Fire Shares inheriting perms from unknown locationI have redirected My Docs setup and was alarmed to find that some how Domain Users was inheriting Full Access rights to each users folder.  The advanced button lists the Domain Users rights coming from the D:\Users share, but on the perms of D:\users there is no sign of Domain Users and under the effective perms tool Domain Users is not listed at all with perms to D:\Users.  I can go remove them one at a time, but new users folders get the Domain Users Full Access tacked on inheriting from somewhere.  Ideas where I can find where it's coming from?© 2009 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.Wed, 08 Jul 2009 06:17:36 Zdc4f4b5e-fd9c-44ca-852a-188486c3a451http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/winserverfiles/thread/dc4f4b5e-fd9c-44ca-852a-188486c3a451#dc4f4b5e-fd9c-44ca-852a-188486c3a451http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/winserverfiles/thread/dc4f4b5e-fd9c-44ca-852a-188486c3a451#dc4f4b5e-fd9c-44ca-852a-188486c3a451gorejdhttp://social.technet.microsoft.com/Profile/en-US/?user=gorejdFire Shares inheriting perms from unknown locationI have redirected My Docs setup and was alarmed to find that some how Domain Users was inheriting Full Access rights to each users folder.  The advanced button lists the Domain Users rights coming from the D:\Users share, but on the perms of D:\users there is no sign of Domain Users and under the effective perms tool Domain Users is not listed at all with perms to D:\Users.  I can go remove them one at a time, but new users folders get the Domain Users Full Access tacked on inheriting from somewhere.  Ideas where I can find where it's coming from?Fri, 26 Jun 2009 16:06:57 Z2009-06-26T16:06:57Zhttp://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/winserverfiles/thread/dc4f4b5e-fd9c-44ca-852a-188486c3a451#a2b7d7e1-9ef9-45fe-a0b7-9857d8de1d2fhttp://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/winserverfiles/thread/dc4f4b5e-fd9c-44ca-852a-188486c3a451#a2b7d7e1-9ef9-45fe-a0b7-9857d8de1d2fIsaac Obenhttp://social.technet.microsoft.com/Profile/en-US/?user=Isaac%20ObenFire Shares inheriting perms from unknown locationHello,<br/>Issue mostly likely caming from D:\ drive since it is the root drive. Look at the sucurity configurations on the D drive, select Advanced uncheck propagating to folders and subfolders.<hr class="sig">Isaac Oben MCITP:EA, MCSE Fri, 26 Jun 2009 20:46:20 Z2009-06-26T20:46:20Zhttp://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/winserverfiles/thread/dc4f4b5e-fd9c-44ca-852a-188486c3a451#d9bd748d-74fb-4a78-9ddc-c383c2fe3d96http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/winserverfiles/thread/dc4f4b5e-fd9c-44ca-852a-188486c3a451#d9bd748d-74fb-4a78-9ddc-c383c2fe3d96gorejdhttp://social.technet.microsoft.com/Profile/en-US/?user=gorejdFire Shares inheriting perms from unknown locationThere are no perms on D:\ set to propagate and Domain Users is not on there and has no effective perms on D:\.  Can't find where in the heck it's coming from.Fri, 26 Jun 2009 20:59:48 Z2009-06-26T20:59:48Zhttp://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/winserverfiles/thread/dc4f4b5e-fd9c-44ca-852a-188486c3a451#c37d16aa-3008-4209-8b52-2754dd8221f3http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/winserverfiles/thread/dc4f4b5e-fd9c-44ca-852a-188486c3a451#c37d16aa-3008-4209-8b52-2754dd8221f3David Shen - MSFThttp://social.technet.microsoft.com/Profile/en-US/?user=David%20Shen%20-%20MSFTFire Shares inheriting perms from unknown location<p class=MsoNormal style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><span style="font-size:10pt">Hello gorejd,</span></p> <p class=MsoNormal style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><span style="font-size:10pt"> </span></p> <p class=MsoNormal style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><span style="font-size:10pt">To trace down where the permissions comes from, We can use ShareEnum and AccessEunm utility on that server which holds the D:\User shared folder.</span></p> <p class=MsoNormal style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><span style="font-size:10pt"> </span></p> <p class=MsoNormal style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><span style="font-size:10pt">By using these 2 utilities, we can view all the Share and NTFS security settings on the file share. </span></p> <p class=MsoNormal style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><span style="font-size:10pt"> </span></p> <p class=MsoNormal style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><span style="font-size:10pt">ShareEnum:</span></p> <p class=MsoNormal style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><span style="font-size:10pt"> </span></p> <p class=MsoNormal style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><span style="font-size:10pt">&quot;Since there are no built-in tools to list shares viewable on a network and their security settings, but ShareEnum fills the void and allows you to lock down file shares in your network. When you run ShareEnum it uses NetBIOS enumeration to scan all the computers within the domains accessible to it, showing file and print shares and their security settings. You may simply view share permission settings with security descriptors in the ShareEnum console. ShareEnum is most effective when you run it with a domain administrator account.