUX USERS ON YOUR SIDE

A second idea is, letting the people chose before the Windows installation, whether the standart configuration or in an advanced mode, which components of windows shall be installed. (This idea would include the fact, that advanced users and gamers prefer the ultimate versions - I don't know why, maybe because of the name ;) )

My request is definitly worth discussing - you can win the hearts of a long unattended group of users - (and don't forget their force! they own all the PC and Online Journals/Portals ;) )

Well I guess that my post is hardly changing anything, but I still hope.

It's up to you...

(I'm sorry, this post ought to be posted in the Windows 7 Comments Threat)

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Wed, 10 Jun 2009 20:46:08 Z

Copied from another post of mine:
<copypasta>

The search box in Windows 7 will allow you to search for anything, not just using the visible options. Below are how it distinguishes between queries:

Moonshine
This will return any file that has "Moonshine" in the file name, metadata, or contents.

Name:Moonshine
If you only want files with "Moonshine" in the name.

Content:Moonshine
To search exclusively for files with "Moonshine" in the contents.

Other examples:
Datecreated:thisweek
Author:Pompadour
Tag:Windows
Extension:zip (ext:zip works, too!)

</copypasta>

I have a docx file with the word "forklift" in it, all I need to do to find it (based on the fact this word is in the content) is type "forklift" into the search box in the top-right of Explorer. Search is still as powerful as ever, there just seems to be no UI for some obscure reason.

----

» Clicking on WMP12's media controls make the main application window inactive.
» CTRL+LMB doesn't open links in a new window as it should in the Control Panel.
» Copy shouldn't bother users prompting to overwrite system files (desktop.ini, thumbs.db, if present).
» Links cannot be pinned to IE8 x64.
» When Explorer is set to single-click some old open/save dialogs have a delay between a click and its response that isn't
» present in Explorer anymore.

» How IE8's jumplist determines which window to open a link in is confusing. It's not always the newest window or not the last used. At very least when the Taskbar is showing multiple windows, each should act independent.

@vistaline
I like your post, it was very informative. I have a question about XML files, inspired by another poster. I could not remember who wrote what you just wrote, or what you wrote, so I am glad you rewrote it.
I know I can search an xml file and find "Text", but I think I also know that
I cannot find <text> or </text> (IOW, attributes).
Is this true?
Or is there a word that search needs, like "Attribute:text"?
I really killed the computer by trying to add explorer preview for pdf's, (way long story, and it rose again in three days). But an xml is shown as plain text. Is there a filter that exists that would allow xml attributes to be searched? (or just modify the existing filters to examine XML in plain text?)
PS xls can be explorer-previewed, but xlsm cannot. (office 2007 version) (?)

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Wed, 10 Jun 2009 20:56:22 Z

Hello

I know this is a small thing, but the second hand on the Vista Clock gadget would advance slightly more than one second and would then nudge back to the correct spot.... like you might expect on a big clock.

The second hand on the Windows 7 clock gadget isn't as interesting.

Like I said, a small point, but when I show the Vista clock to new PC customers they're also amazed/surprised at the attention to detail. This new one is a bit boring..... and normal.

Cheers

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Wed, 10 Jun 2009 21:11:33 Z

bambamfox -

Er... There already is a "light" version - it's called Starter. Don't bother looking for it on the store shelves - it won't be there. It's only available to OEMs and it's got serious limitations in so far as what kind of hardware it will run on. It's been limited to run on Netbook type systems where the screen can't be more than 10.1" diag, it can't have a CPU that's faster than 2 GHz. Nor more than 2 GB of RAM. Not exactly a gamer friendly system.

You also have Home Basic - which isn't quite as limited. It too is an OEM version - for export to developing areas. This version isn't going to be available in the US mainly because the Vista Home Basic version was one noone really wanted.

Secondly... In the realm of gaming, since when is Linux ANY sort of competition for Windows? Besides a few games that have been natively ported (WOW), gaming on Linux pretty much doesn't exist. WINE isn't much of a solution either. Linux users aren't likely to switch to Windows unless there was a really compelling reason to do so. Most Linux users use Linux because they want to get away from Microsoft, Windows, and "the man"... Even if Windows 7 were utterly perfect, I doubt most would convert back to Windows.

Third - the final install of Windows 7 only takes up about 8 GB - Not 10. Besides, hard disk space is DIRT CHEAP these days. When you've got a 500 GB to 1000 GB hard drive, 8 GB is NOTHING. You can get a 500 GB drive these days for well under $100. A 1000 GB (or 1 TB) drive goes for about $100 all day long if you look around you.

Fourth - You can also disable the sidebar from loading - sparing you from "the burden" of loading any gadgets.

Fifth - If you bothered doing ANY sort of research, you'd note that Windows 7 runs very nicely on a LOT of old hardware. The quoted minimum hardware for Windows 7 is a 1 GHz CPU, 1 GB of RAM, and a decent video card with 128 MB of dedicated memory. There are stories all over the web where people have SUCCESSFULLY run Windows 7 on 512 MB of RAM.

But a true gamer wouldn't be running a system that's so 1999 in this day and age.

So exactly what's missing? Seems like Microsoft has all of your points covered.

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Wed, 10 Jun 2009 21:27:24 Z

bambamfox -

Er... There already is a "light" version - it's called Starter. Don't bother looking for it on the store shelves - it won't be there. It's only available to OEMs and it's got serious limitations in so far as what kind of hardware it will run on. It's been limited to run on Netbook type systems where the screen can't be more than 10.1" diag, it can't have a CPU that's faster than 2 GHz. Nor more than 2 GB of RAM. Not exactly a gamer friendly system.

You also have Home Basic - which isn't quite as limited. It too is an OEM version - for export to developing areas. This version isn't going to be available in the US mainly because the Vista Home Basic version was one noone really wanted.

Secondly... In the realm of gaming, since when is Linux ANY sort of competition for Windows? Besides a few games that have been natively ported (WOW), gaming on Linux pretty much doesn't exist. WINE isn't much of a solution either. Linux users aren't likely to switch to Windows unless there was a really compelling reason to do so. Most Linux users use Linux because they want to get away from Microsoft, Windows, and "the man"... Even if Windows 7 were utterly perfect, I doubt most would convert back to Windows.

Third - the final install of Windows 7 only takes up about 8 GB - Not 10. Besides, hard disk space is DIRT CHEAP these days. When you've got a 500 GB to 1000 GB hard drive, 8 GB is NOTHING. You can get a 500 GB drive these days for well under $100. A 1000 GB (or 1 TB) drive goes for about $100 all day long if you look around you.

Fourth - You can also disable the sidebar from loading - sparing you from "the burdern" of loading any gadgets.

Fifth - If you bothered doing ANY sort of research, you'd note that Windows 7 runs very nicely on a LOT of old hardware. The quoted minimum hardware for Windows 7 is a 1 GHz CPU, 1 GB of RAM, and a decent video card with 128 MB of dedicated memory. There are stories all over the web where people have SUCCESSFULLY run Windows 7 on 512 MB of RAM.

But a true gamer wouldn't be running a system that's so 1999 in this day and age.

So exactly what's missing? Seems like Microsoft has all of your points covered.

I have several OEM versions of Microsoft software I mailed away for. Well skipping the intro and the conclusion, not on store shelves but you'd think (I hope) you can mail away for it. But you brought up a much more interesting point, the one about the limitation (screen size, etc). I interpreted that to mean that, only OEMS can order starter contracts covering a certain computer line meeting certain criteria. The implication being that in order to sell a tiny computer cheaper, it had better really be tiny. But you might be saying that the software might know that a computer is too well endowed to even install. That was supposed to be a question. Ok here goes: Is it a contractual thing or a requirement of the starter edition software?

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Wed, 10 Jun 2009 22:39:27 Z

Open the eventviewer. Drill to Application, for example. Select an event - a nice vivid bar appears to highlight the event. Doubleclick the event to bring up the event propertes. The blue bar disappears. As you use up/down arrows to navigate through the list, there is no bar to indicate which event in the list you are viewing. In previous versions of Windows, the bar turned a light gray, so it's either so light now it cannot be seen, or the highlighting is gone. You can notice a very slight discoloration of the icon beside the text in the Type field for the selected item.

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Wed, 10 Jun 2009 22:58:41 Z

well - the only thing I want, is a flexible windows without all that stuff for computer novices and exaggerated security stuff for businesses.

the more you know about PCs, the more you tend to get another OS (I hardly know computer scientists who mainly work with windows - I know - this is a microsoft forum, there will be a lot oppositions against me :) ). And the point with small/free OSs and linux is that games are produced for windows and gamers have no choice - it is not that gamers (and many other 'groups') like windows (i know this is a point that can be discussed for long, but I am sure that I'm right at this point).

and I know, that you can switch off all that unnecessary stuff - but it takes days to change everything the way it fits - have you read the changelog of the windows modifications that exist?

everything i want is a small tiny windows...
the OEM versions could be, what I'm searching for - but I think there is a market in the society, and microsoft can't loose much on releasing a version, which seems to already exist anyway... so why not?? (and even if it's not making a lot of profit directly, but the customer relations and versatility could fit good into microsoft future philosphy)

Well in my opinion microsoft experts should think about discussing that seriously.

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Wed, 10 Jun 2009 23:31:48 Z

Most screens today do not need a "screen saver"

And they don't need fancy background images, fancy see through GUI's or floating menus either, however they are pretty and that I guess is the point.
lforbes

Sigh, another dumb British from the UK.

I heard the qween is about to croke. better save her

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Thu, 11 Jun 2009 00:13:19 Z

Chitbill:
While an "Attributes" property exists, it's not oriented around this. Unfortunately, there is no way to search for xml tags explicitly at default settings, but assigning the plain text filter to XML should* allow you to search for them based on the fact that they are content. How you do that, I don't know.

Also, installing Adobe Reader will add thumbnailing and a preview handler for PDFs in Explorer. I just installed it in a VM a minute or two ago and it worked fine. Just to show how well VM integration works: It even changed the PDF association on my host OS to use the VM's installation of Adobe Reader because I had integration features turned on. I was not expecting that.

Microsoft's approach to supporting file types within Explorer has always irked me because not everyone is going to use the expected first party application. The are a number of fully acceptable third party alternatives to these applications and these decisions diminish the experience for the users of these applications. To get some previews (docx, xlsx, pdf) you need to install very specific software (Office, Reader) to get previews and Office will even ask you to toil around with re-saving all your doc files with a setting clicked if you want thumbnails. Photoshop? CS3 and CS4 will do neither thumbnail or preview in Explorer though the plugins exist to get these features online. That said, many plugins are of usually slow or unstable. Maybe asking for out-of-the-box support for previewing some of these formats (no excuse for docx) is much but there should be some better way to get thumbnails and previews in Explorer. And, in all honesty, previewing through a pane locked to the right edge of Explorer sucks. Whoever thought that would be a good idea in Vista needs to be fired.

While I generally much prefer Windows for everything that involves doing anything, I've found OSX's thumbnailing and it's Preview application are superior in every way to what we get on the Windows side these days.

*According to some page I found on the internet.
http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en/windowsdesktopsearchhelp/thread/ce8db1a1-872e-4b11-9274-7c157d2c431f

ChrisGonzales:
Back under the bridge, you racist troll.

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Thu, 11 Jun 2009 00:45:21 Z

Open the eventviewer. Drill to Application, for example. Select an event - a nice vivid bar appears to highlight the event. Doubleclick the event to bring up the event propertes. The blue bar disappears. As you use up/down arrows to navigate through the list, there is no bar to indicate which event in the list you are viewing. In previous versions of Windows, the bar turned a light gray, so it's either so light now it cannot be seen, or the highlighting is gone. You can notice a very slight discoloration of the icon beside the text in the Type field for the selected item.

I like the way you wrote this, because it was easy to follow the instructions.
Double-clicking on an event made a new window with just that event in it. In The original window, which is no longer the selected one, you are right, the scroll bar turns very light gray. However to scroll to a different event I clicked on the original window and it turned back to blue.
Plus, the original window has a "preview section"(whatever) built-in, so I can scroll in bright blue all day, never leaving the original window.
But (Because I never do this) It used to be easy do change stuff in menus, title and scroll bars. It might still be easy, if I could find it.

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Thu, 11 Jun 2009 01:30:30 Z

Chitbill:
While an "Attributes" property exists, it's not oriented around this. Unfortunately, there is no way to search for xml tags explicitly at default settings, but assigning the plain text filter to XML should* allow you to search for them based on the fact that they are content. How you do that, I don't know.

Also, installing Adobe Reader will add thumbnailing and a preview handler for PDFs in Explorer. I just installed it in a VM a minute or two ago and it worked fine. Just to show how well VM integration works: It even changed the PDF association on my host OS to use the VM's installation of Adobe Reader because I had integration features turned on. I was not expecting that.

Microsoft's approach to supporting file types within Explorer has always irked me because not everyone is going to use the expected first party application. The are a number of fully acceptable third party alternatives to these applications and these decisions diminish the experience for the users of these applications. To get some previews (docx, xlsx, pdf) you need to install very specific software (Office, Reader) to get previews and Office will even ask you to toil around with re-saving all your doc files with a setting clicked if you want thumbnails. Photoshop? CS3 and CS4 will do neither thumbnail or preview in Explorer though the plugins exist to get these features online. That said, many plugins are of usually slow or unstable. Maybe asking for out-of-the-box support for previewing some of these formats (no excuse for docx) is much but there should be some better way to get thumbnails and previews in Explorer. And, in all honesty, previewing through a pane locked to the right edge of Explorer sucks. Whoever thought that would be a good idea in Vista needs to be fired.

While I generally much prefer Windows for everything that involves doing anything, I've found OSX's thumbnailing and it's Preview application are superior in every way to what we get on the Windows side these days.

*According to some page I found on the internet.
http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en/windowsdesktopsearchhelp/thread/ce8db1a1-872e-4b11-9274-7c157d2c431f

ChrisGonzales:
Back under the bridge, you racist troll.

Thanks for all the tips an information.
No joy yet on pdf previews.
It's late for me but I'll sleep on the acrobat preview thing. I read on the internet it works for some, not others.

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Thu, 11 Jun 2009 02:43:04 Z

Desktop transparency bug:
Put two overlapping images on the desktop and Windows will be unable to correctly render the shadow. What will happen instead is that the Desktop will be rendered instead of the shadow/alpha channel and the underlying image.

Windows Media Player 12 bug:
Open Windows Media Player, start playing a track then enter Now Playing mode. ALT+Tab through you applications and past WMP. Leave ALT+Tab idled over an application that is not WMP then mouse over the area WMP's frame should be, the shadow should appear.

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Thu, 11 Jun 2009 04:44:13 Z

I have been noticing a lot more Blue Screens the RC. I had none with the Beta and have had about 6-7 with the RC, what happened I thought the RC was an improvement.

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Thu, 11 Jun 2009 04:45:46 Z

I have been noticing a lot more Blue Screens the RC. I had none with the Beta and have had about 6-7 with the RC, what happened I thought the RC was an improvement.

that's a problem with your system. what are your specs?

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Thu, 11 Jun 2009 05:10:48 Z

HP Pavilion DV9700
2.4 GHz Dual Coar AMD, 3 GB RAM, Nvidia GeForce 8400, 320 GB Hard Drive

I don't see how that is a problem with my system, it should be fully capable of handling the RC. I mean I had the Beta for 3 months and in 4 weeks I have had over 5 Blue Screens, something seems wrong here.

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Thu, 11 Jun 2009 07:14:24 Z

How do I remove "Do you trust this printer dialogue"?

How can I pin batchfiles to taskbar?

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Thu, 11 Jun 2009 09:20:42 Z

BUG (others have confirmed the same problem) - Explorer.exe can be crashed simply by using the start menu in a certain way (I found it by accident while using the cursor keys)

Hello.

I was asked to copy this here since a number of other people can reproduce the same problem.

Basically I can crash explorer.exe (on my 64bit Windows 7 Build 7100 install) every time through some sort of problem with the Start Menu.

It's taken a while to replicate it reliably. Sorry if my terminology isn't right.

1) Press the Windows Key to open the start menu.

2) Make sure the mouse pointer is inside the thin blue strip at the top of the start menu, i.e. the frame.

3) Navigate to a menu entry which features a right hand sub menu (like Notepad and it's recent documents OR Getting Started and it's Tasks) using the cursor keys.

4) Navigate to the sub menu by using the right hand cursor key.

5) Move the mouse slightly to the left or right to ensure that none of the items in the sub menu are highlighted. Sometimes the submenu opens out like this without having to move the mouse.

6) Press the left cursor key to return to the previous part of the start menu. You'll hopefully notice that the item you'd expect to be highlighted (i.e. the one you moved right from) is not highlighted at all.

7) Press a left or right cursor key once more and explorer.exe hangs. Well.... it does for me. You should see the flashing caret freeze within the 'Search programs and files' box.

8) Attempts to click on the start menu/Windows icon result in the Explorer.exe has crashed, restart/close/wait message appearing.

I apologise if this is in the wrong place.

Cheers!!

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Thu, 11 Jun 2009 09:36:48 Z

repMonk -

Wow... That's a whopper all right... And no, this is as good as any place for you to post this bug.

And it's not only the 64 bit version, but the 32 bit one as well that's vulnerable to this issue.

Good catch!

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Thu, 11 Jun 2009 11:50:54 Z

7.) Click on the Configure button just below the box with the drives.
8.) You should now see a slider bar near the bottom of the dialog box.
9.) Adjust to your heart's content.

Btw, the default space allocated for System Restore is 5%...

Hmm, I will check again. I just don't see an Configure button there. ( I know in XP it was, but in Vista is not and in 7 I have same like in Vista... There is a button there but is not Configure, anyway I got that using Properties, not Control Panel, so maybe using CP will ofer me an other windows... )

For the Btw - what can I say ? Houston we have a problem ? After unchecking the System Restore from C:\ I got 15 Gb free...

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Thu, 11 Jun 2009 12:02:38 Z

Cristi -

The dialog box I speak of looks like this and the resulting dialog that pops up when you click the Configure button should look something like this.

My bad... You want to click on the SYSTEM icon in Control Panel - I apparently was clear as mud in my previous instructions.

Unchecking System Restore would unlock the full amount of the reserved space. Even if you have NO restore points saved, it will still take up whatever the maximum allowed space is set to.

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Thu, 11 Jun 2009 13:02:35 Z

In Windows 7 RC 64 bit a repair disk allows a user to peruse a domain for backup images but does not provide the capability to peruse a workgroup for backup images.

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Thu, 11 Jun 2009 15:31:51 Z

Before I started trying Windows 7 used Ubuntu jaunty. One of the really nice things was the ability to right click on an open window and ' Keep window on top'. I used this a lot for research purposes for instance if I were using Google to search an answer, I could lock my research project on top to refer too whilst Google'ing on another, I know that i can drag and shrink windows to the side and this works unless you catch it.
But the ability t have a whole window open with a smaller floating above is far more useful.
Can it be added?
Again the Linux option of having several "desktops" open at once is again really useful, another addition?

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Thu, 11 Jun 2009 15:34:21 Z

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Thu, 11 Jun 2009 16:23:42 Z

Yes, i agree with you.

At "windows colour" menu, even with "stale", max colour intensity, transparency disabled, mininum brightness, it is still hard to recognise.

if u use "never combine" taskbar buttons, u will notice there's a shine at top left corner of the button, it is quit irritating, consider removing it.

the 'depressed' style for selected taskbar button was nice and elegant, and definitely easily recognizable. would love it back. (with transparency as well, of cos)

P.S: can someone teach me how to upload a screenshot on this forum? thanks!

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Thu, 11 Jun 2009 16:44:57 Z

P.S: can someone teach me how to upload a screenshot on this forum? thanks!

Hi Kira

The best way to use a screenshot is to get yourself a free account on one of the websites where you can upload and store images for sharing. I use the free http://photobucket.com service.

You can upload a screenshot there, copy the direct URL to that image, and paste it in your post here.

Hope this helps.

Thank You for testing Windows 7

Ronnie Vernon MVP

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Thu, 11 Jun 2009 17:57:20 Z

Hello developers,

I found a nice bug in windows 7 which i was told to bring to your attention here. It's to do with the fact that desktop icons, when they're hidden, can still be selected and opened if the desktop has focus and the arrow keys on the keyboard are used.

Steps to reproduce bug:

click background to focus desktop.
press a directional arrow on the keyboard.
a tooltip should appear after a second or two. (if not, minimise or restore a window and repeat the process)
press enter and the program will open

bug is able to be reproduced as seen here http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/w7itproui/thread/65d4575b-5a66-43cc-a82b-14af7a0a7604/

screenshot of the bug: http://img160.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=54488_windows7bug_122_736lo.jpg

Regards, :)

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Thu, 11 Jun 2009 20:04:35 Z

Playback of AVCHD (or M2TS ) files made with an Sony CX11 or Panasonic DMC-FT1 are choppy and studdering when playing back over an Xbox 360 As MC extender. In the Publuc Beta build 7000 the playback just stopped after 5 seconds. So the RC1 build 7100 is much better then the Beta butt still very disappointing. I would love to have flawless playback of any Home Made HD movie like AVCHD from the Sony or Panasonic camcorders!

Please check with the test team, my movies are 16Mbps bitrated full HD (1080i) perhaps some additional tuning needs to be performed. I'm using Windows 7 64 bit.

Regards, Tom

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Thu, 11 Jun 2009 20:05:40 Z

Perhaps to late for a feature request, DVD maker in Windows 7 b7100 should support creating DVD's from AVCHD ( M2TS ) movie files.

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Thu, 11 Jun 2009 22:03:52 Z

I got some errors in the beta to report.

One has to do with the new Windows 7 boot animation for some reason it does not work with my tc4400 tablet PC, yet it works on my HP compaq nc6400 notebook PC and when i installed it on that pc, it only showed 16MB of video RAM installed...

That goes into my 2nd issue, it seems like Windows 7 is not detecting the video RAM on my nc6400 properly. When Windows 7 was first installed on the notebook, only 16MB was first detected. then when i updated the drivers for the graphics device, i now seem to have about 700MB in shared graphics and 128MB in dedicated graphics. the weird thing is that on the HP web site, it says that the PC is only supossed to go up to 512MB in shared or dedicated graphics RAM and when i was running Windows XP i did not even have 500MB of graphics memory.

i just hope microsoft fixes these issues..... and also tells me why they are happening as well, if they can tell me why they are happening. just so you guys know i am running 32-bit versions of Windows 7 on both the nc6400 and the tc4400...

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Thu, 11 Jun 2009 22:06:25 Z

Found an oversight in the Start menu search bar. I've got mine set to search programs and control panel, but not other files and libraries. So as long as I've stuck something in the All Programs portion, it should be searchable. Well I also pinned an ordinary file to the Start menu, but it never shows up in searches even though it's right there in the Start menu. Obviously, I could just click on the file icon after I open the start menu, but sometimes it's just reflext to start typing the file name as if I'm opening any other program.

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Fri, 12 Jun 2009 00:33:13 Z

Hi developers -

here's only two points to rebuild your self-confidence among so much criticism: 1) After getting used to it, I find the new search wayyy more efficient than previous methods. Even full-indexing is done at a reasonable speed, and it works fine. 2) As I have to switch to XP regularly (didn't want to reinstall all my apps just for a RC), I've problems (well, some) to remember the ways I did the things for nearly six (?) years now. One month of trial, and Win7's ways to go just appear more familiar than the "traditional" ones. I'd not say they're better in general, some are more "innovations for innovations' sake". But those that complain Win7 would hinder their work by making simple things complicated, are surely wrong. I'm impressed how much customization is possible if you want it or need it (my first use of Control Panel was to set it back to "small icons" - "Category" is silly and only seems to simplify things but doesn't).
Don't get over-confident, however. You know the many bug reports here. You can use beta testers as beta testers, that's the deal. But don't make the same error as the gaming industry. Real users want to use a product, not beta-test it for SP1.
Cheers so far!

Mobile AMD64 3000+, VIA Apollo K8T800 chipset, 1 G RAM, ATIRadeonMobility 9700, 20x DVDRW, C:XPSP3 (55G),D:WIN7 (25G),F:DATA (250G)

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Fri, 12 Jun 2009 01:21:11 Z

See my post here for more detailed system spec: http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/w7itproperf/thread/5e1f7e54-6e41-40e2-9f77-129a700d1057
Toshiba Satellite ... It sits on my desk with the battery out <- Note this.

I couldn't get desktop background shuffle to work ... I tried either in shuffle or consecutive mode ... The background would NOT change on its own at any tested change speed (tried from 10 sec to 30 min)

Then I [edit - I thought I had unticked it, but actually I activated the on-battery suspend of rotate] ticked the 'disable slideshow when using battery' box ... and lo did the background immediately begin changing.

