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Nvidia WDDM 1.1 drivers

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  • I have a Dell Latitude D830 laptop with a Quadro NVS 140M video chipset. An additional caveat: I did an upgrade install from Windows Vista SP1, not a clean install.

    The driver that was already on my system (dated 1/22/2008 because Dell doesn't like to actually keep their drivers updated) seems to work fine in Aero. However, Windows Update offered me a WDDM 1.1 driver from nVidia. Tried that driver, screen went blank. RDPed into the laptop, found out I can no longer reboot via an RDP session from the Start menu, so issued a reboot command from Powershell.

    Computer reboots and comes up -- but without Aero. As it turns out, the new nvidia driver is not capable of anything beyond 16-bit color, which is insufficient for Aero. I'm guessing my screen went black because the existing color mode was unsupported by the new driver.

    Most likely an nvidia issue rather than a windows 7 issue, but I thought I'd post here and see if anyone had had a similar experience, particularly on laptops with nvidia graphics. For now, I'm sticking to the old Vista driver, which seems to be working fine.

    Wednesday, January 14, 2009 5:46 AM

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  • I also had problems with my desktop and taskbar. They both would  turn black after rebooting with the WDDM 1.1 drivers. I went with the 185's which remedied the problem. However, the 181.20's are the best for speed as well as image quality on my system. I have a Nvidia EVGA GTX 260.

    I have to disagree with the post above me. Nvidia is constantly fixing and putting out new drivers for their products - very much unlike the competition.
    Thursday, January 15, 2009 1:02 AM

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  • I am trying the x64 bit version with an 8800gtx.  Initially allowed W7 to install the nvidia drivers via update and everything worked fine but since then I've installed the 185.20s without any issues other than I cannot get it to keep 60hz setting for my monitor (both drivers did this).  It should run at 60hz but the setting never sticks - always goes back to 59hz.  Other than that, no other issues to report so far regarding nvidia drivers.
    Wednesday, January 14, 2009 10:01 AM
  • I did a fresh install on my hardrive completely wiped and clean and installed to the whole hardrive setup my wireless usb adaptor got access to the internet activated my product key and installed Windows 7 Updates then rebooted and went to Windows Update Again and got the latest Nvidia drivers for my Nvidia 8800GTS everything works fine got 1280x1024 and 60 hertz- no problems!

    I think old drivers from your Windows Vista Sp1 maybe interfering with the drivers currently installed and included in Windows 7

    Wednesday, January 14, 2009 10:51 AM
  • Hi Joshua,

    That's possible, although in that case, it would be nice if nVIDIA would make their installer more robust and able to clean out obsolete driver files etc.

    I have no plans to do a clean install for now, as everything works fine with the old driver. But I'll watch Windows Update to see if they end up posting a more recent driver.

    Thanks for the hint, though.
    Wednesday, January 14, 2009 3:55 PM
  • The integrated WDDM 1.1 wouldn't let me crank my 8800 GTS up to 100 Hz refresh rate on any(!) resolution. I fixed this by removing the drivers (Control Panel -> Programs and Features -> NVIDIA Drivers) and installing the lastest Vista 32-bit 181.20 WHQL drivers.

    The install wouldn't finish completely (it froze after a while with the progress bar stuck at ~50%), but after a reboot they seemed to be installed correctly anyway. NVIDIA Control Panel runs like a charm and the games I tested so far (Left 4 Dead & Team Fortress 2) run fine.

    http://www.nvidia.com/object/winvista_x86_181.20_whql.html
    Wednesday, January 14, 2009 5:16 PM
  • I have lots of problems with the NVidia drivers supplied on Windows Update - I have an external monitor attached to my Laptop via HDMI and would get blue screen at boot if the monitor is attached. After I boot up some times when I plug in the monitor it would work fine but most times it would blue screen again.

    I fixed the problem by downloading the latest NVidia driver (185.20) from laptopvideo2go.com with a modified nv_disp.inf file that allows the driver to install on my mobile chpiset. The driver recognized it was installing on Windows 7 [64 bit] and have had no problems since except for no Sleep mode but that seems to be a bigger problem with a lot of people looking at another forum post.
    Wednesday, January 14, 2009 8:01 PM
  • After doing a clean install, I downloaded the WDDM 1.1 driver from Windows Update for my 8800GTS 320MB. The odd thing was that it wouldn't let me set a desktop background unless I used the slideshow option. Also, the icons wouldn't show on the taskbar unless I unlocked it and moved it up, and the desktop icons wouldn't show at all. Although if I right-clicked where they were supposed to be, I would get the proper context menu. After uninstalling the WDDM driver, and installing the 185.20 WHQLs, the problem was gone.

