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Lync Group Chat solution requirements

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  • Hi..

    I am getting some problem regarding Database server for Group chat service. If I would like to deploy group chat server, then its require another instances of SQL Database. If we go for Compliance service of Group chat then its require another separate Instances of SQL. Or we can only use a separate database Instance for Group chat and group chat Compliance service. If we place High configured Backend Server for Lync frond end pool, can we collocate all databases on that Backend SQL Server for Enterprise edition pool /Monitoring, Archiving/Group chat/Group chat Compliance service?

    Is there any technical limitation to collocate all database service on single SQL Instance. We will use High available SQL Server using Failover clustering.

    Group Chat,

    http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/gg398131.aspx, says that

    You should not collocate the Group Chat database and compliance database (for Group Chat Server) with any database server or with Group Chat Server. These collocations are not supported.

     

    Please clarify..

    Thanks

    Arif

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  • Hi,Arif,

    You can not collocate Group Chat database and Compliance database on the Backend SQL server for EE pool,if you would like to deploy Group Chat server you need another instance of SQL database to store chat history and other system settings and metadata specific to Lync Server 2010, Group Chat;If compliance is required, you can use the same database to store both chat history and compliance data, or you can create a separate database for compliance data. (Note:The database collation must be set to SQL_Latin1_General_CP1_CI_AS as the instance name.)

    The compliance database can be collocated with the Compliance service or Group Chat database,but Compliance Service and Group Chat server/Database cannot be collocated on one server.Thus,if you would like to deploy Group Chat server and Compliance service,you need at least 3 server,one if for deploying Group Chat server,one if for Group Chat database(Or and Compliance Service database),the other is for Group Chat Compliance service and the database for compliance service.You can check http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/gg615006.aspx  and http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/gg398685.aspx  for more details about Group Chat server deploying. 

    Hope this can clarify your question.

    B/R

    Sharon


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  • Thanks Sharon,

    That means we need three server for deploying group chat chat service.

    1. Dedicated SQL Server Instances, which will provide Group chat database and Compliance Database Service

    2. Dedicated Server for Group Chat Service

    3. Dedicated Server for Group chat Compliance service

    Whats the technical limitation, if we place group chat database and compliance databse on the Backend server for FE Pool?

    http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/gg398685

    if we create Databse on the Backend server for FE Pool, whtas the limitation.

    http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/gg412941

    if we used the Backend server for FE Pool to Group chat server, then that should work with Group chat compliance service also

     

    if we would like to archive Group chat, then what will be solution ? As I Know Actiance is the only vendor which can provide the archiving solution for group chat. is there any Microsoft based solution to store users’ behavior within channels and submit this to an auditable store?

    http://social.technet.microsoft.com/wiki/contents/articles/lync-group-chat.aspx

    as per above link,

    If your organization must follow compliance regulations, you can deploy Microsoft Lync Server 2010, Archiving Server to enable archiving support for Lync Server 2010 IM, conferencing, and Group Chat content. Chat room archiving requires deploying the Group Chat Compliance Server.

    Whats the meaning of chat room archiving? since group chat content is archived by Archiving Server?

    Please clarify..

    Thanks

    Arif

     

  • Hi,Arif,

    I am afraid there is no much information explains what the technical limitation when collocated Group Chat database and compliance database on BE server,per my understanding these scenarios should be not tested by Microsoft and no one can make sure there are no affects on each other,the best practice way is isolating different databases on different servers especially their database schemas are different,and it also will make things easier when you need troubleshooting for these services.

    For your question on Chat Room archiving,I think the Group Chat content means the Group Chat IM not the chat history in Chat Room which requires Compliance service for archiving a comprehensive record of activity on the system.

    Hope these useful!

    B/R

    Sharon 


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  • Hi,again,

    By the way,if you would like to reduce the hardware cost you can deploy Group Chat with virtualization,details you can check  http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/gg399035.aspx 

    B/R

    Sharon


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  • Thanks Sharon,

    for clarifiyng about SQL.

    As per I know , the compliance server provides a route for third-party compliance tools to extract and record users behaviour withing channels and submit this to an auditable store. for this we need third-party solution.

    if we deploy only compliance server, can I get the solution for auditing ? or I require Third-party solution with compliance server to achieve that?

    thanks

    Arif

    4 июня 2012 г. 12:25
  • http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd425201(office.13).aspx

    as per above link, its possible to colocate group chat database on Backend SQL.

    12 июля 2012 г. 13:20