&quot;</span></p> <p class=MsoNormal style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><span style="font-size:10pt"> </span></p> <p class=MsoNormal style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><span style="font-size:10pt">AccessEnum:</span></p> <p class=MsoNormal style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><span style="font-size:10pt"> </span></p> <p class=MsoNormal style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><span style="font-size:10pt">&quot;Since there's no built-in way to quickly view user accesses to a tree of directories or keys. AccessEnum gives you a full view of your file system and Registry security settings in seconds, making it the ideal tool for helping you for security holes and lock down permissions where necessary. You may simply view the NTFS security settings with security descriptors in the AccessEnum console.&quot;</span></p> <p class=MsoNormal style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><span style="font-size:10pt"> </span></p> <p class=MsoNormal style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><span style="font-size:10pt">Here are some detailed steps, which may helpful for you.</span></p> <p class=MsoNormal style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><span style="font-size:10pt"> </span></p> <p class=MsoNormal style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><span style="font-size:10pt">1. Download ShareEnum and AccessEnum from the following links.</span></p> <p class=MsoNormal style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><span style="font-size:10pt"> </span></p> <p class=MsoNormal style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><span style="font-size:10pt">ShareEnum v1.6</span></p> <p class=MsoNormal style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><span style="font-size:10pt"><a href="http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb897442.aspx">http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb897442.aspx</a></span></p> <p class=MsoNormal style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><span style="font-size:10pt"> </span></p> <p class=MsoNormal style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><span style="font-size:10pt">ShareEnum utility can clearly list all the Share permissions with all the groups (including global groups and local groups) on the server.</span></p> <p class=MsoNormal style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><span style="font-size:10pt"> </span></p> <p class=MsoNormal style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><span style="font-size:10pt">AccessEnum v1.32</span></p> <p class=MsoNormal style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><span style="font-size:10pt"><a href="http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb897332.aspx">http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb897332.aspx</a></span></p> <p class=MsoNormal style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><span style="font-size:10pt"> </span></p> <p class=MsoNormal style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><span style="font-size:10pt">AccessEnum utility can clearly list all the NTFS permissions with all the groups (including global groups and local groups) on the server.</span></p> <p class=MsoNormal style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><span style="font-size:10pt"> </span></p> <p class=MsoNormal style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><span style="font-size:10pt">2. Copy ShareEnum and AccessEnum utility to the problematic server.</span></p> <p class=MsoNormal style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><span style="font-size:10pt"> </span></p> <p class=MsoNormal style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><span style="font-size:10pt">3. Usage of ShareEnum.exe </span></p> <p class=MsoNormal style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><span style="font-size:10pt"> </span></p> <p class=MsoNormal style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><span style="font-size:10pt">List all the share permissions with all the groups (including global groups and local groups) on the server.</span></p> <p class=MsoNormal style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><span style="font-size:10pt"> </span></p> <p class=MsoNormal style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><span style="font-size:10pt">a. Double-click ShareEnum.exe.</span></p> <p class=MsoNormal style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><span style="font-size:10pt">b. On the drop list of &quot;ShareEnum displays security information on all shares accessible with the selected domain&quot;, select the domain that you want to list share permission.</span></p> <p class=MsoNormal style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><span style="font-size:10pt">c. Click &quot;Refresh&quot; button to list all the Share path and Share permission in the console.</span></p> <p class=MsoNormal style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><span style="font-size:10pt">d. Click &quot;Export…&quot; to save the report as a &quot;<strong>share.txt</strong>&quot; file.</span></p> <p class=MsoNormal style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><span style="font-size:10pt">e. Open the &quot;share.txt&quot; with Notepad.exe</span></p> <p class=MsoNormal style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><span style="font-size:10pt">f.  In Notepad, click Edit, and click Find, you may input the group name &quot;<strong>Domain users</strong>&quot;, and then click &quot;Find next&quot; to find the group.</span></p> <p class=MsoNormal style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><span style="font-size:10pt">g. In the way, you will see the Share permission settings on both the local group and the global group.