To further complicate and add intrigue: The reason I was examining the issue at all, is because my computer had hard frozen twice in a row ... no mouse movement, no ctrl+alt+del response at all ... just an immobile windows screen that required power switch shut down. Well, I noted that in both cases, the freeze had not happened until after the computer had been on for at least a number of minutes, and that the wallpaper had never changed, even though it was set to 30 min rotate, as per above. So I have yet to see if I encounter this hard hang again - but my nose tells me it was related to the wallpaper rotate bug.

So: 2 issues:
1) Potential freeze bug in wallpaper rotate
2) Potential no-go bug in wallpaper rotate, linked to on-battery suspend option

See also my above linked post for: Fan problems! (and is if on cue, my fan fired up as I'm typing this post. It will not stop until I shut down the computer. I am running: Firefox, on a 4GB, 2Ghz dual core AMD 64 bit. Windows Task Manager clocks CPU Usage in the range of 0-a whopping 6%. Physical memory usage is at approx. 25%. The fan is blowing cool air. For no good reason. And even though, I know, what does Windows 7 have to do with my fan speed ... this NEVER happened until I installed W7RC over Vista, and now it doesn't NOT happen. Correlation =/= causation, but that's pretty strong evidence of a link. Sorry to have hijacked my own thread. Ciao.

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Fri, 12 Jun 2009 03:13:03 Z

System Restore via Task Scheduler doesn't work.

Sheduled task is set to create a system restore point at a designated time.
System Restore Point at Startup is disabled.
Task History is enabled.
The system log and the history show that the SR task was initiated at the designated time and finished with no error.

There is no new Restore Point.

The same task works correctly on Vista, and produces a Restore Point.

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Fri, 12 Jun 2009 04:01:09 Z

Copied from another post of mine:
<copypasta>

The search box in Windows 7 will allow you to search for anything, not just using the visible options. Below are how it distinguishes between queries:

Moonshine
This will return any file that has "Moonshine" in the file name, metadata, or contents.

Name:Moonshine
If you only want files with "Moonshine" in the name.

Content:Moonshine
To search exclusively for files with "Moonshine" in the contents.

Other examples:
Datecreated:thisweek
Author:Pompadour
Tag:Windows
Extension:zip (ext:zip works, too!)

</copypasta>

I have a docx file with the word "forklift" in it, all I need to do to find it (based on the fact this word is in the content) is type "forklift" into the search box in the top-right of Explorer. Search is still as powerful as ever, there just seems to be no UI for some obscure reason.

----

» Clicking on WMP12's media controls make the main application window inactive.
» CTRL+LMB doesn't open links in a new window as it should in the Control Panel.
» Copy shouldn't bother users prompting to overwrite system files (desktop.ini, thumbs.db, if present).
» Links cannot be pinned to IE8 x64.
» When Explorer is set to single-click some old open/save dialogs have a delay between a click and its response that isn't
» present in Explorer anymore.

» How IE8's jumplist determines which window to open a link in is confusing. It's not always the newest window or not the last used. At very least when the Taskbar is showing multiple windows, each should act independent.

Wow, thanks for this. Wouldn't this be something that was great to put in the help menu. I have done a search of "help" for all the search options in Vista and never found any of this information.

Thanks Again.

Cheers,
Lara

lforbes

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Fri, 12 Jun 2009 04:15:25 Z

Hi! I only have two feedbacks, one refers to my laptop and the other to my flashdrive. After installing Windows 7 RC, there were instances that when I open my laptop, the OS seems to automatically conduct a CHKDSK, eventhough I have not moved the laptop from one place to another...it is my understanding that this could be new feature in Windows 7 RC wherein it checks the physical status of the laptop's harddrive every time that laptop is moved...but in my case, the Windows 7 RC most of the time opens to "checking" mode or environment eventhough I've never budged my laptop after previously using it.

My second feedback refers to my 16Gb flashdrive...there were at least 10 instances since installing Windows 7 RC wherein the OS opens to "scanning" (and recovering bad sectors) mode when I use the flashdrive despite the fact that I have been properly conducting flashdrive removal process by leftclicking on the icon at the taskbar.

Other than these two 'quirks,' I claimed that Windows 7 RC is faster and a much improved version of the Vista...I am not fond of giving feedbacks but I am glad to be of assistance to the Windows Team anyway I can. God bless us all!

Jerome Cubelo
SLSO I
House of Representatives Electoral Tribunal
Congress of the Philippines

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Fri, 12 Jun 2009 04:16:29 Z

Hello Crunksy,

If you'd like to report bugs you can do it here. Thanks for testing Windows 7 RC.

-Scott

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Fri, 12 Jun 2009 04:17:55 Z

I was inclined to put this into the security forum, but had a rethink that it was not a matter of security, but rather of fraud.

It is well publicised on the web, that the WEI scores can be easily faked. (I can reproduce the procedure for enquirers, if allowed on this site )

In view of this, I earnestly believe the feature should excluded from Windows 7, or any future OS. Why?

I would throw out a random guess, that 80% of potential new computer buyers, take the figures they read concenrning the performance of their expected purchase, are true. There are many unscrupulous retailers in this real world, who are only to eager to exploit such custom. Many of such are technically savvy and would not hesitate to fake the WEI scores.

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Fri, 12 Jun 2009 08:46:07 Z

Cristi -

The dialog box I speak of looks like this and the resulting dialog that pops up when you click the Configure button should look something like this.

My bad... You want to click on the SYSTEM icon in Control Panel - I apparently was clear as mud in my previous instructions.

Unchecking System Restore would unlock the full amount of the reserved space. Even if you have NO restore points saved, it will still take up whatever the maximum allowed space is set to.

Found it. But is not default of 5% it seems to depend of partition size. On my 100 Gb partition installation it was 16 %, and on another computer witch a 20 Gb partition it was set to 3 %.

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Fri, 12 Jun 2009 10:34:36 Z

Wow, thanks for this. Wouldn't this be something that was great to put in the help menu. I have done a search of "help" for all the search options in Vista and never found any of this information.

Thanks Again.

Cheers,
Lara
lforbes

Since you liked that, you will really love this: Windows Search Advanced Query Syntax

Here's another link, directly from Help and Support (Vista) Tips for finding files

Helpful Hint: When viewing a Help and Support page, right-click it and choose View Source. That brings up NotePad with that page in SGML/HTML format. Find whatever link you have interest in. It will have form href="mshelp://Windows/?id=73106209-6df0-432a-8cb7-df5d8ce02ec61033 (that's exactly the "tips for finding files" above). Next, copy the id string, and form the URL http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Windows/en-US/Help/73106209-6df0-432a-8cb7-df5d8ce02ec61033.mspx. Paste that in your browser. Bookmark it. Thereafter, you only need to patch the id field. :)

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Fri, 12 Jun 2009 10:57:55 Z

Search Box really needs an Advanced Template mode.

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Fri, 12 Jun 2009 11:27:32 Z

Two bagatelles, but irritating: At system start ("Ta-daa"), shortly after a "ping". System tray, error cross: No sound available. "Bloing!" - Action center most of the time recognizes my antivirus protection, sometimes warns me there is no protection installed. More consistency, plz.

Mobile AMD64 3000+, VIA Apollo K8T800 chipset, 1 G RAM, ATIRadeonMobility 9700, 20x DVDRW, C:XPSP3 (55G),D:WIN7 (25G),F:DATA (250G)

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Fri, 12 Jun 2009 11:45:16 Z

Feature Request - Fluff/Eye Candy, I know. But, I'm loving the new wallpaper slideshow function in Windows 7. Am rediscovering some old pictures I haven't looked at in years and adding new wallpaper to the mix all the time. I'd love to see an option where I could simply select my picture/photo library location and then have some intelligence/filter options to choose what pictures automatically get added into the slideshow. i.e. All 5 Star Ratings get added, or all pictures added in the past X days. Or maybe the slideshow definination, like a playlist, is created in Windows Media and then you allow the wallpaper slideshow settings an option to siimply choose the 'playlist' created via Windows Media rather than individual files.

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Fri, 12 Jun 2009 11:58:15 Z

+1

I just replicated this behaviour. = "Windows Explorer is not responding".

Note: 64bit W7RC on AMDX2 Dual Core 64bit, Toshiba Satellite

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Fri, 12 Jun 2009 12:21:33 Z

Cristi -

The dialog box I speak of looks like this and the resulting dialog that pops up when you click the Configure button should look something like this.

My bad... You want to click on the SYSTEM icon in Control Panel - I apparently was clear as mud in my previous instructions.

Unchecking System Restore would unlock the full amount of the reserved space. Even if you have NO restore points saved, it will still take up whatever the maximum allowed space is set to.

Found it. But is not default of 5% it seems to depend of partition size. On my 100 Gb partition installation it was 16 %, and on another computer witch a 20 Gb partition it was set to 3 %.

Cristi -

You're probably right about that. My drive's an 80 GB (74 GB formatted) drive...

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Fri, 12 Jun 2009 12:25:58 Z

+1

I just replicated this behaviour. = "Windows Explorer is not responding".

Note: 64bit W7RC on AMDX2 Dual Core 64bit, Toshiba Satellite

If that's the Start Menu crash problem.... can you confirm the build number? I'm getting various people boasting about using builds later than 7100 without problems. Are Microsoft still handing out 7100?

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Fri, 12 Jun 2009 12:26:43 Z

I'd like to post again about the Networking problems in Windows 7. I thought this was limited to my laptop after waking from sleep, but that doesn't seem to be the case. This has now also happened twice on my desktop machine which is never turned off or put into sleep. Also, unlike the laptop, the desktop connects to the network through a gigabit ethernet port, not through WiFi.

The issue appears to be a problem with DNS. The network continues to work and any connections, either local or over the Internet, that have been established continue to work. But new connections or Web browsing fail to work because DNS resolution fails so Internet URLs cannot be resolved to their IPs. I never had this issue with Vista so it appears to be a bug in Windows 7, but a rather serious one since it's likely the network will fail at the least opportune moment (just ask Murphy)...

Disabling and re-enabling the ethernet adapter fixes the problem but only temporarily. And by temporariliy, I mean a few seconds before it fails again. Ultimately, I was forced to reboot the machine each time in order to fix the problem for any length of time.

A related issue, which I've not had on the desktop but have on the laptop, is when disabling the network adapter, the Explorer window is not updated correctly. In fact, in tiles view, the tile for the adapter will show disabled, but the button on the taskbar will continue to show "Disable adapter" instead of "Enable adapter". I need to manually refresh (waiting will not help) in order for the Window to display the correct information. I suspect this is more a general Explorer refresh bug as I've seen other complaints about deleted files not disappearing, etc. However, this is one place where on my laptop I see it reproducibly.

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Fri, 12 Jun 2009 14:38:48 Z

http://www.windows7taskforce.com/view/2113

[BUG] Libraries - Arrange function doesn't work.

Problem:
Libraries - Arrange by XXX function doesn't work. It's bug.
If you ever use BETA1, then you will understand this is a bug...

Solution:
fix it.

view snapshot
http://www.windows7taskforce.com/thumb/libraries_folder_bug.png/x/700

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Fri, 12 Jun 2009 14:46:43 Z

http://www.windows7taskforce.com/view/2690

[BUG] WindowsExplorer files can't free sort by user

Problem:
WindowsExplorer files can't free sort by user
This is a Bug, Because in Vista/XP you acn free sort.

Solution:
fix free sort by user.

view snapshot:
http://www.windows7taskforce.com/thumb/Bug_WindowsExplorer_cant_free_sort.png/x/560

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Fri, 12 Jun 2009 14:55:27 Z

[BUG] keep WindowsExplorer and IE8 button style consistency for Classic

Problem:
WindowsExplorer button very ugly.

Solution:
keep WindowsExplorer and IE8 button style consistency for Classic.

view snapshot:
http://www.windows7taskforce.com/thumb/keep_WE_and_IE8_button_consistency.png/x/560

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Fri, 12 Jun 2009 15:09:51 Z

[Suggestion] WordPad & Paint StatusBar color layout update to Ribbon style

Problem:
WordPad & Paint StatusBar color layout is win95style.
It's very disharmony.

WordPad & Paint not a WindowsExplorer, they are stand-alone application.
They are unneeded use win95style, Because Ribbon style also can used in Classic mode.
of course they are can update to Ribbon style.

Solution:
WordPad & Paint StatusBar color layout update to Ribbon style.

view shapshot:
http://www.windows7taskforce.com/thumb/WordPad_Paint_StatusBar_update_to_win7style.png/x/560

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Fri, 12 Jun 2009 15:37:28 Z

Erm i dont think you understand his point! he means have the same colour throughout the OS not go back to xp colour!

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Fri, 12 Jun 2009 16:25:44 Z

one of the nice things about the interface is the whole docking concept. Ive wanted it for years. so ive got the win7rc installed, and i thought cool ill dock this window on the left and ill dock that window next to it, but it doesn't work is you have 2 monitors.

the shared edge of the screen doesn't allow docking. its a real pain.

may i suggest making the edges of open windows dockable like winAmp.

hopefully somebody out there will listen.

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Fri, 12 Jun 2009 16:53:25 Z

Hello JiDW,

You can post any found bugs or comments on Windows 7 here.

-Scott

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Fri, 12 Jun 2009 17:09:02 Z

http://www.windows7taskforce.com/view/2266

[Suggestion] keep WindowsExplorer Navigation pane color layout consistency

Problem:
Control Panel's navigation pane color layout is light blue.
keep WindowsExplorer Navigation pane color layout consistency.
Solution:
keep WindowsExplorer Navigation pane color layout consistency.

view shapshot:
http://www.windows7taskforce.com/thumb/Navigation_pane_color_layout.png/x/560

No thanks. That color is ugly enough. No more please!

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Fri, 12 Jun 2009 17:09:41 Z

[Suggestion] WordPad & Paint StatusBar color layout update to Ribbon style

Problem:
WordPad & Paint StatusBar color layout is win95style.
It's very disharmony.

WordPad & Paint not a WindowsExplorer, they are stand-alone application.
They are unneeded use win95style, Because Ribbon style also can used in Classic mode.
of course they are can update to Ribbon style.
Solution:
WordPad & Paint StatusBar color layout update to Ribbon style.

view shapshot:
http://www.windows7taskforce.com/thumb/WordPad_Paint_StatusBar_update_to_win7style.png/x/560

That I'll agree with. Please make it happen

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Fri, 12 Jun 2009 18:19:25 Z

Wow, thanks for this. Wouldn't this be something that was great to put in the help menu. I have done a search of "help" for all the search options in Vista and never found any of this information.

Thanks Again.

Cheers,
Lara
lforbes

Since you liked that, you will really love this: Windows Search Advanced Query Syntax

Here's another link, directly from Help and Support (Vista) Tips for finding files

Helpful Hint: When viewing a Help and Support page, right-click it and choose View Source. That brings up NotePad with that page in SGML/HTML format. Find whatever link you have interest in. It will have form href="mshelp://Windows/?id=73106209-6df0-432a-8cb7-df5d8ce02ec61033 (that's exactly the "tips for finding files" above). Next, copy the id string, and form the URL http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Windows/en-US/Help/73106209-6df0-432a-8cb7-df5d8ce02ec61033.mspx. Paste that in your browser. Bookmark it. Thereafter, you only need to patch the id field. :)

Thanks for the tips and the page. I am usually quite thorough with the web searches but I didn't find this one. I will post it on my website. Thanks for the tips on the Windows Help. Mine is broken right now on Vista since I installed IE 8. All the images are red X and the formatting is gone. I haven't had a chance to troubleshoot yet. It is a Dell Laptop though and Dell has taken over the Help with their format which is probably not IE 8 comptable. Cheers, Lara

lforbes

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Fri, 12 Jun 2009 18:46:25 Z

Thanks for the tips and the page. I am usually quite thorough with the web searches but I didn't find this one. I will post it on my website. Thanks for the tips on the Windows Help. Mine is broken right now on Vista since I installed IE 8. All the images are red X and the formatting is gone. I haven't had a chance to troubleshoot yet. It is a Dell Laptop though and Dell has taken over the Help with their format which is probably not IE 8 comptable.

Cheers, Lara
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
lforbes

It took me 2 years to find that! :))

I figured I owed you - your tips have been great. Thanks! And btw, I likewise am having real trouble with IE8 + VistaSP2. Just now, I had to reply to Anthony_Mann's post and hand encode your blockquote here. Guess I'll be re-installing IE7 soon. :(

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Fri, 12 Jun 2009 19:07:17 Z

I've only ran into a few incredibly minor issues with Windows 7.

1. Comodo firewall won't install. some issue with the registry i believe (i'd give more information but i believe this is a known issue). i also tried AVG internet security but the firewall wouldn't allow Homegroup by default and i'm really bad at setting up 'firewall rules', so just going with the Windows Firewall for now.

2. ALL Windows live apps and websites have a incredibly difficult time logging in. their all eventually able to just by attempting to sign in about 5 to 10 times. this could easily be a firewall issue but i tried it with the firewall turned off (only using the default Windows Firewall anyway) and that didn't help at all. could easily be problems with my router also, my router has a built in firewall which i have turned off as well. could also be a issue with the servers, i would guess that the MS servers have been pretty busy lately but it's been about a week that i've been having a lot of difficulty signing in. (i have had absolutely no problems logging in / connecting to with anything that's not MS.)

3. Logitec QuickCam: software had a hard time installing, just kept telling me that the OS isn't supported, eventually it stopped saying that and let me install it (i didn't use any compatability options, it just let me install it for some reason after about 5 tries), the device is working fine but i had to remove the software entries from starting with windows while running in safe mode or my desktop would crash at login, it would keep trying to start again and just keep crashing. but the device works fine, so i'm assuming that once logitec releases software for 7 it'll work fine (if they do). of corse, i really dont care if they do release software compatible with windows 7, i would still disable it because it's useless so there's no reason to have it running in the background.

4. Lexmark x3400 software: only issues are: after using the Lexmark All-In-One Center to scan an image it says The Program Has Stopped Working. Does not affect the image or functionality at all, just have to click the box that says: Close the program. however, scanning by going to Start > Devices. then right clicking the printer and chosing Start Scan works fine. a suggestion from me would be to put the program that uses in a more accessable place... i dont forsee many end users thinking of trying that.

5. IF a security dialog comes up (UAC or a Firewall one, etc...) durring the time a full screen app (game or other) is loading but after it takes control of the screen (?) meaning the screen went black and it's changing the resolution, the computer will just hang there and do nothing. it doesn't go back to desktop so you can click allow and it doesn't go to the game.... just sits there as a black screen and alt+tab or ctrl+alt+del does not work. the only ways around this that i have found are: disable UAC, give the program permissions to comm through any firewall you have installed before loading the program, give the program permission to change the windows registry before loading it (in Spybot S&D / Antivirus apps sometimes monitor this as well).

I think that covers all the issues i've had.... their all pretty simple issues really. everything else has worked fine. i've tried the remote desktop connection, which was actually really fun. used Quick Connect to do it 'cuz i'm really not the best with setting that stuff up. iTunes, Halo: Combat Evolved, Fable, World of Warcraft, The Witcher, FRAPS, Ventrilo (Server and Client), Skype, QuickTime, GIMP 2, Avast! Antivirus, AVG Antivirus, Zune, Spybot S&D, Adobe Reader, Open Office, MS Office, Homegroup are all working fine, no errors. ALL of the games are even running far better than in Vista. for example, in World of Warcraft on Vista i normally have a framerate around 25, in 7 i get an average of 60 (yes, same exact machine and same settings). that is obviousely a huge improvement. also, FRAPS doesn't lower my frame rate as drastically as it does in Vista. in Vista, that average of 25 goes down to 15 when recording and constantly drops to about 5. in 7 it goes from 60 to 55 and remains pretty stable at about 55.

Overall i'd have to say MS has done an absolutely brilliant job with Windows 7, I personally can't wait for it to come out. MS can definetly expect me to buy 3 coppies of the OS the first day it's out (i've been testing it on 3 completely different PC's that have nothing in common with the same issues on each and no other issues).

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Fri, 12 Jun 2009 19:50:37 Z

Copied from another post of mine:
<copypasta>

The search box in Windows 7 will allow you to search for anything, not just using the visible options. Below are how it distinguishes between queries:

Moonshine
This will return any file that has "Moonshine" in the file name, metadata, or contents.

Name:Moonshine
If you only want files with "Moonshine" in the name.

Content:Moonshine
To search exclusively for files with "Moonshine" in the contents.

Other examples:
Datecreated:thisweek
Author:Pompadour
Tag:Windows
Extension:zip (ext:zip works, too!)

</copypasta>

I have a docx file with the word "forklift" in it, all I need to do to find it (based on the fact this word is in the content) is type "forklift" into the search box in the top-right of Explorer. Search is still as powerful as ever, there just seems to be no UI for some obscure reason.

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» Clicking on WMP12's media controls make the main application window inactive.
» CTRL+LMB doesn't open links in a new window as it should in the Control Panel.
» Copy shouldn't bother users prompting to overwrite system files (desktop.ini, thumbs.db, if present).
» Links cannot be pinned to IE8 x64.
» When Explorer is set to single-click some old open/save dialogs have a delay between a click and its response that isn't
» present in Explorer anymore.

» How IE8's jumplist determines which window to open a link in is confusing. It's not always the newest window or not the last used. At very least when the Taskbar is showing multiple windows, each should act independent.

Thanks, I really don't knew it.

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Fri, 12 Jun 2009 20:06:54 Z

There is an issue with Windows 7 and any function that alters the power settings automatically, ie sleep, hibernate, etc. Until that issue is resolved, it is best to avoid such states.

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Fri, 12 Jun 2009 20:29:51 Z

I'm not sure if this would really count as a bug in Windows 7 or not but i am going to post it anyways because i do not think this kind of issue should not be happening.

you guys know how Windows has a paging file for if your system does not have enough system RAM. well, i got an error message saying that my virtual machine that i am using for XP mode did not have a big enough paging file, so it started to increase it. i never got this issue in virtual machine before. infact, i never got this issue in vista. i actually have not gotten this issue since 2002.

My question is, how does a virtual machine run low on virtial RAM when it is running on 1024MB of system RAM at the time?

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Fri, 12 Jun 2009 21:22:36 Z

This might have been reported before. But it doesnt hurt to report it over and over again till it is noticed!

Issue: Outlook 2007 is getting to icons. One on the taskbar and one in the system tray. Please fix it :-)

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Fri, 12 Jun 2009 21:52:27 Z

This might have been reported before. But it doesnt hurt to report it over and over again till it is noticed!
Issue: Outlook 2007 is getting to icons. One on the taskbar and one in the system tray. Please fix it :-)

I like how its in oth places, but now that we have Windows 7 and office 2007 SP2, they should have removed the new mail notification for when people are using outlook under Windows 2007. also outlook 2007 does not need a start menu short-cut. in my opinion there should be an option to make the system tray icon disapear if users dislike it. and by the way, there is an option to hide the application when minimized, so that it just hides in the system tray...

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Fri, 12 Jun 2009 22:24:46 Z

Microsoft's attempts to make something more stable and more accurate than it's precessor are in vague: they'll never advance if they don't get their job seriously, while Macintosh is advancing now more than ever.

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Sat, 13 Jun 2009 02:37:58 Z

The best place to post about this so the developers hear about it would be the Windows 7 RC comments thread.

-Nick

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Sat, 13 Jun 2009 03:01:13 Z

Does it do this for all programs or just a few? This is not the way it should be.

-Nick

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Sat, 13 Jun 2009 05:16:11 Z

I have an identical issue. I've been placing my taskbar on top for many years and was enlightened to see MS added as a taskbar option. You always had the ability to unlock the taskbar and drag it where you wanted, but now it's a selectable feature. However as I arrange things on my taskbar like a desktop toolbar, an address toolbar, I need to rearrange them to make them all fit nice. As soon as I extend the taskbar down another increment or more it keeps the transparency from where the taskbar once was regarless of what size I make the taskbar. It appears to only happen when you select the taskbar on top. and oddly enough, neither a reboot, resolution change, wallpaper change or logoff fixes the problem. I have to place my taskbar back on the bottom because as soon as I select the top position the residual shadow transparency is visible from my original repositioning of the taskbar.

Mark

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Sat, 13 Jun 2009 05:19:37 Z

yeah and it looks terrible, like a novice screen with a bunch of icons on it.

Mark

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Sat, 13 Jun 2009 05:50:38 Z

Make sure your user accounts are not a member of the Domain Guests group. This is what is causing the TEMP profile to be created. Remove your account from that domain group and log in again. It will then create a permanant profile for you.

Mark

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Sat, 13 Jun 2009 05:56:33 Z

The Work, Home, Public network options are primarily for setting local policy rules that affect how your connecting from different places. For example you might have relaxed firewall settings at home or your office that is probably connected via a hardware firewall, but you wouldn't want such relaxed settings at say a wi-fi hotspot. It allows Windows to remember what your connecting to when you've established any new network connection. It's actually a pretty good idea.

