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How do you search system and Hidden files?

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  • One thing that has driven me NUTS about Windows Vista and Windows 7 is the lack of search functionality. They have made it SO stupid that it can't find anything.

    I am trying to do a search in Windows 7 for .admx files and there is no search on the right click and the idiot search in the start bar gives me nothing. I know the files are there.

    Where is the real search gone and how do I get it back for the right click with Windows 7?
    lforbes
    Wednesday, May 13, 2009 8:57 PM

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  • I am able to see .admx files though the standard search, provided I have Show Hidden Files checked under Organize ->  Folder and search options -> View. Hope that works for you.
    Wednesday, May 13, 2009 10:15 PM
  • The only indexed location is the Users folder. I have Show Hidden Files enabled and have unticked "Hide Protected Operating System Files" too.

    I have found that the search under Vista won't show anything in the Windows Directory.

    I have actually found a setting to turn off indexing when searching in file folders and system files in Windows 7 RC so that may fix it. Hopefully I can get that as a Domain setting.
    lforbes
    lforbes,


    In the search options (within folder options... the next tab over from where you unchecked 'hide protected operating system files') there is a section called 'When searching non-indexed locations' and under that is a checkbox labelled 'Include System Directories'.
    • Marked as answer by lforbes Friday, May 29, 2009 6:15 AM
    Friday, May 29, 2009 1:43 AM
  • To extend the search indexing for looking into file contents (if I understood your problem right), go to Control Panel -> Index options -> Extended settings -> File types and set the checkbox at the bottom to "Search properties and contents".
    Mob. AMD64 3000+, 1 G RAM, Mob. ATIRadeon9700, 20x DVDRW, C:XPSP3 (55G),D:WIN7 (25G),F:DATA (250G)
    • Marked as answer by lforbes Sunday, May 31, 2009 1:06 AM
    Friday, May 29, 2009 10:38 AM

All replies

  • Try using a wildcard: *.admx
    Wednesday, May 13, 2009 9:16 PM
  • I have used "Agent Ransack" for many releases, now.

    Kris
    Wednesday, May 13, 2009 10:03 PM
  • I am able to see .admx files though the standard search, provided I have Show Hidden Files checked under Organize ->  Folder and search options -> View. Hope that works for you.
    Wednesday, May 13, 2009 10:15 PM
  • The only indexed location is the Users folder. I have Show Hidden Files enabled and have unticked "Hide Protected Operating System Files" too.

    I have found that the search under Vista won't show anything in the Windows Directory.

    I have actually found a setting to turn off indexing when searching in file folders and system files in Windows 7 RC so that may fix it. Hopefully I can get that as a Domain setting.
    lforbes
    Thursday, May 14, 2009 9:06 PM
  • Searching for system files or any file not in an indexed location was a teethgrinding pain in Vista. In my opinion the search function in vista is all but useless. I came here right now because I can't get it to work. I was checking to see if I had duplicates of a file on my machine so I cut & pasted the file name gave it the drive it was on told it search in non indexed locations and it simply can not find a file that I'm staring at in explorer.

    In Win7 it looks like they've eliminated the problem by getting rid of advanced search - so problem solved - there is no search function in Win7
    Friday, May 29, 2009 1:02 AM
  • The only indexed location is the Users folder. I have Show Hidden Files enabled and have unticked "Hide Protected Operating System Files" too.

    I have found that the search under Vista won't show anything in the Windows Directory.

    I have actually found a setting to turn off indexing when searching in file folders and system files in Windows 7 RC so that may fix it. Hopefully I can get that as a Domain setting.
    lforbes
    lforbes,


    In the search options (within folder options... the next tab over from where you unchecked 'hide protected operating system files') there is a section called 'When searching non-indexed locations' and under that is a checkbox labelled 'Include System Directories'.
    • Marked as answer by lforbes Friday, May 29, 2009 6:15 AM
    Friday, May 29, 2009 1:43 AM
  • The only indexed location is the Users folder. I have Show Hidden Files enabled and have unticked "Hide Protected Operating System Files" too.

    I have found that the search under Vista won't show anything in the Windows Directory.

    I have actually found a setting to turn off indexing when searching in file folders and system files in Windows 7 RC so that may fix it. Hopefully I can get that as a Domain setting.
    lforbes
    lforbes,


    In the search options (within folder options... the next tab over from where you unchecked 'hide protected operating system files') there is a section called 'When searching non-indexed locations' and under that is a checkbox labelled 'Include System Directories'.

    Thanks. I did have that checked on Vista. It "appears" to be the solution. I guess I will pick a system file name and search and see if it will find it.  Didn't have much luck with Vista even with it checked before.

    Now only if they would bring back "search inside file". I used that a LOT.

