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Eudora 7.1.0.9

    Domanda

  • I'm having some problems with Eudora 7. It keeps coming up with the following error, on start up and any time it accesses the drive.

     

    Error accessing file C:\Program Files\Eudora Spam\Search\ISM5401.tmp:

    Access is Denied

    Cause: No such file or directory exists (2)

     

    With the following varient

    Error accessing file C:\Users\Lee Lloyd\AppData\Local\Temp\eud<random number/letter>.tmp

     

    Not sure what is going on. I have full access to those folders. On XP Pro (I dual boot, different partitions to keep them seperate) I have no problems at all.

    Help is always appreciated, anyone had this problem and/or fixed it? Thanks!

    L. Lloyd

    lunedì 26 gennaio 2009 04:57

Risposte

  • In cases like this where an application fails to handle Vista/7 folder virtualization (a mechanism to protect system files) you can install the application to a non-system folder.

     

    For example I have an application that will fail when installed using the default installation settings due to folder virtualization.  The super, duper easy fix was to create a folder named c:\Program Files (compatibility).  Then install the application to c:\Program Files (compatibility)\Your_Program_Here.  It is not a beautiful solution, but one that works very well for applications that are not quite Vista/7 ready.

    giovedì 19 febbraio 2009 20:55
  • The %ProgramFiles% folder has been virtualized into a Programs folder in your appdata. Eudora doesn't have the install routein to handle that. I would try installing it in Compatibility Mode for XP.
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    Mark L. Ferguson MS-MVP
    martedì 17 febbraio 2009 02:37
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  • The %ProgramFiles% folder has been virtualized into a Programs folder in your appdata. Eudora doesn't have the install routein to handle that. I would try installing it in Compatibility Mode for XP.
    Rating posts helps other users
    Mark L. Ferguson MS-MVP
    martedì 17 febbraio 2009 02:37
    Moderatore
  • In cases like this where an application fails to handle Vista/7 folder virtualization (a mechanism to protect system files) you can install the application to a non-system folder.

     

    For example I have an application that will fail when installed using the default installation settings due to folder virtualization.  The super, duper easy fix was to create a folder named c:\Program Files (compatibility).  Then install the application to c:\Program Files (compatibility)\Your_Program_Here.  It is not a beautiful solution, but one that works very well for applications that are not quite Vista/7 ready.

    giovedì 19 febbraio 2009 20:55
  • THANK YOU SO MUCH you are truly a wonderful person to share this knowledge. I am trying to finish tax figures for Mom and I, she is very ill right now and you made my weekend, thanks so much, your suggestion WORKED PERFECTLY AND EASILY. I was hitting ok 2 times per email, ready to tear my hair out!! THANK YOUOOOOOOOOO
    domenica 12 aprile 2009 17:31
  • THANKS SO MUCH FOR ASKING THIS QUESTION, I GOOGLED THE FIRST PART OF MY ERROR MESSAGE,
    Error accessing file. C:\Users\*.tmp: Access is denied.  Cause: No such file or directory exists (2)  Eudora

    AND FOUND THESE POSTS. THANK THE LORD AND YOU AND Darien Hawk below whose answer worked for me in April 2009!
    domenica 12 aprile 2009 17:33
  • I am glad that everything worked out for you.  :)  Thank you.
    lunedì 13 aprile 2009 03:51
  • I am having problems with Eudora 7.1.0.9 also.  Setting the program to run with administrative rights fixed a number of the issues I was having. I have several accounts set up, some that require Secure Socket Layers (eg Gmail) and others that don't (eg my isp's email account).

    What i'm finding is that Eudora can check accounts without SSL just fine when it loads. However the SSL accounts hang and processor usage goes way up. Eventually the initial check times out. When I hit Ctrl+M to do a manual check it works just fine (and indeed future automatic checks by Eudora also process fine - but the initial check upon loading hangs consistently.

    Has anyone else had this problem or could suggest a workaround that doesn't involve using XP mode (I'd probably rather change clients than have something as important and regularly run as e-mail running in XP mode) - but so far I haven't found one that will run multiple mailboxes in MDI like Eudora does.
    lunedì 5 ottobre 2009 21:46
  • Andrew,

    I'm having the *exact* same problem with Eudora 7.1.0.9 (also tried 7.0).  If you managed to find any solution (or even another MDI email program, that's exactly what I love about Eudora) I'd be *very* happy to hear about it...

