Vista very slow to close and open files
Hi, Vista Business is very slow to open and close *some* files. Sometimes its fast, sometimes its slow, all the files are in redirected folders push out by the domain group policy on the Windows 2003 R2 enterprise server.
Below is a dump from netmon from the Vista box when closing a document, from hitting the x cross it takes upto 1 minute to close word:
16:30:33.463 1341 75.006125 TCP TCP: Flags=....A..., SrcPort=49208, DstPort=NETBIOS Session Service(139), Len=0, Seq=4270678821, Ack=4020558912, Win=254 (scale factor not found)
16:30:33.463 1342 75.006125 SMB SMB: C; Transact2, Find First2, ID Both Directory Info, Pattern = \chrismorley\My Documents\~$AAR Pre Qual.doc
16:30:33.463 1343 75.006125 SMB SMB: R; Transact2, Open2 - NT Status: System - Error, Code = (15) STATUS_NO_SUCH_FILE
16:30:33.463 1344 75.006125 SMB SMB: C; Transact2, Find First2, ID Both Directory Info, Pattern = \chrismorley\My Documents\~$AAR Pre Qual.doc
16:30:33.463 1345 75.006125 SMB SMB: R; Transact2, Open2 - NT Status: System - Error, Code = (15) STATUS_NO_SUCH_FILE
16:30:33.463 1346 75.006125 SMB SMB: C; Transact2, Find First2, Both Directory Info (NT), Pattern = \chrismorley\My Documents\~$AAR Pre Qual.doc
16:30:33.463 1347 75.006125 SMB SMB: R; Transact2, Open2 - NT Status: System - Error, Code = (15) STATUS_NO_SUCH_FILE
16:30:33.463 1348 75.006125 SMB SMB: C; Transact2, Find First2, Both Directory Info (NT), Pattern = \chrismorley\My Documents\~$AAR Pre Qual.doc
16:30:33.463 1349 75.006125 SMB SMB: R; Transact2, Open2 - NT Status: System - Error, Code = (15) STATUS_NO_SUCH_FILE
16:30:33.463 1350 75.006125 SMB SMB: C; Close, FID = 0x4000
16:30:33.463 1351 75.006125 SMB SMB: R; Close, FID = 0x0000
16:30:33.463 1352 75.006125 SMB SMB: C; Transact2, Find First2, Both Directory Info (NT), Pattern = \chrismorley\My Documents
16:30:33.463 1353 75.006125 SMB SMB: R; Transact2, Open2, FID = 0x1807
16:30:33.463 1354 75.006125 SMB SMB: C; Close, FID = 0xC009
16:30:33.463 1355 75.006125 SMB SMB: R; Close, FID = 0x0000
16:30:33.463 1356 75.006125 SMB SMB: C; Transact2, Find First2, Both Directory Info (NT), Pattern = \chrismorley\My Documents
16:30:33.463 1357 75.006125 SMB SMB: R; Transact2, Open2, FID = 0x1800
16:30:33.463 1358 75.006125 SMB SMB: C; Nt Create Andx, FileName = \chrismorley\My Documents
16:30:33.478 1359 75.021725 SMB SMB: R; Nt Create Andx, FID = 0xC00B
16:30:33.478 1360 75.021725 SMB SMB: C; Transact2, Find First2, ID Both Directory Info, Pattern = \chrismorley\My Documents\~$AAR Pre Qual.doc
16:30:33.478 1361 75.021725 SMB SMB: R; Transact2, Open2 - NT Status: System - Error, Code = (15) STATUS_NO_SUCH_FILE
16:30:33.478 1362 75.021725 SMB SMB: C; Nt Create Andx, FileName = \chrismorley\My Documents
16:30:33.478 1363 75.021725 SMB SMB: R; Nt Create Andx, FID = 0x800D
16:30:33.478 1364 75.021725 SMB SMB: C; Transact2, Find First2, Both Directory Info (NT), Pattern = \chrismorley\My Documents\~$AAR Pre Qual.doc
16:30:33.478 1365 75.021725 SMB SMB: R; Transact2, Open2 - NT Status: System - Error, Code = (15) STATUS_NO_SUCH_FILE
16:30:33.478 1366 75.021725 SMB SMB: C; Transact2, Find First2, ID Both Directory Info, Pattern = \chrismorley\My Documents\~$AAR Pre Qual.doc
16:30:33.478 1367 75.021725 SMB SMB: R; Transact2, Open2 - NT Status: System - Error, Code = (15) STATUS_NO_SUCH_FILE
16:30:33.478 1368 75.021725 SMB SMB: C; Transact2, Find First2, Both Directory Info (NT), Pattern = \chrismorley\My Documents\~$AAR Pre Qual.doc
16:30:33.478 1369 75.021725 SMB SMB: R; Transact2, Open2 - NT Status: System - Error, Code = (15) STATUS_NO_SUCH_FILE
16:30:33.478 1370 75.021725 SMB SMB: C; Close, FID = 0xC00B
16:30:33.478 1371 75.021725 SMB SMB: R; Close, FID = 0x0000
16:30:33.478 1372 75.021725 SMB SMB: C; Transact2, Find First2, Both Directory Info (NT), Pattern = \chrismorley\My Documents
16:30:33.478 1373 75.021725 SMB SMB: R; Transact2, Open2, FID = 0x0005
16:30:33.478 1374 75.021725 SMB SMB: C; Close, FID = 0x800D
16:30:33.478 1375 75.021725 SMB SMB: R; Close, FID = 0x0000
16:30:33.478 1376 75.021725 SMB SMB: C; Transact2, Find First2, Both Directory Info (NT), Pattern = \chrismorley\My Documents
16:30:33.478 1377 75.021725 SMB SMB: R; Transact2, Open2, FID = 0x0006
16:30:33.478 1378 75.021725 SMB SMB: C; Nt Create Andx, FileName = \chrismorley\My Documents
16:30:33.478 1379 75.021725 SMB SMB: R; Nt Create Andx, FID = 0x4003
