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Have Comments about Windows 7 RC? (Part 3 - Do not post questions in this thread)

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  • <Continuation of long thread Have Comments about Windows 7 RC? (Part 2)>

    To all forum users:

    Please use this thread to note any comments that you have about Windows 7 Release Candidate (RC). Do not use this thread for any specific question or issue that you are having - just for comments or feedback. For questions/issues that require an answer, create a new thread.

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    -Tony Mann
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    Monday, May 18, 2009 2:36 AM
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  • There are now available in several windows fonts the option to choose characters that are "turned", to use the description in the character map. I just thought this would be a great option along side "Bold", "Underlined", "Strikeout". I researched it a little and found a website that does this for you, but I do not know how difficult it would be to actually implement in an editor. I even wrote a cute story for clarification (but it was deleted, probably looked too much like a commercial, which it sort of is,  it's supposed to get you to like the idea):
         On the fifth page or the third hour of a very large discussion, you decide, (as immature stalker) to insert a small amount of text to the intended, possibly on the overhead teleprompter/etc, using the latest snazzy gadget from Windows 7 (Which I am suggesting, um you know, now):
    əᴉլլᴉq əʌoլ ᴉ
    Which turns her beet-red after the boss notices and makes a snide remark,  and you end up mopping hallways in Buffalo.... Anyway if anyone was suggesting fonts (I'm sure Someone was) please make a subset of the unicode fonts known as the "turned" letters, or just include a little option next to bold, underline, strikeout.....it could be a great addition to the footnote or self-test quiz, if you, um <ahem>

     

    Saturday, April 11, 2009 6:38 PM
  • character map u+202e, right to left override<insert some char> right to left mark

    The only older prank I can remember is the character location change on hover.
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    Mark L. Ferguson MS-MVP
    Saturday, April 11, 2009 10:50 PM
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  • right to left is old, I agree.
      I meant upside-down, like those answers to the kids' puzzle books in the dentist's office in the '60s (the nineteen sixties).
    esarhp eht would be spelled backwards using special characters now, or using your method (thanks) and by picking the characters from a character map or by going to a website and using their script, or by making a graphic and flipping it.
    On the other hand, an editor that can strikeout might be able to do it as well, it was in my mind to at least suggest it, but you're the MVP.
    Sunday, April 12, 2009 3:51 AM
  • I dunno... It sounds like something that COULD possibly have it's place. But I'm not so sure it HAS to be built into Windows. I mean, yeah... Some people might have a use for it. And as such, it might be worth contributing that suggestion to the Office team. But as a whole, I just don't see the masses of people turning their text upside down on a regular basis. As you said, that sort of thing was popular in the 60's. Exactly how much action would that feature see in today's world? I can see it as maybe a fad as people discover the feature and maybe play with it - but it's novelty would likely wear off fairly quickly.

    I kinda see it as being more of a pain in the neck - literally - when someone decides to play with it online. Joy... I can see it being used as a captcha tool - to annoy the living daylights out of everybody without actually preventing bots (for very long) from cracking it.

    Sunday, April 12, 2009 11:53 AM
  • No reason you can't put that in the comments thread for the dev team to consider.

    Have Comments about Windows 7 Beta (Part 2


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    Mark L. Ferguson MS-MVP
    Sunday, April 12, 2009 12:28 PM
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  • I see your point Wolfie. After all, if only I need upside down, I merely have to install a free font from someone similarly inclined but much less indolent.
    Students reviewing answers to questions on a website (the kind you print for later review) might like it, or labellers....I can't claim to know thousands of uses, and it all reminds me of the consternated mother listening to her kid pray for a red sky. If God so disposes, the kid will be too smug to talk to, and if He doesn't (probably won't), the kid is disillusioned and eventually,,,becomes a politician or a mac user.
       I prefer to put it in their minds, hopefully in a pleasing way, when their guard is down.
    Sunday, April 12, 2009 3:40 PM
  • This is basic functionality of Windows XP.  If I need to copy a file to a drive with more space, I can not click at a glance..  IN windows XP, you just click the drive or any folder on the drive and the status bar always shows the free space.   This information is completely missing in Windows 7 Build 7100 RC
    Tuesday, May 12, 2009 3:15 AM
  • what do u mean screenshot please? if your talking about in computer the info is there.
    Tuesday, May 12, 2009 11:40 AM
  • Yes, the info is there when you open (My) Computer.

    BUT, in windows xp, this basic information was always visible in the status bar. Now, if we need to see the free space (or the sum of file sizes selected) we have to leave the folder / files we are working with, and go to (My) Computer.

    I, and many other forum users are asking for the return of this funcionality (lost since vista, win7 beta and now RC) and Microsoft never pay attention.
    There should be at least on option to turn this feature back on. But, no, the "details pane" is so stupid that is needs 3 lines to NOT SHOW the info xp used to give with ONE SINGLE LINE.

    And worse, if you select a lot more than 15 files and you need to see the space they take, you need to click the stupid "Show more details" button.

    A 10 years old computer that I used to run xp back then had enough processor power to show this info in a millisecond. Maybe the newer computers have LESS processing power, so, if I need the info I can´t have it right away, I need to click the STUPID button "Show more details"... yes, it´s really evolution! (*sarcasm alert here*)
    Tuesday, May 12, 2009 11:58 AM
  • Yes, the info is there when you open (My) Computer.

    BUT, in windows xp, this basic information was always visible in the status bar. Now, if we need to see the free space (or the sum of file sizes selected) we have to leave the folder / files we are working with, and go to (My) Computer.

    I, and many other forum users are asking for the return of this funcionality (lost since vista, win7 beta and now RC) and Microsoft never pay attention.
    There should be at least on option to turn this feature back on. But, no, the "details pane" is so stupid that is needs 3 lines to NOT SHOW the info xp used to give with ONE SINGLE LINE.

    And worse, if you select a lot more than 15 files and you need to see the space they take, you need to click the stupid "Show more details" button.

    A 10 years old computer that I used to run xp back then had enough processor power to show this info in a millisecond. Maybe the newer computers have LESS processing power, so, if I need the info I can´t have it right away, I need to click the STUPID button "Show more details"... yes, it´s really evolution! (*sarcasm alert here*)
    It would be nice to see the size of a particular folder when selected. So far I have found a convient/simpe way to display that.


    Tuesday, May 12, 2009 3:27 PM
  • Rightclick the folder icon, then Properties.
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    Mark L. Ferguson MS-MVP
    Tuesday, May 12, 2009 6:58 PM
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  • Hey, nice to see we have people asking for this only in a "few" threads:

    here: http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en/w7itproui/thread/c704ecad-fa41-4d25-b91a-dca771b0fc84

    here: http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/w7itproui/thread/80d35989-dc14-411a-a942-68ebab2bab8d/

    here: http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/w7itproui/thread/1cbc3578-c8a8-42a7-a18e-308c0a63f977/

    here: http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/w7itproui/thread/12313c79-f39c-41dd-99d7-a600b1a0bc2a/

    here: http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en/w7itproui/thread/b553534c-174c-4ba7-bc1d-513501f4c32c


    Who want to make a bet? We will need a hundred or a thousand about the VERY SAME ANNOYANCE before Microsoft start to listen?
    Thursday, May 14, 2009 12:02 PM
  • I find Aero Snap gets in my way far more often than it helps me and I think it will annoy standard users if it stays in its current form.  I found that disabling it is burried http://www.askvg.com/how-to-disable-aero-snap-in-windows-7/ .

    Two suggestions:
    1: Set SNAP to only occur if the window is held in place for a second or two (this time could be configurable through a UI).
    2: Make the process to disable snap require fewer clicks.   I would expect it to be under Display Properties not under Accessibility Settings.
    Ian Matthews www.commodore.ca
    Thursday, May 14, 2009 5:34 PM
  • ive got an RC build 7100 32-bit install. the details pane shows free disk space of my drives, as well as total space, file system, and bitlocker status. it also does the same for files. it even shows the total space of multiple selected files. however, it wont note the number of files in a folder. the status bar seems useless, though. it just shows the nimber of selected files
    Saturday, May 16, 2009 12:10 PM
  • Please add these options to windows updates settings: http://img2.pict.com/4d/55/d8/2b77897e94a060b33e285c7798/HwIqq/autoupdates.png

    If anyone on the Windows Updates team see this, can you not make Windows auto restart after auto updates? I was in the middle of installing a game and windows just restarts without any user input. So it killed my game installer in the middle of installation. This is a bug in my opinion, and it was in Vista too. It should always ask for confirmation to restart or have a setting somewhere to prevent it from auto restarting after an update. Please fix this before Windows 7 ships.

    It is fine that it auto restarts after an update. But when it restarts WITHOUT checking to see if it is safe to do so, to me that is a bug in the software. In my case, I was in the middle of installing a game, and it killed the installer to reboot. Who knows what could've went wrong when the installer is killed like that. I can imagine other scenarios where you are working on some important document, and you forgot to save, and you stepped away for 30 minutes. You come back to the computer and stare at a blank desktop and your unsaved document is no where to be found. That is not how the software should behave.
    Sunday, May 17, 2009 2:56 PM
  • I'm not sure if you know the group policy, but there you can define much more about the Automatic Updates.
    Go to Start => Run
    Type gpedit.msc
    Go to the following path: Computer Configuration\Administrative Templates\Windows Components\Windows Update

    There you find the following:
    "No auto-restart with logged on users for scheduled automatic updates installations"

    (More info:
    If the status is set to Enabled, Automatic Updates will not restart a computer automatically during a scheduled installation if a user is logged in to the computer. Instead, Automatic Updates will notify the user to restart the computer.)

    The only thing what i don't know is, if the computer restarts if you are not logged in...
    Does somebody else now?

    Sunday, May 17, 2009 3:48 PM
  • I've identified some important UI bugs:

    Windows 7 Libraries interfere with the ability to change the default save locations for Office 2007 settings files.  This very likely has to do with the fact that Office uses a "Save" dialogue box to relocate the default save locations.  The Libraries in general are doing a great job of solving Vista's fragility on matters of redirecting filepaths; but this is a special case -- a Save dialogue overlying the Library interface -- and it seems the Libraries aren't handling the TWO simultaneous filepath redirects correctly. See the following thread for a longer description, and feel free to email me for a PSR file on this bug.

    http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/w7itproui/thread/a892f720-4143-432f-a3e6-3532b5859505

    Windows 7 "hidden" fonts are not "hidden" in Word 2007's font list. The font list has become a "weed garden" in Windows 7, with all foreign fonts visible. See the following thread.

    http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/w7itproui/thread/ae99181a-d406-4a56-a667-bf9e9eec8504

    The files on the Jump Lists for a pinned app that is set to Run as Administrator mode do not launch in Run as Administrator mode.  Nor, as an alternative, is there a context menu option for the Jump Lists that would allow any of these files to be set individually to Run as Administrator.  This is a significant problem if a user is following Microsoft's suggested protocol for user accounts, which is to split off administrator activity to a separate admin account, and just run the OS from a normal user account.  What happens is that any document accessed or created by an admin account (and pinned to a Jump List) cannot be saved when opened by a normal user account.  Hence, there really is a need for a Run as Administrator option for files in the both the Start Menu and Taskbar Jump Lists. See the following thread:

    http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/w7itproui/thread/80eb2a1e-881b-447f-b53b-8001cf883f46

    Windows 7 x64 doesn't resume from hibernate, AFAICT.

    There is no way to pin the Recycle Bin to the Taskbar.  That's possible in Vista, and desirable in Windows 7, because it gives the user a quick way to empty the Recycle Bin without having to minimize any currently open windows.

    I would like to see the old Advanced Search options return that you could get in Vista.  I don't know why they were taken out.  It used to be extremely helpful to just use a shortcut pointing to search:ms, which would take the user directly to those Advanced Search options.

    It would be wonderful to see MS provide a handy timekeeping / work logging app in the system tray (or as a desktop gadget) to complement the clock.  Ideally it would have these properties: 1) Unlimited number of timers (egg/countdown or count up) that can be added by choosing any number of new or previously-defined tasks from a user-created roster.  (Countdown options are necessary for 'timeboxing' methods of scheduling.)  2) Export to MS Excel (as a CSV file) and MS Project the name of the activity, the total time, and the record for each day (including date, and all start and stop times).

    IE8 has two troublesome aspects: First, each tab appears to open a separate instance of iexplorer in Processes. This eats enormous amounts of RAM, and makes it hard to figure out when there's a memory leak.  I would also like to see a "run in x86 mode" for IE 8 x64, so that it could actually install Flash or Silverlight.  Having to launch an entirely different browser just to watch a Flash or Silverlight video is nonsense.

    On the upside, 1) the OS is fast as blazes to boot up, and stable!  2) The Networking taskbar icon is much more functional than before.  3) Libraries generally are a great improvement.  4) I like being able to change the font in Notepad.  5) The Sound Schemes are incredible!  They'll make all Mac users jealous!

    Thank you for all of your hard work redesigning Windows for NT 7.  I was a happy Vista user, and with permission to use 7 RC free until March, I am a die-hard Windows fanatic!

    a.k.a.

    • Edited by a.k.a. _ Monday, May 18, 2009 3:38 AM
    Monday, May 18, 2009 3:15 AM
  • I don't agree with all the "By design" stuff, read below:



    >Chitbill, the same procedure applies to Windows Vista (see my website:
    http://www.winuser.co.uk/windows_vista_faq/72>_move_documents_folder_to_new_location.html )
    >Microsoft make these sort of thing a 'little' more difficult to prevent users inadvertantly changing
    >the location which, if the solution was on the start menu, it would be easy to do.

    Ok maybe they worded it badly but if I want to move the default documents folder, shouldn't it be easier??
    The procedure or whatever is there since forever, sure, it's just different now, and not all programs understand.
    BTW and IIRC (was that spelled right?) You've got to go to desktop\bob\my documents and choose properties\location.
    That was my fault for wording it badly, it's "my documents" the special folder, not the shortcut right next to it.
    This isn't a bug, I'm told, it's by design, and I can go to a website for proof.
    I just disagree with this particular design.
    --------------
    Chitbill , really big pita/nice guy
    Monday, May 18, 2009 4:45 AM
  • #3 - Jumplists
    Edit:
    It seems Applications and Tasks (each task requires elevation) run just fine from the Taskbar, it won't open files directly. Files open LUA but if you open the application first then "Open with..." the file you can overwrite just fine. Feel free to ignore this part, I'm leaving it in though.

    SHFT+CTRL+LMB on an item to "Run as Admin" on it.

    As a test I logged onto my admin account and played a song "Across the Universe", closed WMP, then switched back to my regular account. I played another song "Static X - Cannibal" and again closed WMP. From my standard account I opened WMP's jumplist and SHFT+CTRL+LMB on "Resume previous playlist", after confirmation "Across the Universe" started playing.

    Of course, the problem is this doesn't work everywhere perfectly. I tried it in Wordpad as well and that opened just as if I had only pressed LMB. In fact, I'm noticing that more often than not, this doesn't work. Slightly remeniscent of using SHFT+CTRL+LMB/ENTER in the Start Menu, where CMD and MMC are the only applications that respond correctly. All other applications I have either don't respond or open in LUA. So I suspose there is a way of doing what you want to do... it just doesn't work or I'm doing it wrong. You are right though, it needs fixing.

    Somewhat surprisingly, SHFT+CTRL+LMB/WIN+# always works to open an application as an admin from the taskbar.

    #4 - Recycle Bin
    As a workaround for #4 you can pin it to Explorer and SHFT+RMB > Empty Recycle Bin. I believe in the beta this command could be accessed through the regular context menu but t was changed for whatever reason to only show in the expanded menu.

    From another post of mine:
    (using Windows + 7 as an Example, which is Powershell on my PC now)
    Win + 7
    If Powershell is inactive, run Powershell. Otherwise, switch to Powershell.

    ALT + Win + 7
    Display Powershell jumplist.

    CTRL + Win + 7
    Switch to last active instance of Powershell, iterate through all open windows using Z-order.

    SHFT + Win + 7
    Open a new instance of Powershell.

    CTRL + SHFT + Win + 7
    Run new instance of Powershell as an Administrator.

    Some things I'm noticing:
    Switching user accounts causes some of my Explorer windows to roll up like this:

    Edit:
    More on #3:
    Monday, May 18, 2009 5:00 AM
  • An option to flush the "recent" or "frequent" items in the jumplists would be much appreciated.
    Monday, May 18, 2009 6:10 AM
  • I’d also like to express some thoughts about win7.

    There are many good improvements. The look in general is nicer than that in Vista; I like the new Start menu, where many programs can have their own MRU lists; icons on the taskbar can be freely moved; And, of course, it’s faster than Vista.

    But, unfortunately, the general impression is rather disappointing. These are the things I don’t like:

    - Sleep mode is broken. By default it even grayed in the menu, but if I still use it (e.g. automatically by timeout, or by pressing ‘Sleep’ button on the keyboard) it tries to sleep, and then automatically reboots. The same with hibernate. Not only I have this problem, you can find in the internet other messages about it. Some people suggest turning off ‘Allow this device to wake up computer’ option in the network card settings, but for me, it did not help. (Needless to say, in XP/Vista on the same machine all worked fine).

    - Drivers of my video card (ATI 9250) were completely removed, even from Microsoft’s server. Well, I agree, it’s quite an old card, but it was supported in Vista. But now, only “VGA compatible card” driver installed. Well, I downloaded drivers from the ATI site, but now every time I shut down or reboot the system BSOD appears.

    - The new behavior of icons in the tray. In XP/Vista, a new installed program could place there its icon, and if you didn’t need it you could hide it. But now they’re hidden by default and you have to manually show them. But in order to do this I have to know that there is an icon. So, every time after installing a program I have to open the tray and see? Is this considered as convenience?

    - The network icon in the tray. What was wrong with the previous icon, with two monitors blinking indicating the data transfer? It was convenient, but the current icon is simply useless. It shows nothing.

    - When I press right mouse button on the Start menu, it doesn’t show the usual menu anymore. Only two items: Properties and Libraries. But how am I supposed to manually add programs there? (you know, there are programs not having installers, so you have to manually unpack them and add a shortcut in the Start menu). Was it done intentionally? Why? What RMB on Start menu has to do with libraries?

    - The new model of grouping icons on the taskbar is an interesting one, still I’d prefer it were optional. For me, the old model was more convenient.


    In general, I think Vista is even better. At least, the first two entries in this my list prevent me from normally using Win7.

     

     

    Monday, May 18, 2009 6:10 AM
  • I'm using a LCD monitor and I have no problems with it. And dont see many other ppl complaining about this. Altough the hovering color may be a bit too discreet.
    My suggestion :
    - try ajusting your LCD settings or try on another model of LCD
    - visit the optician.


    I am running a new Dell Laptop and the colour is amazing for everything and the screen is optimized to the printers for Adobe products so I know the colour is as it should be.

    However, I went to my friends house today and they have a brand new PC and again brilliant monitor and the blue is still as pale as ever.

    Try it in Regedit. It disappears COMPLETELY and makes it almost impossible to see what key is open.

    Maybe others just don't do as much file manipulation as I do.
    lforbes
    Monday, May 18, 2009 6:50 AM
  • You guys seem to be using the terms Restore Point and Shadow Copy synonymously.



    When I search Vista Help & Support for these terms, they don't seem connected at all.

    No they are not the same. We are actually talking about Previous Versions/Shadow Copies which are the same.  All versions of Windows have System Restore. Currently only Servers have Shadow Copies which gives the "Previous Versions" tab that someone was mentioning. Apparently that is also offered in Ultimate. I have never seen Vista Ultimate.

    Cheers,
    Lara
    lforbes
    Monday, May 18, 2009 7:00 AM
  • Fully aware of that gpedit trick, but my point is it shouldn't be hidden in there. What I propose is in that mock up pict I posted above.
    Monday, May 18, 2009 8:30 AM
  • At initial setup, if you boot with a USB stick attached containing RAID/AHCI drivers, at the point where you create and select the install partition you receive the error:

    "Setup was unable to create a system partition or locate an existing partition."


    Here's what I had the first time I tried to install Win7 RC:

    Boot device 1 = CD-ROM
    Boot device 2 = Blank Intel SSD
    Boot device 3 = USB stick with ICH10R AHCI drivers

    Setup starts fine, you can load the drivers, it lets you choose a partition but then says "unable to create system partition".

    The solution for me was as follows:

    1) Do not have USB stick plugged in when booting, so only:
    Boot device 1 = CD-ROM
    Boot device 2 = Blank Intel SSD

    2) At the setup page which says you can load other drivers, insert the USB stick, click the link and load the drivers

    3) Unplug the USB stick

    4) Continue with setup


    If you search you'll find quite a few references to this problem. Somethings wrong with the app to select the install partition if it's getting confused between what you have selected and an unrelated action to load drivers from a different device.

    Monday, May 18, 2009 8:46 AM
  • - Drivers of my video card (ATI 9250) were completely removed, even from Microsoft’s server. Well, I agree, it’s quite an old card, but it was supported in Vista. But now, only "VGA compatible card" driver installed. Well, I downloaded drivers from the ATI site, but now every time I shut down or reboot the system BSOD appears.

    If I remember correcly AMD stated they were not supporting cards older than the HD2000 series for Windows 7 a month or two back. And, according to Wikipedia: 

    This series of Radeon graphics cards is supported by AMD under

    Microsoft Windows operating systems including Windows XP (except x64), Windows 2000, Windows Me, and Windows 98. Other operating systems may have support in the form of a generic driver that lacks complete support for the hardware. Driver development for the R200 line ended with the Catalyst 6.11 drivers for Windows XP. 

    If the quote is correct, AMD put this chip to rest even before Vista was released. Were the drivers you installed the 9550 series drivers? It might be the fact that you are using an R300 series card causing your bluescreens. :-(

    - The new behavior of icons in the tray. In XP/Vista, a new installed program could place there its icon, and if you didn’t need it you could hide it. But now they’re hidden by default and you have to manually show them. But in order to do this I have to know that there is an icon. So, every time after installing a program I have to open the tray and see? Is this considered as convenience?

    From my own experience, new notification icons are usually shown when they are created. Whether they are hidden by the OS soon after I do not know, I usually hide them immediately myself.

    - When I press right mouse button on the Start menu, it doesn’t show the usual menu anymore. ... What RMB on Start menu has to do with libraries?

    1) RMB on the "All Programs" button. You can also type "shell:start menu" to access the start menu folder from either Instant Search or the Address Bar. Use "shell:common start menu" to access Start Menu All Users.

    2) Nothing specifically, but notice the text label. It reads as "Open Windows Explorer." It does just that.

    Monday, May 18, 2009 11:35 AM
  • - If the quote is correct, AMD put this chip to rest even before Vista was released.

    Maybe. Anyhow, it worked in Vista. Did not support Aero, but worked. And the driver was installed automatically.

    - Were the drivers you installed the 9550 series drivers?

    No, for 9250. But for XP.

    - From my own experience, new notification icons are usually shown when they are created.

    Only when they have some message. Otherwise they're hidden.

     

    - RMB on the "All Programs" button.

      Hmm, indeed. Thanks, I haven't noticed this.


    - Nothing specifically, but notice the text label. It reads as "Open Windows Explorer. " It does just that.

       For me, "Open Windows Explorer " is what Win-E does: open Explorer on "computer".  And, in any case, if open my folder, I'd prefer it to open c:\users\username \, not only Libraries.


    Monday, May 18, 2009 11:56 AM
  • This is for all.....try this line.....there are a lot of goodies here for windows 7:

    http://bhandler.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!70F64BC910C9F7F3!4572.entry?wa=wsignin1.0&sa=721227328
    Monday, May 18, 2009 12:10 PM
  • A quick comment to Microsoft...

    Please stop taking to heart those "Hi, I'm a Mac" "And I'm a PC" commercials so much!  You DON'T want to make Windows into OSX!  The grass is NOT greener on the other side!

    In other words, please stop "dumbing down" the system!

    If you want the system to be more usable, that's a great idea.  Just keep in mind there are people who need to do real work with it, and that SOME parts of it might just still have to remain a bit "geeky" for that to be possible!

    For example, I can no longer deterministically see the seconds or milliseconds value of a file modification date no matter what I try in Explorer.  Is "3 minutes ago" in the file Properties dialog REALLY easier to use than "5/18/2009 9:19:45"?  Are you saying the majority of your customers are too stupid to know that 9:22 is 3 minutes later?  And what would be the REAL problem with "5/18/2009 9:19:45.1234"?  Leave the hours:minutes in the main displays for simplicity, but don't remove the ability to see the actual details from the Details view!!!!

