WSUS database files missing
- Windows 2008 SP2. Have an issue where the SUSDB.mdf and SUSDB_LOG.ldf became corrupt and now can NOT be found by WSUS 3.0 SP2. Keep getting "Error: Connection Error" and to Reset Server Node or Copy Error to Clipboard. When searching for the previous listed files on the machine, they do NOT exist. The event log has an error id of 12707, 12704 and 18456. So i tried to uninstall WSUS but get an 80070643 - attempt to un-install windows server update services failed. Tried to re-install WSUS, but the system wants to un-install first. How can i fix or recreate SUSDB.mdf and SUSDB_LOG.ldf, or remove WSUS and start over? Any way to fix this problem?
Thanks in advance
Answers
Lawrence,
Found this to be a permissions issue on the drive and in the registery. How strange is that??? Took microsoft 8 hours to determine and fix the problem. As usual, i'm greatful for your help.
Well shucks.... although I must say: No real surprise.
It's been my observation that 90% of upgrade failures are directly, or indirectly, tied to some sort of security reconfiguration.
Sometimes it's just a matter of finding what was (usually, unknowingly) changed.
In many cases, it's a result of unexpected side-effects of the Win2003 Security Configuration Wizard. :-/
Lawrence Garvin, M.S., MCITP:EA, MCDBA
Principal/CTO, Onsite Technology Solutions, Houston, Texas
Microsoft MVP - Software Distribution (2005-2009)
My MVP Profile: http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/Lawrence.Garvin
My Blog: http://onsitechsolutions.spaces.live.com- Marked As Answer byfranky34 Thursday, November 12, 2009 1:42 PM
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Windows 2008 SP2. Have an issue where the SUSDB.mdf and SUSDB_LOG.ldf became corrupt and now can NOT be found by WSUS 3.0 SP2. Keep getting "Error: Connection Error" and to Reset Server Node or Copy Error to Clipboard. When searching for the previous listed files on the machine, they do NOT exist. The event log has an error id of 12707, 12704 and 18456. So i tried to uninstall WSUS but get an 80070643 - attempt to un-install windows server update services failed. Tried to re-install WSUS, but the system wants to un-install first. How can i fix or recreate SUSDB.mdf and SUSDB_LOG.ldf, or remove WSUS and start over? Any way to fix this problem?
Thanks in advance
How to manually remove WSUS
Lawrence Garvin, M.S., MCITP:EA, MCDBA
Principal/CTO, Onsite Technology Solutions, Houston, Texas
Microsoft MVP - Software Distribution (2005-2009)
My MVP Profile: http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/Lawrence.Garvin
My Blog: http://onsitechsolutions.spaces.live.com- Have removed per instructions. WSUS is still checked in the Server Manager under Roles. Tried to re-install and get message of Fail to connect to SQL server MAIN\MICROSOFT##SSEE The specified service does not exist as an installed service.
Thought when in re-installed WSUS 3.0 SP2 this was created automatically. How do i get this service installed so i can get WSUS working again?
Here's install log -
2009-11-05 13:07:31 Success MWUSSetup Validating pre-requisites...
2009-11-05 13:07:54 Success MWUSSetup Initializing installation details
2009-11-05 13:07:54 Success MWUSSetup Skipping Asp.Net install since not running on win2k3...
2009-11-05 13:07:54 Success MWUSSetup Installing wYukon using ocsetup
2009-11-05 13:07:54 Success MWUSSetup Installing Windows Internal database using ocsetup with command line as "ocsetup "WSSEE" /quiet /norestart"
2009-11-05 13:08:05 Error MWUSSetup The process ocsetup "WSSEE" /quiet /norestart returned error: 0x643 (Error 0x80070643: Fatal error during installation.)
2009-11-05 13:08:05 Error MWUSSetup ExecCmd failed (Error 0x80070643: Fatal error during installation.)
2009-11-05 13:08:05 Error MWUSSetup Install Windows Internal database: Failed to execute "ocsetup "WSSEE" /quiet /norestart" (Error 0x80070643: Fatal error during installation.)
2009-11-05 13:08:05 Error MWUSSetup CInstallDriver::PerformSetup: Installation of wYukon failed (Error 0x80070643: Fatal error during installation.)
2009-11-05 13:08:05 Error MWUSSetup CSetupDriver::LaunchSetup: Setup failed (Error 0x80070643: Fatal error during installation.)
2009-11-05 13:08:08 Error MWUSSetup DoInstall: Wsus setup failed (Error 0x80070643: Fatal error during installation.)
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Rebooted machine
still get the same error.
Do i need to remove this key? - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Update Services\Server\Setup key
Still just trying to find answers.
Thanks Have removed per instructions. WSUS is still checked in the Server Manager under Roles.
My apologies. I did not read closely enough. The procedure provided is for uninstalling WSUS as an application on a Windows Server 2003 system. For uninstalling WSUS as a Role, you'll need to follow the Window Server 2008 procedures for uninstalling a ROLE. If it won't uninstall, you should ask for general guidance in the Windows Server 2008 forums for uninstalling a ROLE that will not uninstall.