16:30:33.478 1380 75.021725 SMB SMB: C; Transact2, Find First2, ID Both Directory Info, Pattern = \chrismorley\My Documents\~$AAR Pre Qual.doc
16:30:33.478 1381 75.021725 SMB SMB: R; Transact2, Open2 - NT Status: System - Error, Code = (15) STATUS_NO_SUCH_FILE
16:30:33.478 1382 75.021725 SMB SMB: C; Transact2, Find First2, Both Directory Info (NT), Pattern = \chrismorley\My Documents\~$AAR Pre Qual.doc
16:30:33.478 1383 75.021725 SMB SMB: R; Transact2, Open2 - NT Status: System - Error, Code = (15) STATUS_NO_SUCH_FILE
16:30:33.478 1384 75.021725 SMB SMB: C; Close, FID = 0x4003
16:30:33.478 1385 75.021725 SMB SMB: R; Close, FID = 0x0000
16:30:33.478 1386 75.021725 SMB SMB: C; Transact2, Find First2, Both Directory Info (NT), Pattern = \chrismorley\My Documents
16:30:33.494 1387 75.037325 SMB SMB: R; Transact2, Open2, FID = 0x0801Any reason for this? I cant use Vista for my other users because they will complain like mad with delays like this.
Any ideas?
Many thanks in advance,
Chris
Answers
Hi, issuing the following commands:
netsh interface tcp set global autotuninglevel=disabled
netsh interface tcp set global autotuninglevel=normalAlong with the smb tweaks as pushed out via group policy seems to have improved the opening speed of the files under Vista. I am still monitoring this and if stable for a while longer i will consider this issue to be fixed. The adm template can be seen below for the registry tweaks:
Code Block;
; Created 2007-11-07 by Helge Klein
;;
; Machine settings
;
CLASS MACHINECATEGORY !!Optimization
CATEGORY !!ExplorerSMB
POLICY !!UseDesktopIniCache
EXPLAIN !!UseDesktopIniCache_Help
KEYNAME “SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\Explorer”
VALUENAME “UseDesktopIniCache”
VALUEON NUMERIC 1
VALUEOFF NUMERIC 0
END POLICYPOLICY !!NoRemoteRecursiveEvents
EXPLAIN !!NoRemoteRecursiveEvents_Help
KEYNAME “SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\Explorer”
VALUENAME “NoRemoteRecursiveEvents”
VALUEON NUMERIC 1
VALUEOFF NUMERIC 0
END POLICYPOLICY !!NoRemoteChangeNotify
EXPLAIN !!NoRemoteChangeNotify_Help
KEYNAME “SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\Explorer”
VALUENAME “NoRemoteChangeNotify”
VALUEON NUMERIC 1
VALUEOFF NUMERIC 0
END POLICYPOLICY !!NoDetailsThumbnailOnNetwork
EXPLAIN !!NoDetailsThumbnailOnNetwork_Help
KEYNAME “SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\Explorer”
VALUENAME “NoDetailsThumbnailOnNetwork”
VALUEON NUMERIC 1
VALUEOFF NUMERIC 0
END POLICYPOLICY !!InfoCacheLevel
EXPLAIN !!InfoCacheLevel_Help
KEYNAME “System\CurrentControlSet\Services\MRXSmb\Parameters”
VALUENAME “InfoCacheLevel”
VALUEON NUMERIC 16
VALUEOFF NUMERIC 1
END POLICYPOLICY !!SuppressionPolicy
EXPLAIN !!SuppressionPolicy_Help
KEYNAME “SOFTWARE\Classes\*\shellex\PropertySheetHandlers\CryptoSignMenu”
ACTIONLISTON
KEYNAME “SOFTWARE\Classes\*\shellex\PropertySheetHandlers\CryptoSignMenu”
VALUENAME “SuppressionPolicy”
VALUE NUMERIC 1048576
KEYNAME “SOFTWARE\Classes\*\shellex\PropertySheetHandlers\{3EA48300-8CF6-101B-84FB-666CCB9BCD32}”
VALUENAME “SuppressionPolicy”
VALUE NUMERIC 1048576
KEYNAME “SOFTWARE\Classes\*\shellex\PropertySheetHandlers\{883373C3-BF89-11D1-BE35-080036B11A03}”
VALUENAME “SuppressionPolicy”
VALUE NUMERIC 1048576
KEYNAME “SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\explorer\SCAPI”
VALUENAME “Flags”
VALUE NUMERIC 1051650
END ACTIONLISTON
ACTIONLISTOFF
KEYNAME “SOFTWARE\Classes\*\shellex\PropertySheetHandlers\CryptoSignMenu”
VALUENAME “SuppressionPolicy”
VALUE DELETE
KEYNAME “SOFTWARE\Classes\*\shellex\PropertySheetHandlers\{3EA48300-8CF6-101B-84FB-666CCB9BCD32}”
VALUENAME “SuppressionPolicy”
VALUE DELETE
KEYNAME “SOFTWARE\Classes\*\shellex\PropertySheetHandlers\{883373C3-BF89-11D1-BE35-080036B11A03}”
VALUENAME “SuppressionPolicy”
VALUE DELETE
KEYNAME “SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\explorer\SCAPI”
VALUENAME “Flags”
VALUE DELETE
END ACTIONLISTOFF
END POLICYPOLICY !!SafeDllSearchMode
EXPLAIN !!SafeDllSearchMode_Help
KEYNAME “System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Session Manager”
VALUENAME “SafeDllSearchMode”
VALUEON NUMERIC 1
VALUEOFF NUMERIC 0
END POLICYPOLICY !!SafeProcessSearchMode
EXPLAIN !!SafeProcessSearchMode_Help
KEYNAME “System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Session Manager”
VALUENAME “SafeProcessSearchMode”
VALUEON NUMERIC 1
VALUEOFF NUMERIC 0
END POLICYEND CATEGORY
END CATEGORY
;
; User settings
;