    And is it really easier to use a system with a network icon that doesn't show when there's network activity?

    For God's sake at least leave in options where we can turn on the good stuff and back off the "duh"!

    If you keep adding more "Duh" and removing "To Work" options, you will lose customers. 

    Even all the kids who use Windows for entertainment are going to grow up and get jobs where they need to use Windows for real work.

    Clearly your Marketing people are driving many of these boneheaded UI changes...  

    Suggestion for Microsoft Project Engineering Leaders:
       Talk to your senior software developers - i.e., people trying to use Windows to get real work done.  Assuming they aren't using XP or 3rd party apps to get their work done, actually ASK them about each UI change and LISTEN to what they have to say.  And please push back against the Marketing folks when the changes don't make sense.

    Thank you.

    -Noel

    Monday, May 18, 2009 1:40 PM
  • Please stop taking to heart those "Hi, I'm a Mac" "And I'm a PC " commercials so much!  You DON'T want to make Windows into OSX!  The grass is NOT greener on the other side!

    In other words, please stop "dumbing down" the system!

    If you want the system to be more usable, that's a great idea.  Just keep in mind there are people who need to do real work with it, and that SOME parts of it might just still have to remain a bit "geeky" for that to be possible!

    For example, I can no longer deterministically see the seconds or milliseconds value of a file modification date no matter what I try in Explorer.  Is "3 minutes ago" in the file Properties dialog REALLY easier to use than "5/18/2009 9:19:45"?  Are you saying the majority of your customers are too stupid to know that 9:22 is 3 minutes later?  And what would be the REAL problem with "5/18/2009 9:19:45.1234"?  Leave the hours:minutes in the main displays for simplicity, but don't remove the ability to see the actual details from the Details view!!!!

    And is it really easier to use a system with a network icon that doesn't show when there's network activity?

    For God's sake at least leave in options where we can turn on the good stuff and back off the "duh"!

    If you keep adding more "Duh" and removing "To Work" options, you will lose customers. 

    Even all the kids who use Windows for entertainment are going to grow up and get jobs where they need to use Windows for real work.

    Thank you.

    -Noel


    Exactly my feelings. 100% agreed. If I like MAC ad, or If I want a MAC, I buy a MAC. (or a network device, they all have MAC´s ad.. ok, bad joke, sorry.)

    But, I like windows, and I would not like to see it turned into a mac copy.
    • Edited by Warel Monday, May 18, 2009 2:24 PM a typo.
    Monday, May 18, 2009 2:22 PM
  • You guys seem to be using the terms Restore Point and Shadow Copy synonymously.



    When I search Vista Help & Support for these terms, they don't seem connected at all.

    No they are not the same. We are actually talking about Previous Versions/Shadow Copies which are the same.  All versions of Windows have System Restore. Currently only Servers have Shadow Copies which gives the "Previous Versions" tab that someone was mentioning. Apparently that is also offered in Ultimate. I have never seen Vista Ultimate.

    Cheers,
    Lara
    lforbes

    Previous Versions/Shadow Copy is a feature of Vista Business/Enterprise/Ultimate and is of all Windows 7 versions above Home Premium. If you installed the Ultimate RC then it is available on your machine. The connection to System Restore is that it makes shadow copies when it creates restore points (at whatever interval you have set).  You do not, however, use System Restore to recover a lost or changed file.  You just go to the folder in Windows Explorer, right click, choose Restore Previous Versions, pick the date/time, and then just copy the file as you would from any other folder.   It is a great feature that I have used on a few occasions in Vista after inintentionally deleting something, or using a document as a template for a new one and then hitting Save instead of Save As. I just used Restore Previous Versions and copied to deleted (or orginal) file back - took under 15 seconds. I've tested it in Windows 7 - same feature as Vista and same benefits....

    Stephen
    Monday, May 18, 2009 2:50 PM
  • An option to flush the "recent" or "frequent" items in the jumplists would be much appreciated.

    I absolutely agree on this one.  I really like the jumplist feature but it uses some utility when it becomes filled with the dozens of files I will open once. As a business person who would like to be able to have a client sit next to me (or look at a projection screen) at times, and it is more than a bit awkward to have the jumplist include a file name that is obviously a bid with a competitor.  Having to right click each file individually to remove is rather inefficient.  In addition, it has a flaw with respect to Internet Explorer (at least on my machine). The "frequent" list is seldom comprised of the actual most frequent locations.  If I open Internet Explorer a few times (never going to the ones on the list), the list will update to other old sites, not to the ones I have just been visiting.  Still a good feature that I already use all the time but it does have a few quirks....

    Stephen
     
    Monday, May 18, 2009 3:04 PM
  • Game performance is good in windows 7 (a little slower then XP, yet nothing you can really see), yet, Media Center seems to be slow when you press the green main menu bubble while watching a video. It will show the menu with the video in the background, slowing windows Media Center down. Also, when playing music, when the "moving wall" thing happens, seems to be slow. Other then that, Windows Media Center is great!

    PowerPoint: This is a big problem. I turn on Direct X support. The graphics seems to be ALOT slower then on windows vista or XP. For example, when I am fading between slides, it is really choppy and slow, and yes, even with Direct X Support.

    ITunes: The visuals seems to be slow when running in full screen.

    Windows Aero: A little slower then in Vista, not by much.

    So really, it is just visuals on programs other then games. Not sure what it is. I have a Nvidia 6150 internal (which is enough to run vista and windows 7) (512mb of VRAM)

    This graphic card was more then enough to get a score of 3.1 in Vista, I have a score of 2.9 in Windows 7. Not a big deal, I don't go by the scores.

    Overall, very fast OS. Just needs to work on graphics, and this will rock my socks!!!

    Monday, May 18, 2009 3:38 PM
  • System Tray always needs to have the arrow button available to click to bring up system tray customization.

    I was fooling around with system tray customization and selected the option to "always show all icons and notifications on the taskbar".

    I then wanted to change it back to hide the icons and it took me around 5 minutes of clicking to get back to the customization options.  Apparently you have to right click a very, very, teeny tiny portion of the system tray to access the customization options if you currently have "always show all icons and notifications on the taskbar" checked.

    You need to add the system tray arrow back if "always show all icons and notifications on the taskbar" is checked otherwise its very hard to get back to the customization screen.

    A second point is I love the way Vista handles the system tray.  It will show a few icons and then clicking on the < button will show the rest of the icons.

    So if I install a new program I can quickly see if it installs something to the system tray that I can then turn off.  Now in Windows 7 I have to click the arrow every time.

    New users to using computers probably would never even learn that some programs install icons to the system tray that they can turn off because they will never click the system tray button.

    Vista had the system tray perfect.

    Seems that MS is hiding ALL system tray icons except network to hide the fact that a lot of 3rd party software install programs that run in the system tray when it really doesn't need to (Apple Quicktime anyone?).

    Like a user mentioned above this seems to be one of those changes demanded by the marketing department.  "I don't like having all the icons showing in the system tray.  I don't want to learn how remove them so the programs are not always running in the background.  So lets just hide them."
    Monday, May 18, 2009 3:41 PM
  • System Tray always needs to have the arrow button available to click to bring up system tray customization....

    Not trying to be rude but am I missing something here?  The Vista style "Show Hidden Icons" option on both my machines is just where it is in Vista.  As far as turning on and off (and back again), if I right click on the System Tray and choose  "Customize Notification Icons" I am there in one click....

    Stephen
    • Edited by swyost Tuesday, May 19, 2009 6:28 AM
    Monday, May 18, 2009 3:50 PM
  • Agreed. Also, in VISTA, gpedit is not available for Home Premium. If this is the case for Win 7, this cannot be applied.

    To me, the best solution is not to accept automatic updates. I have my update notification set to "Download updates but let me choose whether to install them". In this way, if I am in the middle of something, the automatic reboot will not occur until I choose to install the updates. This is best for other reasons - I often do not want to download and install driver for my hardware - I refer to get them directly for the hardware company's web site directly.

    Windows 7 beta dual booting with VISTA Home Premium 2 GB memory 160 HD Gateway Laptop HP Officejet 6310 All-in One inkjet printer Verizon FIOS Internet Connection
    Monday, May 18, 2009 4:28 PM
  • Wasn't Sure where to put this, The following breaks down the past expiences with windows 7 rc as I remember

    #1 The first day I installed Windows 7 everything was cool then finally got the test updates and some real updates installed I proceeded to install apps and other software I thought I might need or use Nothing really wrong on day 1 

    Day 2: Superfetch service started Not starting up on start ups or it would shut down or get disabled by an unknown source still sorting this one out 

    Ah Day 3 I installed the largest 2 of my suite of software Microsoft flight sim x and Pinnacle studio 11 Ultimate 
    in MSX I flew from Michigan to Hawii ussually 9hrs  in Vista this trip on the sim would crash 1hr in Windows 7 no issues I went the whole 9hrs no issue I was tired I shut down and went to bed 

    day 4 fired up under 10 seconds hit the desktop I'm like Holy S____t then edited video project in studio for 4hrs straight No issues 

    Other issues: 

    Audio Service slow starts trips a red x error service did not start properily turns out to be false because there is sound (Audio Card is an Audigy 2EX Platium driver provided by windows update)

    SuperFetch does not start or shuts down (noticable symphom computer slows to a crawl) Ram use jumps from 500mbs to 600mbs use to 700mbs to 800mbs used Superfetch turns offor does not start Note: Performance trouble shooter will detect and resolve the issue and restart superfetch. few hours later super fetch turns off.

    User file directory issues Since vista Microsoft has changed My documents My pictures My Music My videos to just Documents Music Pictures & Videos Well I move these files to E:\Documents but a exsisting dbx thumbnail file tells the OS it's My documents and the same for the others It creates a mess double folders generate
    It creates a mess I end up defaulting the folders and going into my e drive and fixing renaming the folders to what the system is looking for and not was there from previous OSes

    IE 8 long term causes a Memory over run some times crashing the system or bringing it to a hault windows 7 pretty good at catching the issue but not all the time.

    Media center nothing wrong just 2 processes duking it out on my network creating connection issues and bandwidth EHShell and the svchost go nuts when Media center open you can watch the show either in the network tuning in Media center or in the windows 7 resources monitor under network both processes start accessing the network at 100% Messing up my xbox 360 online gaming or causing a slow Media extender experience
    Using a tweak I was shown on windows vista fixed the issue switching the services from automatic to manual in the windows 7 services fixes this network usage returns to normal
    Media center still runs Quieter too. 

    Over all everything works accept for reported posted issues others have posted. 

    I think Microsoft nails these issues Windows 7 Might knock xp out of the Perfect OS of all time
       


    Posted By Mikro
    Monday, May 18, 2009 6:41 PM
  • shutdow confirmation is gone, I am so thankful some of the "are you sure" items are gone. If I click shutdown, do it.

    TOTALLY AGREE

    if want to shutdown please DO IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    i'm 25 years old and i know what i'm doing with my work equipments.
    time is money so
    keep the way you did in win 7


    turn off? done.
    no confirmations.


    thanks
    Monday, May 18, 2009 7:49 PM
  • System Tray always needs to have the arrow button available to click to bring up system tray customization....

    No trying to be rude but am I missing something here?  The Vista style "Show Hidden Icons" option on both my machines is just where it is in Vista.  As far as turning on and off (and back again), if I right click on the System Tray and choose  "Customize Notification Icons" I am there in one click....

    Stephen
    It is if you don't have the option "Always show all icons and notifications on the taskbar" selected.  If you have it selected then the button disappears.

    Try this:

    1)  In Windows 7, click the the system tray button "Show hidden icons".
    2)  Select customize from the pop-up window.
    3)  On the bottom left of the screen put a check mark in the box "Always show all icons and notifications on the taskbar".
    4)  Click the OK button

    Now all the icons are showing in the system tray.  The problem is what if you want to go back and now hide the icons in the system tray.  How do you get back to the system customization screen since the arrow button is no longer there?

    MS needs to change it so that the arrow button will always be there in the system tray so that you can access the customization screen.  I think they remove the button because its titled "Show hidden icons".  Well if you are showing all the icons there won't be any hidden icons.  They probably should then rename the arrow button to "System Tray Customization".  Can't rename it to "Hide all icons" because you might just be pressing the button to change the behaviour of some of the icons.  So I would just rename the arrow button to "Properties" just like it is named in Vista when you highlight the system tray arrow button with the mouse.

    2)  My second point has to do with that in Windows Vista a few icons will always be shown in the system tray.  In Windows 7 the only icon that will be shown is just the network icon unless you select "Always show all icons and notifications on the taskbar".  I like the way Vista handles icons in the system tray because if I install a new program and that program installs an icon to the system tray (meaning there is a program running in the background) I will see it right away.  In Windows 7 I will always have to click the "Show hidden icons" button to see if a new program installs a program that runs in the background.  Sure its only 1 click, but in Vista I don't have to click at all.  I don't see the need for the change.

    Monday, May 18, 2009 7:50 PM
  • I kind of miss the shutdown confirmation thing at time from Windows XP. I wish they would put tat back it, expecially since the power button for my notebook pc is on the left of the machine instead of right above the keyboard, like it is on most notebooks, damn my tc4400 tablet PC. i only want that option back, so that if i accdentally push the power button the PC will start to shut down. I only think it would be nice to have that feaure for those who want it, besides i do not want to keep the default action for the power button at "nothing". that really bothers me. Besides if microsoft puts the feature back in they can disable it by default and have a different action as the default. andsadly i dislike certain Windows 7 defaults, but only because I am an advanced PC user.
    Monday, May 18, 2009 8:37 PM
  • Windows Media Center should sort music within compilation albums, such as movie soundtracks, based on the individual artist and not the album artist when browsing your music by "Artist"

    There are 2 tags in a MP3 file for defining the music artist.  There is "Artist" and "Album Artist". 

    When sorting through your music collection by the category "Artist"  the albums by an individual artist are correctly sorted on the tag "Album Artist". 

    However, music in a compilation album is still being sorted on "Album Artist" instead of "Artist". 

    Example: 

    I have the soundtrack for the movie "Transformers"

    I label the tag "Album Artist" with the string "Various Artists" for each of the mp3 tracks within that album.

    I label the tag "Artist" with the name of the artist for that specific MP3 track.

    Track 1 is tagged as:  "Album Artist = Various Artists"; "Artist = Linkin Park";              "Title = What I've Done"       "Album = Transformers: The Movie"
    Track 2 is tagged as:  "Album Artist = Various Artists"; "Artist = Smashing Pumpkins"; "Title = Dooms Day Clock"   "Album = Transformers: The Movie"
    Track 3 is tagged as:  "Album Artist = Various Artists"; "Artist = Disturbed";                "Title = This Moment"           "Album = Transformers: The Movie"

    And then in Windows Media Player when I sort based on Artist I should see an artist entry for:
    Linkin Park
    Smashing Pumpkins
    Disturbed

    But, instead of seeing the artist listed individually they are all listed under the artist "Various Artists".

    There should be some program logic that if the tag "Album Artist = Various Artists" then Windows Media Player should then sort that album via the tag "Artist".

    There is no perfect solution for what string of text to use for "Album Artist" for compilation albums, but the string "Various Artists" seems to be the most commonly used value.

    And no, you cannot just change the value in the tag "Album Artist" to the individual artist because then when you browse your music collection by album you will see multiple entries for the same album.

    I know this can be done because the 3rd party software MediaMonkey will list songs in compilation albums by the individual artist when you browse your music collection using the MediaMonkey library and browse under "Artist & Album Artist".

    And please make this change to the Zune software for Windows as well.  The Zune software for Windows is great except for this one attribute.








    Monday, May 18, 2009 8:53 PM
  • How about a slider in Media Player that lets you adjust the size of the album art thumbnails.  If Apple iTunes can do it then so can Windows Media Player.  And please add a size slider to the Zune Windows software as well.
    Monday, May 18, 2009 8:54 PM
  • After extensive testing for 2 weeks and comparing with OSX's dock, here is how I like the new taskbar.
    I like the new taskbar a lot. In terns of functionality it is as good as OSX's dock and even better. But it becomes quite crowded sooner than you'd think. I wish it had some autoresize and autoscroll option. Once you have so many appz pinned, it is a pain in the .. to scroll to the next set of icons and return back. If they can implement something like an autoscroll functionality (consider the taskbar as a continous stripe, with both ends attached to each other, as the user approaches on end, the icons start to scroll, like a conveyer belt :-) Scroll direction can simply be determined from the mouse's movement direction, user can scroll back and forth effortleslly without the need to click anyting) it would be really cool and simple and usefull and fast and intuitive :-) I hate to use small icons just because I pinned three more appz than the taskbar could accomodate with large icons.
    Monday, May 18, 2009 9:20 PM
  • Now all the icons are showing in the system tray.  The problem is what if you want to go back and now hide the icons in the system tray.  How do you get back to the system customization screen since the arrow button is no longer there?
    Man, what's your problem ?
    You cant get back to the customization screen at all, or you cant get back the same quick way ?
    Probably MS didnt think people really need to change this so often (and I dont think too), so they said , its easy to do right click taskbar -> properties -> notification area / customize notification icon .
    Monday, May 18, 2009 9:25 PM
  • RMB the Taskbar, select "Properties", then "Customize..." in the Notification Area groupbox. Or type "noti" into the Start Menu, but I know that's not for everyone.

    In response to 2) (the second one...):

    Drag the icon out of the notification box or select the appropriate option from the Notification Area Icons applet. And the problem with the old model is that it interfered with items on the taskband if it was full enough, or if the user had enough notification icons. This is very annoying for people who've bought laptops through vendors that are filled with junk apps but don't know they can delete them. I'm sure you've seen XP/Vista desktops where the notifications cover 1/3~1/2 the taskbar. Not only is it a problem if they go unremoved but even if they are hidden, expanding the notification area will likely wind up compressing the taskbar area. Even if it is only momentary, it is annoying.
    Monday, May 18, 2009 9:26 PM
  • There is no way to pin the Recycle Bin to the Taskbar.  That's possible in Vista, and desirable in Windows 7, because it gives the user a quick way to empty the Recycle Bin without having to minimize any currently open windows.

    I would like to see the old Advanced Search options return that you could get in Vista.  I don't know why they were taken out.  It used to be extremely helpful to just use a shortcut pointing to search:ms, which would take the user directly to those Advanced Search options.


    Totally agree with these two points. It was actually faster for me to use the old Advanced Search method. It made more sense.

    Aside from the other issues I'm having with the RC over the beta, everything else is ok. Just hoping Microsoft fixes the issues in the RC that weren't present in the beta for me.
    • Edited by eq07 Monday, May 18, 2009 9:50 PM edit
    Monday, May 18, 2009 9:50 PM
  • I kind of miss the shutdown confirmation thing at time from Windows XP. I wish they would put tat back it, expecially since the power button for my notebook pc is on the left of the machine instead of right above the keyboard, like it is on most notebooks, damn my tc4400 tablet PC. i only want that option back, so that if i accdentally push the power button the PC will start to shut down. I only think it would be nice to have that feaure for those who want it, besides i do not want to keep the default action for the power button at "nothing". that really bothers me. Besides if microsoft puts the feature back in they can disable it by default and have a different action as the default. andsadly i dislike certain Windows 7 defaults, but only because I am an advanced PC user.

    110% Agreed!

    Heaven forbid you are using Windows in a work environment and you are working on a server and accidentally click Shutdown.

    Or even worse, you are remotely logged into a server and accidentally hit Shutdown.  Now you have to walk to the server room and turn the server back on while throngs of people curse you out.

    Or even worse than that you are remotely logged into a server, accidentally hit shutdown and you don't have access to the server room and its after hours and there is no one available to turn the computer back on for you so you have to call the after hours support person who now has to drive back to the office to turn on the computer.  OOPS!

    MS really needs to have a pop-up window appear after clicking shutdown that gives you an option to either "Cancel" or "Shutdown Now".  And then add a timer so that if "Cancel" or "Shutdown Now" are not clicked the computer will shutdown on its own.  Hey, its 5pm at work, you click Shutdown, forget to click "Shutdown Now" not a problem because the computer will still shutdown after a period of time.

    I know a lot of people don't like having to click "Shutdown" and then a confirmation to shutdown, but MS has to remember that their operating system is used both at home and in a work environment and accidentally shutting down a computer in the work environment can have serious consequences.  MS could always add an option to disable the shutdown confirmation, but by default "shutdown" should always require a confirmation.

    Not because grandma at home may accidentally shutdown her computer when browsing family photos, but because you are at work remotely logged into a server and instead of clicking the arrow next to "Shutdown" so that you can select Logoff, you accidentally hit "Shutdown".

    Okay now lets be realistic about this or at least check out the feature before making a statement on the subject.  If anyone else is logged on to the system you are shutting down, it gives you a warning and asks that you confirm.  If you have any apps open with unsaved work, it gives you a warning as well. I've tried both to verify since we are, indeed testing a new OS.  Yes, they changed the function but they didn't just make it the equivalent of pulling a trigger on a gun.  Please try it before just making statements that really aren't an accurate reflection of how it works.  If you don't like the way it now works then say so, but don't just create hypothetical scenarios that have no bearing in reality....

    Stephen
     
    Monday, May 18, 2009 10:15 PM
  • Stack By!!! Put back stack by. I really hope the devs just took it out for the RC to work on it, instead of removing it permanently. 

    Library is so limited compared to just a regular folder view. Instead of being able to stack by any metadata, I can only stack a very limited and preset of properties...What if i want to stack music by composer instead of artist? a picture by camera modeL?

     Aside from the lack of "stack by", there is no rightclick->"group by" option from a *search* performed in a library, like there is with a search performed in a regular folder..inconsistencies..


    • Edited by oCpmture Monday, May 18, 2009 10:23 PM
    Monday, May 18, 2009 10:21 PM
  • yeah you're entirely right,
    i accidentaly shut down halfway during a large download and i had to start all over again.

    Monday, May 18, 2009 10:36 PM
  • yeah you're entirely right,
    i accidentaly shut down halfway during a large download and i had to start all over again.


    That is very interesting.  I just re-ran my original tests.  I opened a Word document and made some changes and then hit shut down.  I was immediately prompted to save my changes and (when I did nothing) then was presented with a black screen warning me that there was an open document, with the option to cancel or force shut down.  That sure seems sufficient to me.  I then started a large download and hit shut down.  This (again) resulted in the black screen with the warning regarding the open application.  While I would suggest that the timeout before it automatically shuts down should be longer, it again did not just shut down.  When I get home, I will log my other computer onto this laptop but I think it is a given that I will (again) get the old fashioned message I got the first time that someone is still logged on and that proceeding will disconnect them.  

    They did not make the function stupid - they just made it faster.  I will take the new system over the energy waste on XP systems sitting with a greyed screen asking what to do (after the user has left for the day).  That one I really have addressed more times than I would care to remember in more than one office....

    Stephen
    Monday, May 18, 2009 11:10 PM
  • I kind of miss the shutdown confirmation thing at time from Windows XP. I wish they would put tat back it, expecially since the power button for my notebook pc is on the left of the machine instead of right above the keyboard, like it is on most notebooks, damn my tc4400 tablet PC. i only want that option back, so that if i accdentally push the power button the PC will start to shut down. I only think it would be nice to have that feaure for those who want it, besides i do not want to keep the default action for the power button at "nothing". that really bothers me. Besides if microsoft puts the feature back in they can disable it by default and have a different action as the default. andsadly i dislike certain Windows 7 defaults, but only because I am an advanced PC user.

    110% Agreed!

    Heaven forbid you are using Windows in a work environment and you are working on a server and accidentally click Shutdown.

    Or even worse, you are remotely logged into a server and accidentally hit Shutdown.  Now you have to walk to the server room and turn the server back on while throngs of people curse you out.

    Or even worse than that you are remotely logged into a server, accidentally hit shutdown and you don't have access to the server room and its after hours and there is no one available to turn the computer back on for you so you have to call the after hours support person who now has to drive back to the office to turn on the computer.  OOPS!

    MS really needs to have a pop-up window appear after clicking shutdown that gives you an option to either "Cancel" or "Shutdown Now".  And then add a timer so that if "Cancel" or "Shutdown Now" are not clicked the computer will shutdown on its own.  Hey, its 5pm at work, you click Shutdown, forget to click "Shutdown Now" not a problem because the computer will still shutdown after a period of time.