</span></p> <p class=MsoNormal style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><span style="font-size:10pt"> </span></p> <p class=MsoNormal style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><span style="font-size:10pt">4. Usage of AccessEnum.exe</span></p> <p class=MsoNormal style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><span style="font-size:10pt"> </span></p> <p class=MsoNormal style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><span style="font-size:10pt">List all the NTFS permissions with all the groups (including global groups and local groups) on the server.</span></p> <p class=MsoNormal style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><span style="font-size:10pt"> </span></p> <p class=MsoNormal style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><span style="font-size:10pt">a. Double-click AccessEnum.exe.</span></p> <p class=MsoNormal style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><span style="font-size:10pt">b. Click &quot;Directory…&quot;, you may select a directory (ex<strong style="">. D:\Users</strong>) or a partition (ex. <strong style="">D:</strong> partition) in the &quot;Browse for folder&quot; dialog box.</span></p> <p class=MsoNormal style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><span style="font-size:10pt">c. Click &quot;Scan&quot; button to enumerate all the NTFS permissions on the target directory or partition in the console.</span></p> <p class=MsoNormal style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><span style="font-size:10pt">d. After enumeration, you may click &quot;Save&quot; to save the report as a &quot;NTFS.txt&quot; file.</span></p> <p class=MsoNormal style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><span style="font-size:10pt">e. Open the &quot;<strong>NTFS.txt</strong>&quot; with Notepad.exe</span></p> <p class=MsoNormal style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><span style="font-size:10pt">f.  In Notepad, click Edit, and click Find, you may input the group name &quot;<strong>Domain users</strong>&quot;, and then click &quot;Find next&quot; to find the group.</span></p> <p class=MsoNormal style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><span style="font-size:10pt">g. In the way, you will also see the NTFS permission settings on both the local group and the global group.</span></p> <p class=MsoNormal style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><span style="font-size:10pt"> </span></p> <p class=MsoNormal style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><span style="font-size:10pt">If possible, please send the share.txt and NTFS.txt to <a href="mailto:tfwst@microsoft.com"><span style="color:#0000ff">tfwst@microsoft.com</span></a> for further analysis.</span></p> <p class=MsoNormal style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><span style="font-size:10pt"> </span></p> <p class=MsoNormal style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><span style="font-size:10pt">Hope it helps.</span></p><hr class="sig">This posting is provided &quot;AS IS&quot; with no warranties, and confers no rights.Mon, 29 Jun 2009 08:23:16 Z2009-06-29T08:23:16Zhttp://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/winserverfiles/thread/dc4f4b5e-fd9c-44ca-852a-188486c3a451#cf4e0b34-c150-4e30-8d1d-662dacdf5df7http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/winserverfiles/thread/dc4f4b5e-fd9c-44ca-852a-188486c3a451#cf4e0b34-c150-4e30-8d1d-662dacdf5df7David Shen - MSFThttp://social.technet.microsoft.com/Profile/en-US/?user=David%20Shen%20-%20MSFTFire Shares inheriting perms from unknown location<p class=MsoNormal style="margin:0in 0in 0pt;text-autospace:ideograph-numeric"><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black">Hi gorejd,<br/><br/>I want to see if the information provided was helpful. Please keep us posted on your progress and let us know if you have any additional questions or concerns.</span></p> <p class=MsoNormal style="margin:0in 0in 0pt;text-autospace:ideograph-numeric"><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black"><br/>We are looking forward to your response.<span style="">  </span></span></p><hr class="sig">This posting is provided &quot;AS IS&quot; with no warranties, and confers no rights.Thu, 02 Jul 2009 01:56:48 Z2009-07-02T01:56:48Zhttp://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/winserverfiles/thread/dc4f4b5e-fd9c-44ca-852a-188486c3a451#a7750cf2-79e4-45f7-aef5-40b675ac3cf7http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/winserverfiles/thread/dc4f4b5e-fd9c-44ca-852a-188486c3a451#a7750cf2-79e4-45f7-aef5-40b675ac3cf7gorejdhttp://social.technet.microsoft.com/Profile/en-US/?user=gorejdFire Shares inheriting perms from unknown location<p>It looks like the User's folder is created by the Redirected My Doc GPO.  This GPO setting in &quot;Basic&quot; mode creates the share for the user with some default perms and gives the user &quot;exclusive rights&quot;.  My guess is part of the Default perms that are getting created as each new users signs in and is the GPO creates their folder is the Domain Users are assigned Full Access.  Any idea how I can modify the Default Perms created by the GPO on each share?  I have verified that I can go remove Domain User's rights, but then I have to do it for every new user as they sign in for the first time and their share is auto created.<br/><br/>Thanks for the responses, I will use the tools above in the meantime.