CLASS USERCATEGORY !!Optimization
CATEGORY !!ExplorerSMB
POLICY !!NoRemoteRecursiveEvents
EXPLAIN !!NoRemoteRecursiveEvents_Help
KEYNAME “SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\Explorer”
VALUENAME “NoRemoteRecursiveEvents”
VALUEON NUMERIC 1
VALUEOFF NUMERIC 0
END POLICYPOLICY !!NoRemoteChangeNotify
EXPLAIN !!NoRemoteChangeNotify_Help
KEYNAME “SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\Explorer”
VALUENAME “NoRemoteChangeNotify”
VALUEON NUMERIC 1
VALUEOFF NUMERIC 0
END POLICYPOLICY !!StartRunNoHOMEPATH
EXPLAIN !!StartRunNoHOMEPATH_Help
KEYNAME “SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\Explorer”
VALUENAME “StartRunNoHOMEPATH”
VALUEON NUMERIC 1
VALUEOFF NUMERIC 0
END POLICYPOLICY !!NoDetailsThumbnailOnNetwork
EXPLAIN !!NoDetailsThumbnailOnNetwork_Help
KEYNAME “SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\Explorer”
VALUENAME “NoDetailsThumbnailOnNetwork”
VALUEON NUMERIC 1
VALUEOFF NUMERIC 0
END POLICYEND CATEGORY
END CATEGORY
[strings]
Optimization=”Optimization”
ExplorerSMB=”Explorer Network Performance”UseDesktopIniCache=”Cache Desktop.ini”
UseDesktopIniCache_Help=”http://support.microsoft.com/kb/840309/EN-US”NoRemoteRecursiveEvents=”Disable Remote Recursive Events”
NoRemoteRecursiveEvents_Help=”http://support.microsoft.com/?scid=kb%3Ben-us%3B330929&x=9&y=10″NoRemoteChangeNotify=”Turn Off Directory Notification SMB Requests”
NoRemoteChangeNotify_Help=”http://support.microsoft.com/?scid=kb%3Ben-us%3B812669&x=14&y=12″StartRunNoHOMEPATH=”Do Not Search Home Folder First When a Program is Started From Start -> Run”
StartRunNoHOMEPATH_Help=”http://support.microsoft.com/?scid=kb%3Ben-us%3B264061&x=18&y=9″NoDetailsThumbnailOnNetwork=”Do Not Extract Details Thumbnails from Files Over the Network”
NoDetailsThumbnailOnNetwork_Help=”http://support.microsoft.com/?scid=kb%3Ben-us%3B830903&x=17&y=18″SuppressionPolicy=”Do Not Obtain Detailed File Information When Opening a File”
SuppressionPolicy_Help=”http://support.microsoft.com/kb/829700/EN-US”InfoCacheLevel=”Enable Caching of Path Information for all Files”
InfoCacheLevel_Help=”http://support.microsoft.com/kb/834350/EN-US”SafeDllSearchMode=”Do Not Search for DLLs in Home Folder First (W2k)”
SafeDllSearchMode_Help=”http://support.microsoft.com/kb/306850/EN-US”SafeProcessSearchMode=”Do Not Search for DLLs in Home Folder First (XP and W2k3)”
SafeProcessSearchMode_Help=”http://support.microsoft.com/?scid=kb%3Ben-us%3B905890&x=13&y=9″I am concerned however as to why these tweaks had to be made (netsh and registry changes) should it not be fast by default out of the box?
Many thanks,
Chris
All Replies
Hi Chris,
Thank you for the post. I understand that the Documents folder is redirected to a share folder on a Windows 2003 R2 enterprise server by using Group Policy. However, you find that sometimes it will take a long time to open and close the files located in Documents folder.
Regarding the issue, please check the following points:
1. Does the issue occur if you open and close a .txt file?
2. Does the issue occur in other operating system such as Windows XP?
Please perform the following actions to check the result:
1. Turn off Auto Tuning on the Windows Vista machine:
-----------------------------------------
a. Click Start, and type cmd in the Start Search box.
b. Right-click the cmd icon, and select Run as Administrator.
c. In the Command Prompt, type the following command:
netsh interface tcp set global autotuninglevel=disabled
d. After that, please check the result.
Note: Please re-enable Auto Tuning by typing the following command if the above steps cannot fix the issue:
netsh interface tcp set global autotuninglevel=normal
2. Install the updates KB938194 and KB938979 on the Windows Vista machine.
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/938194
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/938979Hope it helps.
Sincerely,
Joson Zhou
Microsoft Online Community Support
Hi, thanks for the reply. I do not know if it happens to text files, but it does happen to word documents. I will check this at the first opportunity and let you know the result. The delay doesnt happen 100% of the time, mostly 80% when there are long delays (20 second to 1 minute) when closing. Sometimes there is a delay when opening, sometimes a delay when closing, sometimes it is instant. This is all with the same file. Some other documents open instantly most of the time.
