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Bad OSes and the fanboys who love them

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  • The user in this thread thought that the all new start orb behavior is a bug:
    Will Microsoft be fixing the issue with start button, where if one is using a mouse and moves to the bottom left side of screen to make the Start button appear

    Hillarious.

    Nothing against the OP, but that post is further proof what a trainwreck Win8 is.

    Reading the amazon.com comments on Windows 8 is equally good fun:

    http://www.amazon.com/review/R87XKJNHJLKTX/ref=cm_cr_pr_perm?ie=UTF8&ASIN=B008H3SW4I&linkCode=&nodeID=&tag

    Apple is missing a golden opportunity if they do not bring back the PC guy and
    Mac guy commercials. I have used every version of Windows since Windows 2 and
    this is the worst. Most user unfriendly system I have ever used. I needed a new
    computer and bought computer with windows 8 because I had not choice. When you
    have to go out on the internet to find out how to shutdown your computer, that
    is a problem. I have to use Safari browser to download software. Common programs
    such as Adobe acrobat reader would not download and install using internet
    explorer. When I tried to download IE 9 my computer states it is installed, but
    I have not a clue as to how to search for it, since I cannot find a search box
    as in other versions of Windows. This may force me to buy a MAC. If you are
    using Windows 7 or Windows Vista or XP. DO NOT UPGRADE!!!

    After going through some of these helpless pleas of Windows 8 victims I invented a game - "Designofail". It involves reconstructing Sinofksy's genius design decisions to find out which of them drove the user to tears.

    In this case, the user tried to wrestle the beast known as Metro IE, but the beast withstood taming, almost like the beasts in the Bible. Metro IE has problems running the installers of software like Adobe Reader, which like only 99% of the computer using populace is using. Since Sinosky's motto was "no compromise", any double digit percentage number, no matter how high, was not enough to change course.

    The user probably used the search function to find software in previous versions, and now that this function is gone, his/her navigation is utterly broken. Oh, I know what you want to say: "But VeryBoringNickname! Windows 8 HAS a search function, I used it myself searching for the power off button!"

    Ya, sure, and there's a chance that below your feet right now is a huge oil field.. if you only knew that! The Metro start screen offers absolutely no indication that it is searchable. It's full of little news items and ad-like graphics. It resembles something like cnn.com, only that CNN HAS a search box! Would you "just start typing" at cnn.com, if the site had no visible search box?

    Let's move to Paul Thurrot where it is announced that Win8 sales are below internal projections (surprise). A commenter weighs in:

    http://winsupersite.com/windows-8/windows-8-sales-well-below-projections-plenty-blame-go-around#comments

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    I heard from first couple of people who bought cheap (as majority of people do) Widows 8 laptops and boy the hate them! They can't find Start menu which for them means there are no apps in desktop mode. They go to App Store where they still can't find their favourite programs, or if they find and install they don't work way they expect (i.e. Skype). They go to Internet (using Metro IE version) and it doesn't play videos on their favourite websites (flash). They open a file from desktop and it opens in full screen Metro app with no obvious way to close it...

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    Let's go designofail on this one.. Oh, I can already hear you! "They can't find Start Menu"? But VeryBoringNickname,  there IS a Start Screen! I use it to pin my favourite porn sites onto it!" Yea, but Grandmaster S. has forgotten to add an MRU list to it! DOH!

    How do users find newly installed programs usually? The Start Menu highlights newly installed programs until you start them. The fullscreen successor does not and drowns them instead in a seizure inducing mass of jiggling squares.

    Designofail on Skype: Notro Skype is a debacle: "Insanely unintuitive, The idea that one's parents were sitting in front of this piece of software is funny and sad at the same time,  made the editorial shaking their heads in disbelief".

    They open a file from desktop and it opens in full screen Metro app with no obvious way to close it... - They wanted to simplify Windows 8. That's why instead of clicking on an easy to spot bright red X, (that's faaar to power use for the common idiot to understand) you need to "grab" the application by its invisible head and drag it down the drain so that it can disappear. At least the approach is very apt for Windows 8 so far.

    Welcome to the wonderful world of Windows 8! Were tasks get simplified by invisible controls, and computer newbies get help by removing any visual cues. I hope you tune in next week when Steven Sinofsky shows you on his new show on cable how fishing is far more easier using screwdrivers and toothbrushes instead of fishing rods. Stay tuned!

    Sunday, November 18, 2012 3:27 PM

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  • On Sun, 18 Nov 2012 15:27:56 +0000, VeryBoringNickname wrote:

    The user in this thread <http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/w8itprogeneral/thread/31c1fcb0-4d65-45d7-8b2d-394a78d37df9>?thought that the all new start orb behavior is a bug:

    Will Microsoft be fixing the issue with start button, where if one is using a mouse and moves to the bottom left side of screen to make the Start button appear

    Hillarious.

    Nothing against the OP, but that post is further proof what a trainwreck?Win8?is.

    You've missed the point of the OP. He's not saying that the lack of a Start
    button is a bug, he's complaining that when the Start charm is invoked, it
    doesn't take much mouse movement for it to go away again.


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    Sunday, November 18, 2012 3:31 PM
  • In any case, it is a very fine satire.  Thank you firstly VBN, and Paul for contributing.


    Thanks!

    You know, Windows 8 is becoming something like my inspiration (guess that's true for ADRz as well). I noticed that I can write huge posts about without any effort at all, it's as if they write like themselves. Win 8 is such a easy target, you could write them blind.

    I wish I could get a similar effective inspiration for something more important, one could write a bestseller in days.

    Sunday, November 18, 2012 8:19 PM
  • In any case, it is a very fine satire.  Thank you firstly VBN, and Paul for contributing.


    Thanks!

    You know, Windows 8 is becoming something like my inspiration (guess that's true for ADRz as well). I noticed that I can write huge posts about without any effort at all, it's as if they write like themselves. Win 8 is such a easy target, you could write them blind.

    I wish I could get a similar effective inspiration for something more important, one could write a bestseller in days.

    I could not but respond to this!!!  Yes, I believe Win8 will remain for years to come a prime example of a product designed in such a way as to induce corporate suicide.  It is as if FORD took its best selling truck and re-designed it as to be both a heavy-duty truck and a nibble town commuter!!  This combination is impossible and leads to too many compromises.  The same is true for Win8: one cannot marry a portable OS and a heavy-duty desktop OS in a product that makes sense.  Apparently, following the release of Win8, Apple is doing just great.  Check the following link. Although it is a very limited survey, it says a story that is co-fluent with other reports. Win8 has not only failed to revive PC sales, it has actually weakened them because of user indecision and uncertainty as to what Win8 actually is.

    http://www.tapscape.com/windows-8-fail-42-of-prospective-buyers-going-apple/

    So, now that Sinofski is out, what is going to happen?  Despite what all of you may hope, I do not think that there would be a any great revelation event at Microsoft.  Ballmer's job is just too tied to seeing this debacle through and emerging with something resembling a victory.  So, my prediction is that following Sinofski's departure and the poor sales of Win8 (real and projected), the desktop mode of Win8 will be removed faster than one expects.  Win8 in a year will be transformed into a homogeneous portable OS competing against iOS and Android.  Now, it remains questionable if Microsoft would ever bother to release a desktop variant.  My guess is that it is unlikely to do this in the near term, because it would destroy the portable OS in its infancy.   Microsoft will go "all tablet" all the way.

    What will happen to the desktop?  This would be interesting.  Microsoft may continue selling Win7, but my guess is that new solutions will emerge.  Intel and the current assembly of OEMs have a substantial interest in finding a solution.  


    Sunday, November 18, 2012 11:44 PM