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  • Hi,

    I have installed Windows 8 consumer preview. So what happens when the preview version ends (when the actual full version of windows 8 is released). Will the preview version expire automatically?, will it ask for an upgrade?.

    Thanks

    Nik

    Wednesday, March 07, 2012 1:18 PM

Answers

  • On Thu, 8 Mar 2012 13:56:01 +0000, NikulP wrote:

    I never said I "don't want to buy the full version", that was only my question.

    Which is what I was addressing based on what you stated in your original
    post.

    The reason being I already had a genunie valid copy of win7 proffessional before I installed win8 consumer preview, microsoft already says on their website that before installing we check whether your current copy of windows is valid and has a genuine key.

    I don't understand what you're trying to say here. What does one thing have
    to do with the other?


    So my original question was to say that if I already had a valid copy, why should I not be allowed to either roll back to my previous win7 proff version which i was more than happy with or be allowed to use the preview? That goes to say that whoever is downloading and trialling out win8 preview verison is tied into buying it later on!! If so then it is a rip off by MS!!!

    You're not reading this correctly. The statement about not being able to
    roll-back to a previous version of Windows 7 does not mean that once you've
    installed the Windows 8 Consumer preview that you're not allowed to go
    back to your previous version of Windows, it simply means that there's no
    way to simply uninstall the Windows 8 CP and somehow magically back to
    where you were before. This is a warning about a technical limitation, not
    a warning about any kind of legal or licensing block. To state that by
    installing the CP you are somehow locked into purchasing the final version
    of Windows 8 clearly shows that you're not understanding this point.

    There are any number of ways to return to Windows 7:

    1. Use the original Windows 7 media that came with your computer (if it
    came with any) to reinstall Windows 7.
    2. If you're computer didn't come with install media, you can order it for
    a nominal fee from either your OEM or Microsoft as long as you have a valid
    product key.
    3. Use your OEM's automated restore feature.
    4. Restore from a valid backup that was taken before attempting to install
    a pre-release version of a new operating system on your computer.

    No one is forcing you to stay with Windows 8 if you choose not to do so.


    Paul Adare
    MVP - Forefront Identity Manager
    http://www.identit.ca
    There must be more to life than compile-and-go.

    • Marked as answer by NikulP Friday, March 09, 2012 2:22 PM
    Thursday, March 08, 2012 2:22 PM
  • There is no official upgrade path from the consumer preview to the RTM version, this is most likely not the last beta version they will release and for each version it will be required to do a clean install again.

    The FAQ does not explicitly state this but it does mention:

    You're comfortable backing up a PC, formatting a hard drive, and installing an operating system from scratch.

    Here you can find the Windows 8 FAQ which should answer any other question have about Windows 8:

    Windows 8 Consumer Preview: Frequently asked questions


    • Edited by Jaap Brasser Wednesday, March 07, 2012 1:32 PM
    • Marked as answer by NikulP Friday, March 09, 2012 2:22 PM
    Wednesday, March 07, 2012 1:24 PM
  • On Wed, 7 Mar 2012 13:46:09 +0000, NikulP wrote:

    ok, so once the full version is released and out for sale, will this consumer preview stop working (say if we dont want to buy the full version)?

    Yes it will, and even if it didn't stop working, just because you "don't
    want to buy the full version" doesn't mean that you'd have a legal right to
    continue to use any pre-release version for as long as you felt like using
    it.

    If you don't feel like paying for software then you should switch to Linux.


    Paul Adare
    MVP - Forefront Identity Manager
    http://www.identit.ca
    A computer scientist is someone who fixes things that aren't broken.

    • Marked as answer by NikulP Friday, March 09, 2012 2:22 PM
    Wednesday, March 07, 2012 1:51 PM
  • To give you an idea how Microsoft has dealed with pre-release versions of Windows you can have a look here, since there is no official release date for Windows 8 such information is not yet available. Rest assured that you will not be able to continue on using Windows 8 after release:

    Effective August 1, 2009, Windows 7 Beta expires:
    • Windows starts to a black desktop
    • Windows 7 Beta users are presented with a Windows Activation Expired dialog box during logon and then again every hour.
    • Computers that are running Windows 7 Beta restart every two hours

    http://support.microsoft.com/kb/971767

    • Marked as answer by NikulP Friday, March 09, 2012 2:22 PM
    Wednesday, March 07, 2012 4:11 PM
  • Most likely, there will be another "public" available free, pre-release edition called "Release Candidate (RC)."  However, being that MSFT renamed beta to Customer Preview, they will probably give the RC a new name also.

    At this stage, beta, MSFT will solicit and take feedback (although it might not seem like it) and make significant changes to the OS--to both the architecture and the UI.  At the RC stage, the OS is considered complete and MSFT will only be soliciting bug reports to existing features.