This issue does not happen on XP Professional (however please see below as i have had other issues and they may be related). We have Windows 2003 R2 Enterprise acting as domain controller and it is the location for the redirected folders. All machines (server, client XP Pro and client Vista business) are all on the same network switch (which is a basic 3com switch with no QOS or any other functionality).
I have checked the permissions on the user home directories for the redirected folders and they are as per the default created directories with the user/owner having full permissions on the share.
I will try the hotfixes you suggested, in the meantime i would like to bring to your attention I have other issues with Windows XP where My Documents took a long time to open as per posts in other forums, i will repeat them below:
"Hi, i have pushed Offline files and redirected folders via group policy for our domain. It does work with files (My documents) being
redirected to the network and offline files allowing the users to work away from the network.
However, some users are complaining My Documents is slow to open (first time in the morning and at various points throughout the day), i.e. they double click on My documents and it will sit there for around 20 seconds, and in some cases upto 2 minutes, before My Documents open. Opening any network share during this time is no problem (mapped drive in my computer) and that is fast as expected. The only delay is with the redirected my documents.
Another issue i have is that i get frequent disconnects for offline files, the baloon tip pops up "connection lost to svr001 - You are now Working Offline". i can click to synchronise and it goes straight back up no problem. I know the link is still ok as i can ping the server and infact it is my dns server and i can browse the internet fine.
We are running Windows XP SP2, and Windows 2003 R2 with all updates and latest service pack. The box is running as domain controller, and location for the offline files/redirected folders.
I have followed "netsh int ip set chimney DISABLED", then install the following hotfix http://support.microsoft.com/kb/936594 on the Windows 2003 Server... it didnt have any effect or different to the delays.A dump from netmon from a client XP Professional machine which explorer is hanging for 30+ seconds when opening my documents can be seen below:
Code Block13:16:27.164 24.625000 192.168.2.100 192.168.2.10 SMB SMB: C; Transact2, Query Path Info, Query File Basic Info, Pattern = \CHRISMORLEY\MY DOCUMENTS\MY MUSIC\DESKTOP.INI
13:16:27.164 24.625000 192.168.2.10 192.168.2.100 SMB SMB: R; Transact2, Open2, FID = 0x0000
13:16:27.164 24.625000 192.168.2.100 192.168.2.10 SMB SMB: C; Transact2, Query Path Info, Query File Basic Info, Pattern = \CHRISMORLEY\MY DOCUMENTS\MY MUSIC\DESKTOP.INI
13:16:27.164 24.625000 192.168.2.10 192.168.2.100 SMB SMB: R; Transact2, Open2, FID = 0x0000
13:16:27.164 24.625000 192.168.2.100 192.168.2.10 SMB SMB: C; Transact2, Query File Info, Query EAs From List, FID = 0x8002
13:16:27.164 24.625000 192.168.2.10 192.168.2.100 SMB SMB: R; Transact2, Open2, FID = 0x0004 - NT Status: System - Error, Code = (13) STATUS_INVALID_PARAMETER
13:16:27.164 24.625000 192.168.2.100 192.168.2.10 SMB SMB: C; Read Andx, FID = 0x8002, 658 bytes at Offset 0CODE13:16:27.023 24.484375 192.168.2.100 192.168.2.10 SMB SMB: C; Nt Create Andx, FileName = \chrismorley\My Documents
13:16:27.023 24.484375 192.168.2.10 192.168.2.100 SMB SMB: R; Nt Create Andx, FID = 0x400E
13:16:27.023 24.484375 192.168.2.100 192.168.2.10 SMB SMB: C; Nt Transact, NT IOCTL, FID = 0x400E
13:16:27.023 24.484375 192.168.2.10 192.168.2.100 SMB SMB: R; Nt Transact, Unknown NT Transaction Function
13:16:27.023 24.484375 192.168.2.100 192.168.2.10 SMB SMB: C; Transact2, Query FS Info, Object ID Info
13:16:27.023 24.484375 192.168.2.10 192.168.2.100 SMB SMB: R; Transact2, Open2 - NT Status: System - Error, Code = (52) STATUS_OBJECT_NAME_NOT_FOUND
13:16:27.023 24.484375 192.168.2.100 192.168.2.10 SMB SMB: C; Transact2, Query Path Info, Query File Basic Info, Pattern = \chrismorley
13:16:27.023 24.484375 192.168.2.10 192.168.2.100 SMB SMB: R; Transact2, Open2, FID = 0x0000
13:16:27.023 24.484375 192.168.2.100 192.168.2.10 SMB SMB: C; Transact2, Query Path Info, Query File Basic Info, Pattern = \chrismorley
13:16:27.023 24.484375 192.168.2.10 192.168.2.100 SMB SMB: R; Transact2, Open2, FID = 0x0000
13:16:27.023 24.484375 192.168.2.100 192.168.2.10 SMB SMB: C; Close, FID = 0x400E
13:16:27.023 24.484375 192.168.2.10 192.168.2.100 SMB SMB: R; Close, FID = 0x0000
13:16:27.023 24.484375 192.168.2.100 192.168.2.10 SMB SMB: C; Session Setup Andx
13:16:27.023 24.484375 192.168.2.100 192.168.2.10 NbtSS NbtSS: NbtSS Continue payload, Length = 1238
13:16:27.023 24.484375 192.168.2.10 192.168.2.100 TCP TCP: Flags=....A..., SrcPort=Microsoft-DS(445), DstPort=1073, Len=0, Seq=1762077628, Ack=384156695, Win=65535 (scale factor not found)
13:16:27.023 24.484375 192.168.2.10 192.168.2.100 SMB SMB: R; Session Setup Andx
13:16:27.023 24.484375 192.168.2.100 192.168.2.10 SMB SMB: C; Tree Connect Andx, Path = \\SVR001\IPC$, Service = ?????
