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Windows 7 oem installation on a windows 8 consumer preview evaluation copy

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  • Hi all

    The story goes that my son installed windows 8 preview copy on a previously Vista laptop. Now tried to get back to Vista again and none of my recovery media work. I was thinking that instead of paying the laptop manufacturer for a set of Vista recovery disks to just save money and Do I need to format or will booting with Windows 7 disk it will walk me through the process.

    Thanks

    Farhad

    Monday, April 23, 2012 8:54 PM

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  • This is always a scenario that is tricky for a lot of people.

    If you were to abide by the licensing rules set by Microsoft, you're not allowed to buy and install an OEM version of Windows 7 on your laptop. (note: I said "not allowed", not "not possible").

    The whole reason for the difference between OEM and Full product pricing is >> support <<. When you buy a machine with Windows already installed on it, the vendor of the machine, lets say Dell, HP, Lenovo and so forth must provide you support for the hardware, but also for Windows. Since microsoft does not need to provide support to OEM end-users it can offer these copies of Windows much cheaper than the full package product (which contains exactly the same version of Windows).

    The option to format the disk and do a clean install will work for the OEM disk as well. However like I said, you will not be able to claim product support when buying Windows 7 OEM and install it on a machine that was not originally sold with Windows 7.

    @J.W. Stuart, Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought it was not allowed to post the direct links for Windows ISO's and seen these be deleted many times.

    I hope that gives you enough insight to make your decision.

    Kind regards,

    Stephan Schwarz.


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    How to configure Windows RE/OEM Recovery Partition with MDT

    Tuesday, April 24, 2012 1:18 PM

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  • There is no offical means of uninstalling Windows 8 and recovering Windows 7, but this worked with the earlier Preview Build, it also may work (untested at this time) for the Consumer Preview.

    How to restore Windows 7 after installing the Windows 8 Developer Preview.
    This recovery procedure is only valid if you choose to keep your accounts and personal files when
    installing Windows 8, it has not been verified to work if you performed a “Custom/Clean” install of Windows 8.

    Notes:
    1) This article is based on but is not a carbon copy of Microsoft's
    "How to uninstall Windows using the Windows.old folder" If you use this
    KB article your recovery may fail.
    http://support.microsoft.com/kb/971760

    2) You will need the Windows.old folder for this proceedure to work
    Text Only Version: http://www.pagestart.com/w8pbrecoverw709291101.html
    With screen shots: http://www.pagestart.com/w8pbrecoverw710291101.html

    ============ If the above does not work AND you have a valid Window 7 OEM product Key =========

    1) Download the appropriate Windows 7 .ISO file (must match what your product key version is for)

    Windows 7 Home Premium 32Bit: http://msft.digitalrivercontent.net/win/X17-58996.iso
    Windows 7 Home Premium 64Bit: http://msft.digitalrivercontent.net/win/X17-58997.iso

    Windows 7 Professional 32Bit: http://msft.digitalrivercontent.net/win/X17-59183.iso
    Windows 7 Professional 64Bit: http://msft.digitalrivercontent.net/win/X17-59186.iso

    Windows 7 Ultimate 32Bit: http://msft.digitalrivercontent.net/win/X17-59463.iso
    Windows 7 Ultimate 64Bit: http://msft.digitalrivercontent.net/win/X17-59465.iso


    2) After downloading the .iso file use ImgBurn or Gear ISO to create a bootable DVD.

    Create a Bootable Windows 7 DVD using the .ISO file
    Burning a Windows 7 ISO File on a DVD
    http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/977640

    ImgBurn - In addtion to supporting the creation of Cds/DVDs from .ISO files,
    it supports a wide range of other image file formats, and it's free.
    (BIN, CUE, DI, DVD, GI, IMG, MDS, NRG, PDI and ISO)
    http://www.imgburn.com/

    Burning ISO Images with ImgBurn article: http://neosmart.net/wiki/display/G/Burning+ISO+Images+with+ImgBurn

    Also there is Gear ISO burn: Download and install Gear ISO burn (Free):
    http://www.gearsoftware.com/GEAR-ISO-Burn.php

    Note: Always use DVD+R media and the slowest burn speed (4x or 2x) if offered a choice.


    3) ====================== Keyless Install ================================

    How to perform a 'Keyless Install' of Windows.

    After you enter user name and password you will be asked to: 'Type your Windows product key', do not enter a key.
    Also located just below the box where you would enter the key is a box with a check mark to 'Automatically activate Windows when I am online', remove the check mark and click 'Next'.

    You will now have a 30 day grace period in which to activate Windows.

    During this 30 day grace period you can try resolving your problems. 
    After you are satisfied all problems have been resovled then activate Windows.

    4) ====================== Device Drivers =================================

    Go to your computer manufacture's support web site and check for Windows 7 drivers for your specific model number.

    If there are Windows 7 drivers, then download to a folder on your hard drive and install all of them, starting with the Motherboard/chipset drivers, SATA, LAN, Audio, USB, Graphics, Webcam, Etc., and so on.

