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Windows 7 and the battery error "consider replacing your battery".
Windows 7 and the battery error "consider replacing your battery".
In Windows 7 RC and the previous beta, I have been receiving an error message saying "Consider replacing your battery" "There is a problem with your battery, so your computer might shut down suddenly".
I know for a fact that the battery is good. It works fine in Vista, its only about 4 months old, it lasts 2 hours +, and even in Windows 7, it will last for the same time period as it did in Vista.
People have been saying (as well as microsoft) that it is the BIOS and it needs to be updated. Well, I did obtain the latest BIOS from LG, which is dated in 2009, and that didn't change anything. I'm concluding that it is NOT the BIOS since vista reported the estimated time left of the battery just fine, even before the bios update, and I have the latest BIOS.
I ran the powercfg -energy command and it says that windows was not able to determine the capacity of the battery, yet if I go and install the LG batery application, it will tell me all the information about the battery.
I even went as far as to try my friend's battery which is less than 3 weeks old, and it still gave the same error messages.
Please Microsoft, fix this issue, and if you can't, then give the users an option to take off/disable/supress the blinking X that is on top of the power tray icon, and to remove both the "Consider replacing your battery" and "There is a problem with your battery, so your computer might shut down suddenly" messages so we don't have to see that every day, since the battery is in fact GOOD and works properly.
- Dan
PS: my hardware specs are:
LG Xnote R500 (Newest BIOS: CLOSSF19)
Intel T7500
4GB RAM + 2GB Intel Turbo Memory
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- Windows 7 has had issues identifying certain batteries, as you can easily see searching the forum. Due to such prevalence, it is safe to say the issue will be addressed. Thank you for reporting your troubles on the forums.
- 답변으로 표시됨Ronnie VernonMVP, 중재자2009년 6월 22일 월요일 오전 11:12
- 답변으로 표시 취소됨DanLee81 2009년 9월 8일 화요일 오후 7:28
- My 2 month old Asus Eee PC 900 is having the same issue as DanLee81. My HP dv9920us notebook has no such error message and it's battery is over a year old.
An annoyance at best but still needs to be addressed in the final version. - I also have the same problem here. since the BIOS and battery driver updates are not the culprit with this issue, i guess Microsoft should have a look at it. It's not just the blinking and error message that is irritating, it also affects our power forecasting on our machines. But there was one time when I tried draining the battery on my computer, then charging it up to 100%, the error message didn't show. So I tried it again and drained the battery. But with no luck, the error message again, showed up, until now.
Please, to the developers, please fix this problem.
- It's just a regular bug with the Release Candidate; try to ignore it until there is a patch released.
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- MSDN RTM of Windows 7 did NOT fix this issue. Clearly the issue has not been addressed. I don't know why MS didn't fix this for the final RTM, espically when so many people have this problem.
MSDN RTM of Windows 7 did NOT fix this issue. Clearly the issue has not been addressed. I don't know why MS didn't fix this for the final RTM, espically when so many people have this problem.
I agree with you.Greetings- Try using device manager to disable "microsoft acpi-compliant control method battery." It seems to be a temporary solution to my similar problem. Although I now have no metering, I can get more than 35 minutes on battery. If this temporary soultion works for you, please leave a reply.Ed
- That is not a valid solution as you don't need to disable the "microsoft acpi-compliant control method battery". You can just turn off the "Power" system icon if you do not want to see the blinking X on the battery icon. Still that is unacceptable, as I know my battery is new, it lasts for MORE than 2 hours, and it is only a few months old!
Please Microsoft... let us have the option to disable all messages and the blinking X icons saying we have a bad battery when we actually do not. If you won't, then at least bring back the option to have the same battery behaviour as Vista. The battery icon/messages worked fine there. - Thank you all for keeping this issue alive.
Actually, the best way to keep it alive is for the origional poster to unmark the thread as resolved if they truely have not received a resolution.
I was having excellent battery life until I installed the RTM of Windows 7 - all RC and beta builds that I installed I had nearly three hours of battery. Now, I have about 20 minutes and Win7 shuts down my laptop.
This change in behavior happened when I went from an RC to RTM. Instant behavior change.
Needless to say, I like you that have posted here are not happy.
Brian Ehlert (hopefully you have found this useful) - It could help to avoid automatic switching off and keep the information about battery charge:
Setup Critical battery action to 'Do Nothing'
The tool is powercfg.exe
To change the 'Battery->Critical battery action->'On battery' setting to "Do nothing" using powercfg.exe
1. activate the power scheme you want to modify.