Mark

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Sat, 13 Jun 2009 06:21:39 Z

Well I hate to say it but this forum is full of old equipment success stories with installing RC1. I myself have RC1 installed on several computers and notebooks that are 2-5 years old and other than the few issues I've reported everything works great.

Mark

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Sat, 13 Jun 2009 09:03:34 Z

Mark -

what you said last (working fine on older hardware), is the keypoint for Win7's commercial success. There is quite a bunch of tech enthusiasts asking "How will my newest games run?" (on their 8core, 156 G RAM... machines with DX 16 video cards), but it's money what counts. And if the last poll of leading CIO's is right (recently quoted on ZDNET or elsewhere), most of the companies see no real reasons to change their old NT-oriented hardware during the next 10 (!) years, are considering changing from Win2000 to Win7 not sooner than 2011, etc. That's the sector where Vista hadn't any impact, Win7 may re-roll the dice, and Win8 will have a chance if 7 does a good job in managing improved speed and backward hw/sw compatibility.

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Sat, 13 Jun 2009 10:17:45 Z

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in "quick launck\user pinned\star menu"

when added directly in this folder one shortcut or a sub-folder containing shortcuts that it does not appear.

it does when sliding it ON the menu

_________

this folder is not available for "all users".

what is stupid in company added it allows shortcuts for all users in a simple manner in a place apart from the menu. Practice for the most essential

_________

When should better because of bug ... is drag a folder in this area, it does not appear the little arrow on the right side of this one for easy access to its content.

which once again stupid and a waste of time (you must first click of the shortcut, which opens the file or are of other shortcuts.

in short, this area does not behave like the internet shortcuts such

_________

there are rumors saying that internet explorer 8 is not provided (at least installable version) in the French edition of windows.

I find it outrageous.
you pay more in france windows licenses that many other countries including the United States, but in addition you delete functions.

what about the speech that I think will still not be "franch voice"

and always an English voice ... outrageous

. (you must believe that the full box version vista should not be expensive)

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Sat, 13 Jun 2009 10:56:42 Z

@MagiX-FX,

as for your "rumours": These aren't rumours. Windows 7 will be delivered (as "Windows 7 E") in all countries of the EU, adding Switzerland and Croatia, without IE8 preinstalled. This goes for retail boxes, OEM's might have a chance to decide what sort of "bundling" they include in their system. This is result of a legal case with EU Antitrust supervisors, promoted mainly by the manufacturers of Opera, a competing browser. As the case is still pending and EU seems not to be content with MS's decisions (their own idea is integrating all competing browsers into a built-in Windows selection), things may change again until the public release of Windows 7.

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Sat, 13 Jun 2009 11:09:58 Z

Windows Media Player 12 doesn't seem to have the ability to appear with controls in the taskbar like WMP 11 can. In Windows XP, you can right-click on the taskbar and choose "Toolbars", "Windows Media Player" and then whenever you minimize the Windows Media Player, it appears as a slim bar with controls such as play, ffwd, rewind, etc. Why was this removed from WMP 12?

     Also, when you right-click on an MP3 file in Windows XP, you can see and edit many pieces of ID3 tag information, including "Lyrics". If lyrics are included in the MP3 tag information, they can also be displayed in Windows Media Player 11 while a song is playing. Or, while you are in "Library" mode in WMP 11, you can right-click on a song and choose the "Advanced Tag Editor", which not only includes the ablity to add/edit lyrics, but even include synchronized lyrics! Why are these features removed from Windows 7 and WMP 12? I'm sorry, but after using Windows 7 RC and WMP 12, I still prefer Windows XP and WMP 11.

     I ended up using an alternative media player in Windows 7 RC (The KMPlayer, also SMPlayer is great) because WMP 12 doesn't offer any advantages (for me) over any other media player when the lyrics and taskbar features are removed. Overall, from what I've experienced with Windows 7 and Windows Media Player 12, I am not very excited about buying a new laptop with Windows 7 on it. I am still going to buy a new laptop and there's no way I'm going to buy one with Windows Vista, but I would much rather have a newer, improved version of Windows XP to run on it, instead of Windows 7, which is just a newer, improved version of Windows Vista.

     Unfortunately, I have to say that Windows Media Player 12 is a step backward, with one exception. It's really great that we will be able to play .mov, .aac, Xvid and DivX files with Windows Media Player, finally! (although other free media players have been doing that for a while)

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Sat, 13 Jun 2009 13:02:21 Z

I have the same problem. This been sens first Windows 7 release i think. Very bad that MS haven't fixed it yet.

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Sat, 13 Jun 2009 16:24:48 Z

I'd recommend posting this issue to the comments thread , where it has a better chance of being considered and altered by the dev team.

-Alex

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Sat, 13 Jun 2009 16:47:12 Z

Minor thing: My laptop when fully charged is reported by Win7 as 98% or 99% ("Not charging") rather than 100%.

Less Minor thing: there's still an issue in Windows Explorer where hovering the mouse over a folder does not bring up the popup with the details of that folder. You need to highlight some other file or folder, wait for the popup, then go back to highlighting the original folder you were interested to get the popup to come up.

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Sat, 13 Jun 2009 17:10:14 Z

A very non technical rambling of Windows 7 Release candidate 1 (RC1) first impression user experience.

I decided to run the Windows 7 64 bit RC1 (and the 32 bit for the sake of it) versions of the developing Operating system, thinking that if there were any hardware/software issues with the 64 bit version I could work through them and still use the 32 bit version in the mean time, in retrospect I needn't have installed the 32 bit OS as I have had virtually no issues with the 64 bit OS.

The (clean/custom) installation took just over an hour for both, just over 1/2 hour each, everything that Vista complained about, 7 fixed with wizards and first update within minuets, including 64 bit drivers for most hardware. Even the old scanner that was supposed to be obsolete works, shame really, now I have no excuse to get a new one.

Putting Photoshop/other progs etc back took the most time, slick OS, boots quicker than Vista and XP, even when loaded with all the usual start-up applications.

So dose a 64 bit OS really make a difference?

At present there are very few 64 bit programs available, there are however a few programs optimised for 64 bit, Photoshop CS3 and later to name an important one if you are a photographer/image editor.

PS with all used plug-in's etc installed, load on XP 32 bit 10-12 seconds, Vista 32 bit about the same, 7 marginally faster.

Vista 64 bit approx 6-8 seconds

7 64 bit, 2-3 seconds.

Similar image load time increases too, a bonus if you are shuffling large files around.

Same machine, moderately specified dual core AMD 64 5000+ MSI K9 NeoF AM2 system with 4 GB RAM, Gforce 9600 SB X-Fi extreme audio.

A lot of Windows Vista niggles seem to have been addressed and a few new tweaks to the GUI etc, except for the absence of the rather handy right click, "edit with Photoshop" (or whatever you chose) file attribute advanced edit feature that was available in XP, which can be worked around with a fairly simple registry key edit, but why remove that feature?

I suspect that my usage is fairly basic compared to some others, mostly photo editing and 2D apps.

For me everything has been a breeze, no crashes, nothing that refused to work after obtaining the correct drivers.

By no means a power user.

Pretty easy to customise to my liking in a short time.

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Sat, 13 Jun 2009 17:44:58 Z

Minor thing: My laptop when fully charged is reported by Win7 as 98% or 99% ("Not charging") rather than 100%.

Less Minor thing: there's still an issue in Windows Explorer where hovering the mouse over a folder does not bring up the popup with the details of that folder. You need to highlight some other file or folder, wait for the popup, then go back to highlighting the original folder you were interested to get the popup to come up.

this happens to me at times so i unplug my notebook and wait untill my notebook gets bak to a charge of 90% and then plug it back it it will properly charge. of course then this issue of the battery not mettering properly happened to me under vista, not Windows 7....

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Sat, 13 Jun 2009 18:02:16 Z

this is just a small issue but i created a standard account for my friend and whenever they try to access the internet they get a prompt asking them for an admintrator password. i would expect that for a few other actions, like adding for removing programs, but internet access? thats just weird. microsoft needs to fix this. i thought standard users had the ability to access the internet without needing permission from an admintrator. microsoft better fix this issue.

its either that, or my friend is doing something wrong, because i know i wasn't when i setup the account for him. Windows XP was so simple. it never gave me these types of issues....

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Sat, 13 Jun 2009 19:48:37 Z

Will windows 7 remain sketchy. lines on taskbar and windows media player and logon screen. if logon screen could have a Media Center look, it will be nice. especially the animated background and clean lines and magnifying glass

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Sat, 13 Jun 2009 20:11:01 Z

Simon -

That's funny.... "Now I don't have an excuse to get a new one." Most people would be howling like a banshee if they had to abandon their old antique hardware because there weren't any new drivers.

But seriously... If you've got popular image formats - jpg, png, gif, etc... - associated with Photoshop, then the OPEN option on the right click menu would likely open the file in Photoshop anyway. Windows 7 is about removing the clutter, getting rid of bloat, reducing the kludge. If the standard "OPEN" option does the job, do you really need another redundant entry on the right-click menu?

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Sat, 13 Jun 2009 20:54:27 Z

I have several folders joined in several libraries (excellent idea, Microsoft!)
Many of these folders cover large numbers of subfolders.
To facilitate getting to the desired subfolder, I press the first letter of decired folder (example: "S"). This brings me towards the part of files with first letter "S".
But the start of the list of fils with "S" starts in a somewhat random place in the windows - somewhere in the middle of the list.
I would perfer that - now, that I am serching for subfolders with the first letter "S" - the list of these files would start at top of the window to show a maximum number of "S-Files" in the list. I would not be interested in seeing ny "R-Files".
Can this be fixed or tweaked??

Ambidextrous installed Windows 7 Release Candidate on an HP Pavilion dv1000 Laptop with a Centrino 1.86 GB CPU and 2 GB RAM.

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Sat, 13 Jun 2009 20:54:51 Z

Thanks for your input.

Yes I understand the reasoning, its just a minor niggle really, previously you could have open in one program, say picture viewer to quickly skip through an image folder (like a virtual lightbox), more efficient than viewing multiple files in Photoshop and when you need one in Photoshop, right click/edit, as it is now open and edit default to whatever your default program is, you can of course use "open with" but it adds another step.

OK I know you're maybe going to say, well use bridge, problem solved and you would be right, though for simplicity I usually have bridge looking in my default image drive, so going to another drive/directory also adds another step, yeh OK, I'm being picky, like I say, its a minor niggle.

On the whole my Win 7 experience has been very good - excellent, a, loving the extra bandwidth of 64 bit, vast improvement on Vista in my opinion and that's the main thing for me.

Glad I amused you with my scanner quip :D

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Sat, 13 Jun 2009 22:05:15 Z

Another thing, a bit more than a trifle: Maybe it's only a RC issue where the "help" support by the system (offline) is meager anyway, but the final should be aware of this. It would really make sense to offer little pop-up explications what selectable options do (or provide the "?" when checking/unchecking boxes). Sometimes there is such an "inmediate help", sometimes not. Today, looking at the "ReadyBoost" options for my flash drive, I find "Dedicate this drive to ReadyBoost" (result: 7565 out of 8000 MB used for ReadyBoost) or "Use this device" (result: 7481 out of 8000 MB used for ReadyBoost). I guess there will be some difference between the choices, but I'm no developer and can't get any reasonable idea what this difference may be. Now tell me how I should select the right one. By trial-and-error?

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Sat, 13 Jun 2009 23:30:37 Z

The multitouch functionality is pretty sweet, but I think it can be made better:
1- Provide an alternate start menu and alternate explorer windows which can be used by default when it detects the touch screen is being used. The current start menu is nice for keyboard and mouse access, but the icons are too small for fingers. Same with explorer windows. Basically use big icons when using touch screen and small when using mouse.
2- The resize frames around windows are too small to grab with fingers. We need an easy gesture for doing so. Also it would be nice if this gesture could be used to move the window as well.

I would also like to see a "Turn off screen" in power options as an action to occur when lid is closed.

You should officially release the multitouch app pack for all multitouch Windows 7 users. It is super impressive, and it made me feel the immediate need to buy Windows 7.

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Sun, 14 Jun 2009 00:26:12 Z

Sorry, but I would just like to make one more suggestion: In small icon viewing mode the shortcut sub-icon takes up a large amount of space on the on shortcut icons. I know this is a small thing, but it looks awful when it's presented this way; the arrow just takes up too much space from the icon. Can this please be fixed?

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Sun, 14 Jun 2009 06:24:27 Z

fastemailing,

Can you elaborate on what you mean by "lines"? It sounds to me as though you might be seeing some video corruption.

-Alex

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Sun, 14 Jun 2009 09:56:09 Z

I would like to see the option to autorun a program from a portable hard drive return. I don't think the program should instantly run, but instead show the option to, just as it did in windows vista (and previous versions of windows). I understand this represents a possible security risk, but many people are using "portable" applications these days that run off usb hard drives, and auto-run a menu program to organise these portable apps. I know people for whom disabling this feature will become quite a problem when Windows 7 becomes widespread.

As I said, I understand this represents a security risk, but this is why I propose the following functionality:
What SHOULD happen, as a response to potential threats, is simply disabling the "application on the device" autorun option by default, then including an advanced option to re-enable it which requires administrator privlidges, and gives a warning about not being a recommended action due to potential security risk. Just like UAC, automatic updates and the security centre. Disabling any of these is a security risk, but is possible anyway. It should be up to the end user to decide if they want to take that risk.

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Sun, 14 Jun 2009 11:35:42 Z

Windows 7 performing like XP, perhaps a little quicker, not had any crashes yet. Been using Word and Excel, Cakewalk Sonar 8 PE, which is vista compatibile, works fine with PreSonus Inspire 1394 audio interface and vista driver. This interface does not like certain firewire chipsets NEC, Ricoh and Agere, my mobo is MSI 7250 v2 the 1394 chip is VIA so it works just how it should.

Rest of system is dual XFX NVidia graphics in sli mode Athlon 64 x2 3800+ 2.00 ghz per core 3gb ram self-build. printer HP 3210 AIO using vista driver over network.

This RC1 looks like it will be the vista it should have been in 2007 and hopefully a positive replacement for XP which has been very reliable and still worth keeping. My interest is geared towards music recording and so good interfacing and drivers for w7 is paramount.

Thats all for now.

ADAVIDA

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Sun, 14 Jun 2009 13:46:47 Z

Seeing so many people posting problems, and having not had any myself, I thought I would throw out a positive comment for the developers. Short version: Working perfectly, no problems since 6/08/2009.

Long version: I installed Windows 7 RC as a clean install 6/08/2009 on the following hardware: 3.2g P4, 2g RAM, Intel ICH6R SATA RAID, Nvidia GeForce 6600 using dual 24" displays 1920x1200 each, and the usual compliment of standard hardware and devices. I also have an HP 1220c printer. The install was fast and glitch free, and all the default drivers are working. Software includes Office 2007, Expression Studio, iTunes, Quicken, Safari 4, Firefox 3.0.1, Chrome, IE8 and various other programs. I use the machine every day, all day, and use it hard. So far I have not had any problems. Compared to the Vista Ultimate OS I replaced, its definately an improvement.

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Sun, 14 Jun 2009 14:54:13 Z

The multitouch functionality is pretty sweet, but I think it can be made better:
1- Provide an alternate start menu and alternate explorer windows which can be used by default when it detects the touch screen is being used. The current start menu is nice for keyboard and mouse access, but the icons are too small for fingers. Same with explorer windows. Basically use big icons when using touch screen and small when using mouse.
2- The resize frames around windows are too small to grab with fingers. We need an easy gesture for doing so. Also it would be nice if this gesture could be used to move the window as well.

I would also like to see a "Turn off screen" in power options as an action to occur when lid is closed.

You should officially release the multitouch app pack for all multitouch Windows 7 users. It is super impressive, and it made me feel the immediate need to buy Windows 7.

Hi RickGuy,

The issue "Turn off Screen" when close lid.
Most - if not all - laptops automatically turn off the screen when you close the lid. I personally have only seen one make that didn't comply and that had to do with deficient drivers.

Actually, in my view, the power properties have improved immensely from XP to Vista and win7. Now you can make your laptop hipernate or sleep if it is on batteries when you close the lid - Practical on the airplane when getting close to landing. And you can choose to make it do nothing when on AC power - Practical in the office when you get an unsolicited/unexpected visit and just want to close the lid for privacy.
This is something I have asked numerous developers for since XP came out, but nobody had the guts to give it a try.

So in your case I would say: Make your laptop "Do Nothing" when closing the lid and most probably you'll see that it turns off the screen.

What I want is to get back to the state where I'm asked "What to Do" when pressing the power bottom. This option seems to have been omitted in Win7.

Ambidextrous installed Windows 7 Release Candidate on an HP Pavilion dv1000 Laptop with a Centrino 1.86 GB CPU and 2 GB RAM.

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Sun, 14 Jun 2009 15:02:01 Z

Sorry, but I would just like to make one more suggestion: In small icon viewing mode the shortcut sub-icon takes up a large amount of space on the on shortcut icons. I know this is a small thing, but it looks awful when it's presented this way; the arrow just takes up too much space from the icon. Can this please be fixed?

Ambidextrous installed Windows 7 Release Candidate on an HP Pavilion dv1000 Laptop with a Centrino 1.86 GB CPU and 2 GB RAM.

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Sun, 14 Jun 2009 15:43:56 Z

I would like to see the option to autorun a program from a portable hard drive return. I don't think the program should instantly run, but instead show the option to, just as it did in windows vista (and previous versions of windows). I understand this represents a possible security risk, but many people are using "portable" applications these days that run off usb hard drives, and auto-run a menu program to organise these portable apps. I know people for whom disabling this feature will become quite a problem when Windows 7 becomes widespread.

As I said, I understand this represents a security risk, but this is why I propose the following functionality:
What SHOULD happen, as a response to potential threats, is simply disabling the "application on the device" autorun option by default, then including an advanced option to re-enable it which requires administrator privlidges, and gives a warning about not being a recommended action due to potential security risk. Just like UAC, automatic updates and the security centre. Disabling any of these is a security risk, but is possible anyway. It should be up to the end user to decide if they want to take that risk.

I do not miss the autorun a program feature from a portable hard disk or usb drive option at all. i just do not miss it because i never really used it. i heard that they were going to force this new security feature into vista, so i guess you may loose the ability to do that type of autoruns in vista as well.

however i do agree with you that there should be a way to bring the feature back, but for advanved users only. of course then this option will always be disabled by default.

this option should be in two places. first it will be in group policy, just like everything else.... then it will be an extra option in "system properties" under the "hardware" tab that will give you the UAC prompt. of course then for standard and guest users this option will be hidden or just greyed out...

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Sun, 14 Jun 2009 15:45:57 Z

I have bets 7 running on a dell mini 9 with 1 gig ram and 16 gig flash drive install went smooth all hardware and drivers installed with no problems. Runs faster than xp did.

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Sun, 14 Jun 2009 18:28:54 Z

The Windows Explorer is too slow and erratic.

Many times I can't delete a file or folder because it is "used" by who knows who, and I can only delete it after a reboot. (I'm waiting for a W7 compatible version of Unlocker :D)

The copy, move and delete functions are too slow. I installed Total Commander to copy, move or delete because I do this often and I can't loose my day waiting for Windows "discovering" and (many times) not doing the action....

I said before: it's annoying to see the bar filling avery time I open a folder. I discover a hidden thumb.db file on every image folder, but it appears not to store anything.

I said before: if you have several movies on a folder, surely many of it will show you an icon instead a thumbnail.

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Sun, 14 Jun 2009 22:04:00 Z

I really like new icons and task bar but is there a way to make the taskbar

"Never combine, hide Labels" 1+3 from options that we have now

to never combine and use Default big icons without text.

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Sun, 14 Jun 2009 22:08:17 Z

Dont think so. Best case is to use combine when full,

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Sun, 14 Jun 2009 23:07:13 Z

Comments:

1) Sometimes some gadgets take minutes to load (all others things are loaded, including others gadgets). I see this behavior with accuweather and emol gadgets. I think that this happen with gadgets that need internet to update information and the connection is not ready.
2) Resources usage: although 7 is very quick, when you had used the computers for hours, WLM, WMP, Firefox start to consume more and more memory. In Vista these processes use few memory when working many hours.
3) Few times my computer "crashed" for few seconds apparently due to the grow up of resource utilization.
See http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en/w7itproperf/thread/e89f6695-186d-4bbb-a8da-a8c999d85c55 for more details.
4) In WMP when you have music files and not all albums had a title page, WMP later will choose randomly any album title page and will repeat it for all those albums that doesn't have title page. It's annoying.
5) Bug: WMP: When you see and listen a movie file that have a good sound quality (like Dolby Surround), and later you play a simply mp3 file, the process audiodg.exe will eat at least 20% of your processor. If you close WMP and open it again, audiodg.exe only take a normal percentage of processor.
6) Please! an exclude option to add trusted programs that need UAC elevation (like Everest, HW Monitor or old programs).
7) The option to control volume andf not only play/pause/forward/backward in WMP when you use preview in task bar.
8) The possibility to put videos file as background in the desktop.

Thanks.

-Windows 7 x64 RC -MSI K9A2 Platinum BIOS V1.8 -AMD Phenom X4 9950 @2.7 -MSI HD 4850 -4 GB DDR2 Kingston @667 -Seagate 160 GB SATAII -Cooler Master Real Power Pro 550W

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Mon, 15 Jun 2009 01:18:48 Z

I don't have a question. I just wanted to report things I believe are important issues to be resolved prior to RTM as there are no longer feedback links.

Network Diagnostics

On a home network with 8 computers, network diagnostics has yet to fix anything. Reboots are always required. Please bring back the XP "repair" function. That fixed wireless connections without a reboot 98% of the time.

Multiple Monitors. Monitors lost on Shutdown. Restarts maintain monitors "most" of the time.

With Cuda and CAL, more and more people are using multiple GPUs for crunching. Some software requires the desktop be extended to a monitor real or virtual to recognize the GPU. Some motherboards have 3-7 PCI-E slots. I happen to use a P6T with 3 GTX 295s. I have 2 real monitors a 4 virtual through dummy plugs. Please revert to the XP/ XP x64 format where you could extend the desktop without a monitor or a dummy plug. It would make things so much easier!

Nvidia drivers/ Win 7 or both have trouble keeping track of multiple monitors. Frequently after a shutdown the monitors and dummies have to be unplugged and plugged back in hot. The worst thing is Win 7 64 can't remember and maintain the primary monitor position. The main monitor switches from gpu 0 to gpu 1 at least twice during this process. Since I have a real monitor on gpu 1 I am able to switch back. If this were a dummy plug, I'd be hosed. Once told what the primary monitor is Win 7 should not allow any program to change it unless agreed to through UAC. To make matters worse... Windows confusion spreads to other programs. Everest had to give me a registry hack to keep the program on the main desktop instead of landing on a dummy virtual monitor. Other programs get confused too. Perfect Disk launched on a dummy plug and was unavailable until reboot. VMware Workstation launched on the extended gpu 1 desktop and I was able to drag it back. Even Windows screen saver can't seem to remember what the primary monitor is. My screen saver has been running on the gpu 1 extended monitor all day while the primary monitor is blacked out. These problems will keep me on XP x64 if not fixed on the final version.

E-Sata drives...

I've tried 2 different e-sata drive enclosures. Neither are identified as plug and play. Prior to an Intel Matrix Storage Manager driver update, even rescanning drives would not detect them. Now I can hot plug the drive, rescan and use it. I still have to shut down to power down. There was a hot fix for Vista. I could not find one for Win 7.

Win 7 64 RC

Asus P6T

I-7 920 stock

3 X GTX 295s Multiple Monitor mode

3 X OCZ V2 30GB SSDs Raid 0

2 X 500 GB Seagate Sata IIs Raid 0 storage

12 GB GSkill DDR 3 1600

Thermaltake toughPower 1200

OCZ 700w Gamestream

If anyone could forward these suggestions to the powers that be I would be much obliged. Just and FYI. If there are already registry hacks or hot fixes for these issues that would be even better. :-) TIA.

Edit:

I just rebooted to power off my e-sata drive. Once back at my desktop MS Office 2007 got confused and opened on the extented desktop of gpu 1. Perhaps we need a right click context menu addition to instruct programs to always open on gpu 0,1,2,3,4 or 5/ Monitor 1,2,3,4,5 or 6????

I have one Win 7 machine with 2 9800GX2s, 1 real and 3 virtual monitors. (dummy plugs) It does not experience the problems and confusion the machine above does. You will need 6 monitors real or virtual to duplicate the problems I am having.