13:16:27.023 24.484375 192.168.2.10 192.168.2.100 SMB SMB: R; Tree Connect Andx, Service = IPC
13:16:27.023 24.484375 192.168.2.100 192.168.2.10 DFS DFS
13:16:27.039 24.500000 192.168.2.10 192.168.2.100 SMB SMB: R; Transact2, Open2 - NT Status: System - Error, Code = (549) STATUS_NOT_FOUND
13:16:27.039 24.500000 192.168.2.100 192.168.2.10 SMB SMB: C; Nt Create Andx, FileName = \srvsvc
13:16:27.039 24.500000 192.168.2.10 192.168.2.100 SMB SMB: R; Nt Create Andx, FID = 0x4002
13:16:27.039 24.500000 192.168.2.100 192.168.2.10 MSRPC MSRPC: c/o Bind: UUID{4B324FC8-1670-01D3-1278-5A47BF6EE188} Server Service Call=0x1 Assoc Grp=0x0 Xmit=0x10B8 Recv=0x10B8
13:16:27.039 24.500000 192.168.2.10 192.168.2.100 SMB SMB: R; Write Andx, FID = 0x0000, 72 bytes
13:16:27.039 24.500000 192.168.2.100 192.168.2.10 SMB SMB: C; Read Andx, FID = 0x4002, 1024 bytes at Offset 0CODE13:16:30.773 28.234375 192.168.2.100 192.168.2.10 SMB SMB: C; Nt Create Andx, FileName = \chrismorley\My Documents\new pos
13:16:30.773 28.234375 192.168.2.10 192.168.2.100 SMB SMB: R; Nt Create Andx - NT Status: System - Error, Code = (186) STATUS_FILE_IS_A_DIRECTORY
13:16:30.773 28.234375 192.168.2.100 192.168.2.10 SMB SMB: C; Nt Create Andx, FileName = \chrismorley\My Documents\new pos
13:16:30.773 28.234375 192.168.2.10 192.168.2.100 SMB SMB: R; Nt Create Andx - NT Status: System - Error, Code = (186) STATUS_FILE_IS_A_DIRECTORY
13:16:30.773 28.234375 192.168.2.100 192.168.2.10 SMB SMB: C; Nt Create Andx, FileName = \chrismorley\My Documents\new pos
13:16:30.773 28.234375 192.168.2.10 192.168.2.100 SMB SMB: R; Nt Create Andx - NT Status: System - Error, Code = (186) STATUS_FILE_IS_A_DIRECTORY
13:16:30.773 28.234375 192.168.2.100 192.168.2.10 SMB SMB: C; Transact2, Query Path Info, Query File Basic Info, Pattern = \chrismorley\My Documents\new pos
13:16:30.773 28.234375 192.168.2.10 192.168.2.100 SMB SMB: R; Transact2, Open2, FID = 0x0000
13:16:30.773 28.234375 192.168.2.100 192.168.2.10 SMB SMB: C; Transact2, Query Path Info, Query File Basic Info, Pattern = \chrismorley\My Documents\new pos
13:16:30.773 28.234375 192.168.2.10 192.168.2.100 SMB SMB: R; Transact2, Open2, FID = 0x0000
13:16:30.773 28.234375 192.168.2.100 192.168.2.10 SMB SMB: C; Nt Create Andx, FileName = \chrismorley\My Documents\new pos
13:16:30.789 28.250000 192.168.2.10 192.168.2.100 SMB SMB: R; Nt Create Andx, FID = 0xC001
13:16:30.789 28.250000 192.168.2.100 192.168.2.10 SMB SMB: C; Transact2, Query File Info, Query File Internal Info, FID = 0xC001
13:16:30.789 28.250000 192.168.2.10 192.168.2.100 SMB SMB: R; Transact2, Open2, FID = 0x0000
13:16:30.789 28.250000 192.168.2.100 192.168.2.10 SMB SMB: C; Transact2, Query File Info, Query File Basic Info, FID = 0xC001
13:16:30.789 28.250000 192.168.2.10 192.168.2.100 SMB SMB: R; Transact2, Open2, FID = 0x0000
13:16:30.789 28.250000 192.168.2.100 192.168.2.10 SMB SMB: C; Transact2, Query File Info, Query File Standard Info, FID = 0xC001
13:16:30.789 28.250000 192.168.2.10 192.168.2.100 SMB SMB: R; Transact2, Open2, FID = 0x0000
13:16:30.789 28.250000 192.168.2.100 192.168.2.10 SMB SMB: C; Transact2, Query File Info, Query File EA Info, FID = 0xC001
13:16:30.789 28.250000 192.168.2.10 192.168.2.100 SMB SMB: R; Transact2, Open2, FID = 0x0000
13:16:30.789 28.250000 192.168.2.100 192.168.2.10 SMB SMB: C; Nt Create Andx, FileName = \chrismorley\My Documents\new pos:{4c8cc155-6c1e-11d1-8e41-00c04fb9386d}:$DATA
13:16:30.789 28.250000 192.168.2.10 192.168.2.100 SMB SMB: R; Nt Create Andx - NT Status: System - Error, Code = (52) STATUS_OBJECT_NAME_NOT_FOUND