2. open an elevated command console (windows key, type 'cmd' in start menu, press "ctrl+shift+enter", click 'continue')
3. execute "powercfg -setdcvalueindex SCHEME_CURRENT SUB_BATTERY BATACTIONCRIT 0"
4. your current power scheme will show "Battery->Critical battery action->On battery: Do nothing" despite the option being unavailable in the drop box. - Thank you for the work around - but it is still just a work around.
It does not resolve the root cause of the problem.
Brian Ehlert (hopefully you have found this useful) - I too, am having this issue on (2) matching dv6000-hp laptops. At first, I was thinking the laptop is a couple years old, and sat on a shelf gathering dust, not being stored properly. I went to replace the batteries, and realized that HP had recalled them. So i replaced them with brand new batts from the factory. And wala! same issue. This is def. an OS issue that needs to be addressed, but to be honest, as frustrating as it may be, this is the worst thing ive heard about 7, so Im actually super proud of MS. And are confident that a patch, or update will be released very soon. Right Mr. Gates? :-)
- I'm also experiencing this issue, Eee PC 900 with Windows 7 RTM (MSDN).
Microsoft - please look into this! - have the same problem with also a fv6000 hp laptop. Tried updating the bios and all drivers but nothing helps. Please fix this.
- Same issue. I have 30 minutes lifetime battery after I've installed Windows 7 with a 9 cell battery. Gateway FX 6831 machine.
- 편집됨Gustavo Faleiro Bastos 2009년 10월 28일 수요일 오후 6:42
- I also have this Problem.
Installed windows 7 yesterday on my HP DV9787eg Notebook.
No Problems with vista, Windows 7 kills my Battery after 30min.
I installed the ACPI driver and Chipset driver new with now change..
Please Help us Microsoft.
Cheers Tim - Same Problem here on an eeePC 701!
gr33tz, mekz. - I am having Lenovo Y510 I am also facing the same problem "Consider replacing your battery"Help me if you across some solution.
- having the same problem with hp pavillion dv6242us on windows 7 ultimate .. the battery was working fine on vista .. the problem just seems to be on windows 7 n it seems like a lot of people r having the same issue .. y isn't microsoft coming up with a fix?! or addressing this issue?!
- I'm having that same issue with my gateway M-6750, Vista is fine - battery lasted over 2 hrs, installed W7 and now my battery lasts only 20 min. or so. Any work around to make the battery last longer in win 7.
I'm having that same issue with my gateway M-6750, Vista is fine - battery lasted over 2 hrs, installed W7 and now my battery lasts only 20 min. or so. Any work around to make the battery last longer in win 7.
I have a Gateway MT6840 and have similar problems.- I have Toshiba Satellite L40-14D and have similar problems. Low battery life and an error message saying "Consider replacing your battery".
PS: I have official RTM of Windows 7 32bit Ultimate
Micosoft, please fix it! - Wow, this thread is really hott. Microsoft theres a problem.....
Network Systems Engineer * Zvetco Biometrics * Windows Server 2008 R2 * Core2 6600 @ 2.40GHz * 16 GIGS RAM * NVIDIA 9400GT * Same problem with my Alienware Area-51 m5550, only 30 min of battery, please a fix, i have these problem since RC.
waiting for a patch.
- I am having the same problem with my Dell XPS M1530: "consider replacing your battery" message while plugged in and erroneous readings and early shut down when running off battery. I did not have any trouble with Vista and have tried the various updates suggested in this thread without success.
I just messaged Microsoft Helps on Twitter:
@MicrosoftHelps Any plans or suggestions to address the #Win7 battery errors described on this TechNet thread? http://bit.ly/4vOZdM
- I am havin this problem with my Acer Aspire 5100. The battery worked perfectly with WinXP, though.
- Same here, 15 months old Dell XPS M 1330. Until the day before yesterday on Vista 32 bit worked like dream and battery kept over 2hrs. As of Window 7, it keeps max 40 minutes. Help, Microsoft!
- Same problem here - Toshiba Satellite U205. I recently replaced the original battery - everything was fine until I installed W7 last weekend (from Vista Home Prem.) - now the red X seems permanent.
- seems like the only solution is to switch back to the unstable vista.. or mayb its time to go mac finally? lol .. either way i dont see a fix or any response/interest from microsoft in the near future :p because this issue seems to have existed since pre-release versions of windows 7 .. it's annoying! grrr
- Same problem here. I'm running Win7 RC b7201 with latest updates on an Asus EeePC 900 and i'm getting the message "There is a problem with your battery, so your computer might shut down suddenly". But the actual battery life seems to be ok. The powercfg tool tells me i've got a battery with a very huge capacity; this is, actually, the true cause of the problem. Also, sometimes the tray icon tells me that it's charging when actually it's on battery. These strange things are (again sometimes) followed by the DPC process eating all my CPU time. Of course, disabling the battery driver "fixes" all these, but then i've got no idea of my remaining battery energy. I'd be happy to see the fix for there issues, before i switch to RTM (MSDN).