    Zeev
    giovedì 8 ottobre 2009 12:48
  • Hi,

    I'm using Windows 7 RC Build 7100 /  Eudora 7.1.0.9

    Count me as another Eudora 7.1.0.9 user that is experiencing problems when Eudora first tries to receive mail from an SSL account. In this case, "Eudora's Secure Sockets when Receiving" option is configured as "Required, Alternate Port"

    Eudora starts up fine in Windows 7. However, when I Check Mail, the Eudora.exe CPU usage shoots up to almost 50% (which slows dow the whole system) and UI interaction in Eudora is mostly blocked. This will continue for 30 - 40 min., without letup. After 30-40 min, the Check Mail apparently times out (though there is there is no error msg), the CPU returns to normal idle and the UI is responsive. No Mail has been received of course.

    Subsequently, Check Mail then works perfectly with all the same SSL options and it will continue to do so from this point on in that Eudora session. If I don' quit Eudora, I can Check Mail as many times as needed without any delay or high CPU %.  However, the next time Eudora started, Check Mail will produce the high CPU %, etc. for 30-40 min.

    I've tried all sensible compatibility mode options for starting Eudora and the problem persists.

    Any help or hints would be greatly appreciated. I would also think that this will affect quite a few Win 7 / Eudora users.

    -Kenny
    mercoledì 21 ottobre 2009 19:47
  • Actually the same problem here with Windows 7 OEM and Eudora 7.0.0.16

    But actually it doesn't matter if Eudora checks mail with or without ssl. There's the same problem, kenny reported :((

    venerdì 23 ottobre 2009 13:54
  • I am exact same boat.   WIN 7 (10/22 release version) + Eudora 6.42(J).    Working fine on XP and VIsta.  But WIN 7 takes very long time (each start) to SSL POP servers.  (No problem for non SSl pop servers).  Tried WIndows mail and it works instantaneously to SSL pop such as gmail.
    Well ,  I am using more than 15 years Eudora but Penelope has slow progress and almost hate outlook and  windows mail.   Any choice ?  Any recommendation ?

    venerdì 23 ottobre 2009 23:31
  • Ouch, I'm 'only' getting it for approx 5 minutes.  Remarkably as it may sound I kinda learned to live with it, but 30-40 minutes would be out of the question.

    What kind of machine do you have?  I'm guessing a dual core of some sort (there's one thread that misbehaves that takes as much CPU as it can get - thankfully, on a dual core CPU that means one core will remain free).

    One thing that was brought up earlier in the thread is the possibility of using XP Mode - I have not yet tried it, but I suspect it should work.  Whether or not it's practical to use in that mode remains to be seen...

    Zeev
    domenica 25 ottobre 2009 06:40
  • Well, I guess I look at it as 30 min. to work on other tasks (no shortage there =:-0) while Eudora is doing, well, I wish I knew just *what*! Oh well, humans are nothing, if not adaptable, right ;-)?

    Core duo? Actually , my system is getting to be a bit of an antique: Dell Dimension 8300 / Pentium 4 3.2ghz / 1.5 gb ram / nVida Ge6200. I've tweaking Windows installations since, well, Win 1.01 (yep, I'm really that old and that scarred - ha), so I've been able to be get very acceptable performance from this system with XP. Of course, I'm more than ready to move on to a new PC. However, it's also been clear to me that the demands of software have more or less plateaued over the last 3-4 years, compared to the almost exponential upward spiral of the previous decades. No doubt that is due largely to the shift in focus to the web and the browser. As a result, I haven't felt the pressure to upgrade anywhere near as soon as in the past. The good news for me is that someone just gave me a very nice Gigabyte motherboard and case, so I'm going to build a new quad core system. It's been several years since I built a PC myself, so it should be fun. It's seems like it's a heck of a lot easier now than it used to be: the compatibility with all the components is much greater and almost all of the possible issues and gotchas that one might face are addressed in forums as well as the user reviews for every motherboard and related item that are available on places like New Egg. Apparently that Gigabyte mb takes very kindly to overclocking - nice.