    I know a lot of people don't like having to click "Shutdown" and then a confirmation to shutdown, but MS has to remember that their operating system is used both at home and in a work environment and accidentally shutting down a computer in the work environment can have serious consequences.  MS could always add an option to disable the shutdown confirmation, but by default "shutdown" should always require a confirmation.

    Not because grandma at home may accidentally shutdown her computer when browsing family photos, but because you are at work remotely logged into a server and instead of clicking the arrow next to "Shutdown" so that you can select Logoff, you accidentally hit "Shutdown".

    Okay now lets be realistic about this or at least check out the feature before making a statement on the subject.  If anyone else is logged on to the system you are shutting down, it gives you a warning and asks that you confirm.  If you have any apps open with unsaved work, it gives you a warning as well. I've tried both to verify since we are, indeed testing a new OS.  Yes, they changed the function but they didn't just make it the equivalent of pulling a trigger on a gun.  Please try it before just making statements that really aren't an accurate reflection of how it works.  If you don't like the way it now works then say so, but don't just create hypothetical scenarios that have no bearing in reality....

    Stephen
     

    You got me.

    I did not test correctly.  That scenario cannot happen. 

    Though there is the scenario that poor win7pwns123 ran across (2 messages after this).  Lost his download the poor guy.
    Monday, May 18, 2009 11:14 PM
  • yeah you're entirely right,
    i accidentaly shut down halfway during a large download and i had to start all over again.


    damn that sucks. at least that has never happened to me yet. In Vista and Windows 7, i just set it so that the power button does nothing while pressed. Other than that, you can just hold it down for 6-7 seconds and it will force a shutdown. but thats just crashing the system and should only be done in case of an emergency... I only to shutdown the PC like that when the PC completely freezes up. oddly the PC has down that once or twice under Vista and three or four times under Windows 7 Beta 1 build 7000.
    Monday, May 18, 2009 11:20 PM
  • Just a couple comments from an old fogie.

    First, I think there is too much space between the buttons on the Quick Launch task bar. On WinXPSP3 they was much less empty space which made for a more compact taskbar.

    Second, while having the "Show Desktop" button as a standard button on the taskbar now, it would help gretly if it were flagged or had an icon. I stumpled across the button, on the far, far right of the taskbar, by accident.

    Third, I'm not too wild about the up triangle used to Show Hidden Icons. The action flag is a good addition, however.

    Fourth, I got so used to using Windows-U-U to shut down my computers, I get frustrated it can't be used anymore. Using that combo was especially nice when I shut ff my computer at night. I new where the keys were and didn't need to turn on the room lights.

    Fifth, and really, REALLY picky, is I hate the new version of Solitaire. I couldn't care less about my win loss average or how many games I've played. I hate the halo effect, which is just one more example of a programmer with far too much time on his hands and no idea of what the user really wants. I also hate the automatic card exposing. It's really distracting.

    Sixth, I hope Microsoft will realize that although some 64 bit apps do exist, they are still not the norm, even after the first 64 bit chips and OS have been around for years, decades even. Although only my 6 year old flat bed scanner won't work, and Canon refuses to update the drivers) there are probably beaucoup items that will need WinXP emulation to work correctly. Let's hope they can get this part to work by October.
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    Monday, May 18, 2009 11:38 PM
  • Harharharharhar.....True, true, true.....Even when you do accidentally click on the shutdown button, the computer will not shutdown, there will be prompt that will pop-up if you still have open programs......
    Monday, May 18, 2009 11:38 PM
  • Oh My god guys I just installed an oldie but a goodie Mech Warrior 4 vengeance on windows 7 simply amazing with the old game no issues installing it or getting it to run on 7 even esc and go directily to desktop from a mission like that nothing simply closed the game and return to the desktop

    another thing I had it installed on windows vista. it fought me every inch of the way install issues iperformance issues it sucked but Mechwarrior granted I shut all the background apps to get the most out of it but my god the game played so nice

    PS windows 7 is really showing how bad vista was even though I didn't have a lot of issues my 3 things is games MS flight sim x and Mechwarrior and video editing all ran perfect no issues I'm going back into Mechwarrior now and play through the campaign buh bye
    Posted By Mikro
    Tuesday, May 19, 2009 2:42 AM
  • I migrated from Vista to RC on my Sony laptop FS415B, but the touchpad driver loaded was the wrong one.  Instead of loading the working driver from the Vista config, RC loaded a different driver.  The result was that there was no way to control clicking/tapping, which soon drove me nuts.  So, I loaded the Vista driver which is the Alps touchpad driver 7.0.301.4, which works perfectly.

    Otherwise everything is great, and the graphics work better than Vista.  Well done!

    Andy Clark
    Tuesday, May 19, 2009 3:47 AM
  • I don't know about any of you, but I found the fix menu in the photo viewer to be one of the better improvements in Vista.  I liked being able to crop and fix red eye/color of an image without having to open int in another program, it was quick and easy.  I think that it is a feature that should be brought back.
    Tuesday, May 19, 2009 3:50 AM
  • There is no way to pin the Recycle Bin to the Taskbar.  That's possible in Vista, and desirable in Windows 7, because it gives the user a quick way to empty the Recycle Bin without having to minimize any currently open windows.

    Agreed, That would be very nice.  That was always a feature I liked in Ubuntu or other Linux distributions was the ability to drag a file down the to taskbar and not have to worry about minimizing anything over the icon.
    Tuesday, May 19, 2009 3:58 AM
  • I noticed a small yet annoying bug.  I was playing Mahjong Titans in full-screen through Windows Media Center's Extras category.  I lost the game and clicked "End Game" to exit the game and go back to the Extras menu.  The game closed and the menu came up, but the full-screen was not on my whole screen.  It was translated to the lower-right 3/4 of the screen, so some of WMC was not visible including the minimize, restore, and close buttons.
    Tuesday, May 19, 2009 4:17 AM
  •      Tiny bugs needing fixes in Windows 7. For my test machine I decided to try something different, I'm running a Toshiba Satellite series laptop with an AMD Turion 64 motherboard. I'm currently running the 32 bit version of RC as I felt that it would be the more popular version upon release but have considered installing a copy of the 64 bit version on one of my other Hard Drives. I had 4 gigs of ram installed but I switched it down to a 2 gig chip as it better reflects the computers currently on the market.
         ATI has some minor compatibility errors with Win 7 but that's mostly due to the Catalyst control center being designed for Vista. A new software program is probably on it's way from ATI. 
         I don't believe there would be any difference between running it with a 500 gig HD or if I used the original 320 gig, but I did notice that the Windows performance rating dropped from a 5.0 to a 2.0 after the clean boot intallation of Windows 7 RC on the 500gig. Strangely enough, I had the 500 gig loaded with junk while running Vista and 7 Beta on it and it pulled a 5.0, but being completely clean and reformatted (and only 8 months old) it dropped to a 2.0! Me thinks the performance rating is based on what the newest most expensive product is... Like saying that my 92 Dodge isn't as good as if I upgraded to a New Nissan Titan. Great selling point but not really true. I can't even fill up the 160 gig that's in my old emachine laptop! 
         Here's a few generic comments on other things.
         Like Vista, there's an incompatability problem with older Win programs. The most irritating is the "unreadable word document." I have old word docs going back to windows 95 (transferred from computer to computer over the years) and there is not one program that can open a microsoft word document from Win 95, 98 or ME properly in the current or previous OS. Strangely, my secondary OS (Linux) has a program that opens them fine without any formatting glitches or errors.
         Speaking of OS, I've tried running Linux alongside Win 7 both as an installation on the primary drive and on a boot drive. No problems at all... except when shutting down and rebooting Win 7.
         Initially there were connection problems with my wireless router as Win 7 did not want to join the internet crowd and stayed in local access mode until forced to, but a quick download of linksys software eliminated that little problem. The Windows connection center no longer makes the connection but still monitors the network in it's simple way. Network magic is so much better and works just fine with Win 7.  
         I still miss the simple but easy to use "searching Dog" from Windows XP. The search on the start menu in Vista and Win 7 is fine but it lacks easily accessable search refinement and simple interaction. (Tested and complained about by my 13 year old daughter.)
         Internet Explorer lockups!!!! Oy Vey! Flash player has locked, Adobe movie has locked, IE has locked, shut down or restarted so many times I gave up on documenting them. Even did it three times while loading my little avatar picture for this forum! Downloads have failed... and on and on. the neatest one is whenever I right click to save an image from a webpage it pops up a window that says:
        "Pictures.library-ms is no longer working. This Library can be safely deleted from your computer. Folders that have been included will not be affected."
    You click OK and the box appears again, then you click ok again and then you can save the picture.
    I'm not even sure what that's all about! Since I rarely save pics from web pages it doesn't bug me too much but I can see where it could get irritating.
         Firefox works fine as an internet browser on Win 7. Actually Firefox is superior to IE because it actually works! I don't know if its all the added bits that IE has that screws it up or if it's just buggy in design, but I have resorted to using firefox whenever I'm going to an important webpage as the lockups can get very irritating very fast. 
         We'll see what the next few weeks brings!
    • Edited by tylander Tuesday, May 19, 2009 6:10 AM Couple of spelling errors more that I missed I'm sure
    Tuesday, May 19, 2009 5:56 AM
  • Harharharharhar.....True, true, true.....Even when you do accidentally click on the shutdown button, the computer will not shutdown, there will be prompt that will pop-up if you still have open programs......

    I wish people would just acknowledge that they just don't like the Vista/Windows 7 shutdown approach and move on.  One can complain if one likes, but creating scenarios that range for the illogical to the impossible is just silly and dragging out what is actually a non-argument..  As to accidentally "shutting down your server," last I checked this is a Windows 7 forum not a Server 2008 forum.  How can you accidentally shut down your server from within a Windows 7 client? If you ignore that one, you get to "I am going to lose all my data" but that doesn't hold up since the app should prompt you to save and the OS will tell you that you have an open app.  Even with the somewhat more realistic "I lost my download," if you accidentally hit the button/command, were you still not sitting there to see the black screen and warning for a few seconds?  Granted, for this one they should stretch the time-out but that just a fix of the existing feature (not a re-design)  Of course, if it is such a crisis, just change the function of the button to do nothing.  It is not even a new feature (just new to XP users) and the world hasn't been in crisis with lost data, shut down servers, and missing files for the past couple years. 

    Sorry for the perceived lack of sympathy to those who are so involved in this from the XP end. I actually do sympathize with the fact that you struggle with (or don't like) the feature - I don't agree but do sympathize.   I am sure that someone can design a little app (or hack) so that it will do what you want.  Please make it about your dislike of the feature though, not about unrealistic disaster scenarios and elaborate rationalizations. I could come on here and say that if you press the power button your computer will self-destruct, or that it will turn into a toaster or a Mac (pretty much the same thing from my perspective) and it would be based in just about the same level of reality....   


    Stephen
     
    • Edited by swyost Tuesday, May 19, 2009 7:20 AM
    Tuesday, May 19, 2009 7:06 AM
  • annoyed that windows mobile device centre still isn't working for my omnia with windows mobile on it , I have had to install the vista version of sync centre in order to get my calendar syncing with outlook :!

     

    windows search when it works is excellent but seems a bit sluggish and hard to reset to defaults if you dare refine the search paramaters ?

     

    otherwise all good so far :)

    Tuesday, May 19, 2009 7:12 AM

  • I feel obliged to direct this comment at all those chiming in that "they don't listen"...
    These sorts of comments really are annoying, untrue, and wholly non-constructive.

    Stehen



    Then don't use it.

    Stephen



    Sorry for the perceived lack of sympathy

    Stephen



    Ok Mac Davis, whatever you say.


    Tuesday, May 19, 2009 7:38 AM
  • Please bring back the toolbar in the taskbar for windows media player 12 when minimized (like in media player 11) . The mouseover control are not sufficient and slow in response.
    Tuesday, May 19, 2009 8:45 AM
  • I'd like to see the Vista calendar app improved on added to Win7.  It has its flaws, but it's small and handy.  I don't want to keep a multi-function memory hog open just for a few appointment reminders, nor to I want to maintain an online calender.  For now I'll have to revert back to the Mozilla Sunbird calender.
    Tuesday, May 19, 2009 9:09 AM
  • Ok, as Microsoft decision concerning the Classic Start Menu has been already taked, I've tried in the last 2 weeks to convince a software company who already sold the classic menu for office to develop a similar feature for W7. They have sent me a mail today, that they accept the challenge. The product will be available at this page: http://www.classicstartmenu.com/ So if Microsoft don't want to add a feature requested by his customers, it will be always a third-party company to respond !
    Tuesday, May 19, 2009 9:17 AM
  • Very much agree. Make the built in windows calendar able to add appointements and birthdays with a built in reminder and alarm! That would rock and improve productivity so much.
    Tuesday, May 19, 2009 9:34 AM
  • Add support for .bin and .iso files.

    Tuesday, May 19, 2009 9:45 AM
  • when right-click -> play all in wmp12, make it so that it dosent maximize the now playing window and does it in the background.
    Tuesday, May 19, 2009 9:47 AM
  • Please bring back the toolbar in the taskbar for windows media player 12 when minimized (like in media player 11) . The mouseover control are not sufficient and slow in response.

    Ding! Ding! Ding! We have a winner!
    Tuesday, May 19, 2009 12:29 PM
  • Ok, as Microsoft decision concerning the Classic Start Menu has been already taked, I've tried in the last 2 weeks to convince a software company who already sold the classic menu for office to develop a similar feature for W7. They have sent me a mail today, that they accept the challenge. The product will be available at this page: http://www.classicstartmenu.com/ So if Microsoft don't want to add a feature requested by his customers, it will be always a third-party company to respond !

    While I am not sold on the new office interface, I have adapted to the new W7 interface and am twice as quick. What I am perceiving here is a reluctance for certain individuals to learn new tricks.

    Please, clear the slate and come at W7 with a fresh perspective. Try to accomplish tasks with the workflow envisioned. Once comfortable, go back to XP and compare. Do not try to twist W7 into an XP mold. Like Mac, when the whole OSX rebirth happened, this is a different way of doing things. I believe, if you truly adapt and try W7 the way it is designed, the benefits will become obvious. Then again, for some, maybe not...
    Tuesday, May 19, 2009 12:33 PM
  • who ever talked about that issue with the recycle bin and it not being not being able to be pinned to the taskbar is right. the odd thing is that i was able to do that in the beta version of Windows 7, or was just just by error? well, i hope that they fix this for those of you who want this or i may fix this myself if microsoft doesn't. and why can it be pinned to the start menu? i think that is slightly pointless for the recycling bin? lol
    Tuesday, May 19, 2009 12:53 PM
  • ---Away Mode improperly specified or implemented---

    In both 7000x64 and 7100x64, Sleep Mode works properly for me, but Away Mode has a significant problem.

    When the PC awakes (from S3) to perform a scheduled task (such as TV recording or disk defragmenting), it enters Away Mode. But Away Mode has a bug with regard to the monitor:
    (1) The monitor should remain asleep. Instead, it wakes and displays a blank (dark) screen.
    (2) The monitor remains in that state for the duration of the scheduled task, unless I supply input to the keyboard or mouse. If I do supply user input, then the monitor displays the login screen (as it should), and then goes to sleep (as it should) after the configured idle timeout period. But if I do not supply user input, the monitor does not sleep until the scheduled task finishes and the computer goes back to sleep (S3).

    Both of those behaviors are incorrect. In Away Mode, the monitor should not wake in the first place; and if it does, it should turn off after the specified idle time, even if no user input is ever supplied.

    This problem has existed in both the Beta and RC, with the Vista64 video drivers (182.50), the Windows7x64 beta WDDM drivers (185.81), and the Windows7x64 WHQL WDDM drivers (185.85). (All other drivers in my system are supplied automatically by Windows.) I don't know if it's a problem with the drivers or with the Away Mode logic. If it's a driver problem, then the drivers should not be WHQL-certified; correct power-management behavior should not be optional.

    I recognize that Away Mode is not a power-saving mode per se. Still, there is no excuse for throwing energy away by turning on the monitor just to display a blank screen (my monitor burns 120W). And it's especially unfortunate that Away Mode suppresses the idle timeout that would ordinarily turn the monitor off again. Away Mode should not be using *more* energy than the normal Awake state.

    Microsoft should be aware that this is a significant flaw. It took years before power management worked properly in XP on my main home PC. Vista's power management never worked properly on desktop PCs I've seen (which is a reason I skipped Vista). Although I am otherwise pleased with Windows 7, I would hesitate to purchase the released product unless power management is first shown to work properly in an update to the RC.


    Some details: in the Power Options, Multimedia Settings, Away Mode is not selected (Allow Sleep is selected instead). Media sharing is disabled. Wake on LAN is disabled. There is no Away Mode BIOS support.

    I tried to disable Away Mode via:
     powercfg -setacvalueindex scheme_current sub_sleep 25dfa149-5dd1-4736-b5ab-e8a37b5b8187 0
     powercfg -setactive scheme_current
     reboot
    but it had no effect on the problem (even though "powercfg -qh" shows that the setting did change).

    GA-P35-DS3Lr2(F8) Q9450 OCZ8500(4GB) GTX260(WDDM1.1/185.85) 3xWDGreenPower(1TB)SATA
    WinTV1600 GGW-H20L 3007WFP(2560x1600) 6.1.7100x64 Avast4.8.1335

    Tuesday, May 19, 2009 1:43 PM
  • I don't know about any of you, but I found the fix menu in the photo viewer to be one of the better improvements in Vista.  I liked being able to crop and fix red eye/color of an image without having to open int in another program, it was quick and easy.  I think that it is a feature that should be brought back.
    MS removed several applications from the Windows installation disk, but they are available for download from www.microsoft.com\windowslive

    Including a new and improved photo gallery compared to the one bundled in Vista so you can still fix your pictures.

    I think MS resorted to users having to download programs that used to be bundled with Windows to avoid some of the antitrust lawsuits they have been receiving.  So instead of bundling the programs with the Windows installation disk you now download them from the website www.microsoft.com\windowslive.


    Tuesday, May 19, 2009 2:59 PM
  • I don't know about any of you, but I found the fix menu in the photo viewer to be one of the better improvements in Vista.  I liked being able to crop and fix red eye/color of an image without having to open int in another program, it was quick and easy.  I think that it is a feature that should be brought back.
    MS removed several applications from the Windows installation disk, but they are available for download from www.microsoft.com\windowslive

    Including a new and improved photo gallery compared to the one bundled in Vista so you can still fix your pictures.

    I think MS resorted to users having to download programs that used to be bundled with Windows to avoid some of the antitrust lawsuits they have been receiving.  So instead of bundling the programs with the Windows installation disk you now download them from the website www.microsoft.com\windowslive.



    Yes, you do have to download Windows Live Photo Gallery and I believe that is related to the antitrust settlement but I will add that it is not new and also not improved.  It is pretty much the program that has been around for download for over a year.  While it has some nice feautures, it is much slower than Vista Photo Gallery.  Because it is web enabled it can also be painfully slow if on a sluggish network/internet connection....

    Stephen
    Tuesday, May 19, 2009 3:30 PM
  • Harharharharhar.....True, true, true.....Even when you do accidentally click on the shutdown button, the computer will not shutdown, there will be prompt that will pop-up if you still have open programs......

    I wish people would just acknowledge that they just don't like the Vista/Windows 7 shutdown approach and move on.  One can complain if one likes, but creating scenarios that range for the illogical to the impossible is just silly and dragging out what is actually a non-argument..  As to accidentally "shutting down your server," last I checked this is a Windows 7 forum not a Server 2008 forum.  How can you accidentally shut down your server from within a Windows 7 client? If you ignore that one, you get to "I am going to lose all my data" but that doesn't hold up since the app should prompt you to save and the OS will tell you that you have an open app.  Even with the somewhat more realistic "I lost my download," if you accidentally hit the button/command, were you still not sitting there to see the black screen and warning for a few seconds?  Granted, for this one they should stretch the time-out but that just a fix of the existing feature (not a re-design)  Of course, if it is such a crisis, just change the function of the button to do nothing.  It is not even a new feature (just new to XP users) and the world hasn't been in crisis with lost data, shut down servers, and missing files for the past couple years. 

    Sorry for the perceived lack of sympathy to those who are so involved in this from the XP end. I actually do sympathize with the fact that you struggle with (or don't like) the feature - I don't agree but do sympathize.   I am sure that someone can design a little app (or hack) so that it will do what you want.  Please make it about your dislike of the feature though, not about unrealistic disaster scenarios and elaborate rationalizations. I could come on here and say that if you press the power button your computer will self-destruct, or that it will turn into a toaster or a Mac (pretty much the same thing from my perspective) and it would be based in just about the same level of reality....   


    Stephen
     

    OK Stephen, let me explain to you in plain words why the no-confirmation shutdown is so dumb.

    Simplifying a bit, when you click shutdown, Windows sends a message to each running application telling it to quit if it can.   If there is unsaved data, a well behaved application will advise Windows that it's not ready to quit, and Windows will show the appropriate prompts before continuing with shutdown.  However this approach depends upon every application responding appropriately, including third party applications over which MS has limited control.

    Now you may not be concerned about badly written third party applications failing to respond properly to a shut-down request, and that's fair enough.  But there's one class of applications you should be concerned about, and that's WebApps.  Try writing a long post into this forum and clicking ShutDown before you post your pearls of wisdom.  Sayonara, oyster.

    That said, I don't see this as much of a problem when it's so easy to evade by changing the default closedown option.  On the other hand, implementing a choice (confirmation/no confirmation) or a countdown would surely be a very very tiny piece of work, and from an external perspective it seems bone-headed or bone-idle not to have done so.

    Tuesday, May 19, 2009 3:42 PM
  • REMEMBER EACH FOLDER'S VIEW SETTINGS

    This option , which was present in the 'Folder Options'  menu since W98 is missing in 7.

    My work divides nicely in projects. I create a project folder containing all the files in the project and place a shortcut to it on the desktop. This folder is sized like a menu and placed at the right edge of my two screen monitor setup. To work on a particular part of the project I simply click on the appropriate file. Easy.
    Only for the initial creation of a particular file do I need to bother with the Start Menu so I care little what it looks like, but not having the folders remember their size and position independently of each other is a pain.
    Tuesday, May 19, 2009 3:47 PM
  • One thing about windows firewall.
    It will be realy very nice adding same notification/rule auto creation function as when program is trying to listen to some communication also on the outgoing direction. It will allow then to bloc all communications and yust wait for program trying to go out and then allow/deny it instead of watching logs and then configuring outgoing rules manualy.

    David
    Tuesday, May 19, 2009 4:03 PM
  • I have commented, since the early Vista releases, on the method of deploying the "Global" Adminstrative account. If one reads this, and other forums on the web, it is obviously a very desirable feature.
    I am disappointed that, once again, it does not appear in Windows 7. It is extremely irritating, and badly thought out, that after installation of Windows 7, the user/installer, finds he only has limited Administrative rights to his own computer!
    Would it not make sense to have this, as was done automatically in XP and aerlier OS's, to be logged in, without hindrance, as the Global Administrator?
    It would do no harm, during the relevant portion of the install prcedure, to have a message adivising the installer that it would be a good idea, for security reasons, to set an user account and use it as default AFTER the install.
    This has, in fact, been common default practise with most Linux distributions, for years.
    Without labouring on, there are several other instances, still in the RC, of items which should be selective, rather than defaults.


    Tuesday, May 19, 2009 4:06 PM
  • On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 11:09 AM, Windows Live Alerts from TechNet Forums <forumsup@microsoft.com> wrote:
    > Another user, Stickywulf, has replied to a thread you have subscribed to in
    > the Windows 7 Hardware Compatibility Forum.
    >
    > Thread Title is possible to use XP drivers in compatibility mode?
    > Started by:
    > Guillermo.Marraco
    >
    > Reply:
    >
    > Is that the Epson Stylus Color 600 ?
    > If it is then I think it just uses the Epson Standard 2 Driver.
    >
    > Click start, and then type "control printers"
    > Click "add new printer"
    > Choose "add a local printer"
    > Choose "use an existing port (LPT1)"
    > Choose manufacturer "Epson" and printer "Epson ESC/P Standard 2" and click

    I tried "Epson ESC/P Standard 2", and it does not works. It prints random characters.

    (I'm 100% sure that the Epson Stylus color 600 is a ESC/P2 printer, because it is in XP)

    Also tried to use Windows XP virtual machine, but it looks like it does not directly access the LPT2 port.