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Mon, 15 Jun 2009 03:35:27 Z

Conditions:
32-bit (not yet tested with 64-bit)
Windows Search feature is OFF (turn it off from Programs and Features in Control Panel)

Bring the start menu up, and while holding the primary mouse button down, drag it over the Shut Down (by default) button without releasing the mouse button. This will trigger a click event (as if the primary mouse button was released over it). If Windows Search feature is ON or computer not restarted after feature has been turned off, this will cause the Shut Down button to respond normally (the button animation becomes pressed only). Bug works on both a real desktop as well as on virtual desktop environments.

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Mon, 15 Jun 2009 03:37:16 Z

In my opinion, Windows 7 in and of itself is a good operating system. My biggest disappointment after using it, though, is that it feels like it is essentially just Windows Vista with a fancy new taskbar and a few less applications. Granted, there are a number of under-the-hood enhancements and it feels a bit faster and more stable than Vista, but I would have preferred a user interface that wasn't so similar to Vista. While I am a fan of the new taskbar, I'm not sure if this is a big enough departure from Vista to entice people to upgrade. The pricing of the upgrade is going to be critical, especially considering the low prices that Apple is offering to OS X users when Snow Leopard is released, just a month before Windows 7. I think that there are a number of users on the fence, and if they find that Windows 7 isn't a worthy upgrade for them or if the upgrade is priced too high, they'll jump ship and get a Mac.

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Mon, 15 Jun 2009 05:06:13 Z

I installed 7 RC on my home desktop, and I love it. Dual booted on sister's laptop, and I love it.
Whatever problems I had with either install in Beta have been repaired, and I love it.
Desktop has dual monitors and I have them working as I want by just setting it up in the Screen Resolution settings. I had a bit of troubles getting my Dell AIO 924 Printer to work, but only because I left it attached when installing OS. Re installing with proper drivers etc from Dell fixed that.
Had some sound problems at first (Audigy sound card) but that was solved by messing with the Sound settings from Control Panel.
On the Beta install I could not get the laptop's wireless card to work for more than 5 minutes, but in the RC it works perfectly. I didn't even have to hardwire it to router at all during setup.

I am just a surfer and don't "work" on my computer,( I do use it for about 12 hours a day) but I imagine I represent the average used. I do music (iTunes works great as does WMP and it recognizes my Sansa Clip, easy to load music on), videos play well in WMP. WMC recognizes my ancient MSI TV@nywhere tuner card and works great (we still have analogue cable here in Canada for a while yet) Pictures are easy to sort and deal with (Windows Live photo thing)
I also use successfully .. Tweetdeck, Winamp Media Player (for internet radio) Firefox with loads of add-ons, Chrome, IE8, Google Earth, Microsoft Life Cam, Live Messenger, Google Talk, Norton's Interent Security Beta for Win 7 ( Kaspersky Beta on laptop, just to try it)

Everything works great... fast , smooth, great looking... Did I mention that I Love It.

I'll be talking everyone I know into considering upgrading to it (except those Mac people... I don't think it works on Macs.. too bad. :) )

Gawd, I sound like a Fanboy!! a 50 year old fanboy. geeesh

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Mon, 15 Jun 2009 07:10:08 Z

Hi.
Is there going to be Aero panel when you right click on a file/pic/folder
at the moment when you right click on anything a panel with out aero comes up
and in my mind Aero when you right click would be very good.

thanks

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Mon, 15 Jun 2009 09:12:10 Z

I am with you 100%. I can cope with the bugs in WMP12 (even if for a Relase Candidate there are too many and too serious) but the removal of so many useful features for no apparent reason is really a deal breaker for me.
I wonder what reason exists to remove the advanced tag editor. I hope it is not the stupid idea that making mp3 file management harder people will start using the wma format. That would be pathetic.
Anyhow I am happy I live in Europe so eventually I will get a version of Windows 7 without WMP12. I hope Microsoft will make WMP11 compatible with Windows 7, otherwise the competion issues raised by the EU Commission will be solved already because everyone will need to look for other options.... (same story as with IE6/IE7....)

Edit: I would like to list all the features missing in WMP12 but available in WMP11

- advanced tag editor
- "find in library" menu item
- useful taskbar (where one can change volume, mute, check song information, etc)
- ability to drag/drop a new folder into the player window to have it added to library immediately. Doing this in WMP12 will instead produce another library (this is really poor... at least WMP12 should check if I am adding a subfolder to an existing library!!)
- ...... (please add to this list)

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Mon, 15 Jun 2009 12:01:30 Z

Hi guys, could it be possible to add some sort of "checkbox" into the UAC popup window, stating "Do not ask again until this executable changes", as a choice, to ease the "necessary annoyance" just a little bit more? Could be nice if I could dismiss this question just until some trojan replaces/modifies the .exe in question, or, for that unavoidable matter, if a regular and authorized software update replaces it? Would be really nice ;)

System Specs: Windows 7 x64 RC Build 7100, AMD A64x2 5300+ Black @ 3GHz, 2GB DDR2 SDRAM @ 800MHz, Gigabyte GA-MA790X DS4 Motherboard, Sapphire Radeon HD3870 512MB GDDR4, SB Live24 Sound

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Mon, 15 Jun 2009 12:30:25 Z

a couple of comments:

- please offer a way to change to location of the offline files cache via GUI
- please dump WMP12; take WMP11 rename it WMP13 to avoid the shame and pretend it's the latest and greatest...

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Mon, 15 Jun 2009 14:18:13 Z

i use the feature so that i can have a custom welcom screen in Windows 7 and the weirdest thing happened the other day. the value, "OEMBackground" reset its data value to "0" for some reason when its default value is "1". does anone else use the feature for customizing the welcome sreen picure so that they do not have to use the default picture, even though it looks better than the default picture than the one for vista's welcome screen. and if you are using this feature like i am, are you getting this issue like me? because we need to get microsoft to fix this issue and other ones as well of course. i noticed in this feature that you could only use files that are very small in size. i think that microsoftsoft needs to increase the file size so that we can have more of achoice of picture to use with this feature.

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Mon, 15 Jun 2009 16:26:48 Z

BUG REPORT

Application: MSPAINT.EXE

Symptoms: MSPAINT has large memory leak doing various operations, in this particular example, utilizing the crop feature.

To reproduce:

1. run built-in applet, Paint (MSPAINT.EXE)
2.   load a suitably large image into Paint. In my case, I used a 7.3MB color JPG photo scan from PH Photosmart Premium scanner, dimensions 5760x7936.
3.   bring up Taskmgr.exe and note how much memory it is using, in my case it is about 497,804k at this point.
4.   choose the rectanglular selection tool, to cut out a small portion of the image, note that memory usage has gone up just with the selection of the area, in my case 642,548k
5.   choose Crop
6. look at Taskmgr.exe to see how much memory MSPAINT.EXE is using now, in my case, now 1,076,248k
7. repeat the steps 4-6, eventually Paint will run out of memory, in my case 2-3 times.
8.   at this point, mspaint fails on every operation, even an attempt to close the Paint main window
9.   to get rid of Paint, use taskmgr.exe "End Process" to kill it.

Windows 7 RC, 32-bit, running on HP dv5t with 3GB RAM.

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Symptoms: MSPAINT has large memory leak...

2. load a suitably large image into Paint. In my case, I used a 7.3MB color JPG photo scan from PH Photosmart Premium scanner, dimensions 5760x7936.
3. bring up Taskmgr.exe and note how much memory it is using, in my case it is about 497,804k

MSPAINT expanded your 5760x7936 jpg hi-res scanner image to a colossal 500MB. Then each step you took was recorded for later Undo/Redo's. Eventually it overflowed memory and crashed. Kind of understandable. Bug? Uh, well, free.

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Tue, 16 Jun 2009 00:01:18 Z

While I'm not aware of any chekcbox (that would be too easy ;)) I beleive you can do this by luanching secpol.msc and the going into the Software Restirctions policy and defining an "additional hash rule". By using a has you can ensure that the permision only works as long as the build is unchanged and then set your secuirty level to unrestricted (which will run it in a UAC virtualized permission level).

If you want to allow updates permission to, well you have to hope the publisher signs thier .exe s and turst the publisher instead .... or ... why I don't reocmend .. simply trust that path. Last option has some major problems ...

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Tue, 16 Jun 2009 01:50:37 Z

Hello hittra,

Have you been able to resolve your question? If so please post the answer so others can see or if you need more help let us know.

Thanks

-Scott

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Tue, 16 Jun 2009 02:01:44 Z

Symptoms: MSPAINT has large memory leak...

2. load a suitably large image into Paint. In my case, I used a 7.3MB color JPG photo scan from PH Photosmart Premium scanner, dimensions 5760x7936 .
3. bring up Taskmgr.exe and note how much memory it is using, in my case it is about 497,804k

MSPAINT expanded your 5760x7936 jpg hi-res scanner image to a colossal 500MB. Then each step you took was recorded for later Undo/Redo's. Eventually it overflowed memory and crashed. Kind of understandable. Bug? Uh, well, free .

A couple of suggestions:

1. ideally, Paint should store large undo/redo data in temporary file(s) on disk.
2. alternatively, the undo/redo stack should be trimmed (old items first) in the event of memory shortage

So... maybe not a coding bug, but certainly a code design bug. Large files are a reality. In a program which makes large edits on large files, resulting in large undo/redo items on the stack, care must be taken in deciding where they are stored and how many of them to store.

As for the free part -- as an MSFT shareholder, I would hope that Windows is not free.

On top of all this, if you instead do a File...New before you run out of memory repeating the Crop operations, you will discover that there is perhaps some sort of memory leak, at the very least a fragmentation issue (note that severe fragmentation can be caused by very small memory leaks). The way I discovered this problem in the first place, was by using Paint to do a large number of scans of some old photos, cropping the "bad" parts off the edges, which sometimes required a few Crop. After finishing and saving the photo, I'd do a File...New, then proceed to do another scan. Eventually there was not enough memory to either complete the scan, or complete the Crop on the next photo (and sometimes, not enough to save the one that had just been scanned/cropped).

I don't really expect such problems to be fixed at this point in the development cycle, but here it is for someone to look at for next time around...

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Tue, 16 Jun 2009 02:11:11 Z

BUG REPORT

Application: Windows Media Center

Symptoms: No mouse pointer visible in Windows Media center full screen when "Display pointer trails" is checked in Mouse Control Panel

To reproduce:

1.   run Control Panel -> Mouse Properties applet
2.   select the checkbox in "Visibility" group reading "Display pointer trails" (Short or long ... doesn't matter)
3.   now run Windows Media Center, then maximize it to run full screen
4.   bug: you will notice that you have no mouse pointer... the mouse is working and you can click on things (if you can find them)
5.   hit Alt+F4 to close Windows Media Center, since anything else is hopeless.

Note: This bug is acknowledged in http://support.microsoft.com/kb/556063, although only for Windows XP Media Center 2002. I've not tried any other versions of Media Center, but I'd bet the same bug is still around in MC 2005, Vista MC, and now Win7 MC.

Windows 7 RC, 32-bit, running on HP dv5t with 3GB RAM.

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Tue, 16 Jun 2009 02:17:19 Z

Its a bit nature of the beast of large file editing, Photoshop can take up large amounts of memory in history edits, maybe 2-3GB in extreme cases the difference being that (not sure about MS paint) but in Photoshop you can custom set the amount of history edits from 1 to 999 and also clear the history cache, and so you should be able to for a program that costs several hundred ££/$$ etc, a free one will have far fewer little tricks up its sleeve, to be fair MS paint is real basic, there are better free programs out there, like Irfanview etc.

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Tue, 16 Jun 2009 02:29:40 Z

BUG REPORT

Application: Windows Explorer

Symptoms: Unable to delete two-level nested folder from Windos Explorer folder pane.

To reproduce:

1.   run Windows Explorer
2.   create the following nested folder structure under Libraries/Documents/My Documents
           Test
                Test1
                       Test2
        (so you've got a c:\Users\YourUserName\Documents\Test\Test1\Test2 structure)
3.   now move back up to the root of the newly created structure at Test in the folder pane
4.   make sure to expand the Test\Test1\Test2 structure in the folder pane
5.   now right click and attempt to Delete Test
6.   bug: after confirming the delete, you get a message "You'll need administrator permission to delete this folder" Test   Date created: <etc>
    of course, administrator rights are not required for this operation, since the user is the owner of the just created folders
    even if you give admin rights to the operation, it will fail (of course)

Work around: it seems if you remove the Test2 folder in this example, you are able to then delete Test/Test1 and Test just by performing the delete on Test... something to do with more than 2 levels nested. Strange stuff here -- makes you jump into cmd.exe and do a "rmdir /s Test"

Note: this is all running as standard user.

Windows 7 RC, 32-bit, running on HP dv5t with 3GB RAM.

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Tue, 16 Jun 2009 02:46:29 Z

I whole-heartedly agree. I am getting a UAC message everytime I start my computer to load the same program, and I always click "ok." I get a UAC alert everytime I use IE to visit a site that uses Flash. There needs to be a way to disable the UAC for certain repeat programs.

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Tue, 16 Jun 2009 03:07:28 Z

UAC is like a UI firewall. If you have a program that does somehting specific at boot you can usually also give your user account explicit rights to whatever it is tryign to get to and you wont recieve a UAC prompt (UAC triggers when you try to access somehting that requires administrators group provelages; give explicit rights and it wont trigger).

Flash on IE pages .... honestly thats not normal ... you have somethign else going on there.

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Tue, 16 Jun 2009 03:27:51 Z

This is pretty much my experience with Windows 7 RC x64 since 6/13/2009. I’m mostly comparing Win7 with Windows XP x86, since WinXP used to be my main OS.

My Computer Specs

Windows 7 RC x64

3.0 GHz AMD Phenom II X4 940

Gigabyte GA-MA790X-UD4P 790X

2 x 2GB DDR2 800 G.Skill

Sapphire ATI Radeon HD 4870 1GB

Western Digital 1TB SATA

PATA DVD-Burner

Mid-Tower Cooler Master

700W Cooler Master

23" LCD Hannspree HD Monitor

Logitech Z560 THX 4.1 Speaker System

OS Installation

1. Before installing Win7 I had two partitions in one hard drive (because of the 137GB barrier): Partition 0 with WinXP x86 OS and Partition 1 with my data (148GB). And of course I backed up my data with an external hard drive. Then I used Win7 to format Partition 0 and installed the OS there. After installation my 148GB of data in partition 1 is still intact! I guess the 137GB barrier was a blessing in disguise.

2. Win7 sets up my home network automatically. In WinXP, it didn’t and I had to set it up manually.

3. Installation was smooth sailing.

Windows Experience Index

BlackBox

Basic Stuff

1. AVG 8.5 (x86): Works.

2. FireFox 3.0.11 (x86): Works.

3. Ethernet RealTek Driver: Before this driver, the Internet worked. But after this driver was installed (as an optional update from Win7) the Internet didn’t work. I used system restore to get it back the way it was.

4. Easy Energy Saver (x86): (a motherboard software) Works.

5. Latest Win7 ATI video drivers: Works.

6. Core Temp 0.99.5 Beta (x64): Does not start up with Win7 after I set it to do so in the Core Temp GUI. So I tried to fix manually by doing these steps , but it still didn’t work.

7. 7-zip (x64): Works.

8. BlackBox (x64): Can’t resize its window (if medium icons chosen). Didn’t need to resize if I used small icons.

9. Prime95 (x64): (blend test) After running it for the first time, Win7 seems to last longer than WinXP without going over the minimum safe temperature (62C core temperature in my case). All cores pass the Self-Test 1024K after 18 minutes. Tried the test again at a later time, and then it reached more than 62C in less than a minute.

10. MWSnap (x86): Works.

11. Lexmark Z54 Printer (x86): Printer driver does not work. Though Win7 recognizes that there is a printer, I still can’t print.

12. 4.1 Surround Sound: Rear speakers don’t work (didn’t install driver yet). I ran into this exact same problem with WinXP after installing the RealTek HD Audio driver.

13. Nero Burning ROM 6.3.1.20 (x86): Works even though Win7 says it isn’t compatible. I burned video files to a DVD and played them back. Seems to have no problems.

14. Winamp (x86): At first I couldn’t load any mp3’s in the playlist area. But then I restarted Winamp and then it magically worked.

OS GUI

1. I set the option to download and install Windows updates myself , but Win7 Action Center thinks I shouldn't (and should set it to automatically download and install updates). Is there a way to filter out suggestions or upgrades from Action Center?

2. Pretty good speeds on the OS desktop.

Gaming

1. Steam (x86): It thinks the latest video driver is not the latest video driver. I get this message when loading Left 4 Dead.

So it sends me to the ATI website and I download this.

I run Left 4 Dead again, and it still doesn’t think I downloaded the latest drivers. I go to device manager and the version says it is later than 8.14.10.622. Unless version 8.612.0.0 is not the latest driver?

2. Left 4 Dead (x86): Randomly turned off my machine once while playing. Runs at around 60fps at the highest video settings and 1920x1080 resolution.

3. Sims 3 (x86): Works.

Music Score Writing

Sibelius 5 (x86): Works.

HD Video Editing

1. 1080p video playback (using windows media player): Haven't noticed any lag.

2. Adobe Premiere Pro CS4 (x86), ffdShow (x86, tested an older version and not the more recent beta 6): It is best to output video as an uncompressed AVI and uncompressed audio. Then encode with MediaCoder x64, h264 codec, and mp4 container. In WinXP, ffdShow crashes when trying to configure it. But in Win7 it works.

3. Fraps (x64): Benchmarking doesn’t work. It doesn’t save any csv files. Smooth gameplay while recording at 1920x1080p30. Fraps icon missing after install (I had medium icons on). The Fraps icon was fixed after I picked small icons. GUI has strange black line marks on them in medium icon mode, but was fixed when the “small icons” option was set.

4. GSpot Codec Information Appliance : Works.

5. VirtualDub (x64), ffdShow (x86): VirtualDub x64 can’t see ffdShow x86. I had to make ffdShow use VirtualDub x86 to work. When using VirtualDub x86 and ffdShow x86 in Win7, it takes about 2x as long to encode a video using XVID compared to WinXP.

6. MediaCoder (x64): Awful XVID encoding times compared to WinXP using MediaCoder x86. But then again MediaCoder x64 was only tested on WinXP x64. H264 encoding time was greatly improved in Win7. I also notice the quality of compression is increased (when encoding in WinXP, the videos look more pixelated). It seems h264 is the way to go and using mp4 container. If the container were to be avi, the framerate was choppy.

HD Video Encoding Testing Data

Here are some video encoding data when playing Left 4 Dead on max. video settings while using Fraps to record it.

In summary, WinXP really likes the XVID or mpeg4 codec with avi container, but Win7 really likes the h264 codec with mp4 container. (Note: max. temp as indicated by Core Temp). Also I had better framerates during gameplay while recording in Win7 than WinXp.

Temperatures (according to Core Temp)

Using the stock heatsink. Win7 runs a little hotter compared to WinXP.
Left 4 Dead max. video settings at 1920x1080p
WinXP: max. 58C
Win7: max. 60C

1. Idle Temp: min. 37C, ave. 40's

2. Left 4 Dead max. video settings: max. 60C

3. (Left 4 Dead max. video settings) + (Fraps recording at 1920x1080p30): max. 60C

4. Prime95 (blend test): goes over 62C sometimes

5. MediaCoder video encoding at 1280x720p29.97: goes over 62C sometimes

6. 1920x1080p30 video encoding with h264 (MediaCoder x64): goes over 62C sometimes

Memory Usage (according to Win7 Resource Monitor “in use” memory)

1. Doing everyday tasks (i.e. Internet, email, Microsoft Office stuff): around 1200MB

2. Video Encoding, 1920x1080p30, h264, MediaCoder x64 : around 1200MB

3. Prime95 (blend test): around 2700MB

4. Adobe Premiere Pro CS4: (while encoding a 720p video to an uncompressed avi) around 3000MB

Win7 (x86)

Ran it on old machine (AMD Athlon XP +1800, 1GB memory, 256MB video memory): very sluggish, and it meets the minimum system requirements.

Conclusion

In a nutshell, if Microsoft keeps this up, Windows 7 shall be the Windows XP killer.

Have Comments about Windows 7 RC? (Part 4 - Do not post questions in this thread)

Tue, 16 Jun 2009 04:41:10 Z

A feature missing in Windows 7 is the ability to cycle through multiple windows of the active application only. MAC OS does this via COMMAND + ` To my knowledge windows has no such universal shortcut. CTRL + F6 works only in some apps, but is an awkward combination. Other apps use CTRL + TAB which is slightly easier. But again, there is no consistency here. I would like CTRL + ` or ALT + ` to cycle through the active app's windows only, as I often have 3-4 excel files open, and I only want to cycle through them, not my FF, itunes and solitaire also (like with ALT TAB). Being an accountant, I'm sure other accountants and professionals who use excel and word often would really appreciate this feature! Cheers. Oh, and more options in the battery window would be good. (especially since I never really use balanced). Or at the very least, the option to choose which two plans will appear in the battery meter left-click menu. That aside, given Apples abandon of my PPC G5, the general price of their stuff and the awesomeness of Win7 - I'm probably converting.

Have Comments about Windows 7 RC? (Part 4 - Do not post questions in this thread)

Tue, 16 Jun 2009 05:15:48 Z

After reading many problems regarding hardware in Windows 7 I wanted to post the success I've had regarding my (new 64 bit build) hardware.

I'm using ASUS P5Q-EM MB w/ 8GB of DDR2 800Mhz GEIL memory, an Intel Q6700 CPU and a single SATA drive for the OS. Initally the install failed as I was trying to add drivers for my ICH10R w/o the RAID eneabled so I just did a non raid install. The VGA monitor was recognized, the Realtek Lan 8111 went smooth and I did about 150MB update which helped make everything go smoother.

I loaded the OS via a Liteon IDE DVD writer iHAP 322 and later added the Liteon SATA Blu RAY DVD iHES 206 drive. I installed ESET NOD32 AV and after installing the NERO SW for the drives I could play (on my VGA monitor) DVD's and BD Disks with no problem using a 2.1 speaker system and a stereo feed from the MB Realtek ALC 1200 audio HW. At no time did I ever use ASUS supplied chipset, LAN, Audio etc. drivers even though I downloaded the Windows 7 BETA's on their website.

After all that I installed the Hauppauge WinTV-HVR-2250 Media Center Kit / Dual tuner TV PCIe X1 card and began watching my local HD OTA channels via a indoor rabbit ears antenna. I followed the install instructions from the manufacturer and had no problems. I've watched live, recorded the live show, burned the media of the show and rewatched the media with no change in picture or sound quality. The remote control runs the entire PC while Media Center is running with out a single problem.

I installed both a Brother laser (HL 630 profile) and the HP 7350 Photosmart printer (Deskjet 5550 profile according to HP) both direct and via a wired Trendnet 1paralell, 2 USB print server. Had to create and define ports for the print server part once the direct connects were installed and working.

I have struggled some with all the group security policy stuff and did not type in a password initially when prompted and subsequently have not thus far for testing purposes. This is where I'm a little weak from the knowledge standpoint so maybe someone could reccomend a good starting primer unless there isn't one for the template that is in use with Win 7.

My advice is do a lot of research on your hardware and stick to quality products and companies. Overall I think this will be a very exciting and highly useful product that we'll be using for a long time!

Have Comments about Windows 7 RC? (Part 4 - Do not post questions in this thread)

Tue, 16 Jun 2009 05:16:28 Z

aargh...sounds a bit too complicated :) the checkbox would be foolproof...

System Specs: Windows 7 x64 RC Build 7100, AMD A64x2 5300+ Black @ 3GHz, 2GB DDR2 SDRAM @ 800MHz, Gigabyte GA-MA790X DS4 Motherboard, Sapphire Radeon HD3870 512MB GDDR4, SB Live24 Sound

Have Comments about Windows 7 RC? (Part 4 - Do not post questions in this thread)

Tue, 16 Jun 2009 06:26:49 Z

For some reason I was unable to right click some files. At first it seemed to just restricted to Start Menu items - really annoying because it makes the allow drag/drop option redundant - but then I was only able to right click my User folder, Computer, and Recycle Bin!

Right clicking did not bring up a menu for the file - but it may have been still there. Sometimes if I left click within the range of this invisible menu it'd pop up the Properties option or 'Restore to previous version' sub-option.

This issue seemed to relieve itself upon restarting Explorer, but I still found it rather odd, as it didn't vanish when I put the computer into standby - as my Wacom tablet/touch-screen drivers stop working after any sort of system idle state, I assumed something like this would re-set itself also. (BTW, I am still wondering if there's any way to get the Wacom drivers to behave without having to re-set the profiles after restart/standy/hibernation... or before I decide to use it.)