    Perhaps the above is a great lead-in for me to heap praise on the decisions that Microsoft made re: the development of Win 7. After years of users futilely imploring MS to prioritize stabilizing, securing and streamlining the performance the OS (even at the expense of rolling out whizzy new features), MS appears to have undergone a fairly radical culture change right before our eyes and directly addressed these issues with Windows 7! And...they did a genuinely excellent job, IMO. Not only with the product, but also with the process as evidenced by opening public access to the engineering team via the blogs; offering wide open, long term betas, etc. I've worked at a few big corporations in years gone by and it's quite rare to see a company change as quickly and successfully as MS appears to have done (at least in the realms of the company that are responsible for Windows 7).

    Getting back on subject: Win 7 runs astonishingly well on my old Dell. Seeing Win 7, which is two versions later, running *faster* and more reliably on the same older hardware: that's a very laudable accomplishment. Note: I  readily concede that Windows 7 is  realistically Vista 1.5, so it's really 1 1/2 versions newer than XP. Anyway, I heartily recommend Win 7 as a no brainer upgrade to folks with similar older PCs if they want to extend the life-cycle of their systems. 

    And, lest this all sounds like way too much Windows cheerleading, I'm about as far from an doe-eyed MS fanboy as you can get w/o being an actual Apple Zombie. I'm not blind or oblivious to it's flaws: Win 7 is far from perfect (ahem, that's why we're here in this forum after all, right?). And MS will have to show that it really has it's head on straight and that Win 7 isn't just a fluke.

    I'd say there are still a few worrisome signs. For example, the infuriating insistence on continuing with the plethora of Windows SKU's, prices and versions. It's confusing to most everyone. The only sense that can be made of that is assuming that in this case, MS is motivated by cynicism and greed. Should I have to buy Professional if I just need to run Remote Desktop? Arggh! They do it because they can get away with it. And there's the current kitchen-sink collection of incompatible and non-interoperable cloud services that MS is touting. But frankly that all pales next to how much I have to question ANY company that could release some of the stupefying and horrifyingly bad promo videos that MS has unleashed in the last several months. Ex. the "commercial" for Songsmith: unintentionally and simultaneously hilarious, painful, sad and ultimately embarrassing. The same goes for the recent Windows 7 launch party videos which are totally surreal in their wrongness. Morbidly fascinating though, I admit. And the treacly sweet and cutesy little girl Windows 7 TV commercials are also way off track. I'm sorry but I have to *seriously* wonder what the ____ is going on inside MS that permits signing off on material that is of such obviously low quality as well as utterly ineffective. I mean, how hard is it for them to find decent advertising? BTW, I thought the Seinfeld ads were at least creative in a dorky and goofy way and I thought the irreverence and Gates self deprecation was a little refreshing. Hard to imagine Jobs being willing to make fun of himself like that.

    Just noticed that the CPU fans have slowed down and yep, the CPU usage just dropped from 58% to 3%. Hey, it's been fun and a great way to spend 30 min while waiting for Eudora to time out using SSL. Wow, now I can check my e-mail!  See you again next time (just kidding!).

    P.S. I checked the Eudora.log and I don't see anything that appears to be related to this problem. The logs look the same whether or not there's the long SSL timeout.
    lunedì 26 ottobre 2009 15:48
  • Hi all,

    Well if it is any consolation I am having the same issue with Eudora 7.1.0.9, the venerable email system which I am loathe to scrap, so I sure hope some genius out there comes up with the SSL fix! My wait time (on a duo-core machine) is about 2 mins, so it is barely tolerable.

    I am considering moving off Eudora though, to Outlook 2007, eeeoww. It seems Address Magic Personal Plus (Connected Software) does a reasonable job of making the migration tolerable. I have about 10 years of messages in my Eudora archives, so we shall see if it chokes or not in the process.

    But before I make "da beeg move" (aloha from hawaii!) I am going to see if one of you folks find a workaround for the SSL delay. I would like to squeeze another year or two of life from 7.1.0.9 but we shall see if it's possible.

    By the way, I am running Windows 7 HPE x64 on a reasonably recent HP AMD-based Pavilion laptop.

    One other issue -- also the fast search (X1) doesn't seem to be working well -- only some folders seem to be included in the fast search domain (yes I have rebuilt the index a few times with no improvement). So what happens is it whips through about 10 folders then comes to a screeching halt as it then manually searches the other 30 or so folders. This started happening however under Vista HPE x64, and has continued under Windows HPE x64.... Any ideas on this prob while were at it?


