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LAN problem windows 7 (seven)

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  • Hello, i cant solve this problem, i have 3 Computers at my house we use to have windows XP but recently we change to windows 7, 2 of the computers have windows 7 x86 and 1 has windows 7 x64, the problem is that we are having problem with LAN (to play games and stafff) some times you can see 2 computers but 1 is missing another times the 1 is missing shows up and another one doesnt show so i made everything i know; disable all firewall, disable all antivirus, made and remade homegroup, disable ipv6  and activated again, all automatics solutions from LAN wich windows 7 has. this problem is making me crazy i never had this with windows XP!!!! :( here i left out a copy of ipconfig.

    Configuraci¢n IP de Windows

       Nombre de host. . . . . . . . . : Menfis
       Sufijo DNS principal  . . . . . : 
       Tipo de nodo. . . . . . . . . . : h¡brido
       Enrutamiento IP habilitado. . . : no
       Proxy WINS habilitado . . . . . : no
       Lista de b£squeda de sufijos DNS: cantv.net

    Adaptador de Ethernet Conexi¢n de  rea local:

       Sufijo DNS espec¡fico para la conexi¢n. . : cantv.net
       Descripci¢n . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : Controladora Ethernet Gigabit PCI-E 88E8056 Marvell Yukon
       Direcci¢n f¡sica. . . . . . . . . . . . . : 00-15-58-8A-B9-3F
       DHCP habilitado . . . . . . . . . . . . . : s¡
       Configuraci¢n autom tica habilitada . . . : s¡
       V¡nculo: direcci¢n IPv6 local. . . : fe80::88f5:e937:c150:9b4e%11(Preferido) 
       Direcci¢n IPv4. . . . . . . . . . . . . . : 201.211.239.84(Preferido) 
       M scara de subred . . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.224.0
       Concesi¢n obtenida. . . . . . . . . . . . : s bado, 30 de enero de 2010 03:50:07 p.m.
       La concesi¢n expira . . . . . . . . . . . : s bado, 30 de enero de 2010 04:25:58 p.m.
       Puerta de enlace predeterminada . . . . . : 201.211.224.1
       Servidor DHCP . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : 200.109.126.42
       IAID DHCPv6 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : 234886488
       DUID de cliente DHCPv6. . . . . . . . . . : 00-01-00-01-12-86-82-C5-00-15-58-8A-B9-3F
       Servidores DNS. . . . . . . . . . . . . . : 200.44.32.12
                                           200.11.248.12
       NetBIOS sobre TCP/IP. . . . . . . . . . . : habilitado

    Adaptador de t£nel isatap.cantv.net:

       Estado de los medios. . . . . . . . . . . : medios desconectados
       Sufijo DNS espec¡fico para la conexi¢n. . : cantv.net
       Descripci¢n . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : Adaptador ISATAP de Microsoft
       Direcci¢n f¡sica. . . . . . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
       DHCP habilitado . . . . . . . . . . . . . : no
       Configuraci¢n autom tica habilitada . . . : s¡

    Adaptador de t£nel 6TO4 Adapter:

       Sufijo DNS espec¡fico para la conexi¢n. . : cantv.net
       Descripci¢n . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : Adaptador 6to4 de Microsoft
       Direcci¢n f¡sica. . . . . . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
       DHCP habilitado . . . . . . . . . . . . . : no
       Configuraci¢n autom tica habilitada . . . : s¡
       Direcci¢n IPv6 . . . . . . . . . . : 2002:c9d3:ef54::c9d3:ef54(Preferido) 
       Puerta de enlace predeterminada . . . . . : 2002:c058:6301::c058:6301
       Servidores DNS. . . . . . . . . . . . . . : 200.44.32.12
                                           200.11.248.12
       NetBIOS sobre TCP/IP. . . . . . . . . . . : deshabilitado

    Adaptador de t£nel Conexi¢n de  rea local* 6:

       Sufijo DNS espec¡fico para la conexi¢n. . : 
       Descripci¢n . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : Teredo Tunneling Pseudo-Interface
       Direcci¢n f¡sica. . . . . . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
       DHCP habilitado . . . . . . . . . . . . . : no
       Configuraci¢n autom tica habilitada . . . : s¡
       Direcci¢n IPv6 . . . . . . . . . . : 2001:0:4137:9e74:34cb:1de1:362c:10ab(Preferido) 
       V¡nculo: direcci¢n IPv6 local. . . : fe80::34cb:1de1:362c:10ab%14(Preferido) 
       Puerta de enlace predeterminada . . . . . : 
       NetBIOS sobre TCP/IP. . . . . . . . . . . : deshabilitado


    please i need HELP!!!!!
    Saturday, January 30, 2010 8:45 PM

Answers

  • Buy a router.  ;)

    That ipconfig dump (thanks for that, by the way!) tells me that your computer isn't on a LAN - rather, it's directly connected to the internet.
    I'll hazard a guess that you have a simple switch connected to an ISP-supplied modem.  Therein lies your problem - your PCs are trying to resolve local names against the internet (which they can't do), rather than each other (what they should be doing.)
    Get a router.  Your sharing issues will magically disappear once your PCs (and everything else) are on a LAN.

