Can't Connect to Internet
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Monday, July 06, 2009 9:01 AMHi
I am trying to connect a Windows 7 Computer to the internet
through a adsl router/modem
The modem connects my xp computer to the internet without any trouble.
This Win7 computer has actually connected 2-3 times
most of the time it will not
The network card is on the motherboard it's a VIA Rhine II Fast Ethernet Adapter
here's is some info
Under
Network
Home Network
No Interent Access
Unidentified network
Public network
No Interent Access
Under Properties
The ipv4 shows settings - obtain automatically "for all of them"
the ipv6 saids "In order to configure TCP/IP, you must install and enable a network adapter card" - obviously not seeing the adapter
even with ipv6 turned off no connection
For connection status
IPv4 Connectivity - No Internet Access
IPv6 Connectivity - No Internet Access
If i try to "Set up an Internet connection"
i get this message "connection failed with error 651"
Have update my Ethernet driver too
to a vista driver - VIA vista driver
Oh win7 does see the adsl modem, it on the network area
May just buy a cheap network card and plug it in!
ok thanks
Just turned on the comp to check something else, and this time it connected to internet
but later when i turn it back on it probably wont be, time will tell
trying to set up dual boot to see if the network adapter works under xp- Edited by Pale Prophet Monday, July 06, 2009 7:26 PM
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Monday, July 06, 2009 7:33 PMFor what it's worth, here's my one trick pony suggestion for "WinXP PC's connect, Win7 (Vista) doesn't":
I found out the hard way that Vista and Windows 7 have a TCPIP performance autotuning feature, designed to take advantage of features in the TCPIP standard... that are not always implemented in routers (or weren't until recently).
When communication about the tuning settings breaks down, your internet connection slows to a crawl, or stops altogether.
First, try disabling the autotuning.- Open the Command Prompt with administrator privileges. [Start, All Programs, Accessories, right-click Command Prompt, Run as Administrator]
- Type the following command and press Enter: netsh interface tcp set global autotuninglevel=disabled
- Exit, and you're done
If this works, you should try upgrading the firmware in your router (don't trust the router vendor's "Vista compatible" list - if your box is a couple of revisions old, just flash it anyway. But please make sure you have the right firmware for your particular version!)
Once you've flashed the router firmware, you can turn autotuning back on using the same approach, but type
netsh interface tcp set global autotuninglevel=normal
instead.
An alternative to doing the router firmware might be to borrow a friend's nice new router, and see if that makes a difference. Or take the offending PC to someone with Vista and a working internet connection. -
Monday, July 06, 2009 7:44 PMthanks
will check that out
my modem is a few years old now, i think
as long as i can turn the autotuning on and off
since my main comp is the xp one, and it works fine on the net
unfortunately everyone i know is running xp
thanks
edited
It working now
but will wait to see if it keeps working
thanks
Nope stopped again- Edited by Pale Prophet Tuesday, July 07, 2009 7:05 AM
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Tuesday, July 07, 2009 10:23 AMOk
Got my dual boot with win7/xp working
xp has not problem connecting to the internet
so it's the the network adapter
it's only windows 7 that has the problem
most times it will not connect
occasionally it does,
i haven't found a pattern to figure out when it does yet
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Tuesday, July 07, 2009 8:57 PMI'd suggest a more hardware oriented approach and cut it off at the source.
Go into your network adapter properties and disable all offloading, flow control, etc.. Allow the software to take control of it - if its demanding it give all of it to it... assuming it has those options. -
Wednesday, July 08, 2009 7:25 AMthis is what it has under Adapter Properties/Advanced
What should i try changing
Flow Control - Disabled
Interrupt Moderation - Enabled
Network Address - Not Present
Receive Buffers - 160
Speed & Duplex Settings - Auto Negotiation
Transmit Buffers - 160
Wake Up Type - OS Controlled
thanks
EDIT
thanks North7
I "Disabled" the Interrupt Moderation and it connect straight away
now i'll just wait and see if the next time i turn the comp. on, if it will connect again or not
thanks
EDITED
Just turned the win7 back on
and again
NO CONNECTION
damn
OK
just turn the "Wake Up Type - ALL"
and i'm "Connected"
again
now i'll just wait and see if the next time i turn the comp. on, if it will connect again or not
thanks
EDIT
it wont connect again
this is ridiculous
- Edited by Pale Prophet Wednesday, July 08, 2009 6:48 PM new details
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Thursday, July 09, 2009 6:20 AMok
here's the go now
most of the time when i turn on the win7 comp
it will NOT connect to the internet
I have to change one or several of these setting to make it connect
Flow Control - Disabled
Interrupt Moderation - Enabled
Network Address - Not Present
Receive Buffers - 160
Speed & Duplex Settings - Auto Negotiation
Transmit Buffers - 160
Wake Up Type - OS Controlled
then
when the comp goes off, next time it's on it won't connect
so i have to turn the setting back, to get it to connect again
obviously i shouldn't have to do this to get a connect to the internet
it's ridiculous
obviously the answer lies in the differences in the way win7 connects
compared to the way xp connects
since xp connect everytime -
Saturday, July 25, 2009 3:48 AMWell I been playing with Safe Mode in Win7
And it connects to the internet "Everytime"
It just wont connect in normal mode, without me play around with the setting
I can't help but notice no "mod" has replied to this thread
So i'm assuming that know one has a clue on how to fix it!
Hence microsoft is unable to fix all the networking problems that everyone is having!
Not good for future sales
i'll certainly be sticking with XP unless all networking problems are fixed -
Wednesday, September 16, 2009 7:04 PMstill no solution to this problem !!!
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Friday, August 06, 2010 5:51 PM
I just encountered a problem like this and it was due to an old copy of Bonjour services from Apple Inc. being just installed with another piece of software. I updated the bonjour services to the 2010 version and the computer could see the internet again.
Where I checked:
c:/Program Files(or 'Program Files(x86)' for 64 bit editions)/Bonjour
right click and go to properties
If the version is pre 2010 update it
http://support.apple.com/kb/DL999
Hurray for sloppy code
Hope this helps
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Sunday, February 20, 2011 11:36 PMAfter I did a Microsoft update, I got a 651 Error on my Dell Microsoft 7 PC using a wireless router. And I tried everything. But this is what worked. (I did the 'command prompt' thing that was suggested by another person and then turned it back to normal -- just thought I'd mention that in case it had any effect.) But I fixed the problem by 1st holding the F2 and FN (at the bottom of the keyboard) several times. Then going to the Control Panel, view network status and tasks (click), change adaptor settings (click), somehow my Broadband Connection was the default (there was a green check mark), disabled that, went to Wireless Network Connection that had a black X and enabled that. Nothing happened for awhile. And then as I was sitting there looking at it, the connection came up on it's own with my router name.