    Aloha,
    Dennis


    martedì 27 ottobre 2009 00:34
  • what do you mean compatibility?...see when people write these lines it makes no sense to me...can you be more clear for we who can't figure out why you just can't install a program...
    lunedì 2 novembre 2009 06:17
  • A fix I found for the delay when first checking mail is to uncheck the secure socket when receiving option . You also need to do this when sending mail .

    giovedì 5 novembre 2009 17:42
  • Well,  the POP(and smtp) servers without SSL has no problem (in Eudora+Win7) .  But some servers which demand "SSL"  to read and send mail, then only Win7 has LONG time delay  for 1st login.   I am trying to use windows live mail. But still I do not like it.  Prefer to stay to use Eudora    but ,,,,.  
    I do hope that someone to clear  this problem. (too minor issue ??)

    TNX

    venerdì 6 novembre 2009 00:32
  • I eventually gave up on this and got the free Thunderbird download.  It is very Eudora-like although it took me a minute to figure out they separated the outgoing SMTP configuration from the other parts of account setup.

    SSL is working fine in Thunderbird with all my accounts, and the best thing is:

    THUNDERBIRD AUTOMATICALLY IMPORTED 10 YEARS OF EUDORA EMAIL FLAWLESSLY.

    Sorry to shout. But it was a very big deal for me.

    Marc

    martedì 10 novembre 2009 22:01
  • Why didn't you go to Penelope?  https://wiki.mozilla.org/Penelope  Just wondering if anyone else has tried Penelope on Win7 after importing years of Eudora's mail?  I have 1.4 million e-mails so I don't want to try the conversion just yet.
    Sincerely,
    Brian Bergin
    Terabyte Computers, Inc.

    Information posted here provided "As-Is". Use at your own discretion.
    lunedì 16 novembre 2009 23:09
  • Brian: At the time I did this, I was ignorant of the Penelope versus Thunderbird differences. My brief googling around suggested Thunderbird was a well-supported, active-development-in-progress way to go with excellent Eudora compatibility so I jumped on it. Had I done more research I no doubt would have researched Penelope further. I may look into it now that you've brought it up, though I'm gradually getting used to Thunderbird. I haven't spent much time learning; just using the program's basic features.

    But I've got to say: 1.4M emails! Wow!  I wonder how long that will take to import?  I had some 10k emails or so... and it took on the order of half an hour (on my x64 quad core system). Depending on the process, you might be looking at a day or so! Keep us posted.

    Marc
    mercoledì 18 novembre 2009 20:21
  • The first-time SSL slowdown in Eudora on Windows 7
    is due entirely to the OpenSSL library upon which Eudora relies,
    and will be fixed in OpenSSL version 1.0

    You can update OpenSSL by replacing its two pre-compiled DLLs
    "libeay32.dll" and "ssleay32.dll" in the folder
    where Eudora's program files are installed.

    For more information, see:
    http://eudorabb.qualcomm.com/showpost.php?p=44199

    martedì 4 maggio 2010 22:23
  • I have a question to this reply. I installed Eudora 7 to my new windows 7 64 bit machine and it seems to work fine. My problem is that Eudora creates and loads into two different folders, one in Program Files and another one in Application Data, as discussed in the original question, which is where the mailboxes, address book and attachments and so on are stored. I am trying to migrate this information from my old computer and can't find or access where these files are stored in the new computer because the Application Data section either doesn't exist in Windows 7 or cannot be accessed. When you talk about the "c:\Program Files (compatibility)\Your_Program_Here" installation, is this for both sections or is it just for the folder that would go in Application Data? Also when you say "(compatibility)" in the location, do you mean this literally in that the parenthesis can be typed in as part of the string?  Do both parts of Eudora go here or does one create this only for the second? Please let me know. Thanks!

    Andy

    venerdì 21 maggio 2010 17:15
  • Andy,

    Uninstall Eudora and do a custom install and pick another path.  My Eudora is installed in F:\Eudora Pro (F: is a local internal HDD) and my data folder is F:\Eudora Data.  You can easily install to C:\Eudora for programs and C:\Eudora Data for your mail boxes.  Then just copy your mail boxes to the new location.


    Sincerely,
    Brian Bergin
    Terabyte Computers, Inc.