Speaking of the tablet features; I notice the "Math(s) Input Panel" is within the notification icon area, but the normal text "Tablet PC Input Panel" is outside it, and is using the old 16x16 icon stretched into a 24x24 area. I believe I've mentioned this twice already, but the discovery of the alternate Math Input utility reaffirms my idea that the Tablet PC panel could be moved into the notification area with it, rather than as a "toolbar".

Hey hold on... where's my other notification icons? That explorer restart just created a new problem.

da page :B

Have Comments about Windows 7 RC? (Part 4 - Do not post questions in this thread)

Tue, 16 Jun 2009 07:00:04 Z

This was a problem in Windows Vista that always bugged me and it obviously didn't get fixed in Windows 7. When you go to the users tab of the task manager, you can right-click on a logged on user and click logoff to log them off. Either at this point, or when you click "log off user" on the confirmation window, the task manager should escalate itself and pop-up a UAC confirmation window (depending on UAC settings). But instead, you simply get an error: "User USERNAME (SessionId=2) could not be logged off. Access is denied." This makes it seem like an error occurred, when in fact, you just have to have an escalated task manager window open in order to perform this operation. The only way to escalate task manager (that I know of at least) is to go to the processes tab and click "show processes from all users." Then return to the users tab to perform the logoff operation. This round-about method that has to be performed in order to logoff a user this way is uneccesary and not straightforward at all. An auto-escalate with the typical administrator shield icon next to the logoff menu item and/or confirmation button should be added here.

Have Comments about Windows 7 RC? (Part 4 - Do not post questions in this thread)

Tue, 16 Jun 2009 07:05:35 Z

Found an EXTREMELLY annoyng "feature/bug" in WMP12. If I play a movioe from hard disk and I insert an cd/dvd wich contains diferent files, including movies - such an CD from my photo camera, or an DVD/CD with only one movie - an avi as example, WMP12 stops playing, shows an blue screen with Resume on it. If I press resume - it plays the movie/movies from the inserted CD/DVD instead to resume the already playing movie. I'm not interested at all that WMP stops playing when inserting an CD/DVD.
I usually do 2-3 jobs simultaneously on my computer, like watching a movie during I copy files from/to an CD/DVD. And the RESUME button doesn't do the right job now.

In fact after installing almost all the software I normally use I have a lot of issues and crashes. Corel Photo-Paint 14 - have a big lag when opening files and at resize it shows sometimes partial images - uses black instead of image. Corel Video Studio 12 - it works to encode - it has same time like in XP for same files. But it has very big lags when loading movie or when dragging files to timeline. Sometimes it does not respons for 2-3 minutes when dragging. It also happened that during encoding the mouse an keyboard to work abnormally - some keys heve not effect, the mouse left click does also right clicks and the right button not working. Also Explorer and task manager stopped responding - only solution - let Video Studio to finish, then restart computer. Strange is that it seems to be an memory leak issue, because the CPU it's almost unused - 3% when dragging to 70 5 when encoding, and memoy stays at 50-60 5%. Also VirtualDub crashed from time to time, and latest DivX codec has some files wich are not copied during install, hopefully not the codecs.

Also I have some problems when copying files from one HDD to an other. In XP I have an average speed for larger files ( 1 Gb and more ) of 76 Mb/s , in Vista only 50 Mb/s and in 7 only 58 Mb/s, for same discs, same computer - iI have installed, on different, identical HDD on same main sistem for comparison. I used Total Commander , as this is the main "explorer" for me, and also shows speeds in real time. The only good thing - if I have an 4 Gb folder with thousand of images/files and I want to delete using Total Coomander, in XP it takes 1 second to do it, in Vista 3 hours ( with SP1 installed it takes only 2 ) and in 7 about 3 seconds.

Also I have an other problem - when installing an Antivirus - tested until now Norton and Kaspersky ( W7 betas ) the boot time and the responsivity of the Win 7 are extremmelly afected. Times grows up to 2-3 times than without AV. Practically I cannot make the difference between it and Vista with same antivirus. XP is far less affected.

Have Comments about Windows 7 RC? (Part 4 - Do not post questions in this thread)

Tue, 16 Jun 2009 08:51:34 Z

@ Cristi -

regarding your AV programs, you should use others with a lighter footprint. Norton and Kaspersky are known slowdowners by their heavy system impact (if that didn't change with newer program updates).

Mobile AMD64 3000+, VIA Apollo K8T800 chipset, 1 G RAM, ATIRadeonMobility 9700, 20x DVDRW, C:XPSP3 (55G),D:WIN7 (25G),F:DATA (250G)

Have Comments about Windows 7 RC? (Part 4 - Do not post questions in this thread)

Tue, 16 Jun 2009 10:24:17 Z

Microsoft cannot RTM an OS with broken file management or else I refuse to upgrade even though Windows 7 is otherwise nice. I have so many issues with Windows Explorer, none of them are being fixed, I've been ranting on almost every community site since Vista RTMed. - Users want back advanced file type functionality back. I can't create secondary user actions/set default action, customize file *type* icon, MIME type, can't even delete defined file types, can't show or hide extension for only particular file types. - You can't set permissions/ACLs on multiple selected items. A simple security tab is missing when multiple files/folders are selected!! - Standard actions like Cut/Copy/Paste/Delete require more than 2 clicks (Organize menu instead of toolbar) - I thought menus were passe so where's the consistency here? Countless users are screaming for customizable toolbar buttons with icons instead of text. Microsoft hides the menus and again puts other actions in an Organize menu? Please bring back standard toolbar. - Column handlers in Explorer can't display custom information from shell extensions because IColumnProvider is deprecated. WTF! IColumnProvider should be supported in Windows 7. There are a dozen shell extensions that break because IColumnProvider is deprecated. - Free disk space is not quickly accessible except from (My) Computer or drive properties. Why? What is the status bar for? Why is it nearly empty now? - Size of all files in a folder is not shown without selection. Show it on the status bar and details pane. - Size of 15+ files requires clicking "Show more details", again changing selection of a single file + 15 again requires "Show more details". 17 files selected, again "Show more details". What a horrible user experience. - Can't set folder thumbnails using Folder.jpg. All my folder.jpg are suddenly useless? - Alt+Enter to see properties of selected items in left/navigation pane of Explorer is broken since Vista. Unfixed bug. - Can't see properties of multiple files in Recycle Bin. Properties is there in the context menu yet it is broken by design. - Files are compulsorily autosorted, 100+ files pasted in another 100+ set get scatterred all across. We want configurable auto sorting, can you hear that? - Rename or new folder creation also autosorts assuming you won't be doing any more action on that same item again. Several times only in Windows 7, quickly pressing the New folder button and hitting Enter has given me the error message "Can't find new folder" because it has been autosorted - You can't do batch actions on 15+ files from the GUI. The registered verb handler disappears after selecting 15+ files. - You can't open two different files types by selecting them and pressing Enter, e.g. DOC and DOCX. Must open them individually. - WMP's thumbnail preview lacks volume control unlike the Deskband which had volume control - You can disable combining taskbar buttons but not grouping. Two windows of the same app e.g. Explorer, IE are always grouped, can't set them to appear on extreme right as you were accustomed to for 14 years. Microsoft making decisions for users. Very bad. - Network activity animation isn't shown in notification area. Dial-up users are screwed. - Simple right click actions now require keyboard+mouse usage that is, Shift+right click. Where is the accessibility here? Why are you forcing users to use both and not use either mouse or keyboard exclusively? - There's no UI to customize your search, you must memorize the search syntax. Plus real-time search is significantly slower because it searches indexed as well as non-indexed files and their contents. Why can't you search just for file names normally and search contents only when I want? Search isn't helping me find anything, XP classic search actually worked, do you know that? - Default setting of new taskbar requires 2 clicks to switch, first on button then on thumbnail instead of 1 click directly on non-combined button. - Common dialogs for Open/Save don't remember their views, at least not the new ones. Not yet fixed in RC. - Auto arrange and Align to Grid are not available in Windows Explorer, users can't drag icons around freely after doing so for 14+ years. - The horizontal Sort bar that appeared for ANY view in Explorer in Vista now only appears for details view. Regression from Vista. - Left/navigation pane doesn't automatically scroll horizontally for longer folder names like Vista, there's no horizontal scrollbar either for manual scrolling. Why is this gone? - Arrange By/Stack By is only available for libraries, not regular folders - Restore previous windows at logon feature gone in RC. MS added it to Internet Explorer and removed it from Windows Explorer?

Anonymuos

Have Comments about Windows 7 RC? (Part 4 - Do not post questions in this thread)

Tue, 16 Jun 2009 10:36:00 Z

There's something wrong with Snipping Tool.

How to reproduce:
1) Minimize all programs/Show Desktop
2) Open Snipping Tool
3) Choose Window Snip
4) Hover on desktop about 200px from left and top edges.

You should see this (at least I do):

Snipping tool sees some sort of invisible window over there.

Can anyone confirm?

Regards,
Kristaps.

P.S.: Epic shoop is epic.

Have Comments about Windows 7 RC? (Part 4 - Do not post questions in this thread)

Tue, 16 Jun 2009 10:49:46 Z

Microsoft cannot RTM an OS with broken file management or else I refuse to upgrade even though Windows 7 is otherwise nice. I have so many issues with Windows Explorer, none of them are being fixed, I've been ranting on almost every community site since Vista RTMed. - Users want back advanced file type functionality back. I can't create secondary user actions/set default action, customize file *type* icon, MIME type, can't even delete defined file types, can't show or hide extension for only particular file types. - You can't set permissions/ACLs on multiple selected items. A simple security tab is missing when multiple files/folders are selected!! - Standard actions like Cut/Copy/Paste/Delete require more than 2 clicks (Organize menu instead of toolbar) - I thought menus were passe so where's the consistency here? Countless users are screaming for customizable toolbar buttons with icons instead of text. Microsoft hides the menus and again puts other actions in an Organize menu? Please bring back standard toolbar. - Column handlers in Explorer can't display custom information from shell extensions because IColumnProvider is deprecated. WTF! IColumnProvider should be supported in Windows 7. There are a dozen shell extensions that break because IColumnProvider is deprecated. - Free disk space is not quickly accessible except from (My) Computer or drive properties. Why? What is the status bar for? Why is it nearly empty now? - Size of all files in a folder is not shown without selection. Show it on the status bar and details pane. - Size of 15+ files requires clicking "Show more details", again changing selection of a single file + 15 again requires "Show more details". 17 files selected, again "Show more details". What a horrible user experience. - Can't set folder thumbnails using Folder.jpg. All my folder.jpg are suddenly useless? - Alt+Enter to see properties of selected items in left/navigation pane of Explorer is broken since Vista. Unfixed bug. - Can't see properties of multiple files in Recycle Bin. Properties is there in the context menu yet it is broken by design. - Files are compulsorily autosorted, 100+ files pasted in another 100+ set get scatterred all across. We want configurable auto sorting, can you hear that? - Rename or new folder creation also autosorts assuming you won't be doing any more action on that same item again. Several times only in Windows 7, quickly pressing the New folder button and hitting Enter has given me the error message "Can't find new folder" because it has been autosorted - You can't do batch actions on 15+ files from the GUI. The registered verb handler disappears after selecting 15+ files. - You can't open two different files types by selecting them and pressing Enter, e.g. DOC and DOCX. Must open them individually. - WMP's thumbnail preview lacks volume control unlike the Deskband which had volume control - You can disable combining taskbar buttons but not grouping. Two windows of the same app e.g. Explorer, IE are always grouped, can't set them to appear on extreme right as you were accustomed to for 14 years. Microsoft making decisions for users. Very bad. - Network activity animation isn't shown in notification area. Dial-up users are screwed. - Simple right click actions now require keyboard+mouse usage that is, Shift+right click. Where is the accessibility here? Why are you forcing users to use both and not use either mouse or keyboard exclusively? - There's no UI to customize your search, you must memorize the search syntax. Plus real-time search is significantly slower because it searches indexed as well as non-indexed files and their contents. Why can't you search just for file names normally and search contents only when I want? Search isn't helping me find anything, XP classic search actually worked, do you know that? - Default setting of new taskbar requires 2 clicks to switch, first on button then on thumbnail instead of 1 click directly on non-combined button. - Common dialogs for Open/Save don't remember their views, at least not the new ones. Not yet fixed in RC. - Auto arrange and Align to Grid are not available in Windows Explorer, users can't drag icons around freely after doing so for 14+ years. - The horizontal Sort bar that appeared for ANY view in Explorer in Vista now only appears for details view. Regression from Vista. - Left/navigation pane doesn't automatically scroll horizontally for longer folder names like Vista, there's no horizontal scrollbar either for manual scrolling. Why is this gone? - Arrange By/Stack By is only available for libraries, not regular folders - Restore previous windows at logon feature gone in RC. MS added it to Internet Explorer and removed it from Windows Explorer?
Anonymuos

I had previously posted this in a different thread:

"Yours are among a large list of items that I had hoped would be improved over Vista. It would have justified an upgrade to Windows 7. As it stands, I find little in Windows 7 that justifies the downgrade from Vista."

I doubt our comments had, have, ever will have any effect.

Have Comments about Windows 7 RC? (Part 4 - Do not post questions in this thread)

Tue, 16 Jun 2009 12:10:21 Z

Microsoft cannot RTM an OS with broken file management or else I refuse to upgrade even though Windows 7 is otherwise nice. I have so many issues with Windows Explorer, none of them are being fixed, I've been ranting on almost every community site since Vista RTMed. - Users want back advanced file type functionality back. I can't create secondary user actions/set default action, customize file *type* icon, MIME type, can't even delete defined file types, can't show or hide extension for only particular file types. - You can't set permissions/ACLs on multiple selected items. A simple security tab is missing when multiple files/folders are selected!! - Standard actions like Cut/Copy/Paste/Delete require more than 2 clicks (Organize menu instead of toolbar) - I thought menus were passe so where's the consistency here? Countless users are screaming for customizable toolbar buttons with icons instead of text. Microsoft hides the menus and again puts other actions in an Organize menu? Please bring back standard toolbar. - Column handlers in Explorer can't display custom information from shell extensions because IColumnProvider is deprecated. WTF! IColumnProvider should be supported in Windows 7. There are a dozen shell extensions that break because IColumnProvider is deprecated. - Free disk space is not quickly accessible except from (My) Computer or drive properties. Why? What is the status bar for? Why is it nearly empty now? - Size of all files in a folder is not shown without selection. Show it on the status bar and details pane. - Size of 15+ files requires clicking "Show more details", again changing selection of a single file + 15 again requires "Show more details". 17 files selected, again "Show more details". What a horrible user experience. - Can't set folder thumbnails using Folder.jpg. All my folder.jpg are suddenly useless? - Alt+Enter to see properties of selected items in left/navigation pane of Explorer is broken since Vista. Unfixed bug. - Can't see properties of multiple files in Recycle Bin. Properties is there in the context menu yet it is broken by design. - Files are compulsorily autosorted, 100+ files pasted in another 100+ set get scatterred all across. We want configurable auto sorting, can you hear that? - Rename or new folder creation also autosorts assuming you won't be doing any more action on that same item again. Several times only in Windows 7, quickly pressing the New folder button and hitting Enter has given me the error message "Can't find new folder" because it has been autosorted - You can't do batch actions on 15+ files from the GUI. The registered verb handler disappears after selecting 15+ files. - You can't open two different files types by selecting them and pressing Enter, e.g. DOC and DOCX. Must open them individually. - WMP's thumbnail preview lacks volume control unlike the Deskband which had volume control - You can disable combining taskbar buttons but not grouping. Two windows of the same app e.g. Explorer, IE are always grouped, can't set them to appear on extreme right as you were accustomed to for 14 years. Microsoft making decisions for users. Very bad. - Network activity animation isn't shown in notification area. Dial-up users are screwed. - Simple right click actions now require keyboard+mouse usage that is, Shift+right click. Where is the accessibility here? Why are you forcing users to use both and not use either mouse or keyboard exclusively? - There's no UI to customize your search, you must memorize the search syntax. Plus real-time search is significantly slower because it searches indexed as well as non-indexed files and their contents. Why can't you search just for file names normally and search contents only when I want? Search isn't helping me find anything, XP classic search actually worked, do you know that? - Default setting of new taskbar requires 2 clicks to switch, first on button then on thumbnail instead of 1 click directly on non-combined button. - Common dialogs for Open/Save don't remember their views, at least not the new ones. Not yet fixed in RC. - Auto arrange and Align to Grid are not available in Windows Explorer, users can't drag icons around freely after doing so for 14+ years. - The horizontal Sort bar that appeared for ANY view in Explorer in Vista now only appears for details view. Regression from Vista. - Left/navigation pane doesn't automatically scroll horizontally for longer folder names like Vista, there's no horizontal scrollbar either for manual scrolling. Why is this gone? - Arrange By/Stack By is only available for libraries, not regular folders - Restore previous windows at logon feature gone in RC. MS added it to Internet Explorer and removed it from Windows Explorer?
Anonymuos

I had previously posted this in a different thread:

"Yours are among a large list of items that I had hoped would be improved over Vista. It would have justified an upgrade to Windows 7. As it stands, I find little in Windows 7 that justifies the downgrade from Vista."

I doubt our comments had, have, ever will have any effect.

PERFECT. Your post put together all I´m asking for since Vista, and much more.
As I previously said, Windows 7 is a very good job over vista, but Windows Explorer is terrible, annoying, stupid and much more useless since Windows XP, back when it used to work right.

But, I too agree that our comments will never have any effect, because microsoft don´t want to listen. They are in such a hurry to get over Vista, that they don´t care about doing it right.
I know lots of people that will stick with Windows XP and wait for the next ( 8?) Windows, just because simple things like the lack of customization in explorer, or the problem that is impossible to set security / permissions options for more than one file at at time. As I already said lots of times, why broke something that was working right?

Have Comments about Windows 7 RC? (Part 4 - Do not post questions in this thread)

Tue, 16 Jun 2009 12:22:48 Z

@ Cristi -

regarding your AV programs, you should use others with a lighter footprint. Norton and Kaspersky are known slowdowners by their heavy system impact (if that didn't change with newer program updates).

Norton 2009 has the smallest footprint from all others major antivirus I've tested this year ( about 10 ). It's completelly rewriten than older versions. ( NIS 2009 uses about 39 Mb from sistem memory, an very rare use more than 2% processor - only when scanning ). Unfortunalelly for W 7 there are only few versions of AV compatibles, and all are betas so the choice is not only limited, but impefect. My point is that all have the same result on W7.

Have Comments about Windows 7 RC? (Part 4 - Do not post questions in this thread)

Tue, 16 Jun 2009 13:18:41 Z

Alex,
I think the best example i could use is the album art (image placeholders borders) in media player. that is what i meant by sketchy. i was making a suggestion that a better or nice way should be used instead of the (black lines) .it has nothing to do with a video curruption.

and for the logon screen i think something in the direction of Windows Media Center's animated background and magnifying glass for Users will be a nice change. Windows Vista logon screen looks even more cleaner and harmonized than windows 7. but i guess if that falls under a feature change, then that will be too late to consider for windows 7.

Have Comments about Windows 7 RC? (Part 4 - Do not post questions in this thread)

Tue, 16 Jun 2009 14:12:21 Z

UAC is Microsoft's way to learn developers that they should create software that does not require administrative privileges. If this is the case you will only notice UAC when you try to install new software on your system or try to run software that makes changes to your system settings.

Now you obviously have a program that you run regularly and that causes UAC to step in. Is this a program that makes changes to your system settings?
If it is, you can create a task in the Task Scheduler that starts this program with elevated privileges. You can then create a batchfile that starts the task for you without UAC asking for consent.

UAC also pops up when the name of the program you start contains 'setup' or 'instal' in the name. If this is the case UAC can be eliminated by changing the name.

If that is not the case and your program does not make changes to your system settings, then the developer probably messed up and included a manifest that tells your system it requires administrative privileges. If this is the case you can start digging to find out how to include a new manifest in the exe file or get back the the developer and ask for a version that does not require administrative privileges.

The option you requested is not a part of Windows 7. It could be a nice feature request for a next version.

Ray

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Tue, 16 Jun 2009 14:14:32 Z

If UAC alerts you everytime you use IE for a certainn site, you better start looking for what that site is trying to do to your system. Regular sites using flash do not trigger UAC unless you try to download content or install new software.

Ray

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Tue, 16 Jun 2009 14:37:22 Z

so this way Microsoft lets end users suffer from programmers bloated code that still triggers UAC in cases where its unnecessary... :)...not as user-friendly as the "do not bother me for this .exe version anymore" approach...

System Specs: Windows 7 x64 RC Build 7100, AMD A64x2 5300+ Black @ 3GHz, 2GB DDR2 SDRAM @ 800MHz, Gigabyte GA-MA790X DS4 Motherboard, Sapphire Radeon HD3870 512MB GDDR4, SB Live24 Sound

edit:
for system administrators in enterprise environments, I can understand you trying to enforce the usage of system security policies that handle UAC behavior (in secpol.msc). But for casual users, who use their PC as an entertainment center, it's a bit uneasy I imagine. I've got enough to do with Windows issues at work, so at home I'd like to be purely relaxed, playing around, even with my home Windows as well, on occassion...but not forced to play around with them :o))

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Tue, 16 Jun 2009 15:07:04 Z

Microsoft cannot RTM an OS with broken file management or else I refuse to upgrade even though Windows 7 is otherwise nice. I have so many issues with Windows Explorer, none of them are being fixed, I've been ranting on almost every community site since Vista RTMed. - Users want back advanced file type functionality back. I can't create secondary user actions/set default action, customize file *type* icon, MIME type, can't even delete defined file types, can't show or hide extension for only particular file types. - You can't set permissions/ACLs on multiple selected items. A simple security tab is missing when multiple files/folders are selected!! - Standard actions like Cut/Copy/Paste/Delete require more than 2 clicks (Organize menu instead of toolbar) - I thought menus were passe so where's the consistency here? Countless users are screaming for customizable toolbar buttons with icons instead of text. Microsoft hides the menus and again puts other actions in an Organize menu? Please bring back standard toolbar. - Column handlers in Explorer can't display custom information from shell extensions because IColumnProvider is deprecated. WTF! IColumnProvider should be supported in Windows 7. There are a dozen shell extensions that break because IColumnProvider is deprecated. - Free disk space is not quickly accessible except from (My) Computer or drive properties. Why? What is the status bar for? Why is it nearly empty now? - Size of all files in a folder is not shown without selection. Show it on the status bar and details pane. - Size of 15+ files requires clicking "Show more details", again changing selection of a single file + 15 again requires "Show more details". 17 files selected, again "Show more details". What a horrible user experience. - Can't set folder thumbnails using Folder.jpg. All my folder.jpg are suddenly useless? - Alt+Enter to see properties of selected items in left/navigation pane of Explorer is broken since Vista. Unfixed bug. - Can't see properties of multiple files in Recycle Bin. Properties is there in the context menu yet it is broken by design. - Files are compulsorily autosorted, 100+ files pasted in another 100+ set get scatterred all across. We want configurable auto sorting, can you hear that? - Rename or new folder creation also autosorts assuming you won't be doing any more action on that same item again. Several times only in Windows 7, quickly pressing the New folder button and hitting Enter has given me the error message "Can't find new folder" because it has been autosorted - You can't do batch actions on 15+ files from the GUI. The registered verb handler disappears after selecting 15+ files. - You can't open two different files types by selecting them and pressing Enter, e.g. DOC and DOCX. Must open them individually. - WMP's thumbnail preview lacks volume control unlike the Deskband which had volume control - You can disable combining taskbar buttons but not grouping. Two windows of the same app e.g. Explorer, IE are always grouped, can't set them to appear on extreme right as you were accustomed to for 14 years. Microsoft making decisions for users. Very bad. - Network activity animation isn't shown in notification area. Dial-up users are screwed. - Simple right click actions now require keyboard+mouse usage that is, Shift+right click. Where is the accessibility here? Why are you forcing users to use both and not use either mouse or keyboard exclusively? - There's no UI to customize your search, you must memorize the search syntax. Plus real-time search is significantly slower because it searches indexed as well as non-indexed files and their contents. Why can't you search just for file names normally and search contents only when I want? Search isn't helping me find anything, XP classic search actually worked, do you know that? - Default setting of new taskbar requires 2 clicks to switch, first on button then on thumbnail instead of 1 click directly on non-combined button. - Common dialogs for Open/Save don't remember their views, at least not the new ones. Not yet fixed in RC. - Auto arrange and Align to Grid are not available in Windows Explorer, users can't drag icons around freely after doing so for 14+ years. - The horizontal Sort bar that appeared for ANY view in Explorer in Vista now only appears for details view. Regression from Vista. - Left/navigation pane doesn't automatically scroll horizontally for longer folder names like Vista, there's no horizontal scrollbar either for manual scrolling. Why is this gone? - Arrange By/Stack By is only available for libraries, not regular folders - Restore previous windows at logon feature gone in RC. MS added it to Internet Explorer and removed it from Windows Explorer?
Anonymuos

Thank you for summarizing pretty much all my problems with win7 in one post!