- Me too..The problem appeared about two weeks after the Windows7 installation.My HP DV9000 only lasted about 50 minutes on Windows7, against 3.5 hours in Windows XP.So the battery-time has always been bad, but this notification just started popping up today.
Windows 7 has had issues identifying certain batteries, as you can easily see searching the forum. Due to such prevalence, it is safe to say the issue will be addressed.
Well... any news on this? Does Microsoft know about this problem? Do they work on a fix? Any infos or news on this? It's really getting frustrating.Well... any news on this? Does Microsoft know about this problem? Do they work on a fix? Any infos or news on this? It's really getting frustrating.
@MicrosoftHelps sent the following response to the tweet I posted above:
@Tim_Michael @mbfortson Keep an eye on the thread to see what suggestions moderators posting and possible fixes. ^BK
- Thanks for the info, mbfortson ! Is this good news?!
I did not get this on my twitter!Well... any news on this? Does Microsoft know about this problem? Do they work on a fix? Any infos or news on this? It's really getting frustrating.
@MicrosoftHelps sent the following response to the tweet I posted above:
@Tim_Michael @mbfortson Keep an eye on the thread to see what suggestions moderators posting and possible fixes. ^BK
Funny????
TimMe too..
The problem appeared about two weeks after the Windows7 installation.My HP DV9000 only lasted about 50 minutes on Windows7, against 3.5 hours in Windows XP.So the battery-time has always been bad, but this notification just started popping up today.
My dv9207us, which is still running vista, started giving me this error when I accidentally let the battery run down one time. I think my notification comes from HP though, rather than microsoft. The shut down seems to have prompted the error. I've been ignoring it since I only use the laptop with the power adapter attached.- Is your Windows 7 x86 or x64? I have an Acer Aspire 5920G Laptop and when I installed the x64 Windows 7, I had the battery error you have; but when I reinstalled to the x86 version of Windows 7 the error fixed itself.
Is your Windows 7 x86 or x64? I have an Acer Aspire 5920G Laptop and when I installed the x64 Windows 7, I had the battery error you have; but when I reinstalled to the x86 version of Windows 7 the error fixed itself.
Interesting...
I'm runnning the x86 version on my Aspire 5100 and I do have the battery error.- Please tell me which x86 version you choose, cause I installed a x86 on 5920G and the battery error is still there.
Thanks a lot
NiGe Please tell me which x86 version you choose, cause I installed a x86 on 5920G and the battery error is still there.
Thanks a lot
NiGe
x86 Ultimate and I have an 8 cell battery. No error at all.
I smoke yes; When I'm on fire.- Thanks to you,
I also used a x86 Ultimate.
Do U also have the
<!-- @page { margin: 2cm } P { margin-bottom: 0.21cm } -->Mainboard
Platform Compliance : Intel Centrino Duo Mobile Technologie
Hersteller : Acer
MP Unterstützung : Nein
MPS Version : 1.40
Modell : Chapala
When do you bought it?
I dont understand, why I have so much trouble with this :-(
THX
NiGe
Thanks to you,
I also used a x86 Ultimate.
Do U also have the
<!-- @page { margin: 2cm } P { margin-bottom: 0.21cm } -->Mainboard
Platform Compliance : Intel Centrino Duo Mobile Technologie
Hersteller : Acer
MP Unterstützung : Nein
MPS Version : 1.40
Modell : Chapala
Processor: Intel Centrino Mobile Core2Duo 2Ghz
Manufacturer: Acer
Model: Chapala
BIOS Version: 1.3813
I smoke yes; When I'm on fire.- Its the same !!
Wich Chipset Driver do you use?
Is it the original Acer Akku U use?
U help me so much - thanks :-)
Its the same !!
Wich Chipset Driver do you use?
Is it the original Acer Akku U use?
U help me so much - thanks :-)
I use the Chipset driver that Windows 7 installs, bearing in mind I have an 8 cell battery not 6. I bought it off of eBay. I take it you have the latest BIOS installed?
I smoke yes; When I'm on fire.- Yes I have the latest Bios.
Now I ordered a new Akku - and trying another version of win7 :-(
Thank you for helping me :-)
- I have Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit.I use the chipset-driver W7 provides.Tried downloading Intels 745GM-drivers from the web, but they say my system dosent meet the requirement for the drivers..Also tried the Vista 64bit-drivers that HP provides, also no go.
- i hav windows 7 ultimate x86 .. the battery drivers appear to be from microsoft; i'm not sure if these are supposed to be from my manufacturer (HP) or not .. The processor is Intel Core Duo T2450 2Ghz .. and i have the latest bios from HP (but that was for Windows Vista; could that be the problem?) ..