13:16:30.789 28.250000 192.168.2.100 192.168.2.10 SMB SMB: C; Nt Create Andx, FileName = \CHRISMORLEY\MY DOCUMENTS\NEW POS:{4c8cc155-6c1e-11d1-8e41-00c04fb9386d}:$DATA
13:16:30.789 28.250000 192.168.2.10 192.168.2.100 SMB SMB: R; Nt Create Andx - NT Status: System - Error, Code = (52) STATUS_OBJECT_NAME_NOT_FOUND
13:16:30.789 28.250000 192.168.2.100 192.168.2.10 SMB SMB: C; Nt Create Andx, FileName = \chrismorley\My Documents\new pos:SummaryInformation:$DATA
13:16:30.789 28.250000 192.168.2.10 192.168.2.100 SMB SMB: R; Nt Create Andx - NT Status: System - Error, Code = (52) STATUS_OBJECT_NAME_NOT_FOUND
13:16:30.789 28.250000 192.168.2.100 192.168.2.10 SMB SMB: C; Nt Create Andx, FileName = \CHRISMORLEY\MY DOCUMENTS\NEW POS:SummaryInformation:$DATA
13:16:30.789 28.250000 192.168.2.10 192.168.2.100 SMB SMB: R; Nt Create Andx - NT Status: System - Error, Code = (52) STATUS_OBJECT_NAME_NOT_FOUND
13:16:30.789 28.250000 192.168.2.100 192.168.2.10 SMB SMB: C; Nt Create Andx, FileName = \chrismorley\My Documents\new pos:Docf_SummaryInformation:$DATA
13:16:30.789 28.250000 192.168.2.10 192.168.2.100 SMB SMB: R; Nt Create Andx - NT Status: System - Error, Code = (52) STATUS_OBJECT_NAME_NOT_FOUND
13:16:30.789 28.250000 192.168.2.100 192.168.2.10 SMB SMB: C; Nt Create Andx, FileName = \CHRISMORLEY\MY DOCUMENTS\NEW POS:Docf_SummaryInformation:$DATA
13:16:30.789 28.250000 192.168.2.10 192.168.2.100 SMB SMB: R; Nt Create Andx - NT Status: System - Error, Code = (52) STATUS_OBJECT_NAME_NOT_FOUND
13:16:30.789 28.250000 192.168.2.100 192.168.2.10 SMB SMB: C; Nt Create Andx, FileName = \CHRISMORLEY\MY DOCUMENTS\NEW POS:SummaryInformation:$DATA
13:16:30.789 28.250000 192.168.2.10 192.168.2.100 SMB SMB: R; Nt Create Andx - NT Status: System - Error, Code = (52) STATUS_OBJECT_NAME_NOT_FOUND
13:16:30.789 28.250000 192.168.2.100 192.168.2.10 SMB SMB: C; Nt Create Andx, FileName = \CHRISMORLEY\MY DOCUMENTS\NEW POS:Docf_SummaryInformation:$DATA
13:16:30.789 28.250000 192.168.2.10 192.168.2.100 SMB SMB: R; Nt Create Andx - NT Status: System - Error, Code = (52) STATUS_OBJECT_NAME_NOT_FOUND
13:16:30.789 28.250000 192.168.2.100 192.168.2.10 SMB SMB: C; Nt Create Andx, FileName = \CHRISMORLEY\MY DOCUMENTS\NEW POS:SummaryInformation:$DATA
13:16:30.789 28.250000 192.168.2.10 192.168.2.100 SMB SMB: R; Nt Create Andx - NT Status: System - Error, Code = (52) STATUS_OBJECT_NAME_NOT_FOUND
13:16:30.789 28.250000 192.168.2.100 192.168.2.10 SMB SMB: C; Nt Create Andx, FileName = \CHRISMORLEY\MY DOCUMENTS\NEW POS:Docf_SummaryInformation:$DATA
13:16:30.789 28.250000 192.168.2.10 192.168.2.100 SMB SMB: R; Nt Create Andx - NT Status: System - Error, Code = (52) STATUS_OBJECT_NAME_NOT_FOUNDI made the following changes via group policy http://blogs.sepago.de/helge/2007/11/07/soup-up-your-terminal-server-optimizing-explorers-network-performance/ which bascially disable the following:
Key: HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\MRxSmb\Parameters
Value: InfoCacheLevel
Type: REG_DWORD
Data: 10 (hex)
Key: HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\Explorer
Value: NoRemoteRecursiveEvents
Type: REG_DWORD
Data: 1
Key: HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Session Manager
Value: SafeDllSearchMode
Type: REG_DWORD
Data: 1"
These changes seemed to have fixed the issues in XP and My Documents seem to open faster. My question is however should this not all work out of the box without me having to make any registry changes? I have really been struggeling with Redirected and offline folders with this setup for other 2 months it hasnt work as i expected.
Thanks so much for the reply, hopefully we can get to the bottom of this.
