Microphone output sound delay
- Hello,
I'm a musician. Often, I plug my headphones into my laptop and listen to music. Then I plug my guitar in the microphone jack and enable the microphone sound output so I can play along with the music on my laptop. In other words, I use the laptop as a mixer.
Now with Windows 7 RC x64, the mic in output has quite some delay, between 0.5 and 1 second. The laptop is an HP 2510p with ADI SoundMax HD integrated audio.
With Windows XP, this has not been an issue.
The driver is the one that Win7 automatically got via Windows Update. I also tried the Vista x64 driver provided by HP, no difference.
As you can imagine, such a delay makes playing along songs impossible. When I strike the guitar, half a second later I hear it from the speakers.
Is there any suggestion what I could try? Change settings, regkeys, drivers?
Best regards,
Jay
Answers
Hi Jay,
This should be a driver issue. The driver update may not be installed properly. I suggest that you remove the driver, and then run Windows Update to install it again.
How to remove.
1. Click Start. In the Start Search box type "devmgmt.msc" and press Enter.
2. Expand "Sound, video and game controllers", double-click on the entry of the sound card.
3. Click the tab "Driver", click "Uninstall".
4. Click Start. In the Start Search box type "appwiz.cpl" and press Enter.
5. Remove the entries related to the display adapter.Then, I suggest that you temporary disable the anti-virus, then run Windows Update to install the audio driver.
Please understand that Windows 7 RC is for test. The drivers on Windows Update website were released by hardware manufacturer. Microsoft has tested these drivers and involved them in Windows Update. However, since currently the whole system is for test, the audio driver may be not fully compatible. It just help the device to work, but the performance may be not perfect. If the issue persists after reinstalling driver, we may need to wait for new compatible driver from hardware manufacture.
Arthur Xie - MSFT- Marked As Answer byArthur XieMSFT, ModeratorWednesday, July 22, 2009 5:37 AM
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Hi Jay,
This should be a driver issue. The driver update may not be installed properly. I suggest that you remove the driver, and then run Windows Update to install it again.
How to remove.
1. Click Start. In the Start Search box type "devmgmt.msc" and press Enter.
2. Expand "Sound, video and game controllers", double-click on the entry of the sound card.
3. Click the tab "Driver", click "Uninstall".
4. Click Start. In the Start Search box type "appwiz.cpl" and press Enter.
5. Remove the entries related to the display adapter.Then, I suggest that you temporary disable the anti-virus, then run Windows Update to install the audio driver.
Please understand that Windows 7 RC is for test. The drivers on Windows Update website were released by hardware manufacturer. Microsoft has tested these drivers and involved them in Windows Update. However, since currently the whole system is for test, the audio driver may be not fully compatible. It just help the device to work, but the performance may be not perfect. If the issue persists after reinstalling driver, we may need to wait for new compatible driver from hardware manufacture.
Arthur Xie - MSFT- Marked As Answer byArthur XieMSFT, ModeratorWednesday, July 22, 2009 5:37 AM
- I did what you said, but it didn't fix the issue. Anyway, I understand that this is still in a testing state. So, see this as a bug report ;-)
- Hello,
I'm just noting that Jay isn't the only one with this issue - I've seen it discussed on other forums (with no solution offered) and I'm also affected by this bug (using W7 RC, didn't have this problem in XP SP3). I think it's not a sound driver-specific issue but rather a more general W7 issue as it has appeared with several different sound cards (including different onboard devices) which would, by my reckoning, use different drives. Personally I use an X-Fi XtremeMusic with a guitar plugged into the microphone input and there's also a noticeable delay between me playing a note and said note being played from the speakers.
It most likely hasn't been more widely reported since most people probably don't use their computers as mixers/amplifiers. Hope it'll be fixed eventually! :) - I believe this is a problem caused by the way Windows 7 handles "through routing". While earlier versions of the mixer used the "on board" analogue mixer of the sound card, Windows 7 always digitizes analogue input and than optionally outputs it.
This AD and DA conversion causes the delay (especially because it is not optimized for real time AD-DA). I believe Microsoft had some reasons to change it, but they forgot about people like us, who need real-time mixing. Hopefully there will be some utilities available that re-enable the analogue mixing capabilities. - Hi there... I've had this problem as well, not on the beta or the RC... but on the full legal version of Win 7 Pro x64, which I bought a few days ago.... I'm a musician as well, and I really need to get rid of this lag.... any help would be greatly appreciated.. thanks!
- I am having the same problem. I am using the onboard Realtek sound card which worked fine for me in XP. I do a lot of recording through my PC and this problem is making me think I should go back to XP. I have downloaded a couple of other drivers to try but it keeps saying that my driver is already up to date. I've tried to uninstall the driver and run windows update, but the problem persists.
This Stinks!
Chris - I am having the same issue.. also a musician.. also worked fine in XP.. also onboard Realtek sound card.. I hooked my PA into my PC, so that I could play along with music that I am practicing on, and there is a slight delay between the time you hit the string and the time you hit the note.. really sucks..
- I'm sadly having the same issue. Any help would be greatly appreciated as I use my computer for this most of the time.
Thanks in advance
Admir - Same issue for me. And the delay it pretty much not acceptable.
It forces people to abandon W7 for mixing purposes. And i blamed on my soundcard ........ - sad musician here too :( everything was cool for recording til i got win 7, now im just like what to do
- As I have biostar motherboard I went
http://pcsupport.about.com/od/driverssupport/tp/windows-7-drivers.htm
then
http://www.biostar.com.tw/app/en/event/windows7/index.php
downloaded new drivers and it works perfectly. I guess every manufactor fixes the problem by himself. Just go find new drivers for the soundcard or wait for one to come out :]
( easy to say for me as I was lucky enough to solve it =P )
Good luck to you who hadn't i hope you fix the problem.
- Proposed As Answer bySalival Sunday, November 22, 2009 1:18 AM
- thats interesting if this is true you are now the first person of about 30 i've seen to have figured out a solution. i guess i'll check hp for more latest drivers. what did you install? chipset? audio?
http://scodal.com - I installed On-Board Audio driver. Works perfectly now :)
- Awesome, this didn't work for me. I used Windows Updates to update the drivers as it suggested (no difference) then I went to my laptop manufacturers website and searched this make and model and downloaded the latest audio driver and installed it TWICE just to be sure because I was really hoping it would work.
End result: Still a delay.. can't play piano
http://scodal.com