- Im having the same problem with my dell xps m1530. Come on microsoft! We need a solution for this!
Im having the same problem with my dell xps m1530. Come on microsoft! We need a solution for this!
Microsft is actually working on the problem. Although what I don't get is how it can't determin your battery capacity, when all it is, is a fancier version of Vista with rewritten coding? What did they completely strip/rewrite the battery enumerators?- Is it a fancier version of Vista?
Yes and no. It is part of the evolution of the NT client, if that is what you mean.
Whether they are working on the problem or not, I don't know - but considering the noise on this thread I assume that they are.
I was put out becuase everything worked well for me through the entire beta process (not just the public beta, but additional beta builds as well) and it was not until the final release build that I had problems.
It was a major disappointment.
Now, Win7 does include the ability to use Vista drivers - that is built on purpose so hardware manufactuers would not have to turn around and immediately write new drivers.
I am using all stock Win7 drivers. So that tells me that it is a core deficiency / bug - not a driver specific bug. Rather a software interacting with hardware bug.
My battery life went from 8 hours to 15 minutes, with only an fdisk, format, and install in between. Yes, totally unacceptable.
Like I said earlier - keep this thread alive and at the top of the list if you want it to be given attention.
Brian Ehlert (hopefully you have found this useful) - Same problem for my Dell D620......both my batteries are now qualified as "to be replaced". Running Windows 7 Enterprise (RTM) 64-bit. Battery appears to be empty in 15 minutes. Have to work on the powercable all the time. Grrrrr. Had no issues when running W7 RC 32-bit on the same machine.
- Same problem here. I have an hp dv4170us and i know the battery is fine because it had about a 2 hr charge in xp and about 10 minute charge in 7
- A German "Vendor Support Engineer" replied:
"Your BIOS creates the problem. It sends Windows none or false information. You need a BIOS upgrade to solve this problem." (See http://bit.ly/3cj2A1 )
I already updated my BIOS to the latest available version (Acer Aspire 5100. BIOS v3.13 from 2009/03/31). It didn't help, though.
A German "Vendor Support Engineer" replied:
Strange that it didn't happen in either win2k or XP then.. :S
"Your BIOS creates the problem. It sends Windows none or false information. You need a BIOS upgrade to solve this problem." (See http://bit.ly/3cj2A1 )
I already updated my BIOS to the latest available version (Acer Aspire 5100. BIOS v3.13 from 2009/03/31). It didn't help, though.
Anyways, HP hasn't released bios for my pc since 2007, so good luck with that :P- Yeah, it's disappointing. It seems to me that they aren't really interested in finding a proper solution.
- That might be an answer - but as a customer I consider it an unacceptable answer.
As I said: In my case all was fine prior to RTM - ALL beta builds (public and TAP private) worked without this issue.
This was an issue introduced in the RTM close down.
If it considered to be a non-bug - then a workaround should be provided. As the rediculously short battery life leaves my notebook teathered to a plug.
And it is short battery life that is imposed by the OS - it is not the true battery life of the machine.
I work in Redmond and would drop my laptop off if I knew they were willing to take a serious look at the symptoms.
Again - not a single responce from a MSFT person directly to this thread - all MSFT answers have been third hand.
Brian Ehlert (hopefully you have found this useful) That might be an answer - but as a customer I consider it an unacceptable answer.
Someone from microsoft should come up with a fix.
As I said: In my case all was fine prior to RTM - ALL beta builds (public and TAP private) worked without this issue.
This was an issue introduced in the RTM close down.
If it considered to be a non-bug - then a workaround should be provided. As the rediculously short battery life leaves my notebook teathered to a plug.
And it is short battery life that is imposed by the OS - it is not the true battery life of the machine.
I work in Redmond and would drop my laptop off if I knew they were willing to take a serious look at the symptoms.
Again - not a single responce from a MSFT person directly to this thread - all MSFT answers have been third hand.
Brian Ehlert (hopefully you have found this useful)- i dont see how this could be a bios related problem when with the same bios the battery works fine on earlier versions of windows .. even if it is, i dont see some of the laptops getting an upgraded bios from the manufacturers or it may be a long way in the coming .. i personally think the problem has to do with the new battery module for windows 7 .. microsoft really needs to find a fix for this because i'm sure there are a lot of people out there who upgraded and are having the same problem and aren't aware that the actual problem is not in their batteries but battery module in win 7 .. if there is no solution, either i'm going mac now or downgrading .. but vista is a nightmare!
- I also have the same problem on my dv6000 laptop. I hope Microsoft looks into this because I definitely need more than 30 mins battery life.