    List of Computer Manufacturer's support sites:
    http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows/help/contact-support/computer-manufacturers


    Tips for fixing common driver problems
    http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows7/Tips-for-fixing-common-driver-problems
    Vista: http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows-vista/Tips-for-fixing-common-driver-problems


    Graphics/Video drivers:
    Check the Graphics card manufacture's download site for the most recent Windows 7 drivers for your card.
    ATI: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/Pages/index.aspx
    NVIDIA: http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index5.aspx?lang=en-us


    5) ================== How to Activate Windows 7 by Internet ==============

    1) Click Start and in the Seach box type:   Activate 
    2) Click on the 'Activate Windows' option at the top of the list
    3) Click on 'Activate Windows online now'
    4) Enter your 25 character product key (not case sensitive)
    5) Click 'Next' and wait for the key to be verified.

    Alternate Method - Reaching a real person:
    1) Click Start, and in the Search box type:   slui.exe  4
    2) Next press the 'ENTER' key
    3) Select your 'Country' from the list.
    4) Choose the 'Phone Activation' option.
    5) Stay on the phone *** do not select/press any options *** and wait for a person to help you.
    6) Explain your problem clearly to the support person.
    7) The support person should give you a confirmation ID, copy it down on paper,
    8) Verify the ID is correct by reading back to the support person.
    9) Enter the ID number and click 'Next' to finish the activation process.

    Microsoft Activation Centers Worldwide Telephone Numbers:
    http://www.microsoft.com/licensing/existing-customers/activation-centers.aspx
    (This site is for Volume License Activation but if you call they will help you)

    The phone number you called does not work:
    Microsoft Wordwide contacts: http://www.microsoft.com/worldwide/default.aspx

    Activation and registration of a Microsoft product
    http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=326851
    Windows activation: (888) 571-2048



    J W Stuart: http://www.pagestart.com


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    Monday, April 23, 2012 9:31 PM
  • I think installing an OEM verison of Windows 7 on hardware you don't have an OEM licence key for is a licencing breach.

    When running up the disk it will give you the option to format the disk and do a clean install, this is probally the better method.

    The disk should also give you the option to keep the existing windows files and rename the windows 8 files to windows.old or something similar. Besides taking up space, this may cause some stability issues.

    Alternativly have a look at this for dual boot, it's written as windows 7 is installed first, not windows 8, but same steps apply.

    http://lifehacker.com/5840387/how-to-dual+boot-windows-7-and-windows-8-side-by-side

    Monday, April 23, 2012 9:33 PM
  • Thank you guys for your speedy responses.

    Sorry I am not very techy! Some more info.

    My original operating system was Vista home premium (oem) and not Windows 7. Also unfortunately Windows 8 was not installed with a dual boot option.

    Sorry, I am a bit slow understanding.  I am trying to save money and not buy the Full Windows 7 OS(assuming that will work) which is obviously more expensive. Does it mean from your comments that it is not possible to wipe the whole lot off by formatting and install a clean new oem Windows 7?

    And I am not sure what the oem license key is and what the difference is with the full OS.

    When running up the disk it will give you the option to format the disk and do a clean install, this is probally the better method.

    Does this apply to the oem version or do I need to get the full?

    Look forward to your comments

    Farhad

    Tuesday, April 24, 2012 7:24 AM
  • This is always a scenario that is tricky for a lot of people.

    If you were to abide by the licensing rules set by Microsoft, you're not allowed to buy and install an OEM version of Windows 7 on your laptop. (note: I said "not allowed", not "not possible").

    The whole reason for the difference between OEM and Full product pricing is >> support <<. When you buy a machine with Windows already installed on it, the vendor of the machine, lets say Dell, HP, Lenovo and so forth must provide you support for the hardware, but also for Windows. Since microsoft does not need to provide support to OEM end-users it can offer these copies of Windows much cheaper than the full package product (which contains exactly the same version of Windows).

    The option to format the disk and do a clean install will work for the OEM disk as well. However like I said, you will not be able to claim product support when buying Windows 7 OEM and install it on a machine that was not originally sold with Windows 7.

    @J.W. Stuart, Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought it was not allowed to post the direct links for Windows ISO's and seen these be deleted many times.

    I hope that gives you enough insight to make your decision.

    Kind regards,

    Stephan Schwarz.


    If one of these posts answered your question or issue, please click on "Mark as answer".

    My Blog | Twitter: @Schwarz_Stephan | MCTS, MCITP, MCC.
    How to configure Windows RE/OEM Recovery Partition with MDT

    Tuesday, April 24, 2012 1:18 PM
  • @J.W. Stuart, Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought it was not allowed to post the direct links for Windows ISO's and seen these be deleted many times.

    These lniks are regularly posted on the Microsoft Windows 7 Answers forums by myself and others. I've have also (about a year ago) cleared this with MS as to the fact that these links are from other web sites that have the links to Digital River and not links that I pirated or hacked. Example: http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_7-windows_install/if-i-partition-of-my-hard-drive-will-i-loose-my/3e765ab1-22ba-446c-bec0-637f2de1df1c

    There are some links to torrent sites which I would expect to be deleted.

    J W Stuart: http://www.pagestart.com


    Never be afraid to ask. This forum has some of the best people in the world available to help.

    Tuesday, April 24, 2012 8:08 PM