    I hoped to install it in virtual machine, and share the printer with Windows 7. If where possible, it would unblock lots of future updates to Win7, since many updates are blocked because of lack of drivers for expensive printers.

    Tuesday, May 19, 2009 4:26 PM

  • This graphic card was more then enough to get a score of 3.1 in Vista, I have a score of 2.9 in Windows 7. Not a big deal, I don't go by the scores.



    You may not go for the score but the OS will. Your system is not up to par & you should not hope for sterling performance. As the 'Good Book' says - don't put new wine into old bottles or they will break. Put new wine into new bottles.
    For new OS get new hardware or upgrade them in order to get good performance lest you start blaming your tools instead of yourself when things go wrong.
    My system got a 6.0 for graphics performance but I will still go back to the good ol' XP when the evaluation period is over cos the Win7 is going to cost a bomb.

    Gigabyte EP35 DS4 P4C2 6750/4Gb DDR2 1066/ NV 8800GT 256mb/ 2x1TB SATA/ 1x750Gb SATA/ 1x500Gb SATA/ DVDRW x4 sets/ Pinnacle AVDV capture card/ Antec Trio 550W PSU
    Tuesday, May 19, 2009 4:34 PM
  • At initial setup, if you boot with a USB stick attached containing RAID/AHCI drivers, at the point where you create and select the install partition you receive the error:

    "Setup was unable to create a system partition or locate an existing partition."


    Here's what I had the first time I tried to install Win7 RC:

    Boot device 1 = CD-ROM
    Boot device 2 = Blank Intel SSD
    Boot device 3 = USB stick with ICH10R AHCI drivers

    Setup starts fine, you can load the drivers, it lets you choose a partition but then says "unable to create system partition".

    The solution for me was as follows:

    1) Do not have USB stick plugged in when booting, so only:
    Boot device 1 = CD-ROM
    Boot device 2 = Blank Intel SSD

    2) At the setup page which says you can load other drivers, insert the USB stick, click the link and load the drivers

    3) Unplug the USB stick

    4) Continue with setup


    If you search you'll find quite a few references to this problem. Somethings wrong with the app to select the install partition if it's getting confused between what you have selected and an unrelated action to load drivers from a different device.


    I had similar problem (ICH7). Rebooted and started again, and it worked.
    Tuesday, May 19, 2009 4:38 PM
  • I like some of the new features that microsoft has dne in Windows 7 to help Laptop PCs have battery life but they need to take it a step further. I have been sugesting this since Vista was in beta and they have not been listening, but i guess they hate the idea. well, actually i have two ideas.

    One is to change the battery mettering system in Windows to make it more reliable. One of my notebook PCs can have up to 4 batteries connected at once. I know that seems crazy, but its true. I would like to see a new battery mettering system in Windows so that when i have all of the batteries connected to the notebook at once, Windows does not hibernate when the last one bas 50% left and the combimed total of all the batteries is about 3% or so. I would like it so that Windows metters the batteries individually as well as together. it should show the overall when you hover over the icon in the taskbar. It should not use that total for when it thinks it needs to hbernate the PC or not. It should only take total of each battery individually. and then when the last one gets to 3% or when or whatever, then it shutsdown or whatever action you tell it to take.

    I also want them to add aditional functionability to the screen saver stuff. They keep changing the desktop wallpaper options, why not have better screen saver options to help us save on battery life for once. There should be an option so that we can have one screen savor on Battery power mode and then another screen saver on AC mode... and just like with the Desktop slide show the screen savers will automaticly change when you go from power source to power source....
    Tuesday, May 19, 2009 5:00 PM
  • This graphic card was more then enough to get a score of 3.1 in Vista, I have a score of 2.9 in Windows 7. Not a big deal, I don't go by the scores.
    Its weird that your scores went down when you upgraded to Windows 7 because When i upgraded to Windows 7, my scores went up, but just by a bit. it was a lot less of a difference than of what happened to you. and oddly when i went to Windows 7 x86 to Windows 7 x64 my main graphics score went done a bit from 3.5 to 3.4...lol, while my gaming graphics stayed the same. i think thats what i get for having a shared graphics controller on my tablet PC. now my question is, why did the score go down?...lol
    Tuesday, May 19, 2009 5:21 PM
  • I like some of the new features that microsoft has dne in Windows 7 to help Laptop PCs have battery life but they need to take it a step further. I have been sugesting this since Vista was in beta and they have not been listening, but i guess they hate the idea. well, actually i have two ideas.

    One is to change the battery mettering system in Windows to make it more reliable. One of my notebook PCs can have up to 4 batteries connected at once. I know that seems crazy, but its true. I would like to see a new battery mettering system in Windows so that when i have all of the batteries connected to the notebook at once, Windows does not hibernate when the last one bas 50% left and the combimed total of all the batteries is about 3% or so. I would like it so that Windows metters the batteries individually as well as together. it should show the overall when you hover over the icon in the taskbar. It should not use that total for when it thinks it needs to hbernate the PC or not. It should only take total of each battery individually. and then when the last one gets to 3% or when or whatever, then it shutsdown or whatever action you tell it to take.

    I also want them to add aditional functionability to the screen saver stuff. They keep changing the desktop wallpaper options, why not have better screen saver options to help us save on battery life for once. There should be an option so that we can have one screen savor on Battery power mode and then another screen saver on AC mode... and just like with the Desktop slide show the screen savers will automaticly change when you go from power source to power source....

    I understand your point but can't quite say I agree in this case.  With respect to battery usage, I find that WIndows 7 does a very good job of accurately tracking the battery level and rate of discharge.  Since running multiple batteries like that is rather unique, and altering the system to track would seem to necessarily involve more CPU cyles, I am inclined to think the system itself would then be somewhat less efficient.  Whatever allows the system to use the absolute minimum of power while on battery is what I would prefer and I think they are doing a pretty good job at this point.  With respect to the screen saver, my feeling is the same. As it stands, you can set the screen to turn off at an interval less than the screen saver - that would seem to be as good an approach as one can get and doesn't require it to do more work.  Just my opinions though....

    Stephen


    Tuesday, May 19, 2009 5:39 PM
  • I like some of the new features that microsoft has dne in Windows 7 to help Laptop PCs have battery life but they need to take it a step further. I have been sugesting this since Vista was in beta and they have not been listening, but i guess they hate the idea. well, actually i have two ideas.

    One is to change the battery mettering system in Windows to make it more reliable. One of my notebook PCs can have up to 4 batteries connected at once. I know that seems crazy, but its true. I would like to see a new battery mettering system in Windows so that when i have all of the batteries connected to the notebook at once, Windows does not hibernate when the last one bas 50% left and the combimed total of all the batteries is about 3% or so. I would like it so that Windows metters the batteries individually as well as together. it should show the overall when you hover over the icon in the taskbar. It should not use that total for when it thinks it needs to hbernate the PC or not. It should only take total of each battery individually. and then when the last one gets to 3% or when or whatever, then it shutsdown or whatever action you tell it to take.

    I also want them to add aditional functionability to the screen saver stuff. They keep changing the desktop wallpaper options, why not have better screen saver options to help us save on battery life for once. There should be an option so that we can have one screen savor on Battery power mode and then another screen saver on AC mode... and just like with the Desktop slide show the screen savers will automaticly change when you go from power source to power source....

    I understand your point but can't quite say I agree in this case.  With respect to battery usage, I find that WIndows 7 does a very good job of accurately tracking the battery level and rate of discharge.  Since running multiple batteries like that is rather unique, and altering the system to track would seem to necessarily involve more CPU cyles, I am inclined to think the system itself would then be somewhat less efficient.  Whatever allows the system to use the absolute minimum of power while on battery is what I would prefer and I think they are doing a pretty good job at this point.  With respect to the screen saver, my feeling is the same. As it stands, you can set the screen to turn off at an interval less than the screen saver - that would seem to be as good an approach as one can get and doesn't require it to do more work.  Just my opinions though....

    Stephen



    good point on the battery thing with the cpu cycle thing. but of course then different types of batteries are mettered differently as well in a way. i'm not going into detail on that.... well, another thing about my battery mettering idea is that Windows does not have to keeo mettering the dead batteries.... The system should only be monitoring living batteries.... and then when a battery dies it stops monitoring it or just checks up on it every 5 to 10 minutes, whichever  or whatever the user perfers. and when a battery is drained it should be marked as "drained"....

    -Steven
    Tuesday, May 19, 2009 6:04 PM
  • Overall I'm pleased with the performance. Things that need work is the sensitivity of the "Show Desktop" button at bottom right screen. Too easy to drift the cursor to the bottom right and have your work dissapear. I also don't understand how the stiff requirements for Virtual XP aor Windows Virtual PC could be a benefit. I assume most user will not have the minimum requirements to use the feature.

    Tuesday, May 19, 2009 6:05 PM
  • Can we have the option to assign some of the new aeropeek and aerosnap functions to mouse buttons...Some mice have more than 3 buttons, so such an assignment should be quite straightforward and very useful for the user.
    Tuesday, May 19, 2009 8:46 PM
  • Can we have the option to assign some of the new aeropeek and aerosnap functions to mouse buttons...Some mice have more than 3 buttons, so such an assignment should be quite straightforward and very useful for the user.

    That would be a good idea... because i find myseld using it at times for certain applications... I would also like the ability to disable aeropeek and aerosnap. is that even possible?
    Tuesday, May 19, 2009 8:59 PM
  • Arg. Pasted directly from Word 2007 to no avail.
    • Edited by Brimstone67 Wednesday, May 20, 2009 12:39 AM
    Tuesday, May 19, 2009 9:08 PM
  • ugh, can't anyone (Mr. R.V. anywhere?) edit this rockslide of text? my eyes are experiencing some kind of bsod.
    Mob. AMD64 3000+, 1 G RAM, Mob. ATIRadeon9700, 20x DVDRW, C:XPSP3 (55G),D:WIN7 (25G),F:DATA (250G)
    Tuesday, May 19, 2009 9:39 PM
  • ugh, can't anyone (Mr. R.V. anywhere?) edit this rockslide of text? my eyes are experiencing some kind of bsod.
    Mob. AMD64 3000+, 1 G RAM, Mob. ATIRadeon9700, 20x DVDRW, C:XPSP3 (55G),D:WIN7 (25G),F:DATA (250G)
    Ya, just edited but no change yet. Don't copy from Word 2007 and post it here. MS boards doen't like MS products I guess.
    Tuesday, May 19, 2009 9:40 PM
  • Found Another Bug.

    To make a roaming profile you need to go to the Users Profile tab in the properties of Computer.

    Find the profile and choose "Copy to"

    In Windows 7 the "Copy To" is GREYED OUT for ALL USERS except the Default Profile. I have tried a Local User (regular) and two different domain users (regular). I have logged in as both Domain Admin and Regular Admin.

    Machine has been restarted so the profiles are no longer loaded in the registry and I CAN delete them (Delete option is Available). However, I just can't "copy  to" using profile tab.

    I have logged in as a Local Administrator (yes I enabled it) and also a Domain Administrator. Both have the greyed out "copy to" button. It is not a permissions issue.

    It is available this way in Vista as I have done it per these Microsoft Instructions.

    http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc766489(WS.10).aspx

    http://i.technet.microsoft.com/cc766489.1265e2ad-1570-406a-b107-6cbabe413b0c(en-us).gif

    Create a Default Network User Profile
    1. Log on to a computer running Windows Vista with any domain user account. Do not use a domain administrator account.

    2. Configure user settings such as background colors and screen savers to meet your company standard. Log off the computer.

    3. Log on to the computer used in step 1 with a domain administrator account.

    4. Use the Run command to connect to the Netlogon share of a domain controller. For Example, the path used in the contoso.com domain looks like \\HQ-CON-SRV-01\NETLOGON

    5. Create a new folder in the Netlogon share and name it Default User.v2.

    6. Click Start, right-click Computer, and then click Properties.

    7. Click Advanced System Settings. Under User Profiles, click Settings.

      1265e2ad-1570-406a-b107-6cbabe413b0c
    8. The User Profiles dialog box shows a list of profiles stored on the computer. Click the name of the user you used in step 1. Click Copy To.

    9. In the Copy To dialog box, type the network path to the Windows Vista default user folder you created in step 5 in the Copy profile to text box. For example, the network path in the contoso.com domain is \\HQ-CON-SRV-01\NETLOGON \Default User.v2.

    10. In Permitted to use, click Change. Type the name Everyone,and then click OK.

    Click OK to start copying the profile. Close all remaining windows and log off the computer when the copying process is complete.


    lforbes
    Tuesday, May 19, 2009 10:23 PM
  • I was wondering why my media player was showing me wrong album covers. I found out quite by accident windows explorer is hiding folder.jpg files from me.  I was trying to rename a jpg to folder.jpg and win exp told me there was already a file called folder.jpg.  But of course I saw no such file.  Searching came up empty.  I have it set to show hidden files too.  I even set it to treat the folder as "general items" not music.  Finally I copied a folder.jpg from another folder and let it overwrite the phantom folder.jpg.  That did it.  Bug or feature?
    Tuesday, May 19, 2009 11:11 PM
  • I just thought of a bit of feedback that deserves big, bold letters:

    Please provide some kind of option to turn off all the "magic" in Explorer - so it can be a way for someone savvy with computer technology to just look at the files!

    <LI> Don't hide files you don't think we should see.

    <LI> Don't replace times and dates with "3 minutes ago".

    <LI> Please give us an option that just makes it possible for every folder on the hard drive to be seen one way - as files.

    -Noel

    Wednesday, May 20, 2009 12:15 AM
  • I just thought of a bit of feedback that deserves big, bold letters:

    Please provide some kind of option to turn off all the "magic" in Explorer - so it can be a way for someone savvy with computer technology to just look at the files!

    <LI> Don't hide files you don't think we should see.

    <LI> Don't replace times and dates with "3 minutes ago".

    <LI> Please give us an option that just makes it possible for every folder on the hard drive to be seen one way - as files.

    -Noel


    In Windows Explorer, go to Organize and then Folder and Search Options and then view - change show or hide to whatever you want. That usually addresses point 1.  As for ppint 2, change the display to details (the option is usually an icon on the toolbar that says "More Options" if you hover over it). You can turn off grouping by right clicking on the list of files, choose Group By, and then choosing none (or some other option).  If you want different columns, right click on the column header row when in detail view.  With respect to point 3, I am not quite sure what you mean but if you follow the steps for point 1, there is an option to set all folders like the current.  Granted, they never did that right in Vista (didn't always remember the setting) so I don't know if it works correctly in Windows 7.  If I misunderstood something - my apologies.  Otherwise, that addresses how to deal with all three in Vista and Windows 7....

    Stephen
      
    Wednesday, May 20, 2009 12:40 AM
  • Can we have the option to assign some of the new aeropeek and aerosnap functions to mouse buttons...Some mice have more than 3 buttons, so such an assignment should be quite straightforward and very useful for the user.

    That would be a good idea... because i find myseld using it at times for certain applications... I would also like the ability to disable aeropeek and aerosnap. is that even possible?

    if it is any motivation for the developers, OSX already has a similar capability. You can assign some functionality to the mouse button that can control the behaviour of expose and spaces...it is quite handy
    Wednesday, May 20, 2009 12:42 AM
  • Windows explorer bug:

    -I saved many web pages to disk. Some where saved as html, others as htm, or other extensions.
    -Then sorted by type (in details, mode).

    Result, .HTM, and .HTML are non sorted. They keeps mixed.
    Wednesday, May 20, 2009 12:45 AM
  • I just thought of a bit of feedback that deserves big, bold letters:

    Please provide some kind of option to turn off all the "magic" in Explorer - so it can be a way for someone savvy with computer technology to just look at the files!

    <LI> Don't hide files you don't think we should see.

    <LI> Don't replace times and dates with "3 minutes ago".

    <LI> Please give us an option that just makes it possible for every folder on the hard drive to be seen one way - as files.

    -Noel


    I kind of agree. there needs to be a way to turn off the so called "magic" in Windows explorer. expecially since i hate hows Windows 7 views every folder in "library view" now a days instead of "folder view". if you want to go to the folder view you still can by right clicking on the folder, but is there an option to have it so that Windows 7 browses through the folders instead of the libraries by default? or is that now just a dream of the past?
    Wednesday, May 20, 2009 12:45 AM
  • my all in all opinion of the system is & I understand & hope that MICROSUCK will fix some things in the final release -- 7 does provide much better appearance options than VISTA  - I hate that you do NOT have the classic view option on like in XP, also do NOT like that everything is task bar driven, I prefer a bit of older touch so, had to create shortcuts to my desktop as you would normally have on like XP to key programs & folders - since the RC beta comes with NO e-mail programs you can download the Windows Live package which comes with a Windows Mail program similar to VISTA - I have found that the new AVAST antivirus works with 7 and is free (alot of good praise for AVAST) - also, if you use an optimizer tune up program ADVANCED SYSTEM CARE works on 7 -- it's a pretty good system & I have added & tweaked it here & there for my own personal needs EXCEPT for more control on appearance than VISTA, it's a good thing it's free at the moment - I wouldn't pay for 7, I would stick with VISTA for now but, hopefully MS will fill in some holes & gaps where some programs are needed - AND except only for stability reasons XP is still the best, I just love the look & feel of XP ----- SO, amyone who hasn't pulled the trigger on VISTA or 7 yet hold off until a few more tweaks are done
    Wednesday, May 20, 2009 1:21 AM
  • Thanks for your input, Stephen, but I'm quite knowledgeable about the use of Explorer.  I use Details view preferentially, and generally speaking I'm set up to see most folders in Details view by default.  However, if the system gets it in its head that a folder contains music files or pictures or something else special then bam, we see icons or different columns or whatever.  There are also times that the system conspires to hide things from us.  For example, I made a backup of my (legitimate) copy of my Office CD on the hard drive, and something came along and hid all the cabinet files.

    Win7 does seem to do better at making Explorer views more consistent than Vista, but both show clear intent that Explorer has moved away from being a simple, reliable file manager, and now tries instead to be your personal assistant for accessing stuff on your computer.  This has its merits, but there are those of us who'd rather Explorer just did one thing well (and most importantly consistently).

    Regarding file times, I've mentioned this elsewhere, but I want it to sink into Microsoft's awareness that sometimes one needs to see the seconds of the file date/time (e.g., 10:53:04), but there is simply NO WAY to consistently see this.  You can see seconds values for very old files in Explorer's Properties dialog, but not for files modified (or created or accessed) recently.  Instead Properties shows "2 hours ago" or similar.

    I don't mind that they want Explorer to seem friendly.  I just want ways to turn it off.

    -Noel
    Wednesday, May 20, 2009 2:54 AM
  • Ok, as Microsoft decision concerning the Classic Start Menu has been already taked, I've tried in the last 2 weeks to convince a software company who already sold the classic menu for office to develop a similar feature for W7. They have sent me a mail today, that they accept the challenge. The product will be available at this page: http://www.classicstartmenu.com/ So if Microsoft don't want to add a feature requested by his customers, it will be always a third-party company to respond !

    While I am not sold on the new office interface, I have adapted to the new W7 interface and am twice as quick. What I am perceiving here is a reluctance for certain individuals to learn new tricks.

    Please, clear the slate and come at W7 with a fresh perspective. Try to accomplish tasks with the workflow envisioned. Once comfortable, go back to XP and compare. Do not try to twist W7 into an XP mold. Like Mac, when the whole OSX rebirth happened, this is a different way of doing things. I believe, if you truly adapt and try W7 the way it is designed, the benefits will become obvious. Then again, for some, maybe not...

    As an Administrator, OSX is a complete nightmare to administer compared to OS 9.4 and was the reason I quit being a Mac Tech after 20 years.  What took 3 command keys to fix in OS 9, now takes a 20 command line UNIX commands.

    Just because Microsoft is trying so desparately hard to copy Mac doesn't mean it is a good thing.

    The one benefit of running Microsoft Windows over Mac was the added functionality.   You have so much more control over everything. Mac has always designed their OS to be used by people with the computer knowledge of a 5 year old.  Anyone who wants to do anything beyond the basics can't.

    Windows 7 copying Mac is a bad thing, not a good thing.

    Removing functionality is a bad thing too because people don't want to have stuff taken away from them.  Windows Vista, Windows Server 2008 and Windows 7 all removed quite a bit of functionality that was available with Windows 2003 server and Windows XP. That is the main reason we haven't upgraded yet.
    lforbes
    Wednesday, May 20, 2009 3:55 AM
  • I have commented, since the early Vista releases, on the method of deploying the "Global" Adminstrative account. If one reads this, and other forums on the web, it is obviously a very desirable feature.
    I am disappointed that, once again, it does not appear in Windows 7. It is extremely irritating, and badly thought out, that after installation of Windows 7, the user/installer, finds he only has limited Administrative rights to his own computer!
    Would it not make sense to have this, as was done automatically in XP and aerlier OS's, to be logged in, without hindrance, as the Global Administrator?
    It would do no harm, during the relevant portion of the install prcedure, to have a message adivising the installer that it would be a good idea, for security reasons, to set an user account and use it as default AFTER the install.
    This has, in fact, been common default practise with most Linux distributions, for years.
    Without labouring on, there are several other instances, still in the RC, of items which should be selective, rather than defaults.



    If you have faith in your ability as an administrator not to mess up your PC you can easily put it back. Just disable UAC and take ownernship and then reset the permissions in Windows, Program Files and the registry and reset to Windows XP permissions. I have done this on Windows Vista and Windows 7 both without issue.  In my domain as an administrator I NEED to be an administrator which means I need the ability to modify the HKClasses Root folder (especially seeing as their is no file types manager anymore) as well as the HKLocal Machine.
    lforbes
    Wednesday, May 20, 2009 4:07 AM
  • I was wondering why my media player was showing me wrong album covers. I found out quite by accident windows explorer is hiding folder.jpg files from me.  I was trying to rename a jpg to folder.jpg and win exp told me there was already a file called folder.jpg.  But of course I saw no such file.  Searching came up empty.  I have it set to show hidden files too.  I even set it to treat the folder as "general items" not music.  Finally I copied a folder.jpg from another folder and let it overwrite the phantom folder.jpg.  That did it.  Bug or feature?

    For whatever reason MS considers the file "Folder.jpg" as a protected operating system file so selecting "Show hidden files and folders" will not work.  In order to see it in Windows Explorer you will have to uncheck "Hide protected operating system files" under the Windows Explorer Folder Options - View Tab.

    I do not understand why Folder.jpg should be considered a protected operating system file because as far as I'm aware its only ever used to store album art.

    I actually commented on this on May 14th at 2:57pm in the forum thread "Have Comments about Windows 7 RC? (Part 2 )"

    You won't be the last person to come across this problem when they go to modify their MP3 album art and Folder.jpg already exists, but they cannot see Folder.jpg.

    MS needs to change Folder.jpg so that it is no longer considered a protected operating system file.
    Wednesday, May 20, 2009 4:12 AM
  • I think you totally missed the point I was making. It is actually much easier than your suggestion to take on the role of Global Administrator, that was not my comment.
    But to the aberage user the method remains hidden.
    Wednesday, May 20, 2009 4:22 AM
  • Hey Anthony,

    Please regard this as detailed feedback.

    I have installed windows 7 RC.  Nice and smooth install.  Activated windows, no problems.  Drivers installed are:  Intel chipset x48 application versoin 8.3.1.11010.  Windows program compatiblilty assistent reinstalled using recomended settings, outcome was successfull install.  Intel network driver application verson provistax64_v13.5, outcome was unable to installed due to incompatiable application verson.  Ati 4870x2 Graphics card,  9.4 vista_win7_64_dd driver,  No problems.  9.4 vista32-64_ccc,  The screen flickers on catlysit application install and is working, no problems.  Razor Lycosa key board windows vista 32-64 driver verson 2.04 installed, no problems.  Razor Lachesis mouse driver verson 1.10 installed, no problems.  Direct X10 setup,  downloaded and installed correctly, just the download green bar does not reflect over all procces or time it takes to download.  Sound card is the Creative E-MU1212 Driver verson 2.1 and Application verson 2.1 installed, no problems, appears to function normally.  Downloaded all up dates from windows update,  all installed correctly except the ati update it failed, does not tell me why it failed, update should tell you why it failed instead of an error codes, if possible.  I think it is because I have the lastest update installed for windows 7 anyhow.  The OS tells me if I need to take action on the windows update settings, when update is set to don't check for updates, as well as it does not detect virus protection.  When I change the way  Action Center alerts me to don't notify me about alerts, it stops alerting me.  Did a system health report for the 60 seconds, a warnning report lets me know that it didn't detect an antivirus program installed,  however all tests show a pass mark.  The feature(s) Readyboost with policies changed to better preformence, no problems.  Both Hard disk policies changed to, Turn off windows write caching buffering to improve disk preformance, on problems.  Turned off Windows automatic page file for drive C: set to virtual memory to Zero, no problems.