Also, I've noticed that charging the laptop to full is a lot faster than before. Has anybody else noticed this? Maybe Win7's detection of low battery is higher than it should be? - weird thing keeps happening .. everytime i use my laptop on battery and then charge it, the charge level goes down each time .. initially it showed 66% of battery life .. now it has drained down to 55% .. any one else notice/experienced this?? might be another issue?
- My is getting 5 minutes Max on battery mode now... the "consider replacing your battery" end red "X" has disappiered...
So I decide to install BatteryCare 0.9.7.3 http://batterycare.bkspot.com/en/index.html (use on your one risk) its a free management tool for notebook battery (its very simple)
It gets some information... the battery capacity in mWh (I think it takes from Windows AC driver api) and it shows some bizzare numbers...
This is what I got...
Manufacturer Name: SMP-LGC
Designed Capacity: 86580mWh (this suppose to be the original, from factory, new battery capacity)
Total Capacity: 727217mWh (this is the full charged capacity in the current time 7 times the original capacity)
Current Capacity: 727217 (that is on 100% charged)
Charge/discharge rate: 0Watts
Tension(Voltage): 12313mV
Wear Level: 0,00 %
Total discharged Cyles: 0
It seams that AC drivers are crazy in Windows 7.
Some other data....
Mycrosoft AC Adapter: Version 6.1.7600.16385 | Driver Date 21/06/2006 (isn't that... very old?)
Microsoft ACPI-Compliant Control Method Battery: Version 6.1.7600.16385 | Driver Date 21/06/2006 (Same Thing)
Microsoft Composite Battery: Version 6.1.7600.16385 | Driver Date 21/06/2006 (Same Thing)
All those drivers are the original Wiondows 7 RTM builtin, I did never messed with them...
Driver Provider Microsoft and Driver Signer Microsoft Windows
My conclusion (Maybe I can be wrong....)
The issue is on Microsoft AC Adapter Drivers (not on BIOS or other stuff) - Hi everyone.
I do not think it has to do with RTM version, since I am still using RC and I just got the same error when I turned my laptop on this morning. (Actually I was thinking it might be related to MS starting to shut down the RC so it would be replaced by RTM - but now I know it's not that either.)
Weird is I didn't get any updates last night, at least not that I'm aware of. Anyway, maybe there's something that triggers this behavior all of the sudden and finding what it is might fix it. - I had the same problem on my Dell Latitude D830 , earlier this week which had Win 7 Pro installed , all of a sudden I started getting "Consider Replacing......" message. Re-installed Win 7 Pro did not help any.
Did the following to fix the problem:
1. Fully Charged Laptop Battery to 100 % , then unplugged power cable, and I let the battery drain (when battery reaches 99 % I started getting the x and consider replacing... message, i ignored that)
2. Fully Drained the battery power , laptop went to hibernate, powered it back on and then it shutdown completely.
3. Went to Bios and see if any power was left, did have 2 % left.
4. waited 15 mins and Laptop completely drained the battery and it could not be powered on.
5.Took the battery out, while the battery was out pressed the power button and drained if any power was left in the laptop.
6.Plugged the a/c adapter cable in the laptop waited 5 mins, powered the up the laptop back.
7.While charging the laptop did not get the error message :)
I am assuming this re-synced the application with the hardware, could be wrong, But its most likely a bug in the Win7.
Problem solved in my case, should this helps other as well.....
Thanks,
- Worked 100% for me too mate, I have no idea how you figured this out.
Excellent work man.
I smoke yes; When I'm on fire. This procedure is called "calibrate" the battery.
I had done this before. The red "x" had really disappeared but the battery charges are very unreliable. When I the note is charging it starts from 3% and suddenly it jumps to 100% of charge and sometimes it lasts 30 sometimes just 5 minutes.
msr4209211 could you please make some tests and disconnect the notebook from power cord and see what happends?- np Bowie, glad it worked for you....
Gustavo, in my case its still working fine after the adapter cable is unplugged.. I had the same problem on my Dell Latitude D830 , earlier this week which had Win 7 Pro installed , all of a sudden I started getting "Consider Replacing......" message. Re-installed Win 7 Pro did not help any.
Did the following to fix the problem:
1. Fully Charged Laptop Battery to 100 % , then unplugged power cable, and I let the battery drain (when battery reaches 99 % I started getting the x and consider replacing... message, i ignored that)
2. Fully Drained the battery power , laptop went to hibernate, powered it back on and then it shutdown completely.
3. Went to Bios and see if any power was left, did have 2 % left.
4. waited 15 mins and Laptop completely drained the battery and it could not be powered on.
5.Took the battery out, while the battery was out pressed the power button and drained if any power was left in the laptop.
6.Plugged the a/c adapter cable in the laptop waited 5 mins, powered the up the laptop back.