Lawrence Garvin, M.S., MCITP:EA, MCDBA
Principal/CTO, Onsite Technology Solutions, Houston, Texas
Microsoft MVP - Software Distribution (2005-2009)
My MVP Profile: http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/Lawrence.Garvin
My Blog: http://onsitechsolutions.spaces.live.com- Have asked for help in the general guidanace for windows server 2008 forums. So far the reply has been, i would get better help from the WSUS forums. All i would like is to get this running again. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
- I Had a similar issue three days ago, and i've followed the instructions (How to manually remove WSUS) and still my WSUS server is not functioning, i just knew now from this topic after i've followed the instructions that it's not applied to Windows Server 2008, it should be clear in the above instructions that it's only for Windows server 2003. Now the WSUS role is not working, i can't even remove or reinstall it, please advice.
Thanks and good luck - Is there any way of fixing this? The general forum doesn't seem to want to reply to me.
Have asked for help in the general guidanace for windows server 2008 forums. So far the reply has been, i would get better help from the WSUS forums. All i would like is to get this running again. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Bummer! I feel your pain. Complicating matters is the lack of guidance from the WSUS team on how to "uninstall WSUS as a role" when it doesn't work as advertised. I'd hoped maybe the Win2008 guys had some generic guidance on the simple question of "how to uninstall a hosed role (regardless of the role)". I'd venture to guess this is covered somewhere in the Win2008 Resource Kit, the Technet product documentation, or the Administrator's Companion -- all of which I have access to, but have not had the time to review.
One other possible answer, albeit not always a functional answer, is "Roll back to the System Restore Point captured at the time of original installation."
Lawrence Garvin, M.S., MCITP:EA, MCDBA
Principal/CTO, Onsite Technology Solutions, Houston, Texas
Microsoft MVP - Software Distribution (2005-2009)
My MVP Profile: http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/Lawrence.Garvin
My Blog: http://onsitechsolutions.spaces.live.comit should be clear in the above instructions that it's only for Windows server 2003
Not wanting to minimize your actual challenge, or my concern for the issue, in general, I will point out that the date of the blog post (which significantly predates the release of Windows Server 2008 or the WSUS-as-a-Role capability) should be the first clue that it's Not Applicable to WSUS-on-Win2008. :)
Lawrence Garvin, M.S., MCITP:EA, MCDBA
Principal/CTO, Onsite Technology Solutions, Houston, Texas
Microsoft MVP - Software Distribution (2005-2009)
My MVP Profile: http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/Lawrence.Garvin
My Blog: http://onsitechsolutions.spaces.live.com- Wish i had access to the material. Don't seem to find on the internet without a price tag attached. I keep hoping the other forum will come thru for me - might be a long wait.........
Wish i had access to the material. Don't seem to find on the internet without a price tag attached. I keep hoping the other forum will come thru for me - might be a long wait.........
While the Resource Kit and Administrator Companion are retail products, the Technet Library is publicly available online.
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd349801(WS.10).aspx
The other two are available from standard retail sources, notably amazon.com and bn.com, and really should be standard fare in every organization's IT Dept library.
Lawrence Garvin, M.S., MCITP:EA, MCDBA
Principal/CTO, Onsite Technology Solutions, Houston, Texas
Microsoft MVP - Software Distribution (2005-2009)
My MVP Profile: http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/Lawrence.Garvin
My Blog: http://onsitechsolutions.spaces.live.comWish i had access to the material. Don't seem to find on the internet without a price tag attached. I keep hoping the other forum will come thru for me - might be a long wait.........
While the Resource Kit and Administrator Companion are retail products, the Technet Library is publicly available online.
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd349801(WS.10).aspx
The other two are available from standard retail sources, notably amazon.com and bn.com, and really should be standard fare in every organization's IT Dept library.
In addition, they're also available with a SafariBooksOnline subscription, which can be had for as little as $10/month (for a five-slot bookshelf).
Lawrence Garvin, M.S., MCITP:EA, MCDBA
Principal/CTO, Onsite Technology Solutions, Houston, Texas
Microsoft MVP - Software Distribution (2005-2009)
My MVP Profile: http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/Lawrence.Garvin
My Blog: http://onsitechsolutions.spaces.live.com- This is what i've been getting from the other forums -
Hi,
It seems that this issue is related to WSUS, I suggest discussing it in our WSUS forum:
http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/winserverwsus/threads
Tim Quan - MSFT
Probabaly in WSUS forum , you will get better answers http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-SG/winserverwsus/threads?filter=unanswered
Raj
Very sad :(- Edited byfranky34 Wednesday, November 11, 2009 2:36 PMjust an fyi
- Lawrence,
Found this to be a permissions issue on the drive and in the registery. How strange is that??? Took microsoft 8 hours to determine and fix the problem. As usual, i'm greatful for your help.
Sincerely. Lawrence,
Found this to be a permissions issue on the drive and in the registery. How strange is that??? Took microsoft 8 hours to determine and fix the problem. As usual, i'm greatful for your help.
Well shucks.... although I must say: No real surprise.
It's been my observation that 90% of upgrade failures are directly, or indirectly, tied to some sort of security reconfiguration.
Sometimes it's just a matter of finding what was (usually, unknowingly) changed.
In many cases, it's a result of unexpected side-effects of the Win2003 Security Configuration Wizard. :-/
Lawrence Garvin, M.S., MCITP:EA, MCDBA
Principal/CTO, Onsite Technology Solutions, Houston, Texas
Microsoft MVP - Software Distribution (2005-2009)
My MVP Profile: http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/Lawrence.Garvin
My Blog: http://onsitechsolutions.spaces.live.com- Marked As Answer byfranky34 Thursday, November 12, 2009 1:42 PM

