domingo, 9 de julho de 2006 09:29
I don't think I've ever asked a question such as this. It's something I should either know or be able to figure out, but I've had not success.
Obviously, I am missing something, even though I have used my unzipping programs for many years.
I've downloaded Vist Beta 2, three times now and get the same results.
The question is now that I have Vista downloaded to a temp file, what do I do? How do I get it to an .iso form for sending to the burner?
Do I leave it all zipped (which doesn't seem right) or unzip it to a folder from where it can be burned? But I haven't been able to figure out how to unzip the Vista program (is it a .exe or folders and files?).
I really don't understand how to get the iso files out. I'm using Rar and Pkuzip.
I have the MD5 for Vista, but what do I compare it to, since the file is inside a zip file that won't let me extract anything.
Thanks for the help. This is my first time working with zipped .iso files and I guess, it shows.
Agains, thanks very much,
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domingo, 9 de julho de 2006 10:56Hi Bob,
Well I don't know where you got the file from, but it should have downloaded as an ISO file. Then just the simple task of burning it to a DVD.
A question...... what size is the download? There were some difficulties with the download for a while, and quite a lot of users reported faulty downloads...
If it's the 64bit version it should be 4.01 GB (4,309,368,832 bytes). The 32 bit version is smaller.
The download sounds a bit funny, I'm not sure that if you used an ISO creator that it would in fact work, as the original ISO file has to be bootable, and if you tried adding the boot function, it would more than likely take the boot options of your present OS.
I presume you have an activation key from MS for the installation, if you don't have one, you'd only be able to use Vista for 30 days as you couldn't activate it.
I also think that MS have now stopped the download as they originally gave a set limit to the availability.
domingo, 9 de julho de 2006 14:56
Bob, where you get the download? The offical download from CONNECT is already a .iso file. You don't need any zip or rar program to unzip or decompress it.
For you info, the file name and size as follow:
The CRC value is :
sábado, 15 de julho de 2006 10:00
Thanks Merlin99uk, RichardWu.,
I’m sorry it’s taken so long to get back to you. I hurt my knee, enough to require an operation. It’s really painful and got me down a bit. Right now it’s 2 a.m.. I’m up because of pain, but feeling well enough to get finally get to computer. Thank you for the answers and for replying so quickly.
In answer to the 1st question, I’m not certain from where I downloaded VISTA, but they were all at MS. One was the public site and the other was the one for Beta testers, which, I’ve finally gotten in to. Yay! It’ll be like the good-old days when I was a software test engineer at INTEL and had to figure out if the problem was with the software or the OS.
Regarding Vista: I made or at least thought I made several good copies. For some reason, my
downloader, brought those in as archived WinRar, which had a text message and then a folder containing VISTA, of which it gave a 3+ GB size for that and the text message was <1KB.
I never could get the .iso file out of the archive, even though it should have been a snap. Then I noticed that the “real” size was 1KB . The zip file was a shortcut! I don’t know where it was a shortcut to. It took a couple of hours for the download to come through, so where is it pointing? I sure can’t find it. And I made six copies, just in case the MD5 didn’t check out
–I guess I lost out on those copies.
I did however find two .iso files that somehow came through as regular .iso.
But, they do not match the name, nor the size that Richard gave.
Richard’s: vista_5384.4_x64fre_client-LB2CxFRE_EN_DVD.iso, 4,109.73 MB
***the name is different. And the size of my file is only14.066 MB. Obviously,
with that size, this one is toast. I’ll have to wait for RC1.
The 32 bit: vista_5384.4_x86fre_client-LB2CFRE_EN_DVD.iso, 3,200.15 MB
Size: 3,276,952 KB ; dividing by 1024 = 3,200.1484 MB.
That’s pretty close to the 3,200.15 MB, but doesn’t quite make it.
Do you think that with the name and size difference, the 32 bit version might be okay?
I haven't done much, in fact no burning of .iso files. I know they are exact images, but other
than that, I don't know how they work.
What I see is one, large file, with a .iso extension.
When this is put on the data DVD, won't it still be just a single file? How do I get to the setup
and other files/folders of VISTA?
Or is it like a self-extracting .exe archive and when called, will automatically go into the install?
Again, I am sorry for seeming to have neglected you. Hopping around on one leg isn’t much fun.
I can’t use crutches, so there’s not much in the way of support or balance. The surgery was no fun, nor the three cortisone shots I have had to try to knock the pain. My surgeon just says “sorry” and the damage that has been done, can’t be repaired. It wasn’t my system being down that kept me from replying but me being down.
It’s after 3 a.m. now. The pain is getting worse. I need to try to sleep It looks like I’m going to have to use Actiq (fentanyl, if I even want a shot at trying to sleep. It is a very powerful narcotic: 40x more so than morphine.
Thanks again for your help. Sure wish I had looked at the “real” size of my 64 bit VISTA instead of what it said inside the WinRar archive. But maybe, I at least got a good 32 bit? I’ll know when I try to run it. That is if a just plain .iso will extract and install.