7.While charging the laptop did not get the error message :)
I am assuming this re-synced the application with the hardware, could be wrong, But its most likely a bug in the Win7.
Problem solved in my case, should this helps other as well.....
Thanks,
The reason I'm unproposing this as an answer is I've tried this a long time ago, back in June. This method does not work. Yes, the blinking X goes away and the "consider replacing your battery" message also goes away, but once you have your computer booted and plugged in.... remove the AC then put it back in... if the X doesnt come back the first time, it will the second time you try this.
I've narrowed it down to windows ACPI not properly getting the measurement of the remaining battery properly. When generating a report with powercfg -energy, the number for the battery capacity is some insanely large number. My guess is, Windows will see that and conclude that the battery is bad when it clearly is not. The reason I'm saying the battery is not bad (even in my situation), is with XP and Vista, and the LG battery app... once you plug in the AC or if you take the battery out and put it back in, sometimes the remaining mAh reading will be a really high number for a split second then go to its correct value. There is nothing wrong with the battery, its just that it behaves that way. I've replicated this result on my computer as well as other LG laptops, HP, Lenovo/IBM, and Dell laptops. I'm pretty confident that everyone with a GOOD battery and tried this method will have the same results as I did.
Microsoft HAS to fix this issue, because this is not isolated to just one notebook manufacturer, but several notebook manufacturers and popular ones at that.
Note: All tests I performed were done with batteries that were less than 1 year old, held 2h or more charge before Windows 7, and all worked fine before installing Windows 7.
- Dan Lee- 편집됨DanLee81 2009년 11월 12일 목요일 오후 3:55
- Did what you suggested above, i.e " remove the AC then put it back in... if the X doesnt come back the first time, it will the second time you try this".
fyi did the above multiple times, could not generate the problem again.
The above solution i gave earlier worked for me, which again might not work for others.
Good luck to all who find the solution to this or hopefully you'll can wait for Microsoft to find the solution for you (lol), if one provided by me does for people out there sorry :-) . I had the same problem on my Dell Latitude D830 , earlier this week which had Win 7 Pro installed , all of a sudden I started getting "Consider Replacing......" message. Re-installed Win 7 Pro did not help any.
Did the following to fix the problem:
1. Fully Charged Laptop Battery to 100 % , then unplugged power cable, and I let the battery drain (when battery reaches 99 % I started getting the x and consider replacing... message, i ignored that)
2. Fully Drained the battery power , laptop went to hibernate, powered it back on and then it shutdown completely.
3. Went to Bios and see if any power was left, did have 2 % left.
4. waited 15 mins and Laptop completely drained the battery and it could not be powered on.
5.Took the battery out, while the battery was out pressed the power button and drained if any power was left in the laptop.
6.Plugged the a/c adapter cable in the laptop waited 5 mins, powered the up the laptop back.
7.While charging the laptop did not get the error message :)
I am assuming this re-synced the application with the hardware, could be wrong, But its most likely a bug in the Win7.
Problem solved in my case, should this helps other as well.....
Thanks,
one thing tht really confuses me in ur answer is tht uve suggested to charge the battery to "100%" .. well in our cases the battery doesnt reach 100% .. n then u talk about the battery reaching 99% .. well if ur battery was already fully charging, then ur battery was being read correctly by the driver.. m i right? so i guess thts y it worked in ur case?Did what you suggested above, i.e " remove the AC then put it back in... if the X doesnt come back the first time, it will the second time you try this".
fyi did the above multiple times, could not generate the problem again.
The above solution i gave earlier worked for me, which again might not work for others.
Good luck to all who find the solution to this or hopefully you'll can wait for Microsoft to find the solution for you (lol), if one provided by me does for people out there sorry :-) .
Did what you suggested, worked for me. Have restarted 3 times so far, no problem.
I am just not sure if could drain ALL the battery, since I the laptop could still be turned on for like 0.5 sec. But I lost my patience and tried it anyways. As I said, it worked.
Maybe the real solution isn't in draining the battery, but simply turning the computer on without it and then putting it back again. I did not try that, did you?
If anyone is to try this draining solution, maybe you should first try to do only the final part. It could be a simpler solution. (As I said, I didn't try it, but if works, could be a bit easier). Post the result here if you try that.- ok ive tried it twice, it didn't work for me.. in fact, each time it drained my battery life more n more .. initially it charged till 66% .. after 1 try it went down to 55% .. now it only goes upto 46% :\ .. grr! for those whom it worked, can u tell:
- if the 'x' sign disappeared?
- the battery charges quicker?
- the battery charges fully .. upto 100%?
following the steps mentioned above did make the 'x' disappear though .. but the 'consider replacing ur battery' alert persists.. Did what you suggested above, i.e " remove the AC then put it back in... if the X doesnt come back the first time, it will the second time you try this".