    Once the RC is complete, the OS goes to RTM.  At that time, if you want Windows 8, YOU MUST PURCHASE IT.  Most likely, there will be no upgrade path from the beta/RC releases--only from previous RTM supported releases such as Windows 7, etc.

    • Marked as answer by NikulP Friday, March 09, 2012 2:22 PM
    Thursday, March 08, 2012 3:19 AM
  • Hi,

    I have installed Windows 8 consumer preview. So what happens when the preview version ends (when the actual full version of windows 8 is released). Will the preview version expire automatically?, will it ask for an upgrade?.

    Thanks

    Nik

    Hi

    The Windows 8 CP expires on January 15th, 2013.

    As others have already said, there will probably be one more version prior to the final version. This next preview version will have an expiration date sometime after the current CP expiration date.

    When the final version is released, you will be required to purchase that final version.

    Regards

    • Proposed as answer by Jaap Brasser Thursday, March 08, 2012 7:01 AM
    • Marked as answer by NikulP Friday, March 09, 2012 2:22 PM
    Thursday, March 08, 2012 4:37 AM
  • On Thu, 8 Mar 2012 13:56:01 +0000, NikulP wrote:

    There are any number of ways to return to Windows 7:

    1. Use the original Windows 7 media that came with your computer (if it
    came with any) to reinstall Windows 7.
    2. If you're computer didn't come with install media, you can order it for
    a nominal fee from either your OEM or Microsoft as long as you have a valid
    product key.
    3. Use your OEM's automated restore feature.
    4. Restore from a valid backup that was taken before attempting to install
    a pre-release version of a new operating system on your computer.

    No one is forcing you to stay with Windows 8 if you choose not to do so.


    Paul Adare
    MVP - Forefront Identity Manager
    http://www.identit.ca
    There must be more to life than compile-and-go.

    Or you can do as I have done and install on a separate partition with dual booting (option is provided with the install)
    • Marked as answer by NikulP Friday, March 09, 2012 2:22 PM
    Thursday, March 08, 2012 6:55 PM
  • Installing in a VHD is also a legitimate method of installing. No extra partitioning required and all you have to do to uninstall is to delete the vhd and adjust your bootloader using bcdedit. I can highly recommend using that for testing Windows 8.
    • Marked as answer by NikulP Friday, March 09, 2012 2:22 PM
    Thursday, March 08, 2012 9:37 PM

All replies

  • There is no official upgrade path from the consumer preview to the RTM version, this is most likely not the last beta version they will release and for each version it will be required to do a clean install again.

    The FAQ does not explicitly state this but it does mention:

    You're comfortable backing up a PC, formatting a hard drive, and installing an operating system from scratch.

    Here you can find the Windows 8 FAQ which should answer any other question have about Windows 8:

    Windows 8 Consumer Preview: Frequently asked questions


    • Edited by Jaap Brasser Wednesday, March 07, 2012 1:32 PM
    • Marked as answer by NikulP Friday, March 09, 2012 2:22 PM
    Wednesday, March 07, 2012 1:24 PM
  • ok, so once the full version is released and out for sale, will this consumer preview stop working (say if we dont want to buy the full version)?
    Wednesday, March 07, 2012 1:46 PM
  • On Wed, 7 Mar 2012 13:46:09 +0000, NikulP wrote:

    ok, so once the full version is released and out for sale, will this consumer preview stop working (say if we dont want to buy the full version)?

    Yes it will, and even if it didn't stop working, just because you "don't
    want to buy the full version" doesn't mean that you'd have a legal right to
    continue to use any pre-release version for as long as you felt like using
    it.

    If you don't feel like paying for software then you should switch to Linux.


    Paul Adare
    MVP - Forefront Identity Manager
    http://www.identit.ca
    A computer scientist is someone who fixes things that aren't broken.

    • Marked as answer by NikulP Friday, March 09, 2012 2:22 PM
    Wednesday, March 07, 2012 1:51 PM
  • To give you an idea how Microsoft has dealed with pre-release versions of Windows you can have a look here, since there is no official release date for Windows 8 such information is not yet available. Rest assured that you will not be able to continue on using Windows 8 after release:

    Effective August 1, 2009, Windows 7 Beta expires:
    • Windows starts to a black desktop
    • Windows 7 Beta users are presented with a Windows Activation Expired dialog box during logon and then again every hour.
    • Computers that are running Windows 7 Beta restart every two hours

    http://support.microsoft.com/kb/971767

    • Marked as answer by NikulP Friday, March 09, 2012 2:22 PM
    Wednesday, March 07, 2012 4:11 PM
  • Most likely, there will be another "public" available free, pre-release edition called "Release Candidate (RC)."  However, being that MSFT renamed beta to Customer Preview, they will probably give the RC a new name also.