    The WDDM driver seems to be buggier than Arkansas in August.
    Wednesday, January 14, 2009 9:22 PM
  • blackroseMD1 said:

    The WDDM driver seems to be buggier than Arkansas in August.


    It makes the fact that they're really trying to make you feel all comfy with the integrated drivers even funnier. :-D

    NVIDIA Graphics Supercharge Microsoft Windows 7
    Wednesday, January 14, 2009 9:26 PM
  • If nVidia only spent a tenth of the resources on driver development that they do on hardware development..
    Wednesday, January 14, 2009 11:52 PM
  • I also had problems with my desktop and taskbar. They both would  turn black after rebooting with the WDDM 1.1 drivers. I went with the 185's which remedied the problem. However, the 181.20's are the best for speed as well as image quality on my system. I have a Nvidia EVGA GTX 260.

    I have to disagree with the post above me. Nvidia is constantly fixing and putting out new drivers for their products - very much unlike the competition.
    Thursday, January 15, 2009 1:02 AM
  • I agree with the above post, using the 181.20 drives are a good bet for those using their system for gaming or are having issues with the WDDM 1.1 drivers.
    Ive installed 181.20 so that desktop scaling would work again. Now i can still play all my 4:3 games without being destorted or streched.
    Thursday, January 15, 2009 4:25 AM
  • They do seem to be better about it for retail products. For us poor laptop users, however, it's "check with your manufacturer" or using unofficial resources like laptopvideo2go. And the latter don't typically play nice with 64-bit Windows and its insistence on signed drivers (which is otherwise a good thing.)

    Monday, January 19, 2009 2:30 PM
  • I also installed the Vista x64 drivers and they worked except with one older game (Quake Wars) so I uninstalled them and used the WDDM 1.1 driver which works for everything, no problems at all.
    8800GT 512MB (G92, same as current 9800GT).
    Monday, January 19, 2009 6:00 PM
  • I have the exact same with that driver. Dell XPS M1530 here with 8600M GS. I tried the driver when I first installed Beta 1 and had blue screens at boot when had external monitor attached via HDMI. If i boot without the monitor and plug it later after I have logged in, it would work for some time but eventually blue screen as well.

    Yesterday that driver popped up on Windows Update with several other updates (I had the driver hidden before but it now showed up again) and it had newer release date so I figured they posted an updated driver - tried it again but same result - blue screens when I attach my external display.

    I have been running the 185.20 x64 drivers the rest of the time and have had absolutely no problem. No refresh rate problems like some people mentioned - none. Only thing is obviously not WDDM 1.1 but everything is working fine.

    Honestly except this driver issues, I have not experienced any other problems with the Beta so far. Had several Explorer.exe hangs which fixed themselves by restarting Explorer.exe - never had to reboot, never lost any work. If NVidia would just fix their drivers so I have stable WDDM 1.1 drivers I will be even happied but I'm not really a gamer so no big deal for me. Photoshop CS4 doesn't have hardware acceleration but I can live without that as I don't use it too much.
    Wednesday, February 25, 2009 7:37 PM
  • I installed the new driver that showed up yesterday (or two days ago now?) as well. It looks like a 179 series driver that was actually built back in January, judging by the Driver details.

    It works better than the previous two incarnations -- 32-bit color worked and Aero worked, WDDM 1.1 is enabled, and my performance rating jumped from a 3.8 to a 5.1 for gaming graphics. Incongruently, the regular graphics rating remained at a dismal 3.4.

    However, I was pretty happy, and thought my driver woes were over. Unfortunately, the driver is not stable and will eventually bluescreen (after first doing some insane flickering.)

    I'm trying a few tweaks to see if I can make it work, but most likely I'm looking at yet another revert.

    I guess the third time wasn't the charm after all. Maybe the fourth?

    Thursday, February 26, 2009 7:05 AM
  • I went to the Nvidia site and got their latest drivers, GeForce 182.06 32 bit- 7.15.11.8206, and they installed calling themselves Windows 7 drivers.  I did not have to un-install the old WDDM 1.1 drivers (I tried they came back) the installation process removed them with a short black out.  They have been working like a champ, with no issues.  The WDDM s are betas, these are finished products.  I had issues with wake up and freezes and all that went away after the new drivers and the Windows 7 beta updates.  I have no issues at this point.
    Thursday, February 26, 2009 6:59 PM
  • Hope I don't jinx myself now, but after two bluescreens, the crashes went away and I've been stable since on the WDDM 1.1 drivers from Windows Update. At the moment, I have no issues with video.
    Monday, March 02, 2009 11:32 PM