    Applications install:  Propellerheads Reason 4 for Audio music creation installed, no problems, appears to function normally for now.   Blizzards StarCraft, installed, no problems, however,  you must set Run as administator before you start this game or download the patch update for the first time.  If you do not, the appication does not function normally.   I was able to install it successfully using Windows suggestions for trouble shooting and support from Blizzards web page.  This application then worked normally and installed the patch updates, so far no problems after that.  Did media setting overview, played an audio wav. file I created from Reason 4, no problems in the Windows media playback device so far.  Web page settings overview, no problems.  Windows Defender did a scan, no problems found so far.  Just another personal note seems to have a delay in openning any folder just after boot into the OS,  could be becuase of service with delayed startup?

    So far so good.  Speedy boot up, shut down after 1 hour of restarting on driver installs + applications.  The OS so far seems to learn + make use of prefromance features.

    I hope you find this Feedback useful.

    Dallin

    P.S.  Thank you for letting me try Windows 7 beta build 7000 and this new Release Windows 7 RC build 7100
     



    Wednesday, May 20, 2009 4:55 AM
  • 1/ Vietnamese collation still broken as a friend of mine mentioned before.
    Still hope MS would fix this before or from Win7 RTM.

    Background info on Vietnamese collation data:
    http://vietunicode.sourceforge.net/charset/vietalphabet.html
    http://blogs.msdn.com/michkap/archive/2005/08/27/457224.aspx
    http://blogs.msdn.com/michkap/archive/2008/03/26/8337198.aspx
    http://www.eggheadcafe.com/forumarchives/NETinternationalization/Aug2005/post23518788.asp

    2/ Also, the MS's Vietnamese Input Keyboard has never used by most Vietnamese.
    Most Vietnamese (in & outside Vietnam) use 2 these input keyboards: TELEX & VNI.
    These input keyboard should be added into Win7 RTM.

    I'm live in Vietnam, and I don't know what need to do to help MS fix all those errors involved in Vietnamese Language, which appeared from Win2000. So hope this post would draw some attention from Win7 Team.
    Wednesday, May 20, 2009 6:50 AM
  • There's some Firewall behavior I don't like: my desktop is connected to a home network, and I've given permissions for some of my programs to connect to the internet from a home location, but I haven't explicitely allowed or blocked anything for public networks (which isn't applicable for my desktop, since it never moves). When my network adapter is disabled for any reason (troubleshooting it, or for a split-second while updating drivers) Windows Firewall pops up messages asking me to allow my programs access in public networks---even though I'm not connected to *any* network at all.
    Wednesday, May 20, 2009 8:25 AM
  • I don't mind that they want Explorer to seem friendly.  I just want ways to turn it off.
    Noel, I keep agreeing with you.

    Despite the fact I know it is not going to happen, since windows 7 is "done", I would love to see a overhaul of Windows Explorer. Why MS Paint and Wordpad had a full re-design and Windows Explorer remains almost the same it was in Vista?
    (Note: If it remained the way it was in XP, fine for me, but Vista really messed up with Windows Explorer).

    Why not try a new approach, like the Ribbons? They are not supposed to be the new standard? I like to be able to put commands in the "Title Bar" in Office 2007, and now it is possible to do the same in Paint and Wordpad. But, explorer appears to be "left behind", and we can´t even customize the toolbar anymore.
    I appreciate they are trying to make Explorer more friendly, too, but, if it cost removing very useful features, without giving an option to put back, it´s not a good thing.
    Wednesday, May 20, 2009 12:13 PM
  • I would like to suggest something about mouse movements. I think hundreds of thousands of windows users haver suffered from this thing The problem: When you use an optical mouse on a wooden and polished table; the mouse pointer may sometimes randomly go to the upperright corner. And if you are doing a clicking on somewhere in the screen, suddenly you find yourself closing the app you are working with. This is an annoying situation. The solution: When you maximize the application window; there should be a 2x2 pixel area in topright corner of the screen. And this area should be UNCLICKABLE. I dont think that there will be a problem with the one who wants the close the window indeed. Anyone wanting to close the window can easily do this by clicking on the cross button. In order the overcome this situation, i am not maximizing the application windows. Bu there should be a systematic solution
    Wednesday, May 20, 2009 12:30 PM
  • I would like to suggest something about mouse movements. I think hundreds of thousands of windows users haver suffered from this thing

    The problem: When you use an optical mouse on a wooden and polished table; the mouse pointer may sometimes randomly go to the upperright corner. And if you are doing a clicking on somewhere in the screen, suddenly you find yourself closing the app you are working with. This is an annoying situation.

    The solution: When you maximize the application window; there should be a 2x2 pixel area in topright corner of the screen. And this area should be UNCLICKABLE. I dont think that there will be a problem with the one who wants the close the window indeed. Anyone wanting to close the window can easily do this by clicking on the cross button.

    In order the overcome this situation, i am not maximizing the application windows. Bu there should be a systematic solution
    Wednesday, May 20, 2009 12:31 PM
  • I would like to suggest something about mouse movements. I think hundreds of thousands of windows users haver suffered from this thing
    I disagree. Never suffered from this. The simpliest solution is using a good mouse pad.

    I never look at the X to close a window. If I want to close it, I just do it, move the mouse to the upper corner and click. Done. It would be a real problem for me if the sugested 2x2 unclickable area existed.
    Wednesday, May 20, 2009 12:39 PM
  • No thankyou! I like my no-see-close-windows function. no 2x2 space please.
    Wednesday, May 20, 2009 12:41 PM
  • Probably a lot more people have seen it or maybe it is only on my laptop but after waking up my laptop from sleep and entering my password it says its wrong. A solution was to click "switch user" and then it did recognize the password and let me log on. Kind of a bug id say. Lets hope its gonna bet fixed until the full w7 comes out, the beta I could not even install on my hardware, thank god RC I was able to, looks really good, I like it.
    Wednesday, May 20, 2009 1:01 PM
  • Excellent.....
    I installed specifically copying the failed installation of 7000 bèta. It seemed to hang but I guess the % counters during setup are different. The installation completed in 20-25min. (I had gotten the most correct drivers so they were available during install on the W7 partition) even left the graphics card remain the main graphics controller for the 1st monitor [DVI]. (my mobo has DVI & VGA aswel [could go to 4 monitors]) Secondary (HDMI 1920*1080[HDCP])was also connected during install. All the USB devices (9) were also left inserted w/o problems.
    I did have 1 issue & am not entirely sure where to place it. Personally I thought it was a ganged/unganged problem but there was something else that preceeds/accompanies the OS hanging which is a statement that a 'jack' was detected to be disconnected.
    I had been playing with audio output and @ that point it was set to address the audio device directly. I changed it to address all audio output via directsound 2 days ago & it hasn't crashed since. Let's hope that was it!
    Still strange that XviD & DivX (350Mb/43min) use 30-35% processor capacity [mp3 2ch change to DD = +2%] while x264 1280*720 (8.5Gb/125min) with DTS uses 10-12%. [audio passthrough] I am guessing (not really) that the w&#kers at MS want to keep using their own mp4 codec. Really, it is a piece of ____, focus on an OS you'll get slapped by the EU eventually for incorporating it in the OS & not allowing other software companies to enter that mkt segment. (& there are plenty)
    I have 64bit versions of x264 + XviD + DivX through FFDShow64 so there's no need for an MP4 codec.

    Besides these minor issues I am pleased with the product.
    Wednesday, May 20, 2009 2:32 PM
  • Trying out Windows Virtual PC with Virtual Windows XP installed. Everything works fine, but there is one thing that keeps bugging me: the virtual XP quite often just freezes for about 15 seconds. If I type something during the freeze. it shows up after the Virtual PC becomes responsive again. The 'Real' PC never freezes - I can do anything even when the Virtual PC is frozen.

    Relevant stats: CPU - Intel Core2Duo E8600 [Wolfdale] at 3.3GHz and 4GB of RAM (64-bit system), of which 1GB is allocated to the Virtual PC.

    Regards, Kristaps.
    Wednesday, May 20, 2009 4:46 PM
  • Can you guys add the ability to right click on a folder and change the color of it. I have a few friends that have tons of folders and have a hard time finding them. Arranging folders by color can help eliminate that for the average user. You guys create a suggestive folder color scheme for users, such as- Black folder - contains system files; Red folder - contains Video or Image files; Blue folder - contains Music files. I know we can change icons and would not be practical in the amount of steps that one would have to take to accomplishh that. I also know that there are several programs for sale that offer that feature as well, but it isn't as simple as being able to right click the folder and change it. You could also do this for Icons as well.
    Wednesday, May 20, 2009 5:38 PM
  • IE8 suddenly doesn't want to print or to show print-previews anymore.

    I have had this problem several times and the reason was each time due to the fact that the following folder and it's content was deleted somehow :
    C:\Users\Username\AppData\Local\Temp\Low

    I figured out that this happens when I run [Disc Cleanup of the C-drive] with [Temporary Files] selected.

    This should not happen - I think that it is a little bug that needs to be repared.



    For those who have the problem - it can be solved as follows :
    In C:\users\username\appdata\local\temp
    There should be a folder named LOW
    If that folder is not there : create it.

    Then start the command prompt C:\ in administrator mode
    You can find the command prompt C:\ as follows : StartButton/All Programs\Accessories\
    Click on it with the right mouse button and choose "Run as administrator"

    When the command prompt window opens simply type the following line of text followed by Enter.
    Icacls C:\users\username\Appdata\Local\Temp\Low /setintegritylevel (oi)(ci)low
    username is the name of the user who has the problem.

    Regards
    Picsoe

    Wednesday, May 20, 2009 6:14 PM
  • Probably a lot more people have seen it or maybe it is only on my laptop but after waking up my laptop from sleep and entering my password it says its wrong. A solution was to click "switch user" and then it did recognize the password and let me log on. Kind of a bug id say. Lets hope its gonna bet fixed until the full w7 comes out, the beta I could not even install on my hardware, thank god RC I was able to, looks really good, I like it.
    Out of curiousity, who made your laptop?  I had a version of that problem with the beta but it appeared to be an incompatible HP keyboard filter in the end.  There were times when typing the password on laptop keyboard the yielded a message that it was wrong but it worked on an external keyboard and other times when the reverse was true.  Very annoying and (thankfully) no longer seems to be an issue with the RC....

    Stephen
    Wednesday, May 20, 2009 6:45 PM

  • Picsoe, I cannot help but notice your reference to Temp folder.  I had run into the same problem with Vista.  Check in Control Panel > Internet Options that your folder is located at C:\Users\Picsoe\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows\Temporary Internet Files.   I also noticed if the HS attributes get changed on that folder, it is very uncooperative in being resolved without going to the Command Prompt to fix it.  Unless it gets fixed, access will keep reverting back (to the Temp folder).

    Wednesday, May 20, 2009 6:45 PM
  • BUG #1 - Group Polices DON'T Overwrite Local Security Settings for Offline Files.

    I have a Domain where Offline File Caching is Disabled. It is set in the Default Domain Policy - Computer Configuration - Admin templates-Network - Offline Files - Allow or Disallow the use of Offline Files feature = DISABLED.  It says "At least Windows 2000" so it SHOULD work on Vista and Windows 7 too.

    With my Windows 7 machine Offline Files is still enabled and when I go to manually disable it is Greyed Out.

    When I run gpresult on my Windows 7 Machine I get the following that the Winning GPO is the Default Domain Policy.

    However, Offline files is STILL Enabled.

    Why won't it disable via Group Policy?

    I don't have the network bandwith to waste it with offline file caching and then the synching gets all messed up if the server goes offline.

    It is basically a nightmare so I want to turn it off.

    Found out that this is the same with Vista too. It just doesn't disable it unless you disable the services. What a pain.


    BUG #2 - Despite being Hidden on Desktop and Start Menu in Group Policies, the Network shows up in Windows Explorer.

    Again as a Network Administrator, I don't want my users to be able to Browse the Network. I could disable this with XP but not with Windows 7

    lforbes
    • Edited by lforbes Wednesday, May 20, 2009 10:02 PM
    Wednesday, May 20, 2009 8:22 PM
  • About Windows Explorer's command bar: the way the buttons and dropdown menus shift around depending on what's selected makes it difficult to use, especially when you're rapidly scrolling through several types of files. The New Folder button, for example, constantly shifts position. I think some of the contex-sensitive buttons should have standard widths, so that each element remains in a predictable spot on the command bar, regardless of what it's displaying.

    As an aside, I'd like a way to customize what shows up on the command bar as well, not to mention reordering its contents. That would go some ways towards reducing my above complaint.
    Wednesday, May 20, 2009 9:30 PM
  • I think hundreds of thousands of windows users haver suffered from this thing The problem: When you use an optical mouse on a wooden and polished table; the mouse pointer may sometimes randomly go to the upperright corner.

    Really?  I've never had this problem.  I think you should seriously consider buying a better mouse, or a mouse mat.

    Thack
    Wednesday, May 20, 2009 9:40 PM
  • 1) I want to repeat my impressions from another post: XP was a big step from the Win95/98/ME architecture, even superior in many aspects to the late NT/2000 builds, so it's no wonder that a roughly estimated share of 80-90 % of the business market stays with it until today. Vista had hardware requirements that were too high even for great companies that didn't feel the need to invest a bunch of money for changing all their IT equipment, train their employees, etc. - only to have a reportedly slower and less compatible system than their old one. Windows 7 seems to get over those doubts. I can only report my own experience, but its installation was a no brainer (I know there are others with huge problems) and nearly all my hardware and software worked fine on my dinosaur laptop (bought late 2004, OMG!) from the very first moment. I participated in earlier beta programs (like Windows ME, one bugfix build after another) and can truly say that this was an unexpected but good surprise. My only BSOD's so far were the result of some driver experiments.

    2) After all the praising, now to the only bad experience part - with a really stunning end. The only piece of my hard and software not working from the beginning was my TV tuner card (FlyDVB-T Duo Cardbus) and its manufacturer's viewing app (Lifeview DTV). Windows Update didn't find drivers (even with quite a bunch of them in the "Lifeview" section of the Update Catalog, marked for "Windows 7 client" - none of those is compatible). Manufacturer's drivers on its homepage - either old (like the card itself) or not compatible (Vista-version). After one try and another, I decided to stay with the oldest drivers of all (from early 2005, for XP of course). That worked, at least with the open-source app "Media Portal", Windows Media Center and other PCTV apps worked or not, depending from the moon cycles or I don't know what. I suspected the cause here and there but found no real solution. But! Today I changed my UAC settings for testing some program responses, noticed complaints from some apps about restricted network access, so I changed some network settings for the Windows Firewall, and finally changed the UAC settings back. Sometimes later - nothing more happened in the meantime - I wanted to look the TV news, clicked on "Media Portal" and ... received an error message that the assisting TV server app could not connect to SQL 2005 due to a network error. O_o. Hopelessly I tried Media Center, too - and, WTF, all TV channels were there, the tuner was finally recognized and I can receive all signals from Digital TV as it should be.
    Well, this may be considered a minor issue, and some may say that "legacy hardware" after such an incredible lifecycle like nearly five years looses all rights of being supported further. I don't think so, look at point 1) and consider one thing: When security settings are impeding some programs - even MS built-in apps - to work properly, then something goes wrong.

    Mob. AMD64 3000+, 1 G RAM, Mob. ATIRadeon9700, 20x DVDRW, C:XPSP3 (55G),D:WIN7 (25G),F:DATA (250G)
    Wednesday, May 20, 2009 9:48 PM
  • ""nBvM8oe3 "
    Please re-enable the ability to detach toolbars from the taskbar. In XP I would have several "quick bars" toolbars on the side of my screen for utilities, office applications, games, etc... I set those bars to "always on top" and could instantly launch my favorite programs without mucking up the taskbar. It is the only thing I'm really missing (*BADLY*) in Windows 7 RC. If not drag-n-drop, a menu option (similar to the taskbar) that allows you to dock the toolbar to the bottom/left/right/top of the screen. This was possible in Vista also, but the Aero glass didn't work on it. I could care less about aesthetics and just want the option to customize the location of toolbars back. Thanks!"

    I would like to second that a detachable toolbar is a great inconvenience with windows 7 as i used this for all my programs and games on a left and top toolbar and have no benefit of trying to start in total 30 or so programs from the startmenu or in docked toolbars.   Also making it look fancy really isnt a big deal its just the ease of use!

    This would be GREATLY appreciated.
    Wednesday, May 20, 2009 10:38 PM
  • There is a way to customize your folders, including replacing the picture/icon. Right click on the folder and choose properties, then go to the customize tab. Unfortunately, they left it to you to make or alter the pictures/icons yourself.
    Thursday, May 21, 2009 1:44 AM
    Answerer
  • Could you please add some options to the Notification Area Icons window? Currently, it has the option to "Show all icons and notifications on the taskbar", but there is no way to have it show all icons but hide all of the notifications. Well, not unless you create a rule for each and every program installed on your computer. I really like seeing what programs are starting up and running in the backgroud, but having all of those irritating balloons and messages pop up is maddening.

    Perhapse you could split "Show all icons and notifications on the taskbar" into two check boxes, one that is "Show all icons on the taskbar", and one that is "Show all notifications on the taskbar".
    Thursday, May 21, 2009 1:49 AM
  • 1. it is difficult to identify which is the running program, since they are all so shiny. consider having a "depressed" style (like xp and vista) or a border highlight style for runnning program. with the current design, it makes it very hard to switch between multiple windows.

    2. do not group similar programs together. say i open firefox, internet explorer, my computer, firefox, "D" drive, and firefox again, in that particular order, i would like my taskbar to be in that order as well, instead of grouping the firefoxes together. consider allowing the taskbar shuffling to shuffle in their particular windows. that is, when i drag one firefox, it's one firefox, not all 3 glued together.

    3. please return msn messenger, portable media devices etc to an icon in the notification area. when i'm using the "never combine" option, having 3 of such programs running will mean half of my taskbar area gone bcos they stay in the taskbar. personally, the "pin to taskbar" and "combine taskbar buttons" options are not useful. i believe there are others like me. consider allowing user to change settings to their preferences
    Thursday, May 21, 2009 1:54 AM
  • bring back MSSTYLES visual themes. i am sick of having to choose from old and very ugly themes, new and very ugly themes,and new and not so ugly themes that dont do my computer a whole lot of good when it comes to performance.

    seriously Microsoft. NOBODY uses Windows Classic theme and the only people who use Windows 7 Basic are the people that dont have up to date graphics cards. so if you are going to make an OS, at least make it so that it is visually appealing and allows one to advertise their personal taste

    did you forget that we are the customers? we said we wanted changes and while you did make them you compromised so much of the good.

    regards, nitrous_74
    Thursday, May 21, 2009 4:36 AM
  • Just a minor issue:
    Using 3 year old laptop with discontinued support. Windows 7 RC runs very fine so far (I'm impressed).
    But running on battery the meter flashes and tells me all the time "Consider replacing your battery".
    Since nothing is broken this is a bit annoying. I do need the battery meter but I don't like the flashing cross.
    Could you please just implement a function somewhere (some checkbox in the powermanagement) to supress this behaviour?

    Thanks a lot
    • Edited by floske Thursday, May 21, 2009 5:34 AM ambiguity
    Thursday, May 21, 2009 5:28 AM
  • Windows Explorer frequently "forgets" all my image and video thumbnails. Almost every day I'll open up Live Photo Gallery and it will spend time reacquiring the thumbs for my 900-odd videos. (As an aside, there should be some way to force WLPG to exclude videos.)

    Also, if you're attempting to overwrite an image or video whose thumbnail hasn't been generated yet, Explorer won't create a thumbnail to display on the confirmation window; rather it will just display the generic image file icon. If the filename isn't descriptive enough to determine the file's contents, you have no way of knowing if the two files are the same or not (file size is a hint, but that's not a sure bet). Your only resort is to open the directory of the thumbnail-less file, locate it, identify it, then return to the previous directory and finally decide whether or not to continue with the file copy.
    Thursday, May 21, 2009 12:30 PM
  • So far everything is running smoothly, my old Canon I860 was picked up and installed without me even having to download the drivers.  I game a lot and so far the games have run better on 7 than on XP on the same box.  I'm really a big fan of the way compatibility is working.  I'm not having the issues others seem to be having with sleep and hibernation modes.  Nor the run as admin issues.  I do have some odd apps that are working fine as well, such as the nostromo loadout manager, keepass, and mozyhome remote backup.

    My one problem is with open office, I put it on with a fresh install, opened up an existing document, and went to resize a table and it locks the OS.  I can duplicate it on demand.

    Aside from that two thumbs up so far.  My computer is newer, at least most of it is.  I even have a rosewill wireless card that was having packet loss issues that seem to be better with 7.  (You get what you pay for)
    Thursday, May 21, 2009 12:36 PM
  • Right click Shortcut > Properties > Hotkey.

    This has *NEVER* worked properly in ANY version of windows.
    it's extremely frustrating, to the stage where i have to run Litestep just to get some global hotkeys.

    ____, forget the keys being GLOBAL, the majority of the time i can click on the desktop where the hotkeyed shortcut exists, press the hotkey combination and NOTHING HAPPENS!
    How does hotkeys fail to register when the hotkey exists in the ACTIVE WINDOW ?!

    Please fix this in W7 for the love of god, at least get this one right. Litestep doesn't quite work properly with W7 and i'm of the impression it never will, since vista has been out for years and it still doesn't work properly on vista either.

    All i want is GLOBAL hotkeys and the option to use the windows key as a MAIN key in the combination, e.g Windows key + Z to open my FTP servers' directory.

    It's really frustrating to have to WIN+D every 5 seconds and click one of 100 odd shortcuts on the desktop JUST to navigate 5+ directories deep in windows.
    It has gotten to the stage that once you can type 80WPM or faster, it's actually faster to use windows entirely with the keyboard e.g;
    win + r > D:\ftpserv\en\Firefox\releases\x86\ takes me 2-3 seconds to perform.

    Having to WIN+D and click a shortcut on the desktop every time i want to go somewhere takes up to 10 if the shortcut has moved.

    Thursday, May 21, 2009 1:10 PM
  • I´m another user who has bugs while using multi-monitors.

    The bug is that if I turn on my laptop with my external monitor plugged in, the boxes in the title bar that performs minimize, maximize/restore and close of every window is missing,  but their functionality still work, although I have to guess where they are located. If I launch Macromedia Fireworks 8 which forces Windows to switch to Basic color scheme the problem is solved, even if I go back to normal color scheme. This bug doesn´t happens if I don´t use my external monitor.

    My setup:
    Dell Inspiron 1525 Laptop (Core2 Duo T5750 @ 2Ghz, 4Gb RAM, 250Gb HD, Intel 965G Graphics/system chipset)
    Samsung SyncMaster 226BW 22" LCD Monitor
    Samsung ML-1610 Laser Printer

     
    Thursday, May 21, 2009 1:34 PM
  • Character map: add a search field that filters characters by description. Yes.
    Thursday, May 21, 2009 1:41 PM
  • Browsing through folders and files is annoying. When expanding a directory in Computer, the directory is always repositioned in the left pane, it is frustrating to always have to find where it went on the display.
    Same with icon on the taskbar.
    Thursday, May 21, 2009 3:58 PM
  • <Continuation of long thread Have Comments about Windows 7 RC? (Part 2)>

    To all forum users:

    Please use this thread to note any comments that you have about Windows 7 Release Candidate (RC). Do not use this thread for any specific question or issue that you are having - just for comments or feedback. For questions/issues that require an answer, create a new thread.