Chris
Hi, issuing the following commands:
netsh interface tcp set global autotuninglevel=disabled
netsh interface tcp set global autotuninglevel=normalAlong with the smb tweaks as pushed out via group policy seems to have improved the opening speed of the files under Vista. I am still monitoring this and if stable for a while longer i will consider this issue to be fixed. The adm template can be seen below for the registry tweaks:
Code Block;
; Created 2007-11-07 by Helge Klein
;;
; Machine settings
;
CLASS MACHINECATEGORY !!Optimization
CATEGORY !!ExplorerSMB
POLICY !!UseDesktopIniCache
EXPLAIN !!UseDesktopIniCache_Help
KEYNAME “SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\Explorer”
VALUENAME “UseDesktopIniCache”
VALUEON NUMERIC 1
VALUEOFF NUMERIC 0
END POLICYPOLICY !!NoRemoteRecursiveEvents
EXPLAIN !!NoRemoteRecursiveEvents_Help
KEYNAME “SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\Explorer”
VALUENAME “NoRemoteRecursiveEvents”
VALUEON NUMERIC 1
VALUEOFF NUMERIC 0
END POLICYPOLICY !!NoRemoteChangeNotify
EXPLAIN !!NoRemoteChangeNotify_Help
KEYNAME “SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\Explorer”
VALUENAME “NoRemoteChangeNotify”
VALUEON NUMERIC 1
VALUEOFF NUMERIC 0
END POLICYPOLICY !!NoDetailsThumbnailOnNetwork
EXPLAIN !!NoDetailsThumbnailOnNetwork_Help
KEYNAME “SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\Explorer”
VALUENAME “NoDetailsThumbnailOnNetwork”
VALUEON NUMERIC 1
VALUEOFF NUMERIC 0
END POLICYPOLICY !!InfoCacheLevel
EXPLAIN !!InfoCacheLevel_Help
KEYNAME “System\CurrentControlSet\Services\MRXSmb\Parameters”
VALUENAME “InfoCacheLevel”
VALUEON NUMERIC 16
VALUEOFF NUMERIC 1
END POLICYPOLICY !!SuppressionPolicy
EXPLAIN !!SuppressionPolicy_Help
KEYNAME “SOFTWARE\Classes\*\shellex\PropertySheetHandlers\CryptoSignMenu”
ACTIONLISTON
KEYNAME “SOFTWARE\Classes\*\shellex\PropertySheetHandlers\CryptoSignMenu”
VALUENAME “SuppressionPolicy”
VALUE NUMERIC 1048576
KEYNAME “SOFTWARE\Classes\*\shellex\PropertySheetHandlers\{3EA48300-8CF6-101B-84FB-666CCB9BCD32}”
VALUENAME “SuppressionPolicy”
VALUE NUMERIC 1048576
KEYNAME “SOFTWARE\Classes\*\shellex\PropertySheetHandlers\{883373C3-BF89-11D1-BE35-080036B11A03}”
VALUENAME “SuppressionPolicy”
VALUE NUMERIC 1048576
KEYNAME “SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\explorer\SCAPI”
VALUENAME “Flags”
VALUE NUMERIC 1051650
END ACTIONLISTON
ACTIONLISTOFF
KEYNAME “SOFTWARE\Classes\*\shellex\PropertySheetHandlers\CryptoSignMenu”
VALUENAME “SuppressionPolicy”
VALUE DELETE
KEYNAME “SOFTWARE\Classes\*\shellex\PropertySheetHandlers\{3EA48300-8CF6-101B-84FB-666CCB9BCD32}”
VALUENAME “SuppressionPolicy”
VALUE DELETE
KEYNAME “SOFTWARE\Classes\*\shellex\PropertySheetHandlers\{883373C3-BF89-11D1-BE35-080036B11A03}”
VALUENAME “SuppressionPolicy”
VALUE DELETE
KEYNAME “SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\explorer\SCAPI”
VALUENAME “Flags”
VALUE DELETE
END ACTIONLISTOFF
END POLICYPOLICY !!SafeDllSearchMode
EXPLAIN !!SafeDllSearchMode_Help
KEYNAME “System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Session Manager”
VALUENAME “SafeDllSearchMode”
VALUEON NUMERIC 1
VALUEOFF NUMERIC 0
END POLICYPOLICY !!SafeProcessSearchMode
EXPLAIN !!SafeProcessSearchMode_Help
KEYNAME “System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Session Manager”
VALUENAME “SafeProcessSearchMode”
VALUEON NUMERIC 1
VALUEOFF NUMERIC 0
END POLICYEND CATEGORY
END CATEGORY
;
; User settings
;
CLASS USERCATEGORY !!Optimization
CATEGORY !!ExplorerSMB
POLICY !!NoRemoteRecursiveEvents
EXPLAIN !!NoRemoteRecursiveEvents_Help
KEYNAME “SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\Explorer”
VALUENAME “NoRemoteRecursiveEvents”
VALUEON NUMERIC 1
VALUEOFF NUMERIC 0
END POLICYPOLICY !!NoRemoteChangeNotify
EXPLAIN !!NoRemoteChangeNotify_Help
KEYNAME “SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\Explorer”
VALUENAME “NoRemoteChangeNotify”
VALUEON NUMERIC 1
VALUEOFF NUMERIC 0
END POLICYPOLICY !!StartRunNoHOMEPATH
EXPLAIN !!StartRunNoHOMEPATH_Help
KEYNAME “SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\Explorer”
VALUENAME “StartRunNoHOMEPATH”
VALUEON NUMERIC 1
VALUEOFF NUMERIC 0
END POLICYPOLICY !!NoDetailsThumbnailOnNetwork
EXPLAIN !!NoDetailsThumbnailOnNetwork_Help
KEYNAME “SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\Explorer”
VALUENAME “NoDetailsThumbnailOnNetwork”
VALUEON NUMERIC 1
VALUEOFF NUMERIC 0
END POLICYEND CATEGORY
END CATEGORY
[strings]
Optimization=”Optimization”
ExplorerSMB=”Explorer Network Performance”UseDesktopIniCache=”Cache Desktop.ini”
UseDesktopIniCache_Help=”http://support.microsoft.com/kb/840309/EN-US”NoRemoteRecursiveEvents=”Disable Remote Recursive Events”
NoRemoteRecursiveEvents_Help=”http://support.microsoft.com/?scid=kb%3Ben-us%3B330929&x=9&y=10″NoRemoteChangeNotify=”Turn Off Directory Notification SMB Requests”
NoRemoteChangeNotify_Help=”http://support.microsoft.com/?scid=kb%3Ben-us%3B812669&x=14&y=12″StartRunNoHOMEPATH=”Do Not Search Home Folder First When a Program is Started From Start -> Run”
StartRunNoHOMEPATH_Help=”http://support.microsoft.com/?scid=kb%3Ben-us%3B264061&x=18&y=9″NoDetailsThumbnailOnNetwork=”Do Not Extract Details Thumbnails from Files Over the Network”