    At this stage, beta, MSFT will solicit and take feedback (although it might not seem like it) and make significant changes to the OS--to both the architecture and the UI.  At the RC stage, the OS is considered complete and MSFT will only be soliciting bug reports to existing features.

    Once the RC is complete, the OS goes to RTM.  At that time, if you want Windows 8, YOU MUST PURCHASE IT.  Most likely, there will be no upgrade path from the beta/RC releases--only from previous RTM supported releases such as Windows 7, etc.

    • Marked as answer by NikulP Friday, March 09, 2012 2:22 PM
    Thursday, March 08, 2012 3:19 AM
  • Hi,

    I have installed Windows 8 consumer preview. So what happens when the preview version ends (when the actual full version of windows 8 is released). Will the preview version expire automatically?, will it ask for an upgrade?.

    Thanks

    Nik

    Hi

    The Windows 8 CP expires on January 15th, 2013.

    As others have already said, there will probably be one more version prior to the final version. This next preview version will have an expiration date sometime after the current CP expiration date.

    When the final version is released, you will be required to purchase that final version.

    Regards

    • Proposed as answer by Jaap Brasser Thursday, March 08, 2012 7:01 AM
    • Marked as answer by NikulP Friday, March 09, 2012 2:22 PM
    Thursday, March 08, 2012 4:37 AM
  • On Thu, 8 Mar 2012 13:56:01 +0000, NikulP wrote:

    I never said I "don't want to buy the full version", that was only my question.

    Which is what I was addressing based on what you stated in your original
    post.

    The reason being I already had a genunie valid copy of win7 proffessional before I installed win8 consumer preview, microsoft already says on their website that before installing we check whether your current copy of windows is valid and has a genuine key.

    I don't understand what you're trying to say here. What does one thing have
    to do with the other?


    So my original question was to say that if I already had a valid copy, why should I not be allowed to either roll back to my previous win7 proff version which i was more than happy with or be allowed to use the preview? That goes to say that whoever is downloading and trialling out win8 preview verison is tied into buying it later on!! If so then it is a rip off by MS!!!

    You're not reading this correctly. The statement about not being able to
    roll-back to a previous version of Windows 7 does not mean that once you've
    installed the Windows 8 Consumer preview that you're not allowed to go
    back to your previous version of Windows, it simply means that there's no
    way to simply uninstall the Windows 8 CP and somehow magically back to
    where you were before. This is a warning about a technical limitation, not
    a warning about any kind of legal or licensing block. To state that by
    installing the CP you are somehow locked into purchasing the final version
    of Windows 8 clearly shows that you're not understanding this point.

    There are any number of ways to return to Windows 7:

    1. Use the original Windows 7 media that came with your computer (if it
    came with any) to reinstall Windows 7.
    2. If you're computer didn't come with install media, you can order it for
    a nominal fee from either your OEM or Microsoft as long as you have a valid
    product key.
    3. Use your OEM's automated restore feature.
    4. Restore from a valid backup that was taken before attempting to install
    a pre-release version of a new operating system on your computer.

    No one is forcing you to stay with Windows 8 if you choose not to do so.


    Paul Adare
    MVP - Forefront Identity Manager
    http://www.identit.ca
    There must be more to life than compile-and-go.

    • Marked as answer by NikulP Friday, March 09, 2012 2:22 PM
    Thursday, March 08, 2012 2:22 PM
  • On Thu, 8 Mar 2012 13:56:01 +0000, NikulP wrote:

    There are any number of ways to return to Windows 7:

    1. Use the original Windows 7 media that came with your computer (if it
    came with any) to reinstall Windows 7.
    2. If you're computer didn't come with install media, you can order it for
    a nominal fee from either your OEM or Microsoft as long as you have a valid
    product key.
    3. Use your OEM's automated restore feature.
    4. Restore from a valid backup that was taken before attempting to install
    a pre-release version of a new operating system on your computer.

    No one is forcing you to stay with Windows 8 if you choose not to do so.


    Paul Adare
    MVP - Forefront Identity Manager
    http://www.identit.ca
    There must be more to life than compile-and-go.

    Or you can do as I have done and install on a separate partition with dual booting (option is provided with the install)
    • Marked as answer by NikulP Friday, March 09, 2012 2:22 PM
    Thursday, March 08, 2012 6:55 PM
  • Installing in a VHD is also a legitimate method of installing. No extra partitioning required and all you have to do to uninstall is to delete the vhd and adjust your bootloader using bcdedit. I can highly recommend using that for testing Windows 8.
    • Marked as answer by NikulP Friday, March 09, 2012 2:22 PM
    Thursday, March 08, 2012 9:37 PM
  • Yes it will, and even if it didn't stop working, just because you "don't
    want to buy the full version" doesn't mean that you'd have a legal right to
    continue to use any pre-release version for as long as you felt like using
    it. if you don't want to pay for the software, you should re install windows 7

    Sunday, September 02, 2012 3:35 AM