Windows Explorer is a huge step backward from XP. it's unbelievable how they made the wrong decision on nearly EVERY change. It's the worst part of windows. Unfortunately, it's also the part I use most. I don't care about Media Center, or WMP, or IE, or any of the built-in apps, because there are alternatives, most of them free. Windows Explorer has become a toy app, designed for casual user for quick simple use, like what Wordpad is to MS Word. If you want the full functionality of the old Explorer, good luck finding a 3rd party alternative.

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Tue, 16 Jun 2009 15:38:31 Z

I have an observation to make regarding the new "math input panel". It doesn't fit horizontally on a 768x1024 display. This is the resolution that many, many popular tablets use when held vertically like a sheet of paper. Initially, the panel fits. But as soon as you start inking, buttons appear on the side that exceed the width of the screen. The only options to control the placement of these buttons is "left" or "right". Neither helps.

The normal "tablet PC input panel" fits fine.

It would also be nice if the math panel could dock to the side of the screen and slide out when needed similar to the way the tablet PC input panel does.

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Tue, 16 Jun 2009 15:40:48 Z

The virtual scroll bar on this website does not work in Internet Explorer 8, possibly due to Java incompatibilities.

-Alex

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Tue, 16 Jun 2009 15:57:11 Z

and another thing, adding a hash doesn't help in persistent cases when an .exe triggers UAC EVERYTIME it runs. Simply adding the checkbox "I trust this application permanently to make ANY changes it finds necessary", with the remark "please confirm again once the .exe file version/build changes" would do the job perfectly :o)))

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Tue, 16 Jun 2009 16:39:30 Z

The virtual scroll bar from this website does not work in Internet Explorer 8, possibly due to Java incompatibilities.

-Alex

Hmmm. If you mean the central window's L/R scroll buttons, they work for me.

But the rendering of the ads on the left are obviously faulty. Also, clicking the ! in the bottom left gives this error message:

Webpage error details

User Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 7.0; Windows NT 6.0; Trident/4.0; SLCC1; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; Media Center PC 5.0; .NET CLR 3.5.30729; .NET CLR 3.0.30729)
Timestamp: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 15:52:27 UTC

Message: A security problem occurred.
Line: 11
Char: 641
Code: 0
URI: http://www.quickpwn.com/wp-content/themes/quick-pwn-1/script/global.js

Here's line 11 as numerically listed in View Source:

<link rel="stylesheet" href="http://www.quickpwn.com/wp-content/themes/quick-pwn-1/style.css" type="text/css" media="screen" />

Here's the 11th line, hand counted in the HTML view of the Developer Tools:

<script src="http://www.quickpwn.com/wp-content/themes/quick-pwn-1/script/global.js" type="text/javascript"></script>

BTW I'm running VistaSP2+IE8 in compatibility mode.

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Tue, 16 Jun 2009 16:42:55 Z

and another thing, adding a hash doesn't help in persistent cases when an .exe triggers UAC EVERYTIME it runs. Simply adding the checkbox "I trust this application permanently to make ANY changes it finds necessary", with the remark "please confirm again once the .exe file version/build changes" would do the job perfectly :o)))
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The problem with that solution is that every developer would do just that (programmatically) to circumvent the issue that UAC tries to solve.

Most modern software does not need to run elevated since Windows Vista came out. Is there a specific piece of software that you have issues with?

Ray

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Tue, 16 Jun 2009 16:48:14 Z

Acronis Disk Director, TrueImage Home...uhm, there's really lots of them, basically any maintenance application, Total Commander as well, one particular game, Battlefield 2, etc...

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Tue, 16 Jun 2009 17:11:39 Z

If I have the shuffle function activated and start the media player through task bar icon and then open a playlist, it always starts playing the first song of the playlist and starts the shuffle only from the 2nd song on. If I open the playlist by double-clicking the .wpl file on the other hand, everything works fine (i. e. first played song is already a randomly chosen one). Is there any possibility to change that (i. e. make it work the same way when starting the playlist from the opened media player)? I at least didn't find any option for that. If it's not possible, that should definately be improved in a future version of the WMP, as it really sucks. If I start a playlist with shuffle function activated in the player, I want to listen to my songs chosen randomly (which includes the first song!) and not always hear the same damn song every time I start the playlist! ;)

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Tue, 16 Jun 2009 17:18:40 Z

Ok. So I've located global.js in my Temporary Internet cache. I've got it up in Edit, which conveniently shows rows and columns (else I'd need to click 600 times). But now, how exactly do I correlate Line 11 Char 641 with anything in there?

Microsoft: I love that you supply these great tools. Now, how about some documentation?

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Tue, 16 Jun 2009 18:27:51 Z

Well, I gave this new OS a fighting chance and I can say beyond a resonable doubt that Microsoft has a long way to go. Too many apps that aren't compatible would be one of my first gripes. Second, what, no Windows Mail? Neat little package of useless junk, if you ask me. Vista is bad enough. It wouldn't take much to improve that OS but in my opinion, you have succeeded with flying colors. My next computer purchase will definitely be a Mac.

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Tue, 16 Jun 2009 18:34:09 Z

Well, I don't know how to interpret Char 641. But if you parse-out the HTML header and etc down through the <title>...</title> line, then start counting, Char 641 then points directly to "text/javascript" in this line:

<script type="text/javascript" src="http://www.quickpwn.com/wp-content/themes/quick-pwn-1/script/global.js"></script>

I don't know what to think. In several MS IE forums, I've read a lot of complaints about java not working with IE8. Maybe they're right?

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Tue, 16 Jun 2009 19:25:01 Z

Well, I don't know how to interpret Char 641. But if you parse-out the HTML header and etc down through the <title>...</title> line, then start counting, Char 641 then points directly to "text/javascript" in this line:

<script type="text/javascript" src="http://www.quickpwn.com/wp-content/themes/quick-pwn-1/script/global.js"></script>

I don't know what to think. In several MS IE forums, I've read a lot of complaints about java not working with IE8. Maybe they're right?

thats an interesting thing to know, but at this point my web site seems to have no issues with IE8 and it uses a lot of Java and javascript. and the javascript codes i use in my web site are either custom made or built for use in IE6 or NS5. oddly at this point certain javascript codes work better in IE8 than they did in IE7, but i think IE6 worked better for a lot of things. but thats what we have XP mode for.

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Tue, 16 Jun 2009 19:36:11 Z

I think I've spotted what IE8 is complaining about here. This line looks like a cross-site reference:

<script type="text/javascript" src="http://www.quickpwn.com/wp-content/themes/quick-pwn-1/script/global.js"></script>

If it had been composed instead as a relative reference:

<script type="text/javascript" src="/wp-content/themes/quick-pwn-1/script/global.js"></script>

then I think there would have been no objection.

I'm going to conduct some experiments to understand this. But hopefully, somebody with more skill, experience and tools is reading this and will jump in before I waste too much more time with it. Please somebody.

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Tue, 16 Jun 2009 20:07:02 Z

Acronis Disk Director, TrueImage Home...uhm, there's really lots of them, basically any maintenance application, Total Commander as well, one particular game, Battlefield 2, etc...
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I agree that it would be a good thing if maintenance programs could be in some way dismissed from UAC. That's actually what Microsoft did for their own maintenance programs in Windows 7, but I don't see that happening in the near future. I think it would create a very interesting feature if AppLocker would be extended to do this for applications that are properly signed, but I cannot tell if that is going to happen.

The game developers just have to get their act together and create a game that does not require administrative privileges. This is exactly why MS put this feature in place. It's up to the users of the game to remind the devellopers that running their software on Vista or Windows 7 is a pain and should be fixed.

Ray

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Tue, 16 Jun 2009 21:41:34 Z

When I open Pictures (jpeg, bmp), it viewed using Windows Picture Viewer.
But when i clicked on my recent items, then click on Pictures (jpeg ,bmp) that i was recently opened.
The picture was'nt load correctly. Windows Picture Viewer just shows, Loading........ (Hang-up)
But when I clicked on my recent items, then right-clicked on the Pictures (jpeg, bmp), then clicked Preview.
It loads the picture on the screen correctly.

Just encountered this only using Windows7.

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Tue, 16 Jun 2009 21:52:46 Z

Hmmmph. Axfelix, why'd you get me started on this !?

IE8 Manage Add-ons sorts by date incorrectly. For the format mm/dd/yyyy, it uses month as the most-significant, year as least significant. Backwards.

All Add-ons contains less items than Run Without Permission. How can that be? Maybe I don't understand...

Regarding the site www.quickpwn.com discussed above, as an experiment I set it as Trusted. Then it loaded and rendered much better. (But IE8 still has the ! displayed). I then disabled Protected Mode, and tried again. Still seemed ok. Then un-did all that, brought it up again, and it still looked just as good. Then I cleared the browser cache and loaded the site again. Now it has the same rendering problem like first observed. Eh.

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Tue, 16 Jun 2009 22:48:26 Z

Turning off windows search (so, albeit at some cost, to restore some of the convenience of the classic start menu) produces a message box:

"Turning off Windows Search may affect other Windows features and applications installed on your computer"

With a link to 'more information' and yes/no buttons.

The dialog text should include something along the lines of

"Are you sure you wish to disable Windows Search?"

Ironically enough, clicking 'more information' yields a commercial for Windows HPC.

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Tue, 16 Jun 2009 22:53:25 Z

Hmmmph. As said in the original thread about "IE8 display problems", I believe the whole thing is a CANVAS or CANVAS like problem. CANVAS is a method from Apple allowing to run certain java scripts on a page, without need of a specific java applet (only by having a "canvas tag" in the browser). Browsers like Safari (of course), Firefox and Opera have this integrated canvas tag (sometimes referred as "HTML 5"), IE at the moment hasn't. There are some casual ideas to resolve this but nothing works ok at this time. You can prove this running the Futuremark/Peacekeeper browser benchmark or by looking at the examples at https://developer.mozilla.org/Special:Tags?tag=Canvas_examples, where you can see what IE displays or not. The reason I came to this idea is simply that some examples shown there and some examples from "explorer.canvas" (an older project trying to enable sites with this feature to work on IE) are very similar to that "center window's scroll bar" on the quoted site (www.quickpwn.com).

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Wed, 17 Jun 2009 00:30:22 Z

That's a funny statement considering one of the websites I get a popup on is microsoft.com- when flash works at all in IE 64-bit.

I understand that there is a workaround, but there shouldn't have to be. And Dex is right- a bunch of maintenance and monitoring programs do it. An easy example is ASUS Probe, a hardware monitoring program that comes with EVERY Asus motherboard (and they sell a good bit). Everytime I start up I have to go through the UAC. It shouldn't be that much of a hassel.

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Wed, 17 Jun 2009 01:29:43 Z

Thanks for the tips and the page. I am usually quite thorough with the web searches but I didn't find this one. I will post it on my website. Thanks for the tips on the Windows Help. Mine is broken right now on Vista since I installed IE 8. All the images are red X and the formatting is gone. I haven't had a chance to troubleshoot yet. It is a Dell Laptop though and Dell has taken over the Help with their format which is probably not IE 8 comptable.

Cheers, Lara
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lforbes

It took me 2 years to find that! :))

I figured I owed you - your tips have been great. Thanks! And btw, I likewise am having real trouble with IE8 + VistaSP2. Just now, I had to reply to Anthony_Mann's post and hand encode your blockquote here. Guess I'll be re-installing IE7 soon. :(

I don't have SP2 but IE 8 seems fine for me. I think it is this website though as I have had that happen a few times too but just this site. Fixed the Help with a patch to the registry on the imageclass key.

Cheers,
Lara

lforbes

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Wed, 17 Jun 2009 01:55:22 Z

I have a request for Windows 7 and i do not think microsoft will accept it, but i will go a head and request it anyways. i would like to have the ability to install Windows 7 via floppy diskette, like I did with Windows 2000. I only ask for this because there are a few PCs of mine that i wish to install Windows 7 on that are capable of running the operating system, but yet do not support the ability to boot from CD or DVD. yet, the odd thing about them is that they have enough RAM, Video memory, and processing power....

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Wed, 17 Jun 2009 02:19:56 Z

1 GB = 1000 MBs (actually 1024).

Were you thinking of 720K, 1.2M, 1.44M, or maybe you still have a good supply of those 2.88M floppies in your warehouse ?

(giggle)

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Wed, 17 Jun 2009 02:23:13 Z

Bug report and comments...

Didn't get much feedback from MS in my thread and someone suggested posting here. I have what looks like an IRQ conflict but I've tried many things to resolve it (including a clean install, BIOS update, etc) and I think it needs to be looked at by the dev team. Many more details in the thread and I will check back there to see if I can provide any useful input -

http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en/w7itprohardware/thread/738f84cd-7e53-493e-8616-e866322d9e5e

So far I am really impressed with Win7! Install was very smooth and it seems to "just work" (with the exception above) and it is very intuitive. I am by far more enthusuastic about Win 7 than any previous release.

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Wed, 17 Jun 2009 02:31:13 Z

1 GB = 1000 MBs (actually 1024).

Were you thinking of 720K, 1.2M, 1.44M, or maybe you still have a good supply of those 2.88M floppies in your warehouse ?

(giggle)

i have 1 of the 720KB, a collection of the 1.44MB...lol a few LS-120 floppies and i am not sure if i have a 3MB floppy around, but i may just have one somewhere, but hidden it the collection.

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Wed, 17 Jun 2009 06:24:09 Z

Thank you for summarizing pretty much all my problems with win7 in one post!

Windows Explorer is a huge step backward from XP. it's unbelievable how they made the wrong decision on nearly EVERY change. It's the worst part of windows. Unfortunately, it's also the part I use most. I don't care about Media Center, or WMP, or IE, or any of the built-in apps, because there are alternatives, most of them free. Windows Explorer has become a toy app, designed for casual user for quick simple use, like what Wordpad is to MS Word. If you want the full functionality of the old Explorer, good luck finding a 3rd party alternative.

I strongly agree. I never use Vista, but if I compare W7 with XP, I see that W7 is very faster (at last my 32 bit one) but the Windows Explorer and the lots of Mac-like "quickfood" settings (I prefer to make my own, sorry) are annoying. Most settings are hidden and you need a Roseta Stone to change some of it.

And IE8 really sucks. I used IE almst everything till IE7 (mixed with a little Opera :D) but IE8 is extremely slow to open new tabs, and while opening you can't do almost nothing in the whole PC.

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Wed, 17 Jun 2009 07:07:08 Z

@Lightingmaster

The popup you get because of Flash in IE 64-bit is probably because flash is not correctly installed on your system. I know it is quit a hassle to get it working properly. What I did was run IE as Administrator and go to adobe.com to install Flash. I think it worked when I installed the full client for Flash. This is something that Adobe has to fix.

The monitoring software from Asus should not require admin rights. At least it doesn't change the system settings when monitoring the system. The fact that Asus delivers this software with every motherboard they ship does not mean that their software can't be broken. You'd better ask Asus if they can fix their software. I recall this was already broken in Windows Vista and it will stay like that in Windows 7.

Ray

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Wed, 17 Jun 2009 08:51:41 Z

System tray infos are unreliable. With a certain frequency, I get: "No sound available" - when I can clearly hear it; "No AV protection detected" - when there IS one and this same one gets mysteriously detected after 1 hour of work; "No network detected" - when I'm receiving and answering messages, do some research on the net, etc. All of them are only transitory, they disappear after a short or after a longer period of time. But think of a naive user who believes what is shown to him, opens his case to look for his soundcard, downloads a new AV program or does heavy connection analysis without any reason.

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Wed, 17 Jun 2009 12:57:54 Z

I wanted to add a bug I think I have found. This existed also in the Beta.

Basically here is the case.

About 20% of the time after my computer has locked when I go to enter my password the "ease of access" window will pop up and then when ever I hit a certain key it always comes back up and I can not in anyway prevent this from happening and enter my password.

The only way for me to get around this is.
1. Close the current window and not enter my password. Otherwise box would come back up.
2. Go to lower left "ease of access" button.
3. Click this button to open the window.
4. Click cancel as I do every other time it popped up
5. Now enter my password.

The magic key I believe this happens on is a "u" in my password.

I think this is very important as I was really surprised this carried over to the RC and would hate to see this go into the final product. To note a "q" is the first character and the "u" is the second character in my password. I'm not going to share my password though in order to help figure this out.

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Wed, 17 Jun 2009 13:03:01 Z

Possible BUG REPORT I have this Windows 7 PC connected as a pc in a domain. The issue I experienced is that when my account password had expired and required reset I never received a notice of this in Windows 7 during login. If I went over to XP I got the famous you have xx days to change your password. Went back to Windows 7 and no notification. I can't believe that no one else has noticed this and notified MS but wanted to make sure I got it in.

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Wed, 17 Jun 2009 13:09:17 Z

Annoying "feature" that has existed since Windows 95! I would love to see it go!

I would like to have the option to delete a word rather than character when I rename files in Explorer.
I press F2, go into the rename mode, hit "control" + "backspace" and a small rectangle appears after the word. This is very counter-productive as not only does it fail to delete the word, it gives me another character I have to delete the slow way.

Word, Firefox, Finder is OS X and even IE8 have this feature where CTRL + BACKSPACE = "delete word", so why can't explorer?

I would really like to see this feature included. As I rename many files a day, and having to do it by pressing backspace several times isn't appealing.

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Wed, 17 Jun 2009 14:14:18 Z

About Aero sneek peek previews:
preview include taskbar objects preview, desktop preview, alt+tab preview.
bcos the current delay takes around 2 seconds, personally, switching back and forth takes lesser time than the delay timing.
would be nice that the delay time for the 'preview' can be adjusted to individual preference. (minimum range being zero seconds, instant)

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Wed, 17 Jun 2009 21:17:25 Z

Hi!

I miss the Mini player that was in WMP 11 and the Msn icon beside the clock.

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Wed, 17 Jun 2009 23:43:18 Z

I am fan of win2000 look and i use this theme. But i noticed that the "Back" and the "Forward" buttons in windows explorer are very ugly and ridgy. Can be fixed this for RTM, please :)
The other thing is that i have no option to change Start Menu to classic look. Please, review these issues :S
And why its have no option to hide the "Show desktop" button in the right bottom corner of the screen?

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Thu, 18 Jun 2009 05:12:33 Z

Applications in Windows 7 don't respect the "don't hide the cursor while typing" setting (Wordpad, Notepad).

Paint does not feature the "Save in this format by default" checkbox like Wordpad.

Disk Cleanup uses 16x16 icon when the taskbar is in a configuration with large icons and hidden labels.

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Thu, 18 Jun 2009 05:37:29 Z

I seriously hope there will be a way to disable the taskbar thumbnail previews; it would be a big mistake were it realesed without this option.

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Thu, 18 Jun 2009 07:56:22 Z

"Help" suggestions. (1) More context help options. (2) The "help and support" function will probably, as seen in previous Windows versions and in this current RC, contain links to MS knowledge base articles. The "machine-based" translations of these articles into languages others than English are to a great extent more entertaining than helpful. The "machine" that did those translations was a toaster, I suppose. So, either go without an attempt to localize the original text, assuming that most people of today understand some basic English, anyway. Or localize the articles to satisfy a broader international community, fire the toaster and let any human being do its job. But the present solution where I must study the English original only to be able to understand my native language version can't be considered a "support" option at all.
(One of the funniest examples of the toaster's work is his interpretation of the "x" in terms like "x86" and x64". As we all know, "x" is used in many languages as a multiplicator sign, too. 3 x 4 = "3 times 4", "3 por 4", "3 veces 4", "3 mal 4". But a toaster doesn't understand what he does, so you can easily guess the correspondent "translations" of x86 and x64. Nobody told the poor machine that some things really are not meant to be translated.)

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Thu, 18 Jun 2009 13:13:37 Z

"Help" suggestions. (1) More context help options. (2) The "help and support" function will probably, as seen in previous Windows versions and in this current RC, contain links to MS knowledge base articles. The "machine-based" translations of these articles into languages others than English are to a great extent more entertaining than helpful. The "machine" that did those translations was a toaster, I suppose. So, either go without an attempt to localize the original text, assuming that most people of today understand some basic English, anyway. Or localize the articles to satisfy a broader international community, fire the toaster and let any human being do its job. But the present solution where I must study the English original only to be able to understand my native language version can't be considered a "support" option at all.
(One of the funniest examples of the toaster's work is his interpretation of the "x" in terms like "x86" and x64". As we all know, "x" is used in many languages as a multiplicator sign, too. 3 x 4 = "3 times 4", "3 por 4", "3 veces 4", "3 mal 4". But a toaster doesn't understand what he does, so you can easily guess the correspondent "translations" of x86 and x64. Nobody told the poor machine that some things really are not meant to be translated.)
Mobile AMD64 3000+, VIA Apollo K8T800 chipset, 1 G RAM, ATIRadeonMobility 9700, 20x DVDRW, C:XPSP3 (55G),D:WIN7 (25G),F:DATA (250G)

Please add Bookmarks.

Please add Table of Contents.

Please add Web-Links. (to the source those Help screens are derived from - the href=mshelp entries).

Please read this comment.

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Thu, 18 Jun 2009 16:08:17 Z

The classic Start Menu was removed from Windows 7. The 'Show Desktop' button is not removable at the moment. The classic theme most likely won't be changed for Windows 7 final release.

If you want to let the Windows 7 team know about your comments and complaints, this thread would be the best place.

-Nick

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Thu, 18 Jun 2009 16:15:15 Z

Thanks, Nick FV

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Thu, 18 Jun 2009 16:15:42 Z

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Thu, 18 Jun 2009 17:17:08 Z

I'm a bit disappointed by the lack of support for other file-systems; specifically ext3. I was running on ubuntu and figured I'd give RC1 a whirl. I like what I've seen so far, but I'm unable to mount any of my ext3 partitions. There exist 3rd-party solutions, but I would expect to see something like this internal to win7. "ext2ifs" works, but is not compatible with partitions which do not use a 128-byte inode size. "ext2fds" does not work, because RC1 will not allowed unsigned drivers to load.

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Thu, 18 Jun 2009 19:40:49 Z

Installing Win7 64bit on clean 500Gb WD drive. Chose 'Custom' install. When prompted for partition size for 1st partition chose 10gig, then added another partition of 250gig. After pressing 'Next' had noticed that I had the 250 gig highlighted instead of the 10gig partition to copy files into. 'Cancelled' the install and attempted to start over.

When I returned to the partition manager I was unable to clear the partitions I had created earlier in order to resize them. Had to resort to booting a 3rd party partition manager to delete the previously created partition table so I could start over.

Problem was twofold:
1) Recommended partition size for Win7 install does not display at the time user is requested to specify a partition size. It only displays as an error message AFTER the user has created a partition too small for the install.

2) Install time Win7 partition manager does not enable the controls to modify/clear previously created partitions. So, if the user has found out (too late) that he needs to modify his previous choices, the install will not allow it and the user is stuck unless he has the ability to devise a workaround.

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Fri, 19 Jun 2009 03:16:23 Z

I just finished with all my updates on the RC-64bit install. This is what it is running

Motherboard Intel DP35DP
2 gigs of Ram
Core2Duo 2.20
Raid-5 on three 320 g hds
Nvidia 8500 Geoforce 256mg Video card
HP Officjet Pro L7580. (Software from HP worked just fine so far)
Cannon Powershot A550

It is running really well after the updates to:
Quickbooks Pro
Office 2007 Standard

I also install Nero7 Ultmate on it but haven't had time to test that. It may not work properly.

For antivirus I am using Panda Beta made for W7.

I have gone through all the current updates for the system and all is fine.

It seems to use quite a lot of HD space compared to XP. Currently my free space is about 355g out of nearly 600. I do have some pictures and some video on the machine.

Anyways, I use this machine for busines. Even though MS warns not to put this on a production machine, I'm willing to give it a shot to see how it performs. So far good.

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Fri, 19 Jun 2009 03:23:54 Z

imho, this is a Design Flaw in 7 MC.

Windows 7 MC's Volume and Mute are currently "tied" to System Master Volume and Mute.

Windows 7 system opens a Seperate volume slider in the System Mixer for MC, when MC is opened.
MC's volume and mute should be "tied" to that seperate volume slider, and NOT directly to the system's Master Volume Slider.

Thanks

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Fri, 19 Jun 2009 03:46:13 Z

IHMO, not a design flaw.
Media Center for Vista worked the same way. MCE2k5 (XP) also tied the Media Center volume control to the system Master volume.
And, I see the logic to it.
Scenario: you have the Master volume at, say, 25%. You're watching TV, it's too quiet. You grab the remote, and start turning up the volume (in Media Center.) You continue to do so until MC is at 100% volume. You ask yourself "why's it still so quiet? It's turned all the way up!?!"
You and I might realize that it's because the Master volume is turned way down; I'd be highly annoyed at having to get up, alt-tab (or window MC) to the desktop, and turn the Master volume up.
Joe Average would assume that his Media Center is broken.

