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Problems printing large pdf file

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  • I have problems printing large technical documentations from pdf reader

    For example: The document is about 650 pages, 260 MB
    Using adobe reader 9.3.0
    Printing to xerox 7435 with punch unit
    Printserver is win 2008 R2
    Client is win7 32 bit

    When using PS drivers, it is possible to print the document.
    Problem is that this wil take about 50 minutes to spool / RIP the document. Then it takes about 20 minutes to print. During te first 50 minutes te printer is completely locked for printing by other users.

    So I try to print via PCL
    When spooling document via PCL it wil take about te same time (estimated) but during the first 50 minutes the machine is not locked up for other printing jobs. So it enables me to get the document to the printer and use timed print or secure print to start the actual printing outsite working hours.

    Problem with PCL is that the spool file becomes much bigger.
    PS => 2,66 GB
    PCL => printing error after spooling 3,99 GB
    first I get: The document could not be printed
    second error: There were no pages to print

    I Tried both "Render print jobs on client computers" and rendering on the server.

    Stopping at 4 GB seems like a file size limitation
    How can I get passed this limitation???

    Any help / ideas for testing would be nice!!

    Monday, November 29, 2010 9:09 PM

Answers

  • Hi,

    Thanks for the post.

    Please understand that some applications using GDI32 will have a limitation of scaling up a single page to 4 GB. So if we are printing a single page which is very huge in size, a single image would be created by GDI32 and if this image goes over 4 GB, the GDI Image will be truncated.

    In this case, we may try the following methods for test.


    1) Select the setting "Start printing after last page is spooled" and try
    2) Split a single large page into multiple pages. Most of the drivers would have the facility to do so.

    Hope this helps.

    Miles

     

     


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    Tuesday, November 30, 2010 6:50 AM
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  • Print thre document to the XPS printer so the data is in XPS format. Open the XPS document and print to the device.

    Print the document in sections.

     

     


    Alan Morris Windows Printing Team
    Tuesday, November 30, 2010 5:16 PM
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  • Yes GDI has a 4 GIG limit.  You can attempt to minimize the fonts included in the job or use device font substitution so the fonts on the device will used.  Normally this is a setting in the driver.
    Alan Morris Windows Printing Team
    Tuesday, November 30, 2010 5:47 AM
    Answerer
  • Hi,

    Thanks for the post.

    Please understand that some applications using GDI32 will have a limitation of scaling up a single page to 4 GB. So if we are printing a single page which is very huge in size, a single image would be created by GDI32 and if this image goes over 4 GB, the GDI Image will be truncated.

    In this case, we may try the following methods for test.


    1) Select the setting "Start printing after last page is spooled" and try
    2) Split a single large page into multiple pages. Most of the drivers would have the facility to do so.

    Hope this helps.

    Miles

     

     


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    Tuesday, November 30, 2010 6:50 AM
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  • Thanx for the advise...

    Single pages will not go over the 4 GB limit. I estimate they will stay below 15 MB per page.

    Right now I'm trying the option to "start printing after last page is spooled"
    I guess it won't help much, but you never know untill u tried ;-)

    Is it possible to configure Adobe Reader to bypass GDI for printing en print directly to the spool process on the server? Or are there registry settings to configure windows on using a larger max for GDI printing?

    Documents get bigger almost every day and 4 GB for PCL printing isn't that much.....

     

    Tuesday, November 30, 2010 8:03 AM
  • Just finished the test with "Start printing after last page is spooled" and it also ended up in an error "The document could not be printed" We only use a couple of fonts, couldn't gain much by using machine fonts. (not noticeable)

    Tried disabling advanced printing features in the hope it would lead to smaller files witch didn't help either.
    Kept the error "The document could not be printed" at 3,99 GB / 524 pages

    Tried printing to file and send it to the printer via http. Worked for a small file (one page)

    When I print the complete doc the .prn file size is 744 MB. A file this large won't print if I upload it via de webinterface on the printer. copying to the printspooler (copy / b) isn't working either, probably because of accounting configuration on the printer. (I can't turn it off for testing)

    Any other ideas please ????

     

    Tuesday, November 30, 2010 10:21 AM
  • Print thre document to the XPS printer so the data is in XPS format. Open the XPS document and print to the device.

    Print the document in sections.

     

     


    Alan Morris Windows Printing Team
    Tuesday, November 30, 2010 5:16 PM
    Answerer
  • Printing the document in sections is also possible with adobe reader. Just don't want to use it, because parts of documents can become mixed up.

    Hopefully I'll manage to find workarounds for the problems...

    Monday, December 06, 2010 2:50 PM