I guess everyone has the same issue, but in reality, the cause of the issue could be totally different from one laptop to another. For me at least, when I boot with the battery out and after Windows 7 is loaded, put the battery back in, the x goes away. The problem I'm having is, randomly, when I'm running on battery, and the battery is about to die (still draining at a normal rate. IE: it still lasts about 2 hours) I'll plug it into AC. Sometimes it'll be fine, and charge, but other times the x will appear, but still charge.
fyi did the above multiple times, could not generate the problem again.
The above solution i gave earlier worked for me, which again might not work for others.
Good luck to all who find the solution to this or hopefully you'll can wait for Microsoft to find the solution for you (lol), if one provided by me does for people out there sorry :-) .
.... I really hope someone at Microsoft is reading this thread, or a team of programmers there working on a fix.
- Dan Lee- I am running an XPS 1330. It is driving me crazy that we do not have a fix for this. With the price they are charging for upgrades, this is ridiculous that we have no more information on a solution. I would be thrilled if they would be willing to say that they know it is an issue and they are working on it. But no they can't do that, instead we are stuck trolling Google for solutions. Rolling back to Vista is not a solution. I upgraded for a reason. Fix the problem already. I wish Engadget or Boy Genius Report would pick up this issue and light a fire under Microsoft's ____.
ok ive tried it twice, it didn't work for me.. in fact, each time it drained my battery life more n more .. initially it charged till 66% .. after 1 try it went down to 55% .. now it only goes upto 46% :\ .. grr! for those whom it worked, can u tell:
Your answers:
- if the 'x' sign disappeared?
- the battery charges quicker?
- the battery charges fully .. upto 100%?
following the steps mentioned above did make the 'x' disappear though .. but the 'consider replacing ur battery' alert persists..
- Yes, it did, as did the "consider replacing" message.
- Since you mentioned, it charged REALLY quickly, after 6 or 7 minutes I had about 20%. I usually don't keep track of how fast charging goes, but it did surprise me.
- And yes, it's chargin up to 100%.- Hi,
Thanks it worked for me.
I am having Lenovo Y510
I flushd all power. Like empty whole battery. Then remove battary try to start again. Then pug AC adaptor and properly shutdown the Notebook.
Then put the battary back and start the laptop it worked for me.
Thanks a lot. - i just downgraded to vista again and now my battery is not charging above 46% (this is what windows 7 left me with after constantly draining its charge).. im going to try draining the battery on vista and see if it charges upto 100% .. i'll post the result
- Battery calibration didn't solve the problem for me and my Acer Aspire 5100. Sadly.
- HP Pavilion dv9000t, same problem since the RC. I switched batteries and the problem went away for one charge/discharge cycle, and now it's back. Hope Microsoft gets on this soon ...
- Asus eeepc 900 "modified" for Windows 7 . calibrating battery it doesn't work. With Windows vista (and the same drivers) problems disappear.I think that acpi manage in seven have a BIG problem !
- I have the similar issue on HP DV6000 laptop. It shows "consider replacing your battery". Any solution so far for this problem on Windows 7? Before I switched to Windows 7 32 bit I had no problem with battery on Vista 32 bit.
- 편집됨John_Yang 2009년 11월 17일 화요일 오후 1:36updated
- On my Sony laptop with Windows 7, I have a different problem. The battery drains quick, 100% to 5% in less than 15 min and display message "Plug in or find another power source". Anyone has this issue?. The battery was fine in Vista few weeks ago before I upgraded to windows 7 32 bit OS.
- Same thing with my Gateway 6381-FX John. I`ve disabled the Battery > Microsoft AC Addapter and Microsoft ACPI-Compliant Control Method Battery on Device Manager.
It seams those drivers are pointing to a wrong full charged battery value, I used a software called BatteryCare to figure this out. - Gustavo,
Thanks for the unpdate. If we disable "Battery > Microsoft AC Addapter and Microsoft ACPI-Compliant Control Method Battery on Device Manager", how we do we know how much battery charge is left while it is not plugged in?.
Thanks
John - Same Problem..Windows 7 RTM Professionalhp dv6000How did Microsoft release the Retail version without rectifying this bug??
Same thing with my Gateway 6381-FX John. I`ve disabled the Battery > Microsoft AC Addapter and Microsoft ACPI-Compliant Control Method Battery on Device Manager.
