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User Experience Virtualization UE-V and Profiles

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  • Just starting to play with UE-V and here are some observations/questions...

    I was hoping to use UE-V in place of Roaming Profiles but actually if you remove all roaming profiles and local profiles (ie delete local profiles at logoff) the user logon experience is very slow because Windows has to create a new profile every time a user logs in, and so processes things like active setup which take some time.

    Is it going to be best practice to use a mandatory profile then use UE-V to capture user customization?  I am really looking at speeding up logon times but as I am using this in a public IT area I do not have profiles cached on C drives.  Currently the roaming profile loads, which can take a long time.  

    Thanks

    Wednesday, November 07, 2012 5:09 PM

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  • I have exactly the same question. Is this just like flex profile kit so use a mandatory profile?

    Tuesday, November 13, 2012 11:46 AM
  • Would be useful if there was actually a UE-V forum somewhere with answers from those in the know.  Whilst it is very easy to configure and deploy UE-V there seems to be no guidance on how to integrate it with the rest of your systems.  If you turn off roaming profiles then users get a long delay when they log in to a new machine as it has to run active setup etc to configure a new profile and if you use roaming profiles you are defeating the object of using UE-V.
    Thursday, November 15, 2012 2:23 PM
  • Hi,

    For more information regarding mandatory roaming profile please see the following links:

    Create a mandatory user profile: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc786301(v=WS.10).aspx

    Using User Profiles in Windows Server 2003: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc776120(v=WS.10).aspx

    Regards,

    Denny


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    Monday, November 26, 2012 6:23 AM
  • That's not the answer to the question, the question is if it's best practice to use mandatory profiles with UE-V.

    I think we all know how to create a mandatory profile.

    Monday, December 03, 2012 8:30 PM
  • Yes, that is exactly the question I need answering!  There currently seems to be no forums or blogs where we can get answers on this product.  Can UE-V deal with mandatory profiles and then save customization independently via UE-V?  This seems like the logical thing to do, I don't want to use UE-V and Roaming Profiles as this would still mean streaming down a roaming profile which is currently our biggest issue.  Even with a 25MB limit the time to log in can go into minutes when logging into a machine which you have never used before/does not have a locally cached version of your profile.
    Wednesday, December 12, 2012 1:43 PM
  • Hi Alan,

    we have the same situation.

    At the moment we will test to disable Active Setup Components: Delete the Registry-Keys below HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Active Setup\Installed Components with a 'StubPath'-Key.

    The next problem is to delete the locale profile after logoff. - Do you have an idea?

    If you will test with mandatory profiles, read this: http://www.sepago.de/d/helge/2010/12/13/mandatory-profiles-ae-insecure-by-default

    Best regards

    Daniel

    Sunday, December 23, 2012 1:54 PM
  • Hi Daniel,

    We are continuing to look at this, sadly there appears to be no dedicated forum for this product or any input from Microsoft Personnel who know what they are doing.

    Other than using Mandatory Profile I guess options could include using a default roaming profile which is very slim then prevent users from being able to write back to it so it never changes.  Perhaps even it may be possible to use roaming profile folder exclusions to exclude all of the Roaming folder so UE-V can handle that instead and just let the roaming profile handle the registry (even though UE-V does this as well).

    Strange really if you still need to use a Roaming profile I don't really see what benefits it will bring other than changes in settings being written to your UE-V settings path in real time, which is only a benefit if you are using two or more machines at once.


    Tuesday, January 08, 2013 10:36 AM
  • Hi Alan,

    yes a dedicated forum is necessary. - But i can't find anything elese.

    No Roaming Profiles are not the solution. - But Mandatory Profiles are not secure :-(
    We will use local profiles with with UE-V. The profiles are removed via GPO-Logoff-Script (set to temporary profile) or on server restart (Citrix PVS).

    Now we search a solution to create a xml-template with the AciveSetup-Keys and necessary files.

    We will see - and wait for other peoples with same problem ;-))

    Best regards

    Daniel

    Tuesday, January 08, 2013 8:51 PM
  • We looked at using local profiles only, but UE-V won't keep hold of Outlook 2010 settings/profiles so each time the user logs in you have to configure Outlook again...
    Wednesday, January 09, 2013 9:10 AM
  • Hi Alan

    That's because the Messaging Subsystem Reg Key is not captured by the Office Template. But I'd suggest to save the key in a desktop settings template, as it's used by other applications also.

    Have a look at my enhanced desktop settings template

    http://gallery.technet.microsoft.com/UE-V-Settings-Location-16bc7ce4

    Rgds

    Michael

    Tuesday, January 29, 2013 1:06 PM
  • UE-V v1 is designed to leveraged in conjunction with Folder Redirection to provide for a more granular approach to roaming settings for applications. Not all OS settings roam with the first release but that could likely change in subsequent ones.

    There is now a UEV forum available:

    http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/mdopuev/threads


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    Thursday, February 21, 2013 9:53 PM