Setup Hyper-V on SBS 2011
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26 April 2012 16:46
Hi All,
Sorry if this question has been posted before, but I couldn't find the answer to fit my needs.
Scenario:
I have installed a new Server running Small Business Server 2011. Later, we discovered that one of the databases had hit the 10GB ceiling so have had to purchase the Premium Addon - in order to use the full version of SQL.After doing some research it seems that it would not be wise to install SQL on a Domain Controller. As there are some security issues/ conflict that can arise.
All we're looking to do is to run a server-based application that connects to SQL Server in a virtualised environment
Questions:
- Do I create a Hyper-V Role on the SBS Server 2011 - then install the Small Business Server Premium Addon?
- Can I use the Windows Server 2008 R2 Evaluation Virtual Hard Drive Images for Hyper-V as per this link - http://www.microsoft.com/download/en/details.aspx?displaylang=en&id=16572
- I thought the VHD would be free with the Premium Addon, how would I convert it?
Thank you.
Semua Balasan
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26 April 2012 20:26
Answer: No. The Hyper-V role cannot be installed on SBS. Period.
Answer: Back up SBS and restore to Hyper-V installed on the POA server OS running on the host hardware.
Install SQL into a VM running Windows Server 2008 R2 Standard. 1+1 licensing covers your host and guest VM license for Win2K8 R2.
Philip
Philip Elder SBS MVP Blog: http://blog.mpecsinc.ca
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26 April 2012 22:23
Thanks for the response, Philip.
Do you mean to say that I cannot or should not install Hyper-V on SBS 2011?
Can you please explain POA?
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26 April 2012 22:36
Thanks for the response, Philip.
Do you mean to say that I cannot or should not install Hyper-V on SBS 2011?
Can you please explain POA?
Hyper-V _cannot_ be installed as a Role on SBS 2011. It mucks up a lot of different server services along with networking.
POA = Premium Add-On.
POA consists of 1x Windows Server 2008 R2 Standard license plus the SQL License and 5 POA CALs.
Windows Server 2008 R2 Standard has 1+1 virtualization licensing. That means the OS can be installed on the Physical Host with the Hyper-V Role enabled only. Then one can run a Windows Server 2008 R2 Standard OS in a VM on that host without purchasing another server license.
Philip Elder SBS MVP Blog: http://blog.mpecsinc.ca
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26 April 2012 23:12
Shoot!
I wish I'd purchase Server 2011 instead. This is a major pain!
So, let me get this straight...I will now need to remove SBS 2011 Standard ed. and eplace it with the POA edition?
The POA has a the Hyper -V role already enabled? so it's just a matter of creating a new VM?BTW, I have already enabled Hyper-V on the SBS 2011 Standard. I have not done anything with it yet for three reasons.
1 - Need to get some advice form here.
2- Need to get into the BIOS tocheck DEP status.
3- Cannot find the ISO! -
27 April 2012 18:03
Shoot!
I wish I'd purchase Server 2011 instead. This is a major pain!
So, let me get this straight...I will now need to remove SBS 2011 Standard ed. and eplace it with the POA edition?
The POA has a the Hyper -V role already enabled? so it's just a matter of creating a new VM?BTW, I have already enabled Hyper-V on the SBS 2011 Standard. I have not done anything with it yet for three reasons.
1 - Need to get some advice form here.
2- Need to get into the BIOS tocheck DEP status.
3- Cannot find the ISO!By enabling the Hyper-V Role on SBS the server is in jeopardy. Please read:
Hyper-V like any other Role need to be configured on the host OS once the base OS install has been completed.
Again, the Premium Add-On comes with a Windows Server 2008 R2 Standard license. You can install the base Win2K8 R2 OS and then virtualize both SBS and another Win2K8 R2 instance on top of that.
You can back up SBS 2011 and then restore it to a newly created VM on the Win2K8 R2 host. Just make sure to create the VHDs with the same size or a bit larger than your SBS physical partitions.
Philip Elder SBS MVP Blog: http://blog.mpecsinc.ca
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27 April 2012 19:26
Thanks Philip,
I have not switched the role on and will remove it now. But, taking your advice on-board, I will have to use a full backup to later restore on the VM...after re-installing the server. I see, on other forums, that others have managed to run Hyper-V but I don't want to compromise the system.
This looks like it'll be a long weekend!
I just find it frustrating that the server allows me to install the Hyper-V role without any warnings that I will face issues like you have mentioned. There is very little documentation on the subject and your link...well, this should be made very prominent on the MS SBS website.
One thing...would installing another type of VM (VMWare or VirtualBox) result in the same issues?
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27 April 2012 19:46
While we don't use any other virtualization product than Hyper-V for our own virtualization solutions it will be a given that the networking changes may indeed break things. For sure installing another product will place SBS 2011 in an unsupported state.
Best to leave virtualzation to the host hardware and a hypervisor whether Microsoft or other.
Philip Elder SBS MVP Blog: http://blog.mpecsinc.ca
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03 Mei 2012 7:26Moderatorany updates ?
Jeff Ren TechNet Community Support beneficial to other community members reading the thread.
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09 Mei 2012 10:31
Spoke to Dell.
To surmise....more or less what Phil said...
Run full backup of the server
- Install SBS 2008 R2 (only use it as core OS)
- Install 2 VM Roles
- 1x SBS2011 Std
- 1x SBS 2008 R2 (with SQL 2008 R2)
This I'm told is the correct procedure. But reading a lot of blogs that say installing SQL on the SBS2011 Std will still work!
I am aware of security issues in this scenario...but, on the other hand, I'm concerned that running 2x VMs may hit the processors hard and impact on general performance.
One other thing that concerns me is that we use Symantec Backup Exec 2012. To my knowledge, this software will not operate in a VM. So, more research is required.
Not sure exactly what security issues I will face...still trying to get that information.
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10 Mei 2012 14:21
Wanted to reply to the mention of Backup Exec 2012.....The product does protect both physical and virtual environments.
Are you running into something I can help you with in regards to Backup Exec 2012 and Virtual?
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