    Thanks

    -Tony Mann
    Windows Client IT Pro Audience Manager for Web Forums, Windows Client Forum Owner
    Its incredibly annoying that each time that the network workgroup name is changed, is necessary to reboot the computer. I hoped for Win7 for it to be fixed. Also, there is no point to force the user to belong to an unique workgroup. It causes a lot of problems.
    Thursday, May 21, 2009 3:58 PM
  • trying to use search for files with specific extension as *.inf returns everything but that.
    Why making it more complicated that it is?
    Thursday, May 21, 2009 4:00 PM
  • i had the some problem. type in "*.inf" (with quotes), and it works.
    Mob. AMD64 3000+, 1 G RAM, Mob. ATIRadeon9700, 20x DVDRW, C:XPSP3 (55G),D:WIN7 (25G),F:DATA (250G)
    Thursday, May 21, 2009 4:07 PM
  • <Continuation of long thread Have Comments about Windows 7 RC?  (Part 2) >

    To all forum users:

    Please use this thread to note any comments that you have about Windows 7 Release Candidate (RC). Do not use this thread for any specific question or issue that you are having - just for comments or feedback. For questions/issues that require an answer, create a new thread.

    Thanks

    -Tony Mann
    Windows Client IT Pro Audience Manager for Web Forums, Windows Client Forum Owner

    The wireless network state icon never shows the intensity of the wireless signal (On a Toshiba Qosmio F45-AV410 laptop model)
    Thursday, May 21, 2009 4:22 PM
  • I´m another user who has bugs while using multi-monitors.

    The bug is that if I turn on my laptop with my external monitor plugged in, the boxes in the title bar that performs minimize, maximize/restore and close of every window is missing,  but their functionality still work, although I have to guess where they are located. If I launch Macromedia Fireworks 8 which forces Windows to switch to Basic color scheme the problem is solved, even if I go back to normal color scheme. This bug doesn´t happens if I don´t use my external monitor.

    My setup:
    Dell Inspiron 1525 Laptop (Core2 Duo T5750 @ 2Ghz, 4Gb RAM, 250Gb HD, Intel 965G Graphics/system chipset)
    Samsung SyncMaster 226BW 22" LCD Monitor
    Samsung ML-1610 Laser Printer

     

    This is a driver issue. When laptop builders integrate video chips (especially integrated video) into their systems, there are multiple paths that are unique to the application. Without the customized drivers, the chipset has a difficult time sending the right signals to the right paths. This is why most manufacturers tell users to return to the vendors for laptop drivers.

    I have seen this many times and had to perform the same steps on my bosses E6400 yesterday.

    I would recommend going back to Dell and installing the Vista drivers.

    http://support.dell.com/support/topics/global.aspx/support/downloads/en/downloads_splash?c=us&l=en&s=gen&~mode=popup&file=245580

    Thursday, May 21, 2009 4:36 PM
  • Please add an option for a Classic Start Menu. Thanks.
    Thursday, May 21, 2009 5:31 PM
  • Please add an option to remove 'favorites' and 'libraries' from 'My Computer' navigation pane.
    Thursday, May 21, 2009 5:32 PM
  • Hi

    In Vista if I right click on my external HDD or a usb key drive letter or any other external storage or device (like camera) one of the options in menu is safely remove the device. It is not in Win 7 any more and I again have to go all the way to notification bar to click on the usb icon and eject device. It is a waste of time can we have that option back in the menu?
    On the other note if you click that USB icon atleast now you can see which device is which great!!

    Thursday, May 21, 2009 5:36 PM
  • "Safely Remove" was moved into the "Eject" command on build 7100.
    Thursday, May 21, 2009 5:37 PM
  • I have build 7100. I have eject on DVD-rom or virtual blu-ray disc but not on my external HDD or SD card?
    Thursday, May 21, 2009 5:41 PM
  • I do not like category view in CP and when I change to Large Icons it is almost perfect except that it is single click which I find annoying.
    Can we have standard win2k/XP control panel look?

    Thursday, May 21, 2009 5:41 PM
  • A quick comment to Microsoft...

    Please stop taking to heart those "Hi, I'm a Mac" "And I'm a PC" commercials so much!  You DON'T want to make Windows into OSX!  The grass is NOT greener on the other side!

    In other words, please stop "dumbing down" the system!

    If you want the system to be more usable, that's a great idea.  Just keep in mind there are people who need to do real work with it, and that SOME parts of it might just still have to remain a bit "geeky" for that to be possible!

    For example, I can no longer deterministically see the seconds or milliseconds value of a file modification date no matter what I try in Explorer.  Is "3 minutes ago" in the file Properties dialog REALLY easier to use than "5/18/2009 9:19:45"?  Are you saying the majority of your customers are too stupid to know that 9:22 is 3 minutes later?  And what would be the REAL problem with "5/18/2009 9:19:45.1234"?  Leave the hours:minutes in the main displays for simplicity, but don't remove the ability to see the actual details from the Details view!!!!

    And is it really easier to use a system with a network icon that doesn't show when there's network activity?

    For God's sake at least leave in options where we can turn on the good stuff and back off the "duh"!

    If you keep adding more "Duh" and removing "To Work" options, you will lose customers. 

    Even all the kids who use Windows for entertainment are going to grow up and get jobs where they need to use Windows for real work.

    Clearly your Marketing people are driving many of these boneheaded UI changes...  

    Suggestion for Microsoft Project Engineering Leaders:
       Talk to your senior software developers - i.e., people trying to use Windows to get real work done.  Assuming they aren't using XP or 3rd party apps to get their work done, actually ASK them about each UI change and LISTEN to what they have to say.  And please push back against the Marketing folks when the changes don't make sense.

    Thank you.

    -Noel


    Couldnt agree more! There are many things in vista and vista SE(Windows 7) that take more work to get done or cant even do without 3rd party apps.
    Even the system clock cant be shown and leave up! What an idea!? Win7 will NOT make me more money it will cost me already several hundred dollars to purchase 3rd party apps to do what could be done even in XP and win2k!

    Matt
    Thursday, May 21, 2009 6:01 PM
  • <Continuation of long thread Have Comments about Windows 7 RC?  (Part 2) >

    To all forum users:

    Please use this thread to note any comments that you have about Windows 7 Release Candidate (RC). Do not use this thread for any specific question or issue that you are having - just for comments or feedback. For questions/issues that require an answer, create a new thread.

    Thanks

    -Tony Mann
    Windows Client IT Pro Audience Manager for Web Forums, Windows Client Forum Owner
    Virtualization in a Toshiba Qosmio F45-AV410 does not works.

    I installed Virtual PC 2007 on that machine, under vista 32 bit, and works perfectly, but under windows 7 64 bit a message error says "there is no hardware-assisted virtualization support in the system". If I reboot, and start Vista, it does works correctly.

    Al devices where recognized, except a "mass sotrage controller", and a "PCI memory controler". I think that the mass stroage is an USB flash memory integrated in the mother, and the PCI memory should be a flash card drive.

    the notebook contains a core 2 Duo T5450 with Motherboard Intel Santa Rosa CRB, chipset GM965.
    Thursday, May 21, 2009 6:10 PM
  • Windows Explorer frequently "forgets" all my image and video thumbnails. Almost every day I'll open up Live Photo Gallery and it will spend time reacquiring the thumbs for my 900-odd videos. (As an aside, there should be some way to force WLPG to exclude videos.)
    Hi djsb,

    If you run Disc-Cleanup then you might unselect "thumbnails" in the list of files to cleanup.

    I hope this helps.

    Regards
    Picsoe
    Thursday, May 21, 2009 6:20 PM
  • Totally agree, I know have several programs to do things that I used to be able to do using windows. Personally I think explorer is the worst thing I've ever seen! It's almost as though they took many steps back with Vista SE(win7)
    Thursday, May 21, 2009 6:26 PM
  • I have been evaluating Win7 RC on an older AthlonXP/ Nividia 6200/1 GB Ram system which can now triple boot into windows 7, Xp home or Ubuntu Linux. The install was relatively straightforward and fast and I was very happy that I could run the latest OS on modest hardware.
    A few expected glitches-my old creative labs SB live card won't work, so I had to switch back to built in AC97 audio. I was expecting that older hardware like sound cards would have trouble, and they are easy to replace. I also have an old Xerox Workcentre laser copier/printer that no longer works because there are no Vista drivers. Again, people can expect to replace old printers which are inexpensive.

    But, the thing that will keep me from buying Windows 7 now is the problem that I have lost network functionality that I once had under XP, namely the ability to access my XP computer's files and shared USB printer. Apparently, you can't add XP computers to your Homegroup unless they are running windows 7.
    Is this a "feature" to force users to upgrade all PCs at once to windows 7?
    I did change what settings I could for maximum compatibility such as making sure all PCs were in my MSHOME workgroup. It is not that I can't access all files on them; Windows 7 does allow me to play music and photos from them, so the network can see the other PCs. But, Windows 7 cannot "see" the shared USB printer on the XP machine on the network, and I have tried various workarounds I have seen in the forums. XP machines can see the windows 7 shared folder and its printer. It is just not user friendly or plug and play and is beyond what a consumer should be required to do.

    I am simply not prepared to upgrade to windows 7 on all my PCs yet. You have to make it easy for people to add the new machines running windows 7 to existing networks running XP. If security is the main concern, add a wizard which can burn a network install to CD or USB flash drive, that you can bring around to each PC to physically install a security password.

    Now, if there was a way to build a Windows 7 RC "Live DVD"  (ala Linux) that could be tried out on my XP machines without changing my existing machines, and it could prove the superiority of the new OS running on existing hardware, I would put the live DVD in all the machines and test out the network.
    (The Linux Live CDs are remarkable tools which I have used to save XP machines which can't boot). 

    Then, marketing gurus, sell us a Windows 7 retail XP upgrade license for 3 machines, (such as what is used for the Office student and teacher edition). I will eventually buy new PCs with the latest Windows 7, but I do subscribe to the "if it isn't broken, don't fix it" idea when it comes to upgrades.
    Thursday, May 21, 2009 6:34 PM
  • Totally agree, I know have several programs to do things that I used to be able to do using windows. Personally I think explorer is the worst thing I've ever seen! It's almost as though they took many steps back with Vista SE(win7)

    Each windows version includes a less and less useful explorer. Go back to Norton Commander, and see all the things it did in DOS age, which are missing today.

    I ever liked the capability of opening two windows, with a tree for each one. last time i see it in windows, was in 3.1 (or 95?). (well, in Windows in 7 is possible to drag one winodw to left, and other to the right).

    I are planning in my own pen drive set of applications to replace all the missing windows features with third party software, because I no more can count with all the necessary tools in windows each time I need to fix someting on a machine.

    I abandoned MS mail software with vista, since it included a buggy application, incompatible with Outlook Express; and no, I will not install a single one Windows live anything. I no more trust Microsoft to guarantee version compatibility. It's over.

    Edit: And I will NOT reboot in "safe mode" to get administrator rights, and do all the pet jumps to edit super protected files. I will boot from a Linux Live CD, and do anything I want.
    Thursday, May 21, 2009 6:40 PM
  • Totally agree, I know have several programs to do things that I used to be able to do using windows. Personally I think explorer is the worst thing I've ever seen! It's almost as though they took many steps back with Vista SE(win7)

    Each windows version includes a less and less useful explorer. Go back to Norton Commander, and see all the things it did in DOS age, which are missing today.

    --Agree on that, a windows commander style explorer option would be great--

    I ever liked the capability of opening two windows, with a tree for each one. last time i see it in windows, was in 3.1 (or 95?). (well, in Windows in 7 is possible to drag one winodw to left, and other to the right).

    --??--

    I are planning in my own pen drive set of applications to replace all the missing windows features with third party software, because I no more can count with all the necessary tools in windows each time I need to fix someting on a machine.

    --Well for any of those tools to be even concidered to be added you need to mention what you want. Saying I need to have 3rd party apps to fix stuff does not help--

    I abandoned MS mail software with vista, since it included a buggy application, incompatible with Outlook Express; and no, I will not install a single one Windows live anything. I no more trust Microsoft to guarantee version compatibility. It's over.

    --Buggy in what way I never had problems in vista. Was using outlook express, moved to vista version (ms mail) and no problems. Any how office outlook rules for me. Excuse my ignorance but what have programs from windows live got to do with version compatibility?? If they are ment to run on vista they will not work on xp no surprise there. I was pissed off that windows movie maker was removed well now it is part of windows live but no compatibility problems at all--

    Edit: And I will NOT reboot in "safe mode" to get administrator rights, and do all the pet jumps to edit super protected files. I will boot from a Linux Live CD, and do anything I want.

    --I have admin rights now and I mean full admin rights I have enabled administrator user, gave it a proper password and use it as my login. No problems there at all. Maybe you should learn how to use Win 7?--

    Thursday, May 21, 2009 7:01 PM
  • Another thing I am asking to consider.

    The new taskbar is great, everything about it is great. Well almost, one thing is a problem.
    When I use internet explorer it is all fine but if I open more than one tap it starts to be a problem. I mean if I want to get IE back by clicking on an icon I have to select which tab. Just get it back to full screen to last used tab by clicking on IE icon and all will be fine. The pages preview that shows when you hover over IE icon is good but if I decide to bring IE up without selecting any specific tab I cannot. Also today I had 15 tabs open (looking for a job). I had to minimize IE to find items on desktop and I had no way to go back to tab I was using. I had to click on A tab and look for one I used. Later on I started using ALT+TAB to go back to IE which there is showed as one application.

     

    To give you an example. In vista open 20 folders and try find one specific one, especially if name of each folder is similar.

    Thursday, May 21, 2009 7:12 PM
  • WMP12, whishlist:
    - native support of ID3V2 tags
    - support for ReplayGain values in ID3V2 tags
    - a choice of writing ASF "tags" or ID3V2 tags, e.g. when WMP calculates "volume normalization"

    Thanks

    Thursday, May 21, 2009 7:32 PM
  • Could something be done about the blacking out of the monitor whenever a popup box, "Do you want XXXXXX to be able to change computer settings" etc. opens up, the blacked out screen can last for 2-3 seconds and is very disconcerting, I keep thinking that the computer has crashed or something.

    It's not even as though I'm running it on a particulary slow pc, it gets a performance rating of 5.5

    I don't like the way Windows update works with 7.  If I've downloaded and installed the updates I'd rather not see them still listed the next time that I check for updates, though I do like the action centre as it found the chipset driver from the internet  that I'd not got round to installing, even if it did take a couple of attempts to get it to install correctly.

    All in all, I like it though as with most things it will take some getting used to, with the way that some things are layed out.  Just as it was with getting used to XP after using Win 98 though in time I'm as sure I'd get to like this just as much.

    Any idea's on UK pricing yet?
    Thursday, May 21, 2009 7:36 PM
  • CTRL+Click to go back to the last active instance of a program. An option to turn off IE tabs showing as individual windows in the taskbar is available as well.
    Thursday, May 21, 2009 7:39 PM
  • Each windows version includes a less and less useful explorer. Go back to Norton Commander, and see all the things it did in DOS age, which are missing today.

    --Agree on that, a windows commander style explorer option would be great--

    -- Agreed too. +1 Windows Explorer REALLY needs a complete overhaul.

    I ever liked the capability of opening two windows, with a tree for each one. last time i see it in windows, was in 3.1 (or 95?). (well, in Windows in 7 is possible to drag one winodw to left, and other to the right).

    --??--

    -- I didn´t understood well this too. I could select 2 Windows Explorer windows using CTRL and right click to set "Side by side" Is it?

    I are planning in my own pen drive set of applications to replace all the missing windows features with third party software, because I no more can count with all the necessary tools in windows each time I need to fix someting on a machine.

    --Well for any of those tools to be even concidered to be added you need to mention what you want. Saying I need to have 3rd party apps to fix stuff does not help--

    -- I can do a list, but for me, the most needed for now are:
    1) Need a app to be able to choose the pictures I want and the ones I don´t want to import when I plug a digital camera.
    2) Need a app to see fast the free space in the partition I´m working and the sum of file sizes of the folder I´m working, once the new Windows explorer statusbar is useless (anyone have such a program? I really need it!)
    3) App to listen to web radio in a EASY way. WMP is becoming worse to do this every new version. WMP10 did it perfectly, 11 is a little harder, in the new 12, I could not find a way to browse webradios. Am I missing something?


    I abandoned MS mail software with vista, since it included a buggy application, incompatible with Outlook Express; and no, I will not install a single one Windows live anything. I no more trust Microsoft to guarantee version compatibility. It's over.

    --Buggy in what way I never had problems in vista. Was using outlook express, moved to vista version (ms mail) and no problems. Any how office outlook rules for me. Excuse my ignorance but what have programs from windows live got to do with version compatibility?? If they are ment to run on vista they will not work on xp no surprise there. I was pissed off that windows movie maker was removed well now it is part of windows live but no compatibility problems at all--

    - I can´t say anything about it, because I never use a mail program. I´m so used to use webmail, and it do all I need. In fact, Im glad they removed Windows Mail from 7, one less thing to bloat it.

    Edit: And I will NOT reboot in "safe mode" to get administrator rights, and do all the pet jumps to edit super protected files. I will boot from a Linux Live CD, and do anything I want.

    --I have admin rights now and I mean full admin rights I have enabled administrator user, gave it a proper password and use it as my login. No problems there at all. Maybe you should learn how to use Win 7?--

    - Well, Im a windows user since the 3.1 version. And a computer tech since Win95. Im far beyound the regular user, and I KNOW what to do in a windows box. My account says ADMINISTRATOR, and, guess what? I WANT to be a administrator. I can change my account to a "regular" one if I want, but, no, I want to be, and I currently AM a admin.

    Now, the curious history. Yesterday I had a problem with the mp3 codec in windows. I wanted to do a test (like I already did many times in windows xp) and wanted to rename l3codeca.acm to l3codeca.bak (in the SYSTEM32 folder), so I can put a new file there and do my tests.
    BUT, the system don´t let me do that! It says something like: You need a Trusted Installer to change this file" ... well... I don´t have a "trusted installer" because I´m manually doing a test. I AM the admin, and so far, I TRUST myself. WHY I don´t have a prompt or a UAC, wharever, ASKING: Do you want to do? And I can anwser YES. But, no, as I already said once, windows 7 have a really bad habit to say NOT ALLOWED in your face, despite the fact it´s "talking" to an administrator.


    Thursday, May 21, 2009 7:46 PM
  • CTRL+Click to go back to the last active instance of a program. An option to turn off IE tabs showing as individual windows in the taskbar is available as well.

    I knew about the CTRL+Click, but I´m another one that wanted to be able to just click and have the last active windows to get focus. No need to have the same behaviour (show thumbnails) with 2 actions, the click AND mouse hovering. Hover is enough. If I click, just give me the last window, much better than having to use a mouse AND keyboard to do a task that used to be easier.
    Thursday, May 21, 2009 7:51 PM
  • I am using RC x64 at home and RC x86 at work, and on both systems, which I connect to a Windows 2003 Server in windowed mode (usually 1024x768, where my display is set to 1920x1200) the window is placed in the upper left corner. If I move the window, it resizes itself to about 60%. Normally I would just maximize the window to get it to its full size again, but then if I move it again, it resizes itself again. I have to resize the window manually by pulling out the edges of the window to get it to stick. This is an annoyance that should be fixed.

    I will note however, this does not occur when connecting via RDP to a Windows 2008 Server, or a Windows XP Pro box.
    Thursday, May 21, 2009 8:15 PM
  • Could something be done about the blacking out of the monitor whenever a popup box, "Do you want XXXXXX to be able to change computer settings" etc. opens up, the blacked out screen can last for 2-3 seconds and is very disconcerting, I keep thinking that the computer has crashed or something.


    Control panel > User accounts > Change user account control settings
    or
    Start > type "uac" and click "Change user account control settings"

    Set the slider to step 2: Notify me only when programs try to make changes to my computer (do not dim my desktop )

    Cheers!

    Thursday, May 21, 2009 8:15 PM
  • CTRL+Click to go back to the last active instance of a program. An option to turn off IE tabs showing as individual windows in the taskbar is available as well.

    How mate??
    Thursday, May 21, 2009 8:20 PM
  • --I have admin rights now and I mean full admin rights I have enabled administrator user, gave it a proper password and use it as my login. No problems there at all. Maybe you should learn how to use Win 7?--

    - Well, Im a windows user since the 3.1 version. And a computer tech since Win95. Im far beyound the regular user, and I KNOW what to do in a windows box. My account says ADMINISTRATOR, and, guess what? I WANT to be a administrator. I can change my account to a "regular" one if I want, but, no, I want to be, and I currently AM a admin.

    Now, the curious history. Yesterday I had a problem with the mp3 codec in windows. I wanted to do a test (like I already did many times in windows xp) and wanted to rename l3codeca.acm to l3codeca.bak (in the SYSTEM32 folder), so I can put a new file there and do my tests.
    BUT, the system don´t let me do that! It says something like: You need a Trusted Installer to change this file" ... well... I don´t have a "trusted installer" because I´m manually doing a test. I AM the admin, and so far, I TRUST myself. WHY I don´t have a prompt or a UAC, wharever, ASKING: Do you want to do? And I can anwser YES. But, no, as I already said once, windows 7 have a really bad habit to say NOT ALLOWED in your face, despite the fact it´s "talking" to an administrator.



    Tested it, no problem to change the name of file you mentioned. See photos.

    http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii70/Ruscik/Capture1.jpg?t=1242937959

    http://s261.photobucket.com/albums/ii70/Ruscik/?action=view&current=Capture2.jpg

    http://s261.photobucket.com/albums/ii70/Ruscik/?action=view&current=Capture3.jpg

    I wonder if snipping tool was added for testing?! :D
    • Edited by Ruscik12 Thursday, May 21, 2009 8:38 PM
    Thursday, May 21, 2009 8:26 PM

  • --I have admin rights now and I mean full admin rights I have enabled administrator user, gave it a proper password and use it as my login. No problems there at all. Maybe you should learn how to use Win 7?--

    - Well, Im a windows user since the 3.1 version. And a computer tech since Win95. Im far beyound the regular user, and I KNOW what to do in a windows box. My account says ADMINISTRATOR, and, guess what? I WANT to be a administrator. I can change my account to a "regular" one if I want, but, no, I want to be, and I currently AM a admin.

    Now, the curious history. Yesterday I had a problem with the mp3 codec in windows. I wanted to do a test (like I already did many times in windows xp) and wanted to rename l3codeca.acm to l3codeca.bak (in the SYSTEM32 folder), so I can put a new file there and do my tests.
    BUT, the system don´t let me do that! It says something like: You need a Trusted Installer to change this file" ... well... I don´t have a "trusted installer" because I´m manually doing a test. I AM the admin, and so far, I TRUST myself. WHY I don´t have a prompt or a UAC, wharever, ASKING: Do you want to do? And I can anwser YES. But, no, as I already said once, windows 7 have a really bad habit to say NOT ALLOWED in your face, despite the fact it´s "talking" to an administrator.



    Just tested it with the same file you mentiond. No problem in changing it's name.
    Thursday, May 21, 2009 8:35 PM
  • I'm seeing a weird bug where the bottom 3rd of my start menu is occasionally gone.  the search box, log off button, and everything up to the Run... menu item are gone.  if I unpin or pin something to the start menu and click start a few times, it's back to normal.
    Thursday, May 21, 2009 9:13 PM
  • I'm on dial-up (yeah, I know... not my fault - I live in the boonies) and my nice little docked modem icon no longer shows the connection speed and I cannot find any way to determine it.
    Built my own i7-920, Asus P6T, 6GB, 1TB Caviar Black, 4870 with 1GB.
    Thursday, May 21, 2009 10:04 PM
  • I'm seeing a weird bug where the bottom 3rd of my start menu is occasionally gone.  the search box, log off button, and everything up to the Run... menu item are gone.  if I unpin or pin something to the start menu and click start a few times, it's back to normal.

    Yes, this is an annoying (if minor) little bug - I have encountered it a couple times. 

    Stephen
    Thursday, May 21, 2009 10:16 PM
  • I have been using Windows 7 for a couple of weeks now. And so far I am enjoying the experience. I am a desktop, icon and shell junkie so I am constantly customizing my interface to provide me with a functional and visually pleasing environment.

    1. After a program is pinned to the taskbar it is no longer possible to change the icon. I would like to see a "properties" option available when right clicking so that I can change the icon to one of my choosing.
    2. It is not possible to use .png images as icons. These are readily available at sites such as wincustomize, etc. so it would be advantageous to be able to take advantage of these to create a unique and customized desktop experience. Alternatively I can use a program to change it to an .ico file, but that is an extra step that could easily be avoided.
    3. There seems to be too much space between the icons. It could be tightened up more or at least we should have the option to choose how much space between the icons there should be in the taskbar properties menu.
    4. Speaking of icons, would it be possible to create a "super icons" folder where ALL icons in the system (including icons from installed apps) would appear? The icons included with Windows are weak at best (sorry!) and need to be updated to something more visually appealing.