<br/></p>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 02:51:50 Z2009-07-02T02:51:50Zhttp://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/winserverfiles/thread/dc4f4b5e-fd9c-44ca-852a-188486c3a451#9bbc4a95-99a2-4dcc-a1ac-630722bea268http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/winserverfiles/thread/dc4f4b5e-fd9c-44ca-852a-188486c3a451#9bbc4a95-99a2-4dcc-a1ac-630722bea268Brian Borghttp://social.technet.microsoft.com/Profile/en-US/?user=Brian%20BorgFire Shares inheriting perms from unknown locationSee also the GP setting &quot;Add the Administrators security group to roaming user profiles&quot;, under Computer\...\Administrative Templates\System\User Profiles.Thu, 02 Jul 2009 03:12:08 Z2009-07-02T03:12:08Zhttp://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/winserverfiles/thread/dc4f4b5e-fd9c-44ca-852a-188486c3a451#80c6e9b0-a65e-4d47-bfaa-21dae2675f86http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/winserverfiles/thread/dc4f4b5e-fd9c-44ca-852a-188486c3a451#80c6e9b0-a65e-4d47-bfaa-21dae2675f86David Shen - MSFThttp://social.technet.microsoft.com/Profile/en-US/?user=David%20Shen%20-%20MSFTFire Shares inheriting perms from unknown location<p class=MsoNormal style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:'Verdana','sans-serif'">Hello gorejd,</span></p> <p class=MsoNormal style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:'Verdana','sans-serif'"> </span></p> <p class=MsoNormal style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:'Verdana','sans-serif'">Based on my research, if there is no Domain User’s ACL entries on that parent folder D:\Users (which contains the redirected shared folder that is created by users when they logon the domain), and assumed that we have configured folder redirection group policy as the following condition, t<span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:'Verdana','sans-serif'">he &quot;Domain Users&quot; group should not have full access right to each user's redirected folder under the parent folder D:\Users.</span></span></p> <p class=MsoNormal style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:'Verdana','sans-serif'"> </span></p> <p class=MsoNormal style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:'Verdana','sans-serif'">Setting: Basic – Redirect everyone's folder to the same location</span></p> <p class=MsoNormal style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:'Verdana','sans-serif'">Target folder location: Create a folder for each user under the root path</span></p> <p class=MsoNormal style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:'Verdana','sans-serif'">Root Path: <a><span style="color:#0000ff">\\servername\Users</span></a></span></p> <p class=MsoNormal style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:'Verdana','sans-serif'">Grant the user exclusive rights to &quot;My Documents&quot;.</span></p> <p class=MsoNormal style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:'Verdana','sans-serif'"> </span></p> <p class=MsoNormal style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:'Verdana','sans-serif'">We need to investigate the issue more in detailed, to help you troubleshoot the issue, please scan and list the NTFS security permission of <strong>D:\</strong> and <strong>D:\Users</strong> by using <strong>AccessEnum</strong> utility, and then output it as <strong>NTFS.txt</strong> file.</span></p> <p class=MsoNormal style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:'Verdana','sans-serif'"> </span></p> <p class=MsoNormal style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:'Verdana','sans-serif'">AccessEnum v1.32</span></p> <p class=MsoNormal style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:'Verdana','sans-serif'"><a href="http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb897332.aspx">http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb897332.aspx</a></span></p> <p class=MsoNormal style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:'Verdana','sans-serif'"> </span></p> <p class=MsoNormal style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:'Verdana','sans-serif'">Meanwhile, please take screenshots of the Security setting of D:\, D:\Users and one user’s redirect folder under it.</span></p> <p class=MsoNormal style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:'Verdana','sans-serif'"> </span></p> <p class=MsoNormal style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:'Verdana','sans-serif'">You may also consider bnborg’s suggestion to check if that group policy setting has been enabled. You can run &quot;gpresult /v &gt; D:\gp.txt&quot; to output the gpresult on that server.</span></p> <p class=MsoNormal style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:'Verdana','sans-serif'"> </span></p> <p class=MsoNormal style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:'Verdana','sans-serif'">Please send us the NTFS.txt file, screenshots and gp.txt to <a href="mailto:tfwst@microsoft.com"><span style="color:#0000ff">tfwst@microsoft.com</span></a></span></p> <p class=MsoNormal style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:'Verdana','sans-serif'"> </span></p> <p class=MsoNormal style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:'Verdana','sans-serif'">Any time and effort will be appreciated.</span></p> <p class=MsoNormal style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:'Verdana','sans-serif'"> </span></p> <p class=MsoNormal style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:'Verdana','sans-serif'">Thanks for your co-operation.</span></p><hr class="sig">This posting is provided &quot;AS IS&quot; with no warranties, and confers no rights.Fri, 03 Jul 2009 06:06:33 Z2009-07-03T06:06:33Z