    Cheers,
    Lara
    lforbes
    Friday, May 29, 2009 6:18 AM
  • To extend the search indexing for looking into file contents (if I understood your problem right), go to Control Panel -> Index options -> Extended settings -> File types and set the checkbox at the bottom to "Search properties and contents".
    Mob. AMD64 3000+, 1 G RAM, Mob. ATIRadeon9700, 20x DVDRW, C:XPSP3 (55G),D:WIN7 (25G),F:DATA (250G)
    • Marked as answer by lforbes Sunday, May 31, 2009 1:06 AM
    Friday, May 29, 2009 10:38 AM
  • One thing that worked for me was to uncheck "use the index" in search options after which it finds system and hidden files.
    Saturday, May 30, 2009 5:14 AM
  • To extend the search indexing for looking into file contents (if I understood your problem right), go to Control Panel -> Index options -> Extended settings -> File types and set the checkbox at the bottom to "Search properties and contents".
    Mob. AMD64 3000+, 1 G RAM, Mob. ATIRadeon9700, 20x DVDRW, C:XPSP3 (55G),D:WIN7 (25G),F:DATA (250G)

    Thanks for that information. I never thought to look under indexing options. So many things are in different places in Vista/7 and I have noticed that even between Vista and 7 things have changed.

    It is checked when I go there but it doesn't work like XP did. I used to always be able to search inside .adm, .txt, .inf and .ini without issue.

    Thanks for the information though.

    Cheers,
    Lara
    lforbes
    Sunday, May 31, 2009 1:06 AM
  •  

    ...look under indexing options.  So many things are in different places...





    I agree.  It's hard not to criticize when it's unsightly and difficult like that.



    Now did they do a "video" on how things are different somewhere? I know with Office they did quite a bit because I have directed my users to watch it when we switched to 2007. However, with Vista even the help menu is completely Useless to find where they put things that you used to be able to do in XP.
    lforbes
    Sunday, May 31, 2009 2:55 AM
  • lforbes,

    Absolutely. Please visit the Microsoft Springboard site, there are several videos and many pages of information.
    Sunday, May 31, 2009 2:58 AM
  • lforbes,

    Absolutely. Please visit the Microsoft Springboard site, there are several videos and many pages of information.

    Thanks. They just seem to focus on the highlights though not the base structure information that a Network Administrator would need to know like how the profiles have all moved, even administrators have lost control of the registry etc. I guess I could spend a lot of time finding everything as that is the way I have learned OS since Windows NT 3 however the funny thing is things have been pretty much the same on the client side since Windows NT 4.  I don't care about the highlights like UAC (I disable it entirely) and the added GUI stuff because we don't use it.

    I have Windows 7 and am slowly taking it apart piece by piece and will be documenting everything I find on my website for Network Admins. http://www.sd61.bc.ca/windows2000/

    Thanks for the info.

    Cheers,
    Lara
    lforbes
    Sunday, May 31, 2009 3:09 AM
  • lforbes,

    Did you go through the 3 adoption lifecycle buttons near the top of the page? They do get more technical the further in you go. There just aren't many videos yet.
    Sunday, May 31, 2009 3:12 AM
  • lforbes,

    Did you go through the 3 adoption lifecycle buttons near the top of the page? They do get more technical the further in you go. There just aren't many videos yet.

    Yes I have read most of the technet documentation on the MS website including all their technet library here http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd349779.aspx

    It isn't just there though. I understand Windows 7 is new. However, even for Vista a lot of the issues/changes weren't addressed except by techs like myself posting them on blogs, forums and websites.

    99% of the stuff I learned about Vista was from a 3rd party site. I still won't implement Vista in my Domain unless I am forced to because we can't find XP drivers.  Therefore it is Windows 7 I am focusing on hacking to make it as much like XP as possible.

    I work in a domain where my users are not experienced computer users. Changes scare them and if they are even as simple as moving the logoff or changing where the documents are located it will be quite a challenge for me to implement.  I personally have only 3500 users but I am also one of two techs in my organization with the most seniority so what we learn is passed along to the other techs that cover the other 50,000 users in the organization.
    lforbes
    Sunday, May 31, 2009 6:23 PM
  • Actually I found this video. It does cover some cool features although I would like it to cover all instead of the highlights but it is a start

    http://technet.microsoft.com/en-ca/windows/dd758778.aspx
    lforbes
    • Proposed as answer by KeysofSD Thursday, April 12, 2012 9:54 PM
    • Unproposed as answer by KeysofSD Thursday, April 12, 2012 9:54 PM
    Sunday, May 31, 2009 6:33 PM
  • One thing that has driven me NUTS about Windows Vista and Windows 7 is the lack of search functionality. They have made it SO stupid that it can't find anything.

    I am trying to do a search in Windows 7 for .admx files and there is no search on the right click and the idiot search in the start bar gives me nothing. I know the files are there.

    Where is the real search gone and how do I get it back for the right click with Windows 7?
    lforbes

    Hi,

    If you have access to a CMD prompt you can easilly search for all files within a folder(and sub folders) for hidden files (in windows 7).

    Just use the CMD prompt - cd to the directory you would like to search (example C:\Temp) then type in this cmd
    dir /S *.* /AH

    this will Display all hidden files and the folders that they are in.

    Good luck in your IT career.

    KeysofSD

    Thursday, April 12, 2012 9:57 PM
  •   BOY THAT THE TRUTH YOU HAVE TO GO THOUGH EVERY THING TO GET TO ONE AND WHY DO YOU AWAYS IN UP WITH 5 LOCTIONS OF EACH FILE??

    Wednesday, August 14, 2013 8:23 PM