    Thursday, May 21, 2009 10:16 PM
  • I am using RC x64 at home and RC x86 at work, and on both systems, which I connect to a Windows 2003 Server in windowed mode (usually 1024x768, where my display is set to 1920x1200) the window is placed in the upper left corner. If I move the window, it resizes itself to about 60%. Normally I would just maximize the window to get it to its full size again, but then if I move it again, it resizes itself again. I have to resize the window manually by pulling out the edges of the window to get it to stick. This is an annoyance that should be fixed.

    I will note however, this does not occur when connecting via RDP to a Windows 2008 Server, or a Windows XP Pro box.

    Additional information... I've found that this problem is only occuring on my saved RDP links. I have a bunch for each server I connect to. They are all set to 1024x768, and when I connect using the saved link the window is not full size and I have to manually resize it to get it to stick.

    But if I connect using teh Remote Desktop Connection program, type in the server name and select my display config to 1024x768... it opens the connection with the window full size, and I can move it without it resizing itself too small.

    Thursday, May 21, 2009 10:21 PM

  • >I ever liked the capability of opening two windows, with a tree for each one. Last time I see it in windows, was in 3.1 (or 95?). (well, in Windows in 7 is possible to drag one window to left, and other to the right).
    >
    >--??--
    >-- I didn´t understood well this too. I could select 2 Windows Explorer windows using CTRL and right click to set "Side by side" Is it?

    I mean, In XP and vista was necessary to open 2 windows, then minimize all except those 2 windows, and tile them vertically. Is much easier on Win7 to open 2 windows, and drag each one to a side (they are automatically set to half screen). Thumbs up for it.

    >I are planning in my own pen drive set of applications to replace all the missing windows features with third party software, because I no more can count with all the necessary tools in windows each time I need to fix someting on a machine.
    >
    >--Well for any of those tools to be even concidered to be added you need to mention what you want. Saying I need to have 3rd party apps to fix stuff does not help--

    the list is laaaaargue.

    Some tools:

    -A file manager. Windows explorer is too broken. Write an IP on it, and it starts IE /Firefox. SSL anyone?

    -Tool for making bootable pen drive.

    -Tool for fixing boot. Vista tool needs a gui, is too poor, and cannot be trusted. Linux GRUB does a far better job. Is really important when a virus (or an antivirus) write on the boot sector, or destroy some windows startup file.

    -Live CD. When something doesn’t works, you start Linux, and see immediately if it is a hardware malfunctioning, or windows software problem. Installation Windows CD, and console are too poor.

    -Nero or Alcohol 120%. ¿how do you create an ISO with vista/Win7? Don’t let me start. Win7 can burn an ISO, but came on. It is nothing. If you need to buy software to do basic use for your hardware, why you payed for Windows?

    -Gparted/Partition Magic. Vista resizing partitions was nice idea, but almost never works.

    -A real defrag tool. Vista/Win7 do NOT let you free space at the end of the disk, to be able to reduce the partition size. And you can’t have a slight idea on what files they defrag.

    -Did you ever tried to read scandisk results?. Why is necessary to go to administrative tools, and see logs?

    -RAMDisk. Do not question it.

    -The WORST, WORST, WORST, WORST, WORST, WORST, WORST, WORST, WORST, WORST, WORST, WORST, idea MS ever had, was the awful, hyper dangerous Autorun.inf file. IT IS AN OPEN DOOR, WITH INVITATION AND RED CARPET FOR VIRUS. Virus spread like crazy on pen drives, making use of the autorun... On XP, it ever did, on any computer, installed tweakUI, and disabled Autorun for any drive. I found up to 10 virus on some pen drives, making use of the same Autorun.inf file. You can’t control it. People carry his own notebook to the company, or use it for a conference. Then people want to share some files, and anybody gets a free bunch of virus. It is pure Microsoft guilt and shame, so, I ever carry a copy of Tweak UI.

    -CPU-Z. Do not ask why. Also GPU-Z.

    -Partimage… and almost anything on SytemRescue LiveCD . You buy 10 computers, install one, with any driver, programs, printers, anything, make a partition image, and copy it on any other disk.

    -Virtual drive emulator. Capable of loading ISO files.

    -ISO file editor.

    -nLite for Win7. Each time I need to install XP on a computer without 3 ½ drive, I need to burn a new CD. Why MS thinks that Win7 will support ANY future device on installation? Still did not learn from experience?

    -Winrar or 7-zip. They such important and basic tools, that are the first software I ever install on a new machine. Win7 don’t even know what a RAR file is.

    -PDF reader. Almost any software include a version of Acrobat reader.

    -Common file formats reader. Even Microsoft offers free office readers, so why they are not included in Win7?

    -This is a big one: most notebooks do NOT include a windows installation CD. They include a windows recovery tool, or just an image on hard disk. Lots of times, the user try to “restore” the system, and it gets formatted. They cry and despair for his lost data. There are lots of tools for formatted partition recovery, none included with windows. A shame.

    -A virtual printer, to share any printer. I cannot install ,on Windows 7 64b, a shared printer running on 32 bit, because there are no drivers. Up to vista, it downloads the driver from the host machine. ¿What if a virus writes itself on the printer driver? A virtual printer is absolutely needed. Windows include nothing.

    Bosses do not want to update an OS, if they breaks an old printer compatibility. That old printer costed 1000$, and even if a new, better one cost 300$, bosses are not rational. They don’t want to waste 1000$ printers, so NO “Windows 7”.

    >-- I can do a list, but for me, the most needed for now are:
    >1) Need a app to be able to choose the pictures I want and the ones I don´t want to import when I plug a digital camera.

    That is a good one.


    >2) Need a app to see fast the free space in the partition I´m working and the sum of file sizes of the folder I´m working, once the new Windows explorer statusbar is useless (anyone have such a program? I really need it!)

    +1 to it.

    Also, I want to right click a folder, and search on it and his subdirectories. I had it on XP, and want it.


    >3) App to listen to web radio in a EASY way. WMP is becoming worse to do this every new version. WMP10 did it perfectly, 11 is a little harder, in the new 12, I could not find a way to browse webradios. Am I missing something?

    I just abandoned WMP years ago. There is much better software.

    >I abandoned MS mail software with vista, since it included a buggy application, incompatible with Outlook Express; and no, I will not install a single one Windows live anything. I no more trust Microsoft to guarantee version compatibility. It's over.
    >
    >--Buggy in what way I never had problems in vista.

    It was crammed with bugs. I don’t remember clearly, but one of the more annoying was to create or import a folder, then deleting it, and trying to repeat the process. Windows mail did awful things like do not delete the folder a second time. Not even a message warning that the folder cannot be deleted, and the explanation of the cause. It simply did nothing.

    Since all the rest of the os was such a (insert bad words here, be creative). I downgraded back to XP. But MS offered not a single tool to convert Windows mail messages and folders back to Outlook Express.

    So going back was a inferno…. And I downgraded dozens and dozens of vista back to XP. The process was so painful, (and I lost any trust I had on MS) that I told all the people possible to do not use MS mail software never again. I converted people even to webmail (nothing from MS, of course), or Thunderbird. That software has his problems, but they are more probable to keep compatibility, and not to ruin my life on an upgrade.

    I just was happy to hear that MS does no more include mail software on Windows 7. I don’t want it even for free, and I don’t want to support it. Never more.

    >Was using outlook express, moved to vista version (ms mail) and no problems. Any how office outlook rules for me. Excuse my ignorance but what have programs from windows live got to do with version compatibility?? If they are ment to run on vista they will not work on xp no surprise there. I was pissed off that windows movie maker was removed well now it is part of windows live but no compatibility problems at all--

    Backward compatibility is important. No backward compatibility -> no customer. Anyway, I don’t care if MS promises future backward compatibility. I don’t trust anymore. It can’t be fixed.

    >- I can´t say anything about it, because I never use a mail program. I´m so used to use webmail, and it do all I need. In fact, Im glad they removed Windows Mail from 7, one less thing to bloat it.

    Totally agree.

    >Edit: And I will NOT reboot in "safe mode" to get administrator rights, and do all the pet jumps to edit super protected files. I will boot from a Linux Live CD, and do anything I want.
    >
    >--I have admin rights now and I mean full admin rights I have enabled administrator user, gave it a proper password and use it as my login. No problems there at all. Maybe you should learn how to use Win 7?--
    weeks ago, a virus infected a dude computer at work. I formatted his Windows partition, buit not his data partition.

    Still on his data partition, remained a folder with virus executable. The folder had strange permissions, and it was no way to delete it. I got full Administrator permissions to delete it, but still the new installed windows denied me the right to delete it.

    Lots of folders had those permissions, and it caused lots of trouble. The user did not wanted me to format his data, because he needed to work. The only solution was a Linux Live CD. As a root, I did anything I wanted. At my risk. Is MY right.

    >- Well, Im a windows user since the 3.1 version. And a computer tech since Win95. Im far

    >"talking" to an administrator.

    Lucky you :)   –I envy your life-

    Thursday, May 21, 2009 10:27 PM
  • After a program is pinned to the taskbar it is no longer possible to change the icon. I would like to see a "properties" option available when right clicking so that I can change the icon to one of my choosing.
    Right-click on the big icon, right-click on program's name again, click properties, knock yourself out :D

    As for feature to set .pngs as icons, there is one thing -- icons are optimized for their respective sizes -- 16x16, 32x32, 128x128 etc. If you use png's you'd must use one image for all sizes, since pngs can't hold multiple images in one file. So it'd be convenient , but not good -- if you really want to use your pngs, google for "png to ico converter" :)

    Regards, Kristaps.
    Thursday, May 21, 2009 10:44 PM
  • The ability to change the icon displayed for a specific file type would be nice. The advanced file types modification ability is now gone since Vista it appears. Somehow my .doc file association got to the small MS Word icon rather than the larger icon with paper and a "W" Word icon. Really visually confusing when your used to one specific icon for all your documents.
    Thursday, May 21, 2009 10:50 PM
  • After a program is pinned to the taskbar it is no longer possible to change the icon. I would like to see a "properties" option available when right clicking so that I can change the icon to one of my choosing.
    Right-click on the big icon, right-click on program's name again, click properties, knock yourself out :D

    As for feature to set .pngs as icons, there is one thing -- icons are optimized for their respective sizes -- 16x16, 32x32, 128x128 etc. If you use png's you'd must use one image for all sizes, since pngs can't hold multiple images in one file. So it'd be convenient , but not good -- if you really want to use your pngs, google for "png to ico converter" :)

    Regards, Kristaps.
    Common people will not want to care about file formats. They just want to use an image. Is Windows duty to convert *.* to .ICO
    Thursday, May 21, 2009 10:54 PM
    1. Speaking of icons, would it be possible to create a "super icons" folder where ALL icons in the system (including icons from installed apps) would appear? The icons included with Windows are weak at best (sorry!) and need to be updated to something more visually appealing.
    You mean like the Fonts folder? Yes please.
    Thursday, May 21, 2009 11:05 PM
  • W7 RC doesn't recognize my Windows Home Server as a backup solution in the Action Center.  It's notifying me that I have no backup set up.  I would expect that even though I don't have "Windows Backup" configured or turned on, it would recognize that I have Windows Home Server set to back up my files.
    Todd McDermid's Blog
    Thursday, May 21, 2009 11:15 PM
  • And again back to Quickstart...
    I like the new pinning-feature and I would be happy if there weren't some strange behaviours. My goal: To open the Computer "folder" (don't know how to name it in english, I mean this normal overview of partitions, optical drives and so on) directly from the taskbar. First I thought "this couldn't be so difficult". Well, I was wrong:

    I tried to pin the Computer to the taskbar as a shortcut: absolutely not possible. Why? Only possibility is to add a "Computer" menu point in the explorer icon rightclick menu, which is a bit cumbersome to use. And why is there no option to choose in which folder explorer opens when I start it through the taskbar? It always shows my Library by default, which I don't really use.
    OK, but I got used to it after a while. Next problem: Somewhen I deleted this menu point by accident. Now I can't add it again!! I tried much, but Windows doesn't want to give me the possibility to add this Computer link :-(
    OK, I then thought, let's make a new toolbar with a shortcut to Computer. Now again problems: First is, this toolbar is removed after every reboot! I always have to create it new. [Second is, when I activate big symbols for this toolbar, the symbol(s) are too big, so the taskbar resizes and a free space appears under all the other elements.]
    So now there is really no way to put a damn Computer shortcut to the taskbar!! How annoying...

    Next thing: I find the icons in the taskbar quite too wide. There could be much more space when they were a bit more narrow.

    And now to a different, very strange bug:
    I have created a Ghost image called "D 20.5." without an ending. Afterwards, I wanted to give the file its correct ending: ".gho". But everytime I have edited the name (no matter what I wrote), a window appeares and tells me the element has not been found. A click on retry produces the warning again and again, and when I cancel, the name is the old again. After a while of testing I found out:
    It is NOT possible to rename this file!
    It is NOT possible to copy or move this file anywhere! (Same error message appears)
    When I rename a file so that it ends with a dot, sometimes it disappears after renaming and is visible only after I open its parent folder new.
    Windows doesn't seem to like dots at the end of a file name; they always disappear. That probably has a connection with the ominous behaviour of my ghost file because it has its end dot...

    Something different:
    Sometimes the task manager shows 70-80% CPU usage for a while, but there is no process listed that causes this work?! Is this a bug, and how can I find out what program uses my processor?
    Friday, May 22, 2009 12:15 AM
  • My goal: To open the Computer "folder" (don't know how to name it in english, I mean this normal overview of partitions, optical drives and so on) directly from the taskbar.
    Have you even tried looking for how to do it? There are a lots of tutorials + I posted it on this forum too.

    First you have to pin the whole Windows Explorer to the taskbar, then right-click on the icon, right click on Windows Explorer again, choose properties and replace Target with this: %windir%\explorer.exe ::{20D04FE0-3AEA-1069-A2D8-08002B30309D}::

    Regards, Kristaps.
    Friday, May 22, 2009 12:33 AM
  • My goal: To open the Computer "folder" (don't know how to name it in english, I mean this normal overview of partitions, optical drives and so on) directly from the taskbar.
    Have you even tried looking for how to do it? There are a lots of tutorials + I posted it on this forum too.

    First you have to pin the whole Windows Explorer to the taskbar, then right-click on the icon, right click on Windows Explorer again, choose properties and replace Target with this: %windir%\explorer.exe ::{20D04FE0-3AEA-1069-A2D8-08002B30309D}::

    Regards, Kristaps.

    How many average users are going to figure that one out (or are going to come look on the Technet forums)?  I am not saying the person is an average user - my point is that coming up with a convoluted work around may be good for people here but it hardly serves most users.   While I am impressed with Windows 7 (almost aross the board), this is the sort of thing that should be posted here since it is something a lot of people would like to do and is not at all intuiitive.  It at least isn't one of the unending (and annoying) make Windows 7 just like XP and I'll be happy posts.  Questioning whether someone "even tried" when they preface things with "don't know how to name it in english" is a bit much.  

    Stephen
     
    Friday, May 22, 2009 12:44 AM
  • Something different:
    Sometimes the task manager shows 70-80% CPU usage for a while, but there is no process listed that causes this work?! Is this a bug, and how can I find out what program uses my processor?

    Did you check Show Processes from All Users" in Task Manager?  I've encountered a couple cases where the numbers don't quite add up even when showing all processes but have never seen that big of a discrepancy....

    Stephen
    Friday, May 22, 2009 12:47 AM


  • %windir%\explorer.exe ::{20D04FE0-3AEA-1069-A2D8-08002B30309D}::





    I always feel a boost in self-confidence when I fully understand what I'm doing.  That's why I make such an effort at it.



    If by chance I forget that, I can reason it out again later.


    Friday, May 22, 2009 12:49 AM
  • After a program is pinned to the taskbar it is no longer possible to change the icon. I would like to see a "properties" option available when right clicking so that I can change the icon to one of my choosing.
    Right-click on the big icon, right-click on program's name again, click properties, knock yourself out :D

    As for feature to set .pngs as icons, there is one thing -- icons are optimized for their respective sizes -- 16x16, 32x32, 128x128 etc. If you use png's you'd must use one image for all sizes, since pngs can't hold multiple images in one file. So it'd be convenient , but not good -- if you really want to use your pngs, google for "png to ico converter" :)

    Regards, Kristaps.
    Common people will not want to care about file formats. They just want to use an image. Is Windows duty to convert *.* to .ICO

    yes!  You want to be user friendly?  Instead of just taking away features and hiding stuff from me, how about if you actually DO something for me, like sparing me the hassle of finding a graphic program or a plugin that supports your old windows only format?

    Another windows explorer regression: newly created files no longer show up, or at least not consistently.  You have to hit F5 to refresh.  One more thing that wasn't a problem in XP but is now apparently too hard in 7.
    Friday, May 22, 2009 12:57 AM


  • You have to hit F5 to refresh.




    Else there'd be a gap between F4 and F6.




    @Stephen:  Some of us are not bellyaching to return to XP.  We just wanted to see Vista features completed.  Not deleted.  Small difference, eh?

    Friday, May 22, 2009 1:05 AM
  • I turned off the Aero Snap features (via the accessability options) because I kept snapping my windows by accident when I really just wanted to shift them around my desktop, or drag them to another monitor. However this also turned off the Win+ArrowKey and Win+Shift+ArrowKey shortcuts, which I frequently like to use. Could there be a way to separate these into two distinct features so we can turn off one while keeping the other?
    Friday, May 22, 2009 1:21 AM
  • Scandisk remain a file on hd for a while
    After the scandisk, I found a file on my hd... After a while the file disappeared... It's so fastidious and in Vista it doesn't happens...
    http://img20.imageshack.us/my.php?image=afterscandiskz.jpg

    HD have always error?
    Event Viewer say me I have an error on a hd (why it doesn't tell me which?)... I scandisk all my hd (my internal and my 2 external)... After this, it not found any error, but after a while,  with only internal and one of the two external, again the error... Why scandisk not see me the error? And, there is really an error?
    (Scandisk sucks more than 1 GB of RAM, yet...)
    http://img20.imageshack.us/my.php?image=afterscandiskz.jpg

    Missing Icon...

    Well, this is a strang error... It happens also with a format, but with a different program... An exe have the right icon if you see the properties, but have no icon in the shortcut or normally in windows explorer... See the image...
    http://img199.imageshack.us/my.php?image=missingicon.jpg
    http://img20.imageshack.us/my.php?image=missingicon2.jpg
    Update: today exe regain the right icon in windows explorer, but the shortcut no yet...

    Window go away from the screen
    For this bug I no have image, because it happens once for now, but when I installed SyncToy, I minimized it, but when I reopen the window, it's on the left top of the screen, and only an angle is visible... And I can't move it in any way...
    Friday, May 22, 2009 9:01 AM
  • For those of you hoping to find a way to use Win7 as a no-nonsense successor to XP, there are MANY things you can configure to get the system to work in a more familiar, work-oriented fashion. That said, as stated in many posts above, SOME features are simply missing, or near impossible to configure to work as in the past.

    In setting up the system in this manner, here are some things I've discovered so far:

    You CAN remove all the "pinned" things from the SuperBar and have it function as the familiar "Task Bar".

    You CAN set up icons on your desktop to start your favorite apps.

    You CAN set up Explorer icons that will start a new Explorer window every single time.

    Dragging and dropping between two different Explorer windows works just fine.

    You CAN network Win7 with your older systems on a home network.

    You CAN turn off UAC completely, though you may not have to; it really is less intrusive.

    You CAN minimize much of the chrome around windows so there's more room to get work done.

    You CAN remove those silly big "shortcut" arrows from desktop icons.

    You CAN turn on menus in Explorer and Internet Explorer.

    You CAN turn off tabbed browsing in Internet Explorer.

    Leave them alone for a while and the background functions such as Search Indexing don't seem to get in the way.

    The number of processes and resource usage in Win7 is way down compared to Vista.

    Win7 can run on older hardware, and runs just fine using a "Basic" (non-Aero) display theme.

    Win7 is in many cases FASTER than XP.

    Apps that work with Vista generally work right in Win7, surprisingly even fairly sophisticated ones that cut deep into the system.

    Office 2003 works fine.

    Just a few negatives:

    Unfortunately, there appears to be no less "magic" (i.e., unexpected or "we know better" behavior) in Explorer in Win7 than Vista.

    There is no definitive way to show file (modified, created, accessed) times to the second in Explorer.

    The Network icon in the System Tray does not animate to show network activity.

    As with every new system, there are a lot of devices not yet supported by drivers, and old devices that will never again be supported.

    You CANNOT configure the Start button to deliver a Classic start menu experience to less flexible users.

    I certainly have not discovered everything yet about configuring Win7 as a "to work" successor to XP, but I have made great strides and I can tell you this: Get to know it and you will find Win7 is a breath of fresh air overall.

    My advice: If you cannot find out how to do something you're familiar with, don't complain about it but rather keep looking, browse the forums, and see if workarounds discovered for Vista work in Win7 (usually they do).

    I hope this helps some of you gain the confidence to look more deeply into Win7.

    -Noel
    Friday, May 22, 2009 9:23 AM
  • Re. Windows 7 RC

    Not a bad OS, I managed to install it on my Dell Inspiron Mini 9 with 16Gb SSD after shutting XP down.

    Pros: -

    - Better interface than Windows XP

    - Much more responsive to input than XP

    - More efficient desktop space than XP, you can have more programs running

    - Taskbar and Menu bar is very ingenious with the pin, unpin feature

    - Leaves XP for dead on a Netbook in terms of features

    Cons: -

    - Slightly slower to boot, than a XP bare bones install

    - Main Control panel takes some getting used to, I recommend small icon view

    To get the dual boot running I had to use a shareware version of partition magic to create a second partition and used the XP shell to install it, not much disk space left but this is not a problem as it's only a Netbook.

    Friday, May 22, 2009 11:17 AM
  • I wanted to see if the interface really scales better than in Vista when the text size is changed, so I went to "Screen resolution" -> "Make text and other items bigger or smaller", then selected "Medium - 125%". When I logged back in, everything seemed to scale well, so I reverted the setting to "Smaller - 100%". The result was that some text returned to the original size, but in most applications it became too small (see: http://serengeti.barnebhuah.org/~slawek/win7/small.png - note firefox and the context menu) I went back to text size settings and switched them to "Larger - 150%" and at the next login back to "Smaller - 100%", and the small text got even smaller than before: http://serengeti.barnebhuah.org/~slawek/win7/tiny.png
    Friday, May 22, 2009 12:28 PM
  • Photo Rotation

    When photos are viewed in Windows Explorer, Media Centre or any Default Windows photo viewing software, the EXIF information for photo orientation is ignored and photos are displayed exactly as stored, not rotated to be displayed the right way up. The orientation flag is not even displayed in the Details tab of the JPGs properties.

    Friday, May 22, 2009 12:38 PM
  • I have the mother of all suggestions... FOR REAL... I'll love to se Windows Explorer with TABS... that's right... T A B S... Like IExplorer, Firefox, etc... Why not?? You've seen that every user is happy and excited when they browse in IE, etc with TABS... there is a program that does this in XP, QT TabBar, but remember when IExplore 6 didn't have tabs?? Everyone changed to Firefox or Opera (including me) ... So don't loose big market because of this... I really hope that you take notice of these suggestion...

    And PLEASE if you readers like the idea...send more of this and support this so that windows take notice and put it in fast development

    Regards

    Friday, May 22, 2009 1:28 PM
  • I have the mother of all suggestions... FOR REAL... I'll love to se Windows Explorer with TABS... that's right... T A B S... Like IExplorer, Firefox, etc... Why not?? You've seen that every user is happy and excited when they browse in IE, etc with TABS... there is a program that does this in XP, QT TabBar, but remember when IExplore 6 didn't have tabs?? Everyone changed to Firefox or Opera (including me) ... So don't loose big market because of this... I really hope that you take notice of these suggestion...

    And PLEASE if you readers like the idea...send more of this and support this so that windows take notice and put it in fast development

    Regards

    That is an amazing IDEA!

    You should get an award for it.

    here is your award:  :)
    Friday, May 22, 2009 1:35 PM
  • I’d also like to express some thoughts about win7.