I do, however, see a logic to separating the Mute control from the Master mute.

If you want to make this a suggestion, post it here:
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That thread is periodically mined and send to the devel team as feedback.

Just my $0.02,
Chris

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Fri, 19 Jun 2009 08:04:37 Z

This has bugging me for quite a while now actually, ever since Windows XP. When you take pictures with your camera an orientation flag is saved with the picture. So if you take a portrait mode picture the picture is still saved in landscape but upon opening the correct orientation is shown. Almost *ALL* picture viewers respect this setting (even picasa photo viewer, let's not even talk about Photoshop, and any flavour of KDE/Gnome since ages), except the built-in windows viewer (and explorer).

I thought this would be fixed by the release of Windows7, but still nothing. Yes, I can rotate the pictures, but then everywhere else the picture is rotated wrongly and I have to rotate back. Can this really small improvement be added?

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Fri, 19 Jun 2009 11:00:20 Z

Not sure if this issue has been highlighted before. On whole, Windows 7 is running very well on Thinkpad T60. However, just discovered an issue with the search function:

From an explorer window I clicked on magnifying glass to carry out an advanced search;
Selected date modified search filter and then today's date. I did not enter any keywords;
Search brings up list of files but, as soon as I click on a file in the results pane, explorer crashes.

Explorer crashes every time I try the same search.

Regards

Liam

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Fri, 19 Jun 2009 14:53:18 Z

How about adding min/max to the jump list, but keeping it in one row? Like this:

These buttons would work on all that app's windows, and for individual windows there's always right-click on the thumbnail.

Regards,
Kristaps.

P.S.: Epic shoop is epic.

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Fri, 19 Jun 2009 15:25:26 Z

How about adding min/max to the jump list, but keeping it in one row? Like this:

Regards,
Kristaps.

P.S.: Epic shoop is epic.

i think thats a great idea for applications that are not grouped at the time. for applications that are grouped, there should just be a "close all" option and a "minimize all" option. but when they are all minimized or when to many of them are minimized, the "minimize all" option in the jump list should disapear. and the "minimize all" option should not appear untill after there are about at least 4 programs or sub-programs or whatever to a group, like 4 instances of firefox all being shoved together under one icon and the 4 instances being 4 seperated tabs or 4 actual instances just being 4 seperate windows.

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Fri, 19 Jun 2009 15:35:11 Z

I just finished with all my updates on the RC-64bit install. This is what it is running

Motherboard Intel DP35DP
2 gigs of Ram
Core2Duo 2.20
Raid-5 on three 320 g hds
Nvidia 8500 Geoforce 256mg Video card
HP Officjet Pro L7580. (Software from HP worked just fine so far)
Cannon Powershot A550

It is running really well after the updates to:
Quickbooks Pro
Office 2007 Standard

I also install Nero7 Ultmate on it but haven't had time to test that. It may not work properly.

For antivirus I am using Panda Beta made for W7.

I have gone through all the current updates for the system and all is fine.

It seems to use quite a lot of HD space compared to XP. Currently my free space is about 355g out of nearly 600. I do have some pictures and some video on the machine.

Anyways, I use this machine for busines. Even though MS warns not to put this on a production machine, I'm willing to give it a shot to see how it performs. So far good.

i think a lot of people are using Windows 7 full time even though microsoft says not to. i use nero 8 over nero 7 and it works great. and your right about the hard drive space there does seem to be a lot more over XP in some ways.

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Fri, 19 Jun 2009 16:24:52 Z

EDIT: These buttons would work on all that app's windows, and for individual windows there's always right-click on the thumbnail. ;)

Regards,
Kristaps.

P.S.: Epic shoop is epic.

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Fri, 19 Jun 2009 18:32:35 Z

I did a clean install of Windows 7, about a week ago, with only the drivers downloaded by the installer. The first day everything ran smoothly, but after that things went dowhile... I experience two (2) to five (5) or six (6) freezes a day.

For a release candidate to freeze randomly is very VERY bad. I thought that it was out of Beta. This serious bug should be corrected and a fix available for download ASAP. I seriously doubt that I am the only one, or even the first to report it.

I really REALLY want to like Windows 7. When it runs, it runs very smoothly and even faster that the previous OS (Windows XP SP3) on my 6+ year old machine! But again, this should be priority number one to fix. As Microsoft expect feedback from users, they should make sure the users won't get fed up with all these freezes and just drop testing Windows 7, and wait for the official release, or even better, wait for SP1...

But in typical Microsoft's behavior, it will be ignored. Looks more and more like the Vista quagmire!!!

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Fri, 19 Jun 2009 19:23:36 Z

I did a clean install of Windows 7, about a week ago, with only the drivers downloaded by the installer. The first day everything ran smoothly, but after that things went dowhile... I experience two (2) to five (5) or six (6) freezes a day.

For a release candidate to freeze randomly is very VERY bad. I thought that it was out of Beta. This serious bug should be corrected and a fix available for download ASAP. I seriously doubt that I am the only one, or even the first to report it.

I really REALLY want to like Windows 7. When it runs, it runs very smoothly and even faster that the previous OS (Windows XP SP3) on my 6+ year old machine! But again, this should be priority number one to fix. As Microsoft expect feedback from users, they should make sure the users won't get fed up with all these freezes and just drop testing Windows 7, and wait for the official release, or even better, wait for SP1...

But in typical Microsoft's behavior, it will be ignored. Looks more and more like the Vista quagmire!!!

You are probably more tech friendly than I but here goes. I have tried the W7beta on VMware via XPprosp3 and through VirtualBox via Fedora10 and found it installed really well as a virtual machine. What I know to be true about all OSs is that they need to be able to talk to the mother board and other hardware. Now, I have the 64bitRC running full time. That is why, before installing any other software after the new OS we do these things:

1. Clean install of OS (W7)
2. Get latest drivers and Bios recommended by our hardware
3. Reboot
4. Get all updates possible for the system
5. Install preferred software
6. Update preferred software

I'm still learning about how to use W7. With a good machine as a foundation, W7 works pretty well. Generally, I have found that most all software that works on Vista will work with W7. If the W7 does not run something, try right clicking on the Icon and tell it to Run as Administrator. This usually works on quality software. In my case, though, Nero 7 does not work. Nor does Avast Home Edition to my knowledge so that is why I'm trying Panda.

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Fri, 19 Jun 2009 22:55:48 Z

Why? How would you switch windows (many windows, one application) without them? [apart from using alt+tab].
And why would you want to disable them?

Regards,
Kristaps.

P.S.: Epic shoop is epic.

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Fri, 19 Jun 2009 23:14:56 Z

Hello, i've been a Dedicated Windows user all my life, and recently, i've tried using Ubuntu, i've turned back to Windows, and decided to try out Windows 7, I love every bit of it, the speed, the new Task Bar, everything. But the animations.

On Ubuntu, there's a feature called Wobbly Windows, when you move a window, it sort of wobbles. I think it's really cool and quite fun to do when you're bored, or waiting for something to load.

Also, on Ubuntu, and other Linux Distro's, theres the Desktop Cube, you press a button on your keyboard, and you switch to this cube and you can change windows, or open up a new desktop to run things from. So effectivley, you'll have one desktop with Firefox open on Google, and you could have another desktop with Internet Explorer on bing, and you can alternate between the two, via a stroke of a key, and you wont see them on the other ones desktop.

I love the new snapping effect, and when you shake a window, all the others close and your current one stays open ;)

Anyhow, these are just a few idea's i thought i'd bring to the community and possibly for officials to read and take underwing.

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Fri, 19 Jun 2009 23:15:03 Z

Also, i've just noticed, on Linux and Mac, when you open GIMP/Photoshop, there isn't just a grey background, you can move things around and the grey background is transparent, I like this feature, and i was wondering if it was Software based or OS based.

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Sat, 20 Jun 2009 01:07:54 Z

It would be nice if we could drag&drop files on Windows Explorer 's Jump List 's pinned folders to move/copy the files to that folder.

Regards,
Kristaps.

P.S.: Epic shoop is epic.

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Sat, 20 Jun 2009 01:37:03 Z

This isnt a question by any means .. more of a complaint about nvidia corp and their drivers .. for starters i am a certified PC Tech/NetAdmin ... WIN 7 is absolutley amazing, when run on a COMPLETE ATI/AMD system .. FLAWLESS SET-UP ... runs AMAZEING .. drivers set-up is a breeze. ATI/AMD have been quick on the draw to make newer updated drivers as well as suggestions on how to make older ATI/AMD products work withing the WIN 7 enviroment (i.e. tv tuners/graphics cards and mother boards) /... as a test i have 1 ATI/AMD MOBO and 1 NVIDIA/AMD MOBO ...WIN 7 set-up and installed amazeing fast and easy on the ATI/AMD system ... on the NVIDIA system however .. has been nothing but a problem with drivers crashing (especially nvidia's MCP LAN) been a pain in my rear it has. I give props to both microsoft and AMD/ATI for this deal ... nvidia however, needs to do some more work. and both MOBO's have been tested on Vista and xp and ran fine there, just the nvidia board has issues with WIN 7. But, all that said, Micosoft and ATI/AMD and ECS still have my FULL support and and thanks for their hard dillegent work for all of us out here, Techs and non-tech's alike. Thanks guys, KEEP UP THE AWESOME AMAZING WORK!

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Sat, 20 Jun 2009 02:19:24 Z

Dunno, I have an Intel CPU + ASUS mboard + nVidia GPU and all the drivers came with Win7 (no need to install anything, Win7's drivers even better that ASUS' ^^) and no errors whatsoever ;)

Regards,
Kristaps.

P.S.: Epic shoop is epic.

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Sat, 20 Jun 2009 03:05:19 Z

this is more of a feature request than a comment. You know how how Windows 7 has Microsoft .net Framwork 3.5 framework built into the operating system, well i think Windows 7 should have Microsoft .net 1.1 framework built into the operating system as well.

I say this for a few reasons. One reason is that the .net v1.1 framework is seperate from the .net 2.0 version frameworks and above (v2.0, v3.0, v3.5, 4.0). Another reason is that the 1.x .net framework is included on Windows XP installation CD, but sadly it is not installed. Another reason is that some of the OEM software I use require the use of the Microsoft 1.1 .net framewok and without it being installed it just makes it extra work for me to install an addtional application and its updates. also a few of my older applications require the use of the Microsoft .net v1.1 framework and if it is not installed, they will just install it themselves, same with my OEM applications.

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Sat, 20 Jun 2009 05:58:17 Z

Problem:
Because Win7(Vista) 'All Programs' menu area too small.
improve All Programs menu in Start Menu,
like serach results, get a big area.

PS. many WinXP user hate Vista Start Menu, Microsoft must confront this problem.

Solution:
improve All Programs menu in Start Menu,
like serach results, get a big area.

View snapshot:
http://www.windows7taskforce.com/thumb/All_Programs_menu_get_a_big_area.png/x/560

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Sat, 20 Jun 2009 06:57:28 Z

This isnt a question by any means .. more of a complaint about nvidia corp and their drivers .. for starters i am a certified PC Tech/NetAdmin ... WIN 7 is absolutley amazing, when run on a COMPLETE ATI/AMD system .. FLAWLESS SET-UP ... runs AMAZEING .. drivers set-up is a breeze. ATI/AMD have been quick on the draw to make newer updated drivers as well as suggestions on how to make older ATI/AMD products work withing the WIN 7 enviroment (i.e. tv tuners/graphics cards and mother boards) /... as a test i have 1 ATI/AMD MOBO and 1 NVIDIA/AMD MOBO ...WIN 7 set-up and installed amazeing fast and easy on the ATI/AMD system ... on the NVIDIA system however .. has been nothing but a problem with drivers crashing (especially nvidia's MCP LAN) been a pain in my rear it has. I give props to both microsoft and AMD/ATI for this deal ... nvidia however, needs to do some more work. and both MOBO's have been tested on Vista and xp and ran fine there, just the nvidia board has issues with WIN 7. But, all that said, Micosoft and ATI/AMD and ECS still have my FULL support and and thanks for their hard dillegent work for all of us out here, Techs and non-tech's alike. Thanks guys, KEEP UP THE AWESOME AMAZING WORK!

Jayphillips -

Funny... I've got an older AMD mobo - a Gigabyte board with an Nforce 4 chipset - AND an Nvidia GeForce 7300 GS based video card - and oddly enough, Windows 7 RC runs like a champ. No problems with video, networking, nothing..

Maybe it's the chipset... Maybe I'm just plain lucky..? I don't know. But I agree, Win 7 rocks..

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Sat, 20 Jun 2009 07:04:25 Z

I would like to see a media player playlist like in media center or the chance to "play all" in one folder

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Sat, 20 Jun 2009 11:53:32 Z

this is clearly microsoft doing what they want and not what users want:
https://connect.microsoft.com/WindowsServerFeedback/feedback/ViewFeedback.aspx?FeedbackID=313066
"Introduced in Windows XP, the ability to expand a folder by clicking anywhere on its name in the left area of windows explorer (the folder tree) dramatically increased productivity"

please comment if you miss the xp-style folder tree expanding on vista and windows seven

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Sat, 20 Jun 2009 14:22:17 Z

Win 7 rocks..

钢筋混凝土 (Reinforced Concrete)

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Sat, 20 Jun 2009 15:18:03 Z

aufgegeben.

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Sat, 20 Jun 2009 19:56:34 Z

Ok I'm adding my 2 cents here. Having installed the beta version upon release, first on an old "Dell" laptop and then on a newer "eMachine" the beta was perfect for the dell that really didn't have any hardware upgrades except for some ram and it ran perfectly after having to search for some compatable drivers for a Vista platform, I should have written them down but if took me hours and days to get that working. LOL, still no issues after that.

On the eMachine it worked like a champ, having the latest hardware upgrades added to it before installing the beta. I didn't run into any problems and I was amazed because I had refused to upgrade any of the 2 PC's and 4 Laptops I have around the house to Vista, they were all running XP up until I used one laptop and one pc to run beta for testing.

As with any software changes some things change and some remain the same. I miss Outlook and a few other changes on the RC, but I'll get over it. No complaints so far, I had so many with Vista that it just wasn't worth the energy to change any of my OS's on my computers. So the other day I decided to upgrade to 7 RC on the eMachine PC, ran like a champ again, CPU was lower and my computer was just running smoother than usual.

This morning I wake up, turn on the machine and sat there waiting, I'm thinking oh boy, here we go and then an all black screen with a message telling me it was installing "UPDATES", my first thought was ok, lets just wait and see and then it reboots itself after finishing. It starts back up and then goes into splash screen but it's telling me my system was not shut down properly and it goes into the RC version of scanning the pc for problems, and I sat and waited, but this time was different, it went into another screen and I clicked on other options to give me details of what the scan found. As I suspected it might have been a program I installed, I scrolled down to see everything was fine and ok until the last line for the Registry, I knew it, it was a problem with the registry, I suspected the Antivirus I put on it was the culprit, when it was finished, it rebooted itself and started up perfectly.

I proceeded to Uninstall the AV, the program said it was Windows 7 compatable, but the conflicts had to do with a registry change and the RC didn't like it at all. For that I'm in love with RC even more, I think this is going to work out for me as opposed to the Vista and the hated XP, it took me YEARS to get everything to behave like I wanted it too with the xp and I just was NOT going to go through that anymore with VISTA, but I think they're finally getting it right with Windows 7.

I'm no IT Tech, Just a stay at home mom who enjoys and loves the latest and newest technology. In my honest opinion, Please just work out the kinks before releasing the fnished product. They're saying October 22nd, but seeing that I didnt have problems with the beta except for the compatability issues, and then non of that with the RC, I would like for you all to tweek it some more and then we won't have all of those special packs, because you didnt get it right the first time.

Thanks

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Sat, 20 Jun 2009 20:59:15 Z

Dear "stay at home mom",

please excuse me but I'm not the youngest guy around and have some problems to read those contiguous text masses. If you're content with the RC, fine. If you noticed any problems that should be solved, I would be glad to help you. But try to be a bit more precise in saying what worries you. At the moment, I'm just overwhelmed by that triple text burger.

Mobile AMD64 3000+, VIA Apollo K8T800 chipset, 1 G RAM, ATIRadeonMobility 9700, 20x DVDRW, C:XPSP3 (55G),D:WIN7 (25G),F:DATA (250G)

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Sun, 21 Jun 2009 01:29:36 Z

Windows media center shows the titlebar when it is not maximized. It looks truly ugly. Can we please get rid of it? Or make it autohide?

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Sun, 21 Jun 2009 02:05:28 Z

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Sun, 21 Jun 2009 09:10:09 Z

Deleted.

Me too. Often. But without a trace.

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Sun, 21 Jun 2009 11:43:30 Z

This is more a comment abour windows 7 RC... I have it installed and it seems to be working great EXCEPT that I can not use my printer a Lexmark 7675 all in one. HOWEVER I hae been able to install and use a HP C5550 all in one printer successfully. For the most part I have nothing but favorable comments about WINDOWS 7 RC and I am looking forward to the relase date of October 22, 2009 and will defentily upgrade to WINDOWS 7.

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Sun, 21 Jun 2009 12:49:17 Z

http://www.windows7taskforce.com/view/2095

[suggestion #4] improve color layout for currently using task icon

Problem:
Taskbar color layout too bad.
If you using light color desktop background, you will don't know what is the using task icon.
Its brightness too high, so looks too blurred when light color desktop background.
Currently using task icon is recognize hard when light color desktop background.

Solution:
improve color layout for currently using task icon

view snapshot:
http://www.windows7taskforce.com/thumb/improve_color_layout_for_using_task_icon.png/x/560

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Sun, 21 Jun 2009 14:25:44 Z

Regarding fuchueh's taskbar images, Yes, the bottom-most image reminds me:

IE8's Tabs start out the same baby-blue as the MenuBar. They are difficult to distinguish.

IE8's New Tab screen with hazy-sky motif causes me to gaze off at infinity, instead of focusing on its text.

(These are both objections.)

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Sun, 21 Jun 2009 15:17:05 Z

jeremy,

Have you tried manually installing the drivers for your printer from Lexmark's website in compatibility mode for Windows XP or Windows Vista? To do this, right click on the program .exe and open the Properties menu, then navigate to the compatibility tab and select "Run this program in compatibility mode for..."

-Alex

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Sun, 21 Jun 2009 16:46:32 Z

I'm finding that Libraries are nice but in Media Player, I'd like to be able to see the different types of Video Libraries I have in Media Player. I have "Music Videos" and "Home Videos" and when I open Media Player and click on Videos on the left pane, I'd like to see "Music Videos" and Home Videos" listed under the Videos Library. The closest workaround is to customize the naviation pane under Videos and select Folder but this is an extra step that I'd prefer not to take.

The same suggestion also applies to Music, Pictures, and Recored TV. The presumption that the Library should group everything by default is fine but you definetly should include the option to show the sources within the Library.

From Media Player in Vista, I like the Now Playing tab and I would often select some music to play, click on this tab, then minimize the media player. Under Windows 7, having to remember to click ong View - Now Playing or Ctrl + 3 is more than I'd like. I'd really like to see this tab/button make a come back.

OS: Windows Vista 32 w/SP1 CPU: Intel Core 2 CPU 6600 @ 2.40GHz (2 CPUs) RAM: 2046MB RAM GPU: GeForce GTX 260 SND: Creative X-Fi Titanium Fatality Pro HDD: 80GB

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Sun, 21 Jun 2009 18:11:56 Z

Windows Explorer... again...

When you select some files on a window, the status line shows "Date modified" (????) but ¡not the size! It is incredible.

I really like Windows 7, but the explorer (and IE8 sucks too) is really a step back if you compare it with XP.

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Mon, 22 Jun 2009 03:39:52 Z

taskbar icon size issue: got some screenshots uploaded.

1. when the icon view of your toolbar is 'small':

see the big space?

2. that space is quite ugly, so we tend to use 'large' icons:

see another space?

3. now, when u 'Use small icons' for task bar, you will notice that your system clock...

yes, have somemore spaces.

4. then you go on to adjust your gadgets, and you notice that...

yes, more spaces...

5. finally, now you open many windows to do your work, and you notice that...

hmmm, guess which windows is currently running...?

6. oh yah, please put the standby programs like messenger, media device etc to notification area.

as you can see, having 2 of such stuff is wasting half of the taskbar area. imagine 1 or 2 more.

I have no issue with the speed/performance. so far things work splendidly for me. but the designing...

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Mon, 22 Jun 2009 04:27:19 Z

When I initially install the 64bit RC, I mentioned that it was a space hog. What I did not know was that W7 installed over, kind of like envoloping the old XP installation. This made my C: drive look totatlly hogged. I recently ran the Disk Cleaner program and freed up about 150 gigs of space that was occupied by the old XP OS. Pretty cool. I reclaimed a ton of space. I am now running disk defrag to complete my disc reclaimation process.

The steps I did to get this far were pretty simple. Install, update, install apps and drivers, update aps and drivers, disc clean, disc defrag. Hopefully, all will run well. Oh, I started with the Panda Anti Virus but was notified by Windows Security that it was no longer comunicating proper with the system. So, I uninstalled Panda and switched to Bulldog. I turned off everything on Bulldog except for the AntiVirus. Everything works great so far.

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Mon, 22 Jun 2009 04:37:24 Z

I should also say that I am retracting the assumption that W7 eats up disc space as I was able to reclaim it. I'm loving W7 and will certainly purchase it when it comes out. I am planning to upgrade my processor to a higher rated Core 2Duo or Quad in the future. I also am looking to get more ram and upgrade my video card. I'm hoping W7 handles the upgrages well.

W764RC (WEI is 4.6) Intel DP35DP Core 2Duo 2.20 Evga Nvidia 8500 256meg HP Officejet Pro L7580 Raid 5 with 3x 320g HDs Office 2007 Standard QuickBooks Pro 2007 eSword Latest Edition Steam America's Army via Steam Voyage Century

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Mon, 22 Jun 2009 06:14:24 Z

After I retired my Commodore 64 and Amiga A500+ in 1993-4, I made a conscious decision to go the IBM/Microsoft route.

I started with Windows 3.1 and MS-DOS 6.22 (the best DOS ever).

Since then, I've used all Windows variants as far back as Windows 1, and this one (Win 7 RC) is definitely the pick of them.

THIS is what Win98SE/Win ME SHOULD have been.

I loved XP when it had been properly tweaked (still running it on the desktop machine), Vista not so much.

Reading these four threads, it becomes obvious to me, that there are four types of Win 7 users:

a/. Newbies, therefore clueless. They can be helped.

b/. Stick-in-the-mud luddites. No hope for you lot.

c/. IT workers, who are locked into what their boss wants. Not much hope for them, or their users.

d/. Techies like me, who just LOVE to play with a new OS.

I am c/d.

Most of the things that you are bitching about not being in Win 7, ARE in there, they just aren't where you'd normally expect to find them.

Most of the things that are not, we won't miss, or can get around using 3rd-party software.

This is where EXPERIENCE comes in.

I have Quick Launch AND 'fly-out' menus, the options ARE in there, but you WILL have to experiment.

This is well over half the fun of getting a new OS, IMNSHO.

MY OPINION: Well done, Microsoft, this is the best you've done since Windows 98SE (A GREAT OS, still using it on my old PentiumII, 384Mb, 2Gb HDD, 64Mb S3 Titan, which will run XP).

ONE RECOMMENDATION: Why no DOS emulator built-in?

NOT a C/: prompt, but a PROPER DOS box (6.22) running under Windows, with SoundBlaster emulation, etc.

We want it, you supply it, Microsoft!

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Mon, 22 Jun 2009 06:36:05 Z

And to many of you:-

Why are you even USING Win 7?

Many of you could never even get the way the original build of Windows 95 worked.

STAY AWAY from anything more advanced .