Hope to hear from you or someone soon on the last two questions I have. And I’ll be able to answer, as I would like. (I even have a six-month temporary handicapped sticker for my car. It’s really hard to walk, sit.)
sábado, 15 de julho de 2006 15:23Hi Bob,
Well first of all, hope you're feeling better......
To answer your question regarding the ISO:
When you burn it will create a complete extracted bootable DVD which will install Vista for you. All you have to do after you've burnt it is to set your DVD drive as primary boot device and restart with the DVD in the drive.
I found writing at 8x screwed the DVD up, write at 4x !!
If you want to have a dual bootable system (I have) I'd recommend you free up a partition on a second drive (if you have one). I installed to Drive 1, Partition 1. and left XP on Drive 0, partition 0.
A note: When you do this, you will see that when in Vista your drives may appear to be reordered. Apparently Vista needs the drive it is on to be called Drive C, even though it is a different logical drive.
Your other system drive (i.e. XP) will be given a different letter but this will be back to normal when you boot to XP.
Don't worry though, the system works fine, just remember the differences if you want to share data between both OS's.
Just thinking, I don't know where you live, but if you're in UK, I could send you a copy of Vista 64bit version... if not well the postage might be too expensive.
sábado, 15 de julho de 2006 17:31
Take care Bob! I hope you can receovery soon.
For the usage of ISO, Merlin have already state it. I think you can try to burn the ISO to the DVD+RW disc first. See whether it work. Although the file size and filename is difference, you can still get a try on it.
The beta program was closed now. NO more download link from MS now. I think you can wait another public cycle if you want to download it again.
segunda-feira, 17 de julho de 2006 17:04
I'll go ahead and burn what I have.
However, my mobo only lets me boot from floppy, HDD, CD.
When the BIOS looks at my hardware, it shows removable (floppy), HDD, CD, other. I might be able to set the DVD to other, but if the BIOS sees the DVD burner as a CD burner, I'm not sure how to get around that.
And it's the latest BIOS for my ABIT mobo.
If I could find real mode drivers for DVD, as I have for the CD burners, I could boot to DOS, with the DVD as one of the opticals.
As it is now, the only way I can operate the DVD as a DVD is through Nero support for it.
--I've been wondering how people boot from their DVD, especiall since my BIOS doesn't see it as such.
Bob (in Utah, USA)
segunda-feira, 17 de julho de 2006 21:05Hi Bob,
It's quite common that a bios might say CD and not DVD in the boot options, it's not a problem.
If you only have the one DVD Drive, just set the boot options in the bios to CD and insert the Vista DVD into the drive, it should boot without any problems.
Don't worry about your present OS not recognising it as a DVD, the Vista bootup doesn't go into Windows.
If you have 2 drives (ie 1 x CD Drive and 1 x DVD Drive), the only way a problem might occur is if your CD is set to Master and DVD to slave on the same cable.
Should that be the case, the solution is simple (well it was for me).
I knew that my CD drive was on the Master on the Secondary IDE channel, and the DVD on the Slave, so all I did was go into the bios and changed the settings for the Secondary Master ( where the CD drive was) from Auto to None, this made the pc ignore the cd drive on boot up, and it went straight to the Secondary Slave (DVD Drive) and carried on booting from there.
Then after Vista booted and installed, I just set the Secondary Master back to Auto.
Final thoughts..... when you burn the DVD, don't forget to burn at the slowest speed. Faster burns don't write the ISO image properly. Also if you're using Nero 7, don't even try installing it on Vista, it won't work !! Get hold of an older Nero Version - I'm using 6.6.x.x
Also for a good working antivirus, i'd suggest getting the beta free version from Avast, works fine ! Had probs with the Trend and Pc-cillin that MS recommend. Norton and McAfee haven't yet got a working Vista version out.
If you need any help, my email is in my profile, contact me.
terça-feira, 18 de julho de 2006 15:21
Antivirus from CA should work on the beta too. You can get a try.
sexta-feira, 28 de julho de 2006 17:48
thanks everyone. Great to get the help.
Still wish I could answer sooner--this being up one day and down the next is really no fun. but what can you do? We only have one body and it's the one God gave us, so we have to live with it (ha).
I am putting in my 200 gig HDDs today. they are PATA. I did have a SATA convertor for one drive which would have given me another primary, but I can find it, sucks.
I'll burn the vista 32 bit iso over to dvd and hope it works. If not, then, nothing lost, after all it is beta and can't be expected to work perfectly or even at all on some platforms.
I'll put on Win2K first and tweak the BIOS, see if I can get it to tell the diff or rather not tell the difference between loading a DVD burner versus a CD burner. And have my DVD actually work as a DVD.
I really appreciate all the help.
I hope I marked everyone as being helpful. My eyes aren't so well from staying up all night in pain. It's time to get rid of this old NEC CRT and go for a 17" flat panel--now I just have to determine if my mobo is putting out a digital signal as well as an analog. I fear that if is only analog, even though there is a fiber optic connection to go to TV. (if only I knew where the manual is??? I guess there is a reason to read it, at times -- lol)
sábado, 29 de julho de 2006 02:53
It's time to close this thread now.