    There are many good improvements. The look in general is nicer than that in Vista; I like the new Start menu, where many programs can have their own MRU lists; icons on the taskbar can be freely moved; And, of course, it’s faster than Vista.

    But, unfortunately, the general impression is rather disappointing. These are the things I don’t like:

    - Sleep mode is broken. By default it even grayed in the menu, but if I still use it (e.g. automatically by timeout, or by pressing ‘Sleep’ button on the keyboard) it tries to sleep, and then automatically reboots. The same with hibernate. Not only I have this problem, you can find in the internet other messages about it. Some people suggest turning off ‘Allow this device to wake up computer’ option in the network card settings, but for me, it did not help. (Needless to say, in XP/Vista on the same machine all worked fine).

    - Drivers of my video card (ATI 9250) were completely removed, even from Microsoft’s server. Well, I agree, it’s quite an old card, but it was supported in Vista. But now, only “VGA compatible card” driver installed. Well, I downloaded drivers from the ATI site, but now every time I shut down or reboot the system BSOD appears.

    - The new behavior of icons in the tray. In XP/Vista, a new installed program could place there its icon, and if you didn’t need it you could hide it. But now they’re hidden by default and you have to manually show them. But in order to do this I have to know that there is an icon. So, every time after installing a program I have to open the tray and see? Is this considered as convenience?

    - The network icon in the tray. What was wrong with the previous icon, with two monitors blinking indicating the data transfer? It was convenient, but the current icon is simply useless. It shows nothing.

    - When I press right mouse button on the Start menu, it doesn’t show the usual menu anymore. Only two items: Properties and Libraries. But how am I supposed to manually add programs there? (you know, there are programs not having installers, so you have to manually unpack them and add a shortcut in the Start menu). Was it done intentionally? Why? What RMB on Start menu has to do with libraries?

    - The new model of grouping icons on the taskbar is an interesting one, still I’d prefer it were optional. For me, the old model was more convenient.


    In general, I think Vista is even better. At least, the first two entries in this my list prevent me from normally using Win7.

     

     


    I agree with the Network Tray Icon... It should show "Network Activity"... that's one of it's purpose... I don't think that it will botter a normal user... we complain about the Balloon Messages that were very anoying but NOT about a little network icon that blinks
    Friday, May 22, 2009 1:38 PM
  • CD/DVD-ROM lost his visualization
    When you open a drive, and select another visualization for this (Tiles, Small Icons), it lost your selection when you return in this folder, it only show like "Details"... If you remember, in Beta this problem wasn't...
    Friday, May 22, 2009 1:53 PM
  • <Continuation of long thread Have Comments about Windows 7 RC? (Part 2)>

    To all forum users:

    Please use this thread to note any comments that you have about Windows 7 Release Candidate (RC). Do not use this thread for any specific question or issue that you are having - just for comments or feedback. For questions/issues that require an answer, create a new thread.

    Thanks

    -Tony Mann
    Windows Client IT Pro Audience Manager for Web Forums, Windows Client Forum Owner

    I like the idea Tony.
    Sure hope that MS can add it to Windows 7 !!

    Regards
    Picsoetje

    Friday, May 22, 2009 2:14 PM
  • Many laptops made for consumers do NOT have a TPM. We still wish to take advantage of Bitlocker, but doing so requires jumping through a number of hoops! I would love to see a simple interface for those of us without TPM's, just like the interface for those with TPM's. "Click here to enable Bitlocker on this drive", "This computer does not have a TPM, would you like to use a USB key instead?" Do you understand that losing this key will result in the loss of data?" and so forth. Thanks!
    Friday, May 22, 2009 3:47 PM

  • I would like the file copying error "filename or extension too long" BANISHED once and for all.  This unnecessarily snarls every large-volume file copy experience in Windows, and is a relic of the stone ages.

    Here is the fix.  Two parts:

    1a.  Instead of throwing an alert box for this error, throw a rename form that gives users the opportunity to rename the file on the fly. Also, change the rest of the options so instead of skip/cancel (which are ambiguous anyway), it should be "Skip This File" and "Cancel Batch".
    1b.  Meanwhile, why wait for the human brain to catch up? Windows continues copying other files in the background!
    1c.  At the end of the copy/move, Windows goes back to the files that were renamed, and moves those.  It does not throw a "can't find the file" error.

    2a. In the Control Panel, or in Registry, provide an option for the user to set a maximum filename length -- and give the user a recommended setting.  (Why can't Windows figure out when it's copying a filepath that is going to get itself into trouble?)
    2b. In Internet Explorer, provide an option for the user to allow IE to truncate any long HTML page titles.  These are notorious offenders.  Web developers see fit to cram everything but the kitchen sink into HTML page titles, and the User\Favorites directory is nested sufficiently deeply that Favorites ALWAYS run into renaming / copying / moving trouble.

    Simple enough to get it into the final version of Win 7!  Do you disagree?  There's a small freeware app called Copy Handler that could be hacked in about an hour that would do it easily.  Could Microsoft's dev team please take responsibility for ridding vast swaths of humanity of this perennial headache?

    Thanks again!  Fingers crossed!

    BTW, I love Windows 7.

    a.k.a.

    Friday, May 22, 2009 4:13 PM
  • Here's how I (and many other people) think the Taskbar-Folder behavior should be:
    A: if you drag a folder to the Windows Explorer icon on the taskbar, it gets pinned io the Jump List . If you drag a file to this folder, it gets pinned too.
    B: if you drag a folder to the Taskbar , it gets pinned to the Taskbar .



    This behavior "update" would even let us create some sort of OSX-ish Stacks of files & folders, so that users wouldn't even need to make custom Start Menu toolbars just for their folders. Final result - pretty custom program & folder menus on taskbar! And everyone could just pin My Computer to the Taskbar , without having to manually change the shortcut's target!

    Think about this, Microsoft! ;)
    Regards, Kristaps.
    Friday, May 22, 2009 4:54 PM
  • I'm not near my Win7 computers this week, but when I set them up with a 23" HDMI Acer Monitor to get it to fit the screen you need to set Overscan to MAX.
    and to get to the Overscan option you have to install the ATI CCC Panel.
    For me I would guess the 1080p screens will become the norm for basic consumers. It would be nice that after a install your monitor just worked with no fixes.
    I did noticed this week that Windows MCE has TweakUI MCE that has OverScan settings.  Did they add this feature to Vista and 7? I could not find it if they did, and I'll look some more when I get home.
    I have already had problems trying to get some TV's to look right with Overscan, This might be some of ATI's fault but it seems to me that Win7 really should add more settings for getting HDMI output to look right with out having to go find more software to make it work.
    Friday, May 22, 2009 6:26 PM
  • Dear developers!
    I have posted and idea about how to improve explorer functionality in aother thread. Please point your attanetion:
    http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/w7itproui/thread/42e8820e-265e-4d9b-8027-a93e922b0e88/
    Friday, May 22, 2009 6:37 PM
  • You said it right. It is ATI's responsibility to provide the correct drivers.
    Friday, May 22, 2009 6:42 PM
  • My goal: To open the Computer "folder" (don't know how to name it in english, I mean this normal overview of partitions, optical drives and so on) directly from the taskbar.
    Have you even tried looking for how to do it? There are a lots of tutorials + I posted it on this forum too.

    First you have to pin the whole Windows Explorer to the taskbar, then right-click on the icon, right click on Windows Explorer again, choose properties and replace Target with this: %windir%\explorer.exe ::{20D04FE0-3AEA-1069-A2D8-08002B30309D}::

    Regards, Kristaps.

    How many average users are going to figure that one out (or are going to come look on the Technet forums)?  I am not saying the person is an average user - my point is that coming up with a convoluted work around may be good for people here but it hardly serves most users.   While I am impressed with Windows 7 (almost aross the board), this is the sort of thing that should be posted here since it is something a lot of people would like to do and is not at all intuiitive.  It at least isn't one of the unending (and annoying) make Windows 7 just like XP and I'll be happy posts.  Questioning whether someone "even tried" when they preface things with "don't know how to name it in english" is a bit much.  

    Stephen
     

    Thank you, Kristaps and derosnec!
    This tweak is really nice, but as derosnec said: A normal user doesn't want a strange command but an easy option. I wanted microsoft to make a menu to choose the destination folder which can't be that difficult to code...! Limitations like that simply reduce my "windows experience factor" :-)



    @swyost:
    Maybe I'm just to stupid, but I can't find this option anywhere in the task manager... Btw, I am the only user on my PC.

    Friday, May 22, 2009 7:45 PM
  • I love the new look of Windows 7. Its so beautiful and colorful and all. There is just one thing that i just want added in. remember the old folder customization feature from Windows 2000 and Windows 98. I want that added into Windows 7, then the operating can be even more customizable, beautiful, colorful, and wonderful.I just loved the folder customization feature. It was so nice being able to customize the background color or image of every folder and then the font color and font highlight for each folder as well... that was so cool. then there was the ability to add web content to folders. i just wish Microsoft would add that feature to Windows 7.
    Friday, May 22, 2009 7:50 PM
  • you can do this... I have a background wallpaper even in my USB... you just have to find it in the internet.... it is done with a system hide folder called Folder Settings, I think, and inside that folder a background.jpg will be the background image...and a desktop.ini modified archive in the root of the usb to call Folder Settings... I know it's hard for the begginer user but it's not that hard...of course I agree with you that should be an easier way to do this like in 98 or 2000
    Regards
    Friday, May 22, 2009 10:20 PM
  • First I want to start off by saying that I really like Windows 7.
    The new Smartbar is a great improvement.
    Because I often have a lot of programs running at the same time, the smartbar is far less crowded than the former taskbar.
    When you have many opened windows, it's also nice that they can be restored much faster, since I normally close some of them to make space on the taskbar.

    There's one thing that I don't understand.
    Why is the new "Show Desktop" rectangle not detachable nor movable?
    When I'm working on a project, I put my project files on the desktop.
    That way I can quickly drag them to the programs I like.
    Working this way, I use the "Show Desktop" button a lot and directly afterwards I restore a minimized Window.
    With the "Show Rectangle" at the far right, I have to do a lot of cursor moving with my touchpad.
    If you make it detachable, I would put it next to the start button.

    I have read that it's possible to restore the old "Show Desktop"
    button, but I think that a small rectangle is a great improvement since it doesn't take up so much space.

    I hope you can achieve this in the final release or that a registry setting or Powertoy becomes available.

    Yours sincerely,

    Edwin
    Friday, May 22, 2009 10:25 PM
  • http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/w7itpronetworking/thread/cff8b61e-11ec-47f9-bc4b-72664531beb5?prof=required&ppud=4

    Windows 7 - worked great for me for the first two weeks or so. Since then anytime I do any streaming of networkdata the network connection drops out and continues to be reset. I have used the "Send FeedBack" sent automated bug-reports and posted to the forum above.

    At some point the moderator changed the status of my post from "unanswered question" to "general conversation" which is incorrect. This is a vital and unresolved issue, that others are apparently having also. It

    I have tried numerous solutions and nothing has come close to working.

    I don't see how one can put out a beta for a modern operating system that can't stream network-data, and not provide any formal-support forum for such a critical issue, and not have addressed it with a live update in the past 4 months.

    I have not bought a Microsoft product since my 2001 OEM edition of Windows-XP, and I thougt after nearly a decade, I would give you guys another try. I understand this is a beta and there will be issues. Unfortunetly this is a criticle issue, that is not being addressed.
    Friday, May 22, 2009 10:38 PM
  • you can do this... I have a background wallpaper even in my USB... you just have to find it in the internet.... it is done with a system hide folder called Folder Settings, I think, and inside that folder a background.jpg will be the background image...and a desktop.ini modified archive in the root of the usb to call Folder Settings... I know it's hard for the begginer user but it's not that hard...of course I agree with you that should be an easier way to do this like in 98 or 2000
    Regards

    i know how to modify desktop.ini and whatnot, but it seems like desktop.ini works defferently in Vista and Windows Vista and Windows 7 than the file did in the older versions of Windows. I used to be able to custm write the file if it did not exist or use the ultility, but now i cannot. I just took the utility out of Windows 2000 itself for use in Windows XP. I even kind of studied the desktop.ini file so i know how the folder customization folder stuff works so that i can just write the code myslf without using the utilities.

    since Windows 7 does not seem to support the Windows 2000 style folder customization stuff, i just think that microsoft should start supporting it again. In XP i used to use it all the time, but i never got a chance to use it in vista. and microsoft never acceptd my request to put this feature back in yet. i just wish they would put this feature back in.
    Friday, May 22, 2009 11:13 PM
  • BUG: i have a folder included in a library.  If I navigate to the folder going through Libraries > library name > folder, when I search for a file I know exists, it finds nothing.  However, if I navigate to the folder the usual way Computer > drive > folder, then searching works.

    After a bit of experimenting, I figured out the problem: apparently if the folder is included in a library but the folder is not indexed, searching will find nothing.  Mind you, I'm not trying to search file content, I'm just searching by file name.

    Just because I don't have something indexed, searching shouldn't stop working!  Of course win7 tells me search may be slow b/c the folder isn't indexed; it doesn't tell me search isn't working and I shouldn't bother!  Nice.

    This is another instance where the seemingly more user friendly win7 is actually more headache inducing than XP.  In XP, the search dialog is very clear: you can search for file name and optionally for file content.  In 7, if the folder is indexed, then it will search for content (by default).  There isn't an obvious way to search just file names or to include file content.  You have to go into search options to change.  The average users will not know the difference, and will be baffled when they can't find something they know is there b/c they want to search for file content in a location that's happened to be unindexed, or conversely, will be annoyed to get seemingly irrelevant results when they just want to search by file name in a location that's happened to be indexed.

    See what you get for hiding complexity from the user?  You could remedy by adding a simple check box in the search drop down, but of course that will ruin your pretty UI and make the boss unhappy.

    You know what the problem with win7 shell is?  It's driven by looks.  If you look at all the stuff that annoy people in this thread, they're mostly present (or absent) b/c they couldn't be made to fit into the pretty UI.  If it adds clutter, can't be made pretty, or detracts from uniformity, it's gone.  Hence no up button, no customizable toolbar, no classic start menu, etc.  Steve Jobs said that Bill Gates has no taste, by which he meant PCs/Windows are ugly.  Win7 is, at long last, the triumph of Steve Jobs.

    I guess we should be grateful they let us keep the right mouse button.
    Friday, May 22, 2009 11:16 PM
  • In relation to the Library, I find it annoying that the folder view setting applies all subfolders within each section. Maybe I don't want a certain folder of pictures on thumbnail view, but if I change it, that setting is the same in all other folders in the Pictures section.
    Friday, May 22, 2009 11:25 PM
  • If you could move the "Show Desktop" button to the far left of the taskbar, there'd be a huge disadvantage -- the ability to open Start Menu just by clicking on the far lower-left corner of the screen, which is extremely convenient.

    A better option would be able to put the "Show Desktop" on the other side of the Start Orb tho...
    Regards, Kristaps.
    Friday, May 22, 2009 11:42 PM


  • See what you get for hiding complexity from the user?  You could remedy by adding a  simple check box  in the search drop down





    Advanced Feature CheckBox


    The majority of suggestions, criticisms and complaints in this forum would not exist.


    Saturday, May 23, 2009 2:03 AM
  • Wndows 7 sometimes complains that my copy is not genuine, despite the fact I got the key and DL from Microsoft. If I left click on the 'My Computer' icon and bring up the properties tab, only then will it check for activation and realize "Yes, this copy IS genuine".

    Saturday, May 23, 2009 2:56 AM
  • hi!

    I noticed that when you access recycle bin's properties, it dispays the total size on each drive on 'Space Available'

    I think it should display the free space of drives instead of its total size.

    anybody else have this issue?
    Saturday, May 23, 2009 3:02 AM
  • Interesting point Drop By,

    I've never really thought about this until you mentioned it.

    I personally think it should go further and show total space and free space per drive.
    Asrock K8NF6P, AMD64 3200+, 1.5GB RAM, Palit Geforce 8400GS 256MB, 500GB Maxtor SataII, Asus 1814BLT optical
    Saturday, May 23, 2009 3:20 AM
  • Wndows 7 sometimes complains that my copy is not genuine, despite the fact I got the key and DL from Microsoft. If I left click on the 'My Computer' icon and bring up the properties tab, only then will it check for activation and realize "Yes, this copy IS genuine".


    if you keep getting this issue, you can always change the product key... right now Windows 7 is just a release canadate so you can just get a new product key, so getting a new one may just fix the issue. besides you are only allowed to use each key on up to 5 PCs or so i think it was. if you broke that rule, that could be why you are getting that issue.
    Saturday, May 23, 2009 3:26 AM
  • I have the mother of all suggestions... FOR REAL... I'll love to se Windows Explorer with TABS... that's right... T A B S... Like IExplorer, Firefox, etc... Why not?? You've seen that every user is happy and excited when they browse in IE, etc with TABS... there is a program that does this in XP, QT TabBar, but remember when IExplore 6 didn't have tabs?? Everyone changed to Firefox or Opera (including me) ... So don't loose big market because of this... I really hope that you take notice of these suggestion...

    And PLEASE if you readers like the idea...send more of this and support this so that windows take notice and put it in fast development

    Regards

    I like this idea, tabs in windows explorer will certainly help alot in my work.
    Saturday, May 23, 2009 5:47 AM

  • Edit: And I will NOT reboot in "safe mode" to get administrator rights, and do all the pet jumps to edit super protected files. I will boot from a Linux Live CD, and do anything I want.

    --I have admin rights now and I mean full admin rights I have enabled administrator user, gave it a proper password and use it as my login. No problems there at all. Maybe you should learn how to use Win 7?--


    Actually the local administrator account, even the disabled one, does not have full admin rights at all in Windows 7 or Windows Vista. In order to have full admin rights you need to reset the permissions on the harddrive and the registry back to Windows XP.  The "trustedinstaller" is the group with all the rights and "administrators" have only read on about 30% of the machine.

    In my domain where I actually have to have full write access to everything including the HKClassesRoot folder and the System32/Windows directory I have reset the permissions.

    Really if you think about it they did this to protect home users. For a domain this type of security is redundant as the users are all only regular users with no write access at all.

    Cheers,
    Lara
    lforbes
    Saturday, May 23, 2009 6:10 AM
  • suggestions:
    1. since the taskbar is so thick and the notification icons are so small, stacking the notification icons in 2 rows will be nice, instead of having the icon in the middle and the highlight in a long rectangle.

    2. would love it if "minimize", "restore", "maximize" options are included when right click on taskbar. this will make arranging programs which are opened easier.

    3. windows media player: having a volume control and playback duration bar will be nice.

    4. copying/pasting/moving files dialog, i hope that when "more detail" is chosen, the next time the dialog appears, it's in "more detail" mode.

    5. live messenger/media device windows behaviour: lets say i'm using firefox and live messenger, with live messenger closed (ie: messenger running in background) when i minimize/close the firefox, the messenger will automatically pop up...

    6. why can't "screen resolution", "gadgets", and "personalize" be in the same window in different tabs? we would usually adjust all 3 together.

    7. my favorite "filmstrip" view is gone...

    8. navigation pane: is there a way to change the options which appear in the navigation pane? like, removing favorites, adding whatever folders from/to navigation pane on the individual preference. allowing the view/icons size to be changed will be nice also.

    that's all for now. i'll be back for more.
    Saturday, May 23, 2009 6:12 AM
  • Now, the curious history. Yesterday I had a problem with the mp3 codec in windows. I wanted to do a test (like I already did many times in windows xp) and wanted to rename l3codeca.acm to l3codeca.bak (in the SYSTEM32 folder), so I can put a new file there and do my tests.
    BUT, the system don´t let me do that! It says something like: You need a Trusted Installer to change this file" ... well... I don´t have a "trusted installer" because I´m manually doing a test. I AM the admin, and so far, I TRUST myself. WHY I don´t have a prompt or a UAC, wharever, ASKING: Do you want to do? And I can anwser YES. But, no, as I already said once, windows 7 have a really bad habit to say NOT ALLOWED in your face, despite the fact it´s "talking" to an administrator.


    You can actually give yourself control back if you want. Just take ownership and reset the permissions to XP. I have had to do this on all my Vista, Windows 7 and Windows Server 2008 machines in my domain for all my scripts to function.

    Microsoft won't recommend it and will even recommend against it but really XP is pretty secure if used properly.

    Cheers,
    Lara
    lforbes
    Saturday, May 23, 2009 6:15 AM
  • One suggestion I have

    Winmail.exe needs to be deleteable.  Right now you can rename it, but not delete it.  It's rather annoying, especially since I'd never use it.

    Saturday, May 23, 2009 8:45 AM
  • good suggestion BrowniMFC

    but first they need to fix that issue

    its funny how the smallest issue can ruin something big =)
    Saturday, May 23, 2009 12:57 PM
  • I have the mother of all suggestions... FOR REAL... I'll love to se Windows Explorer with TABS... that's right... T A B S... Like IExplorer, Firefox, etc... Why not?? You've seen that every user is happy and excited when they browse in IE, etc with TABS... there is a program that does this in XP, QT TabBar, but remember when IExplore 6 didn't have tabs?? Everyone changed to Firefox or Opera (including me) ... So don't loose big market because of this... I really hope that you take notice of these suggestion...

    And PLEASE if you readers like the idea...send more of this and support this so that windows take notice and put it in fast development

    Regards

    I like this idea, tabs in windows explorer will certainly help alot in my work.

    I kind of agree with you on the tab idea for windows explorer, but again if they do that i think there needs to be an easy way to enable and disable it because there may be people who may not want to use it.

    I remember when IE7 came out i hated the tabs. i guess it was just how the browser was setup. IE6 looked a lot nicer than IE7. at least they now made internet explorer look good again with IE8, but thats just my opinion. Now just to get IE8 working properly accross the web....
    Saturday, May 23, 2009 3:09 PM
  • The Control Panel needs more "View by" options. I don't use Small or Large Icons at all, only Details and List where appropriate, so having to change the way I read folder contents when I open Control Panel is annoying. And for the number of items it contains, parsing 3 columns top-to-bottom is a whole lot easier than parsing 15-odd rows.
    Saturday, May 23, 2009 5:53 PM
  • When installing drivers, win7 should use the win xpsp3 method. unless i can't find it in win7, in win xp sp3 one could go out and select the specific driver file olne wanted to use. i've been have a real bugger of a time trying to win7 to load the vista32 driver for my scanner.
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    Saturday, May 23, 2009 6:54 PM
  • I have had no problems running Propellerheads software Reason 4 with my E-MU 1212 sound card using ASIO drivers in the 64 bit Windows 7 RC.  I really can say that the audio streaming has greatly improved with all service enabled.  Also, I would like to see Windows 7 bring back the ability to create hardware profiles.  When I create music and use midi to sync instruments together with Reason 4.   I need to get the lowest possible latency setting.  Hardware profiles can give more CPU focus to the midi instruments and software I run.  By limiting some hardware like the network card and some services like firewall, defeneder, windows update, print pooler, PC tablet, fax, will let the CPU be more reponsive to lower latency settings.  When I work on music I don't need to be connected to the internet thus I don't need extra service and hardware running for no reason when the OS can focus on my audio work.  When I need to connet to the internet then I need those services running for my protection.

    It would be nice to see the ability have start-up profiles that which when you want to disable your network card the OS would then say since you are not connected to the internet then you can safely disable or turn off services that you select.  It would be like a custom working enviroment that turlly works your way.  Leaving only what need turned on for best preformence of a work station,  gaming machine, graphics proccessing and more.

    Sunday, May 24, 2009 4:54 AM
  • Exactly what Vista should have been, a lot less crashes of 'basic' windows operations, no crashing of IE, Windows Explorer doesn't crash, Rundll32 doesn't quit for no reason, or the folder view stays as you designated, not as insomniac as Vista (I'm being sarcastic about how Vista kept waking up regardless of the settings in Power Options).  

    The only thing I noticed is... though..  when I delete files from any subfolders inside Libraries, the file sometimes stay there / don't disappear from the view.  When I go to another folder and come back to it, the deleted files are gone from the view. A glitch that didn't exist in Vista.  I know this is an 'issue' but I'm posting caz I am not looking for any answer. 

    Combined with better over all soft/hardware compatibilities, I am personally happy with the result.  With a few more fixes, I think it can be as good as or better than XP for the great majority of the 'regular' users. The OS is much of eye-candy as Mac, and can become popular imo. 

     
    Sunday, May 24, 2009 5:21 AM