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Mon, 22 Jun 2009 06:52:00 Z

About a week ago I've told you about a problem I have with my mouse - right click not working, left click has also right click on it. I've presumed at that time it wa an accident during Corel Video Studio freeze. But it was not an accident. During last week this happened again and again, each time after an program stopped working. But not only Video Studio, but it happened on Virtual Dub, Total Commander, AND yesterday WMP12. 4 times in a week. In fact what are the simptoms. Well Right click is dead or almost - I can see for a millisecond borders of the right click window and that's all. Wheel not working also. But when I left click once in Total Commander OR Windows Explorer - if I have 10 folder in list view and I click on the 6th folder from up to down it select all the first 6 folders. If I double click this folder I can open it. If there are 10 files and I click the 6th file it select all the first 6 files, but when double click on it I got an error opening file. This is just an example -it happened same thing if I have 100 folders or files and I click on any of it. Also it happened on the desktop - it select all the icons on the top of teh mouse pointer. Also some keys on the keyboard don't work ( like Enter, Ctrl, Alt, Tab... ) I have an presumptio about the cause, but not sure yet. About 10 days ago If I remember well I've update through Windows Update with about 5 updates. I think it was also an Microsoft Keyboard and Mouse Update. And I have an Microsoft Fingerprint Reader Keyboard and a Wireless Optical Mouse 2.0. I've noticed also checking the Reliability Monitor, that until 10 days ago, I've got only one program stopping, since I have installed 7100 build ( same day you launch it ). But in the last 10 days I've got at least 2 by day. Also I have a problem with the transfer rate on a network. I've read about some complaints about the transfer speed on my forum and I've decided to make a test at home, making an network between my laptop and the computer with W7. I've got the same result as the one in those complaints - an speed of 400-450 kB/s when transfering files betweent them. Using SAME configuration in XP I have an average speed 10 times bigger ( I have XP on same computer on an different partition ). The laptop has XP Home on it. My network card is a INTEGRATED nVidia nForce card, chipset is 6150. In those complaints the solution was to install an PCI network card. I cannot test this, but I believe the problem resides in the drivers used for the integrated card ( installed by W7 ).

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Mon, 22 Jun 2009 12:46:50 Z

Reading these four threads, it becomes obvious to me, that there are four types of Win 7 users:

a ......
b ......
c ......
d ......

ONE RECOMMENDATION: Why no DOS emulator built-in?

NOT a C/: prompt, but a PROPER DOS box (6.22) running under Windows, with SoundBlaster emulation, etc.

Why stop there? How about a modernized stand-alone DOS. It would be useful for debugging, recovery and enthusiast/tech programming.

But, Max T, you've overlooked a 5th type user. Competent individuals who are offended by characterizations a-d.

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Mon, 22 Jun 2009 13:34:26 Z

Just a couple of comments/observations about the win 7 explorer, sorry if these are repeats, I've just installed win 7 and I'm not reading the million other posts in this 4 page thread!

If I select a bunch of files in explorer, I get a useful total file size in the status pane at the bottom, unless one of the selected files is a URL object, in which case the total file size vanishes.

Right clicking in the explorer address bar brings up the following 4 options, 3 of which seem to be useless...

Copy address
Copy address as text (useful!)
Edit address
Delete history

Copy address is useless! If you select copy address, then alt tab to an application, select file/open and then CTRL-V to paste the address and hit enter to go there (as you could in Vista or XP) it won't work, because Copy Address adds quotation marks around the address "C:\whatever".

Copy address as text works as normal, and also works when you paste the address into explorer windows. I'm not aware of any situation where copy address is better than copy address as text.

Edit address is the same as left clicking in the address bar, so it's essentially a 2 click option for a 1 click operation.

Delete history - why would you need this? You can just close the window.

I'd prefer if the clutter was removed from thsi right click menu, and copy address was the only option, but that it worked as copy address as text currently works, ie without putting quotes around addresses.

And lastly an observation about color scheme customization. I always liked how you could customize the colors in win95 and 98, so I always thought XP looked horrible until the Zune theme came out. This was the first time Windows actually looked good. Since I found the Zune XP theme, I've used it on all of my computers. It would be great if you could actually customize the Aero theme somewhat. Just changing the tint of the window frames and task bar isn't enough. I hate the power-blue color in menus and the explorer window. Why can't I change that color?

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Mon, 22 Jun 2009 14:31:23 Z

I typically run from a limited user and elevate applications as needed. I would like the ability to make administrator elevated windows a different color (hopefully with the colorization matching on the taskbar display). This would make elevated processes/applications much more identifiable with say working with multiple command windows.

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Mon, 22 Jun 2009 15:33:56 Z

Just to report a couple issues I have had with the install of Windows 7 RC. I installed as an upgrade from Vista on an HP desktop, dual core 2 quad. I have a LOT of programs installed with 167 entries on my Start menu. The install seemed to go fine other than the fact that the install took over 6 hours with most of that in the "bringing over programs and settings" mode. The install complete normally and everything looked fine, but when I clicked on "All Programs" on the Start menu, the programs menu came up completely blank.

The only other problem seen was that my sound device (a Presonus Firestudio Project) was not detected. This is a firewire device for sound recording and playback. I have the Vista drivers install, but perhaps they don't work for Windows 7 for some reason.

Anyway, I have reverted to Vista from a system backup I made so all is well for the time being.

I did install Windows 7 RC on my HP laptop which uses the internal sound card a much smaller number of programs install. The install went fine and everything worked on that one. All in all, I like Windows 7 a lot.

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Mon, 22 Jun 2009 16:27:21 Z

Just a thought, a warning should appear when, you click on the shut down button.
As in xp, just incase you hit it accidentally.
Many thanks.

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Mon, 22 Jun 2009 17:29:23 Z

I believe there is a problem with the RC when more than 70 programs are listed in the All programs menu (seems mostly from upgrade installs). This causes it to show empty. Try to create sub folders within the programs folder or eliminate some. C:\Users\<your user name>\Appdata\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs. Appdata is a hidden file.

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Mon, 22 Jun 2009 17:48:40 Z

Not sure if there are any MS people reading these forums, but I just wanted to post some issues I have been having and let them know.
I downloaded both the x64 and x84 ISOs and started with x64.
The install would not complete the 2nd phase and stalled out during Hardware Detection (I think).
After rebooting it would say it didnt complete and start over.
Did that Dance twice and got the same result.
So at that point I pulled out my discrete video card and network card, disabled onboard Audio and then tried again.
Success! 7 RC1 x64 installed and started working.
At this point I put my video card back in and enabled audio as well.
It boots up and detects them. Installs Audio automatically and I install the latest nVidia x64 drivers for Windows 7.
I reboot and it comes right up and looks gorgeous. I proceed to download Firefox x64 and when I kick off the install the machine hangs.
I hard reboot it and after it comes back up, I can login but it basically hangs immediately and desktop actions take 5-10 minutes to complete.
Eventually the machine crashes and reboots back to XP (Dual Boot, default is XP)
I removed the nVidia card and boot it back up and it seems to behave normally.
Run Windows update and install everything offered.
Reboot and its still working.
Shutdown and re-install the nVidia card and it comes up, stays working for about 5 minutes and then proceeds to hang.

I tried installing 7 RC1 x86 a few days ago thinking maybe its just some immaturity in a 64bit driver I was using, but that install would not complete either.
I have not bothered to yank the nVidia card back out yet.

System Specs:
ECS G31T-M v1 (Yes I know its junk)
Core2 Quad Q9550
Zalman CNPS9700 with Cooler Master Thermal Grease.
PC2-6400 4GB Kit (2x2GB) - I think its Patriot and its low latency (4-4-4-12) but that timing requires a bump in voltage that the ECS doesn't support, so I have the memory forced to 5-5-5-15 which is supported at stock DDR2 voltage. Machine is COMPLETELY stable in XP x86 and Ubuntu 9.04 x64 so I know the settings are not an issue.
XFX 9800 GTX+ 512MB
WD VelociRaptor 300 (200GB Partition 1 = XP Pro 32, 50GB Partition 2 = Win7, 50GB Partition 3 = Ubuntu 9.04. Grub is installed in Partition 3, NOT the MBR. 7's BCD is in the MBR and controlling boot)
WD 2TB Green - 1 partition for storage - NTFS
Killer K1 NIC has been removed since the initial troubleshooting done above, as there are no 7 drivers for it yet.

If any MS people need me to run any special Diags, I would be happy to oblige. I would think MPS Reports or something similar would be the place to start, but being the machine is not that stable, I am not sure if this will work.

I have stayed away from Vista and helped many friends/relatives downgrade from Vista to XP, but I am excited about 7 and would like to help to make it better so I can tell people with confidence they can go with 7 later this year.

-Casper42

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Mon, 22 Jun 2009 19:14:24 Z

BUG(?): starcraft and command & conquer 95 experience graphics corruption, but these cand be fixed with appropiate compatibility settings. however , starcraft gets corrupted again during the gameplay, albeit not much, not really in the main gameplay, but i found that this is caused by the win7 bultin desktop sliding (when it change desktop, corruption appears when in game) and maybe it will affect other games too. to be noticed.

And, I said that many ppl doesnt like that blueish menu bar color, like the one in the notepad, and now i think it should be replaced by the one that in the IE7/8 menu bar (and the other toolbars in the IE that have the same colour too). Just my suggestion, if others agree.

I dont use IE7/8 but Firefox. IE7/8 interface bling is good, but lacks desired functonality. Now I use WMP but I think about leaving it too. The same thing, great bling, but some limited productivity. I said that it does not allow mousewheel, now i dont understand that if someone needs to play/pause something, why does it need to position over that button below instead on clicking on the video (or static image if an audio). So, for someone who wants to play a lot with some content, he/she cannot keep mouse standing and only clicking the mouse's buttons/wheel, but merely trying to move it a lot and catch that play/pause button and the time slider. Just my two cents...

PS this page is so long as a pain in the ____... please.
PS2 - about IE not being included in Europe Win7: well the user install Win7, then he wants to get a browser. How ? The best thing, include it but dont install by default, the user cand add afterward from windows feature, and EU should be pleased... or put 1-2 more browsers...

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Mon, 22 Jun 2009 21:15:42 Z

Suggestion for Windows 8. Please don't forget this "registry thing". This "you have a fast new OS, and after some time the registry gets bloated and bloated again, and all gets slower and slower" thing. This thing we know since we know that - infamous registry. This "every application leaves its traces, and uninstalling the app never really uninstalls it" thing. I'm quite sure you know what I mean, and I heard you are trying better solutions for this way to save settings, to start processes, and so on. Please don't give up. The way today's registry (yes, 7's too) is managing the whole system is an outdated and only provisional arrangement that encumbers even the best kernel you may invent. Find a way to get rid of this bottleneck or change it to something better. - Why am I suggesting such a commonplace? Today I did a thorough cleanup of this incredible dump, and the difference in speed and responsiveness is just overwhelming. In 2009, if I may add that. We're not talking of complaints from ten years ago.

Mobile AMD64 3000+, VIA Apollo K8T800 chipset, 1 G RAM, ATIRadeonMobility 9700, 20x DVDRW, C:XPSP3 (55G),D:WIN7 (25G),F:DATA (250G)

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Tue, 23 Jun 2009 01:40:30 Z

I just installed Windows 7 RC in order to both evaluate it for myself and help Microsoft by submitting problems that I discover.

While installing it I discovered that the Silicon Image 3112R SATARaid controller's driver was missing from the Windows 7 installation DVD. Not a big deal to work around if you have the Vista driver, but this could be a problem for some. The Vista driver worked perfectly with Windows 7 during the installation. The driver is available through Windows Update or an "on-line" driver update, but this doesn't help when trying to install Windows 7.

How do I submit feedback? I searched everywhere I could think of, including the Microsoft Connect site (I have participated in other beta programs in the past) but couldn't find anywhere to submit feedback for Windows 7. I also couldn't find anywhere to join the Windows 7 beta program.

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Tue, 23 Jun 2009 04:12:59 Z

I have one little complaint. The caption icons (minimize, maximize,close buttons) do not fit the current visual style (aero). And, may I add, they are very very ugly. Granted that taste is a very relative thing, I still feel that most would agree that these icons are hideous and pretty much outdated.
On an active window, close button/icon is always red and it stands out a lot, which distracts user's attention. It will be really nice if the developers can pay attention to these fine details.

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Tue, 23 Jun 2009 05:55:01 Z

windows media player 'preview' function:

When it's in details mode:

clearly, the position of the preview window is wrong...

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Tue, 23 Jun 2009 08:16:20 Z

Hi,

Please post the feedback on the forum. My colleagues and I will check them and report it by our internal channel.

Thanks.

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Tue, 23 Jun 2009 08:59:11 Z

I have seen reports that the problem described in http://support.microsoft.com/kb/898630 is still present in Windows 7, and worse, that the new touchscreen facilities make it very difficult to use the workarounds used in that article.

This problem was always related to the tablet functionality in Windows (I know, because I was the person who originally verified the origin of this problem and I have also been able to verify that it is the tablet functionailty on Vista that causes the same problem on many desktops now).

The question is, can the cause be identified and fixed prior to Win 7 release? This problem is likely to affect an even larger group of users on Windows 7 than it does on tablet/Vista, using probably one of the most-used parts of Word Mailmerge, namely merge to labels.

Unfortunately I am not currently in a position to verify this problem myself but can try to do so if necessary.

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Tue, 23 Jun 2009 09:55:54 Z

Would you prefer me to start a new thread about the issue or have you already made note of it from my original post?

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Tue, 23 Jun 2009 10:10:19 Z

Posting any feedback on original post is fine.

Thanks.

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Tue, 23 Jun 2009 10:24:37 Z

Feature requests-

    System Wide Changes

1. Spellchecker and spelling correction tool.

2. Dictionary(might be taken care of with accelerators but should be able to work offline).

3. Windows Key+ mouse click and drag anywhere on a window to move the window without having to click and drag on the caption bar.

    Start Menu Changes

1. Add calculator functionality to the search bar.

2. Add dictionary functionality to the search bar, E.g. "Define <word>" shows definition to the <word> in the search results area.

3. Show preview thumbnails of highlighted search results.

    Taskbar Changes

1. Allow Recycle Bin, Computer, Games, and Control panel to be pinned to the taskbar as standalone icons with their own jumplists.

2. Allow Folders to be pinned to the taskbar as standalone icons without them just being links in a jumplist.

3. Include option to disable wireless card from the System Tray. Different than disconnecting from a network.

4. Include option to show the day(Sun, Mon, Tue...etc) with the time and date in the System Tray.

5. Ctrl+right click should bring up a program's options like "Run as Administrator" and "Properties."

6. Mouseover previews should stack up so they don't turn into a list with no thumbnail after such a small amount of
instances/tabs/documents open.

    Control Panel Changes

1.Completely reorganize control panel so it can show all icons in a catagorized view. Consolidate where able to promote a minimal yet functional menu, E.g. OS X System Preferences.

2.Keep codecs/plugins/drivers seperate from programs/apps in the unistall programs menu for better organization.

3.Try to keep system links from opening new windows like "Date and Time" or "Device Manager." They should be opened within the same Explorer window that links to them.

    Windows Explorer Changes

1. Add tabs.

2. Enable drag and dropping onto the breadcrumbs in the address bar.

3. Add more default Preview Handlers.

4. Add zoom function inside the preview pane for images.

5. Allow animated .gifs and .pngs to be shown correctly in the preview pane.

6. Include functionality to mount .ISO and other popular image files.

7. Add Indexing option in Folder Properties. It's currently a pain to add new folders to Index.


    Aero Changes

1. Add Caption Bar to the Alt-Tab thumbnails including the close buttons to stay consistant with the new taskbar thumbnails and increase functionality.

2. Alt-Tab thumnails should be larger.

3. Alt-F4 and Win-F4 should work to close programs with Alt-Tab, Win-Tab and the new taskbar switcher.

4. Alt-Q and Win-Q should cycle backwords in the Alt-Tab and Win-Tab switcher.

5. Turn Win-Tab into a Virtual Desktop switcher. Alt-Tab + Aero Peek is more than adequate for an application switcher and there is really nothing that Win-Tab currently offers that is useful.

6. Change GUI styling to a more minimalist design. Huge borders are ugly and a large drop shadow is all that is needed for window resizing and a buffer area between folders and applications. A borderless window also creates a seemingly larger work environment.


    Program Installation Changes

1. Create a standard streamlined installation proccess that is smart enough to do away with most of the annoying steps(E.g. would you like to install? next. Standard or advanced? next. Would you like to add a desktop shortcut? next. Would you like to install *insert name* toolbar?).

2. Registry usage should be more strict in order for it to keep its integrity. People shouldn't feel the need to have a registry cleaner for getting leftovers after uninstalls.

3. Promote the use of Config files over the Registry for most installs for portability and easier and cleaner uninstalls.

    Windows Photo Viewer Changes

1. Show animated .gifs and .pngs correctly.

    Windows Update Changes

1. Automatic update should not automatically restart the computer unless/until the user and the users programs are idle. It's a huge inconvenience to have a download interrupted because Automatic Updates decided I was done with what I was doing.

    Gadgets Changes

1. Hotkey(s) to toggle "Show desktop gadgets" on and off.

2. Include sidebar as an option because many people get use out of keeping Gadgets in a seperate workspace.

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Tue, 23 Jun 2009 11:20:25 Z

Criko -

Some of what you're asking for is already there... For instance:

In the catagory of Taskbar changes, you requested the Control Panel be an icon of it's own on the task bar. It already can be done. Click the Control Panel open on the Start Menu. Once you've got it open - right-click on the open icon and pin it to the task bar. DONE.

Also from the Taskbar catagory - showing the day of the week on the system tray - it's actually already there. Right-click on the task bar (not on an icon) and click on Lock the task bar to remove the check. Grab the top of the task bar with your mouse and drag it UP one notch. Note the day of the week. Ok... It's not the greatest solution - now the taskbar eats up another chunk of real estate... But it's there.

Under the catagory of Control Panel related items - they already have something along those lines. If you click on the drop-down at the top right corner and select Catagory, you get a limited list of catagories and the tasks that fit in under them.

I must say though - the concept of tabs for Windows Explorer does sound intriguing... I like the concept... It would be VERY handy when relocating files - have one drive/folder open in tab A and another in tab B. It beats having two Windows Explorer windows open by far.

From the Aero department... The whole concept of Aero Peek - where if you're alt-tabbing from app to app, if you pause on a given icon, it will show you the app in full sized. It can't get too much bigger than that.

Also from Aero - Holding down the SHIFT key when alt-tabbing or win-tabbing will rotate things backwards.

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Tue, 23 Jun 2009 12:01:07 Z

Wolfie2k6 ,

You shouldn't have to run Control Panel to pin it to the taskbar but as long as we are using poor workarounds then you can knock off my recycle bin request because it can be pinned to the taskbar using a custom toolbar.

I guess I should reword my day of the week request to changing it so it's a usable feature.

The current Control Panel Category view is a mess. Even if they just separated Small Icons view into groups but kept all icons visible it would be much better.

And as for the for larger thumbnails for Alt-Tab...It just makes for much better at a glance switching(Why do you think people love
Exposé in OS X?) and it would be consistent with the taskbar previews which are much larger.

Thanks for the rotate backwords tip for Alt-Tab and Win-Tab, I will be using this a bunch :D

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Tue, 23 Jun 2009 12:23:54 Z

Team,
I am running Windows 7 64 bit and I am missing the free space indicator which used to be on the bottom of the window.

I know that when the focus was on the root of the drive it never showed the available space but when you selected a directory (i.e. C:\temp) you were shown the available disk space.

I believe that the available space should be shown at all times when selecting a drive.

Regards,

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Tue, 23 Jun 2009 17:53:43 Z

Suggestion for Windows 8. Please don't forget this "registry thing". This "you have a fast new OS, and after some time the registry gets bloated and bloated again, and all gets slower and slower" thing. This thing we know since we know that - infamous registry. This "every application leaves its traces, and uninstalling the app never really uninstalls it" thing. I'm quite sure you know what I mean, and I heard you are trying better solutions for this way to save settings, to start processes, and so on. Please don't give up. The way today's registry (yes, 7's too) is managing the whole system is an outdated and only provisional arrangement that encumbers even the best kernel you may invent. Find a way to get rid of this bottleneck or change it to something better. - Why am I suggesting such a commonplace? Today I did a thorough cleanup of this incredible dump, and the difference in speed and responsiveness is just overwhelming. In 2009, if I may add that. We're not talking of complaints from ten years ago.
Mobile AMD64 3000+, VIA Apollo K8T800 chipset, 1 G RAM, ATIRadeonMobility 9700, 20x DVDRW, C:XPSP3 (55G),D:WIN7 (25G),F:DATA (250G)

Completamente de acuerdo, mi General :D

Absolutely agree.

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Tue, 23 Jun 2009 18:10:28 Z

DrGerry-
How did you manage to "overwhelm" the registry in two months of RC availablity?

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Tue, 23 Jun 2009 18:41:41 Z

BUG REPORT

BUG: Explorer logon fails intermittently with partially loaded notification icons, non-functioning Start Menu.

Description:

This is an intermittent problem but happens consistently enough to be annoying (1 out of approx. 10 logon attempts). Every once in a while, when logging in to my account on Win7 RC, the explorer will fail to display all of the notification icons in the lower right corner. The icons which don't appear are: bluetooth, power, network, and sound. In other words, the "system" icons... In addition, when the system enters this state, the following additional symptoms are observed:

- The Start menu does not work completely. If you type in the search box, only the first character you type
is displayed, and no search is performed. Additional characters typed do not show in the search box.

- Hovering over pinned Taskbar icons do not show the normal highlight (the lines to the left and right of the icon).

- Running any program such as Task Manager results in strange display bugs. Menus left on the screen after being dismissed, client area of windows not drawing, etc.

Logging back out of the account, then logging back in will generally fix the problem, I think because the process causing the problem is killed/reset. In fact, I found that if I killed (it resarts itself) the DWM.EXE process (usually took a couple of trys) that the Start Menu functionality would come back. Thus, I think it may have something to do with DWM (Desktop Window Manager) during logon/explorer startup. You might be wondering how I killed DWM.EXE without being able to run anything from the start menu: Ctrl+Alt+Del to get to taskmgr.exe, then File.Run "procexp.exe" (Process Explorer from sysinternals.com) installed in root of C:, then (if running as standard user), File.Run As Administrator "procexp.exe" to get admin privs under Process Explorer, then use Process Explorer to kill DWM.exe.

I have observed this behavior only on one of my machines with Win7 installed (An HP dv5t). I have tried several different install scenarios, including upgrade over a Vista install approx 1 year old, upgrade over cleaned up (various crapware removed after running HP recovery to get to factory ship state) "HP Recovery" Vista install, clean install of Win7 RC x86, and clean install of Win7 RC x64. I have reproduced the problem both with all drivers applicable to the laptop and without (ie. just a clean install of Win7, standard VGA driver, stopping Windows Update from installing any drivers specific to the machine). I do not experience this problem on my desktop machine (A 6 year old Dell XPS Pentium 4 machine). Perhaps it is related to dual-core of the laptop (Intel P8600)?

Machine Configuration:

HP dv5t, Intel P8600 @2.4Ghz, 3GB RAM, 250GB HDD.

NVidia GeForce 9600M, @1680x1050 (have tried running w/ Standard VGA driver, driver from Windows Update, driver from Nvidia 186.03, and driver from HP site)

IDT Sound (drivers from Windows Update)

Wired network RealTek RTL8168, drivers from Windows Update

Bluetooth (Microsoft Bluetooth Mouse 5000), default drivers

EDIT1:

One other note: I do have multiple accounts enabled. One Administrator account: Admin, and two others that are standard users. I've seen this on all accounts.

Have Comments about Windows 7 RC? (Part 4 - Do not post questions in this thread)

Tue, 23 Jun 2009 18:44:07 Z

If you are testing - installing and removing applications, it is even possible to "overwhelm" the registry in a matter of hours or days.
And, if you are not care enough, a malware can compromise the registry in SECONDS.

Have Comments about Windows 7 RC? (Part 4 - Do not post questions in this thread)

Tue, 23 Jun 2009 19:29:11 Z

BUG: Right click hit testing in Explorer inconsistent.

To repro:

- Bring up Explorer on 'Computer'. Easiest way is to do Start -> Computer.
- Make sure you are viewing by 'Tile'
- Before left clicking on anything, mouse hover over C: drive.
- Note that you see the blue with black border indicating you are hovering over C:
- Hover over an area for C: where there is 'white' (ie. Explorer background), but where you still have the 'Tile' highlighted in blue/black border.
- Now right click in that white area.
- Note that you have the wrong context menu. You have the context menu for 'Computer' not 'C:'
- Choose Properties, just to confirm.

Expect:

- If you right click in any area which has the blue/black border you will get the context menu for that item, not the context menu for the window containing the item. In this case, that would be the context menu for 'C:' and thus 'Properties' for C:, not 'Computer'

- Selection (left-click) and Context Menu (right-click) hit-testing should be consistent.

Note:

If you select the item first with left click, you get the expected behavior. Furthermore, clicking the white space in the tile (but not the text/usage bar area) with a left click, correctly selects the item. It is just the right-click hit-test that is not correct.

Have Comments about Windows 7 RC? (Part 4 - Do not post questions in this thread)

Tue, 23 Jun 2009 21:09:55 Z

I created a New thread - Part 5 to continue this conversation and locked this thread.

Thanks for your comments!

-Tony Mann

Windows Client IT Pro Audience Manager for Web Forums, Windows Client Forum Owner