    HTH,
    Chris
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    • Marked as answer by Menfis182 Tuesday, February 02, 2010 5:05 PM
    Sunday, January 31, 2010 6:22 AM

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  • Buy a router.  ;)

    That ipconfig dump (thanks for that, by the way!) tells me that your computer isn't on a LAN - rather, it's directly connected to the internet.
    I'll hazard a guess that you have a simple switch connected to an ISP-supplied modem.  Therein lies your problem - your PCs are trying to resolve local names against the internet (which they can't do), rather than each other (what they should be doing.)
    Get a router.  Your sharing issues will magically disappear once your PCs (and everything else) are on a LAN.

    HTH,
    Chris
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    • Marked as answer by Menfis182 Tuesday, February 02, 2010 5:05 PM
    Sunday, January 31, 2010 6:22 AM
  • Ty brother for trying to help me, the thing is that i never have present this problems before with windows XP my LAN is the same as always before when i had XP, never got this problem so why now am going to present a problem with windows 7?? my LAN and internet connection is like this:


    1PC---
            ! 
    2PC--------SWITCH (8 slots)-------------- INTERNET MODEM
            !   
    3PC---


    Monday, February 01, 2010 4:15 PM
  • I would venture to say that the modem has a built-in router providing several IP addresses.
    In this case the best thing to do is to specify the ip address of the host pc to the client pc.
    If the games do not allow for an ip address then the next thing to do would be to setup a vpn
    Monday, February 01, 2010 10:37 PM
  • Please post your ipconfig /all data from all 3 machines and are you using Homegroup for your LAN configuration because with all Windows 7 machines and your configuration you've shown that would be a good way to set it up. Here's a FAQ about homegroup network http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows7/HomeGroup-frequently-asked-questions which is where you can start at. Also turn on Network Discovery along with enabling File and Print Sharing. You've got to have IPv6 enabled for homegroup. Do you have any 3rd party securty suites/firewalls installed and if so, did you disable Windows 7 firewall to prevent conflicts. Some firewall software has to be completely uninstalled to prevent problems as they'll continue to provide firewall restrictions even when disabled. Some antivirus programs can also cause problems. Also turn off power saving on all network adapters on each machine, it will drive you nuts if you don't wondering why suddenly the adapter doesn't work when you think it should be working (doesn't detect activity very well)

    Which versions of Windows and which network locations can use HomeGroup?

    Computers must be running Windows 7 to participate in a homegroup. HomeGroup is available in all editions of Windows 7. In Windows 7 Starter and Windows 7 Home Basic, you can join a homegroup, but you can’t create one. HomeGroup only works on networks with the Home network location.

    To change a network location

    1. Open Network and Sharing Center by clicking the Start button Picture of the Start button, and then clicking Control Panel. In the search box, type network, and then click Network and Sharing Center.

    2. Click Work network, Home network, or Public network, and then click the network location you want.

       

      Picture of Network and Sharing CenterNetwork and Sharing Center

       

    Note

    Computers that belong to a domain can join a homegroup, but they can't share files with the homegroup. They can only access files shared by others.

    How do I delete a homegroup?

    If everyone leaves the homegroup, it will no longer exist. For more information, see Leave a homegroup.

    Who can see the libraries shared with my homegroup?

    Only those people who belong to the homegroup can see shared libraries. You can also share libraries or individual files and folders with specific people in your homegroup, rather than sharing with everyone. For more information, see Share libraries with your homegroup and Keep specific files and folders from being shared with a homegroup.


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    Monday, February 01, 2010 11:41 PM
  • Having public IP's makes it hard to network, plus the boxes will be a target for those wannbe hackers.

    He needs a router.
    Monday, February 01, 2010 11:58 PM
  • Ty brother for trying to help me, the thing is that i never have present this problems before with windows XP my LAN is the same as always before when i had XP, never got this problem so why now am going to present a problem with windows 7?? my LAN and internet connection is like this:


    1PC---
            ! 
    2PC--------SWITCH (8 slots)-------------- INTERNET MODEM
            !   
    3PC---



    And, that right there is your problem.  Frankly, I'm quite surprised that it 'worked' in XP.  I've seen quite a few 'all-XP' "networks" that were set up exactly as yours is; all had the issues (such as name resolution failing) that you're currently having.  Instaling a router (and, thereby creating a proper Local Area Network) fixes it.  It'll fix yours, as well.

    @ crontab, and cdobbs:
    The OP's ipconfig tells that he's connecting multiple PCs directly to the internet; his post quoted here confirms it.  No modem/router (the local IPs would be RFC1918-compliant private IP addresses if that were the case);
    And, I really don'y see the need for an ipconfig dump from the other two machines.  It'll tell the same tale as does the first - machines are all connected directly to the internet.
    Bubbapcguy is right - public IP addresses on the machines makes it a PITA (at best!) to network them locally, and exposes them to the perils of the 'net.  Attempting to enable local sharing (which, in this config, isn't 'local', but is really sharing with the entire internet, increases those perils to OMG levels.)  Menfis needs a router, right quick.

    -Chris
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    Tuesday, February 02, 2010 3:23 AM
  • Thank you guys for your concern and hospitality here, I have solve the problem with the Router, like this:




                                                                                                              _________3PC
                                                                                                             ¡                
                                                                                                             ¡
    [InternetModem]-----------------------[Router]-------------[8ports switch]--¡------------1PC
                                                                                                             ¡
                                                                                                             ¡_________2PC



    now i can see always my LAN with the 3 computers on it and share our files.....

    thank you.. if anyone is having the same problem this is the way to solve it...!!!
    Tuesday, February 02, 2010 5:10 PM
  • You're welcome.  Glad to help, and thanks for the feedback.  :)

    Regards,
    Chris
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    Tuesday, February 02, 2010 10:42 PM