NoDetailsThumbnailOnNetwork_Help=”http://support.microsoft.com/?scid=kb%3Ben-us%3B830903&x=17&y=18″SuppressionPolicy=”Do Not Obtain Detailed File Information When Opening a File”
SuppressionPolicy_Help=”http://support.microsoft.com/kb/829700/EN-US”InfoCacheLevel=”Enable Caching of Path Information for all Files”
InfoCacheLevel_Help=”http://support.microsoft.com/kb/834350/EN-US”SafeDllSearchMode=”Do Not Search for DLLs in Home Folder First (W2k)”
SafeDllSearchMode_Help=”http://support.microsoft.com/kb/306850/EN-US”SafeProcessSearchMode=”Do Not Search for DLLs in Home Folder First (XP and W2k3)”
SafeProcessSearchMode_Help=”http://support.microsoft.com/?scid=kb%3Ben-us%3B905890&x=13&y=9″I am concerned however as to why these tweaks had to be made (netsh and registry changes) should it not be fast by default out of the box?
Many thanks,
Chris
Hi Chris,
I would like to apologize for the delay in responding to your post. Thank you for providing me with the useful information, and I appreciate the time and effort you invested on this issue.Please understand that this issue occurs only in some circumstances, such as certain old network device is not fully supported the new feature in Windows Vista. As a result, we need to change these settings to identify/resolve the issue.
In addition, regarding the Windows XP questions, I suggest submitting them to our Windows XP Newsgroup since the engineers there are specialized in this type of issues.
Windows XP Newsgroup
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/community/newsgroups/dgbrowser/en-us/default.mspx?dg=microsoft.public.windowsxp.generalThank you for your understanding and cooperation.
Sincerely,
Joson Zhou
Microsoft Online Community SupportHi, just to let you know the laptops in question are the latest HP models with business vista preloaded.
Thanks,
Chris
Hi Chris,
I understand the problematic computer is running Windows Vista. I provided the link for our Windows XP Newsgroup because I noticed that you have questions about Windows XP in the third post. Please ignore it if there is anything I misunderstood.
Have a nice day.
Sincerely,
Joson Zhou
Microsoft Online Community Support
Hi Joson,
I am facing the same problem as Chris for my Windows Vista Home Edition. This programme is installed in a Toshiba machine.
When I am trying to save file under all the MS Office application, (I always click "save as"), the system always seems to "hang" for about 30 sec before they allow me to select which folder I wan to save my file. This had caused alot of nuisance especially when i had chosen the folder and double click on it, the system hang for another 30 sec before i can go into the folder.
Please kindly advise what could be the possible reason for this, and how i can resolve this issue?
Thanks alot
Hi Jaslyn,
My problem turned out to be redirecting folders to a share on the one and only domain controller. Apparently DCs have different network file timeouts and is not recommended to use as file share.
I now use Windows 2008, and have virual machines under hyper-v one of which is a dc and other a file server vm. Speed is excellent (upto 500Mbit/sec) and no more hanging.
Hope this helps.
Regards,
Chris
- HI,
I'm facing the very much same problem as Chris, and I'll try today to use a non DC machine, can any one confirm that ????
Regards
Rani Shoura - Has anyone found a resolution to this? Having a similar issue but intermittently can't save to the desktop. A restart resolves it. The PC's are Vista Business with SP2. The server is a 2008 SBS Box, so its a DC, File Server and Exchange currently. I searched and haven't found anything on "Redirected Folders Can't Save to Desktop" or similar wording. Will be looking at event logs next time it happens but would like to see if anyone found a resolution to the slow save issue listed here - I think its related since we get the the Vista circle meaning wait (like the XP hour/minute glass) when trying to save often.
- Has anyone found a resolution to this? We too are having similar issues. New managed switches, no operating QOS, new servers, new NICs, the only thing that is old is the cabling which has been tested. With Wireshark, we see "Create Andx Resposne, FID: 0x000, Error: Status_Object_Name_Not_Found" a lot.
- Proposed As Answer byspock5 Wednesday, January 20, 2010 9:16 PM
- I have the similar problems with this configuration:
A pristine install of SBS 2008 Premium as DC, Exchange, file server with 8 gigs,. more than adequate cpu, running 2 x 500g drives on Intel matrix raid1 controller.
Only two users on the system both running Windows 7 Ultimate.
Issue is opening, saving Office files....system stalls anywhere from 15 seconds to 60+ seconds. Windows 7 reports that at app is "not responding" but the app eventually does.
Ken
- I had this issue on a HP Desktop. After uninstalling McAfee Internet Security and it fixed the problem completely. After installed Symantec Suite the issue did not reappear.
- Proposed As Answer byspock5 Wednesday, January 20, 2010 9:21 PM