    Information posted by me in these forums is provided "As-Is" with no warranties or rights conferred. Use at your own discretion/risk.
    venerdì 21 maggio 2010 19:25
  • In cases like this where an application fails to handle Vista/7 folder virtualization (a mechanism to protect system files) you can install the application to a non-system folder.

     

    For example I have an application that will fail when installed using the default installation settings due to folder virtualization.  The super, duper easy fix was to create a folder named c:\Program Files (compatibility).  Then install the application to c:\Program Files (compatibility)\Your_Program_Here.  It is not a beautiful solution, but one that works very well for applications that are not quite Vista/7 ready.

    I have installed Eudora 7.1.09 in Windows 7 64 bit and it seems to be working fine. The problem is migrating my mailboxes and address book from my Windows XP computer. Eudora creates two sets of files, the operating stuff in Program Files and the mailboxes and such in Application Data. Unfortunately in Windows 7 I can’t find/access Application Data. How do I redo the install so these files get loaded into a string that I can access so I can move my stuff in there so it all works? 

    Does creating the above mentioned “c:\Program Files (compatibility)\Your_Program_Here” work in this instance? And if so, does the word “compatibility” really go in parentheses?

    Please let me know. Thanks!!

    Andy

    lunedì 24 maggio 2010 12:31
  • >>In cases like this where an application fails to handle Vista/7 folder virtualization (a mechanism to protect system files) you can install the application to a non-system folder.

    For example I have an application that will fail when installed using the default installation settings due to folder virtualization.  The super, duper easy fix was to create a folder named c:\Program Files (compatibility).  Then install the application to c:\Program Files (compatibility)\Your_Program_Here.  It is not a beautiful solution, but one that works very well for applications that are not quite Vista/7 ready.<<


    I have installed Eudora 7.1.09 in Windows 7 64 bit and it seems to be working fine. The problem is migrating my mailboxes and address book from my Windows XP computer. Eudora creates two sets of files, the operating stuff in Program Files and the mailboxes and such in Application Data. Unfortunately in Windows 7 I can’t find/access Application Data. How do I redo the install so these files get loaded into a string that I can access so I can move my stuff in there so it all works?  

    Does creating the above mentioned “c:\Program Files (compatibility)\Your_Program_Here” work in this instance? And if so, does the word “compatibility” really go in parentheses?


    Please let me know.  Thanks!

    Andy

    lunedì 24 maggio 2010 12:35
  • This happened to me when I transferred my emails from my old PC running Vista to the new one running Windows 7. As for me the problem was Administrator Access control which I had to give Eudora. You could do that by clicking Right Mouse on the Eudora Icon on the desktop and selecting Run as Administrator.

    Hope this helps..

     

    giovedì 24 marzo 2011 01:08
  • Hi John

    I downloaded OpenSSL as you mentioned and unfortunately the problem still occurs with Eudora's SSL.  I tried version 1.0 lite and 0.9.8 lite, replacing libeay32.dll and sslea32.dll in the Eudora folder with the updated DLLS.

    All this time i've been dealing with the problem which is a 1 minute delay before the server connection times out.  If anything could fix it, it would be a miracle for me.

    I've already ironed out all the other problems people have mentioned above by installing to a custom folder not within program files and running the program as administerator, but the SSL thing still plagues me.

    Andrew

    lunedì 22 agosto 2011 13:58
  • The problem with Eudora's SSL on Windows 7 is due to QCSSL.dll.  To learn about all the details and easy solution go to

     

    http://eudorabb.qualcomm.com/showthread.php?p=46348

     

    There is a patched version of QCSSL.dll available there that fixes the problem.

     

     

    mercoledì 28 settembre 2011 15:40
  • The link above is dead. Here is a snapshot on how to modify QCSSL.dll yourself.


    Len64bit

    giovedì 15 agosto 2013 00:25
  • WOW! 2009/10/05 and I have been facing this problem for about a month. I have been using Eudora for decades.

    It has become very frustrating and have even reached out to GOD (KatrinaKnight) and and Eudora email forum.

    I am permuting testing combinations and different debug settings.

    HAS this problem been solved?

    Bob at storageman.com

    domenica 6 ottobre 2013 21:23
  • Tried that.  Installed Eudora on the D: drive in a folder named "Eudora files" but no success.  Works fine on my XP Pro machine but not in Vista.
    mercoledì 23 ottobre 2013 16:01