Hi Gustavo , if i disable MS ACPI-compliant control method battery driver batterycare doesn't work. If i re-enable the driver it works but it reads wrong value so i think that each application reads the status from acpi MS driver...(wrong data !! example "wear datta"is 98% !!). If i use "batstats",an application for ASUS battery the data was readed correctly . (i have a netpc asus eeepc900) bye,
It seams those drivers are pointing to a wrong full charged battery value, I used a software called BatteryCare to figure this out.- I am having the same issue with an HP tx2500z Tablet (less than a year old) and a Dell Inspiron e1505, both running Windows 7 Ultimate x64. The Dell will shutoff unexpectedly as previously described. The HP hasn't gotten that bad yet, but I don't want to try and calibrate it because the issues arose AFTER the battery discharged completely and shut down. When I resumed, the message appeared.
Both laptops has the newest BIOS and Chipsets made specifically for Windows 7 x64.
Out of the thousands of employees at Microsoft, can one guy tackle this issue? A tablet that is not mobile becomes a huge waste of money. Unfortunately John I am working without monitoring the battery life, so if the computer is going out of energy Windows will suddenly shut down. But at least I get 40 to 60 minutes of battery life, with Windows 7 management driver I was getting 5 to 10 minutes.
So that’s not a solution but only a workaround I’ve made untill Microsoft resolve this bug.
Thanks,
Gustavo
Now ,So that’s not a solution but only a workaround I’ve made untill Microsoft resolve this bug.
the question is "Microsoft is working to solve the problem or not ??? "
Someone knows the situation ?I'm thinking about to rollback to Windows XP soon ...- Same issue with HP DV2601 TU notebook, I was using Win 7 RC and then upgraded to win 7 RTM same issue.The flashing x on the battery is very annoying please someone find a fix.Inder Rana
More of the same. HP Compaq 6510b with latest BIOS F15 with the same issue. 30+ minutes of battery after upgrading to MSDN Windows 7 Enterprise RTM. Before Windows 7, the battery lasted 1.5+ hours.
I hope everybody here realises it's not a problem with your battery; it's a problem with your current chipsets, this will eventually be fixed because over 400,000 people have complained about this. But it probably won't be brought in until Service Pack 1 for RTM 7.
I smoke yes; When I'm on fire.- why do we need to wait for SP1?
it is a CRITICAL BUG, which microsoft must solve ASAP and release a special fix for.
i am using HP dv6000 and have the same thingl
VIsta sucked = but we didnt had this issue - Wait for SP1? Unbelievable!!
With Windows 7 I can`t use my laptop for a minute without powersupply - No ! i cannot believe that the problem isn't under investigation and microsoft can not wait the rollout of sp1 .Someone with microsoft premier support had already opened an incident report about this topic ?what was the answer ?
- I just installed win7 ultimate on my acer aspire one netbook and found that not only did windows not see the battery, but it wouldn't charge either. i read through this forum and saw some people updated their bios. so i decided to take a look at mine. found there was an updated version. i updated my bios and BAM! now it seems to be charging just fine. i will update with battery life when i have it fully charged.
Thanks for all the help here
~Pete - i was googling and came upon this site i was reading thinking the post was old but its very recent WTH Microsoft so has no windows update fixed this issue does anyone know?
- A solution to your Problem:
My daughter's laptop had startup failure so repair shop ended up replacing hard drive and I reinstalled Windows OS. A couple of weeks later same thing; No startup can't even get into Bios. I removed Battery from Laptop and away it went. No more problems. It was not Windows 7 or a battery complaint specifically, but if you want your portable/lap top to work with no complaints, and better, Remove the Battery. Outside the Box. - Same problem on HP NC6320 business class laptop.
Same problem on HP NC6320 business class laptop.
And on Toshiba Satellite L200.- i have a vostro 1500 (2yrs old) that i upgraded from vista home premium to windows 7 home premium. I am finding that the battery life that should be 8 hours is not holding to 8hours. I am finding after 1 hour it drops down to 3hours, then after a few minutes drops down to 2hours. I have not allowed it to go lower than 2hours. I thought it was the battery so i replaced it with a brand new battery and am finding the exact same problem. I did not have this problem on vista prior to windows 7 upgrade. It seems the problem lies only with the upgraded versions of windows 7. I have a brand new netbook that has a 6hr battery life in it and it is holding the battery life.After reading all of your comments it also seems like it is only if you upgrade from vista to windows 7. Microsoft you really need to fix this bug because i just went out and paid $60 bucks for a new battery to find the same exact thing happening, and it cannot be the battery because it is brand new. Also i have the latest bios on this laptop. i updated the bios prior to installing windows 7 home premium upgrade. Also it does charge and shows it is at 100%.robin
- is not only if you upgrade to 7 , i did a clean install and have the same problem.
No ! i cannot believe that the problem isn't under investigation and microsoft can not wait the rollout of sp1 .
Someone with microsoft premier support had already opened an incident report about this topic ?what was the answer ?
The problem is under investigation, read the Forum dude.
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