ATI video drivers will not load properly (code 43)
- I have an ATI X700 video card.
Vista installed no problem, however I am having major problems with my video card.
I downloaded the ATI vista beta drivers and they installed properly, however after reboot the addapter does not start properly and only the Vgasave drivers load.
Could somebody please help me with this problem, none of vista's nice visual effects work and my dual monitors are useless now.
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Same problem, but with a 9800 pro here. Allegedly RC1 compat drivers on ATI's site state no hardware found.
Anyone?
Please report these issues to Ati, as this has not really to do with Vista-Setup
Nor Microsoft can help you with that, because it is third-party related .See my Links below
Also see on Ati's site that they "provide these drivers AS IS without warranty and without support".
A lot of people seem to have problems with these drivers, but it is definately not Vista's fault, because those Drivers from nvidia for example are full working ( for me ) and installation went as fine as could be.
What I know is that in Ati's drivers full opengl is NOT enabled or present - and that is a major issue.
Some people had success by installing the Full Package ( containg 32 and 64s drivers in one setup-pack) rather than the solely platform drivers. Try it. Also do not be confused by installing accidently Drivers for Vista Beta2 - they wont function on RC1.
Remember : all drivers ( no matter from whom ) at this point today are BETA - time will tell and bring better ones, believe it.
SBJ
List of supported Cards with the RC1 drivers :
https://support.ati.com/ics/support/default.asp?deptID=894&task=knowledge&questionID=19933
Program to report issues with these drivers :
https://support.ati.com/ics/support/kbAnswer.asp?questionID=1713
Ati's Windows Vista Knowledgebase :
https://support.ati.com/ics/support/default.asp?deptID=894&task=knowledge&questionID=19933
I understood that (manage a support team for a leading UK PC manufacturer). My response was more of a passing comment to the OP.
That said the problem I have is actually with Vista's support of the older nForce2 chipset which appears to have led to VGASAVE being used. And it is that I beleive is preventing the ATI drivers from picking up the installed card.
I've tried variations permutations of both the vista compliant and unofficial beta drivers for nForce2, as well as XP specific drivers with no luck. I currently have a BIOS flash on the cards for later today to see if that helps.
Tenaka
p.s. problem reported to ATI already although before I picked up on the VGASAVE aspect so I am expecting a reply from them, if any, along those lines.
Apparently, both the ATi and WDM drivers are the same. The problem is a basic incompatibility between the ATi/nVidia drivers and dual-core CPUs. As a workaround, you can limit startup to one CPU with EasyBCD or VistaBootPro.
- Ok so what will help my code 43 error, i am running single core 478 intel pentium 4?
Hi at All,
for those who have problems loading the ATI-drivers for Vista RC1, open the device manager, select computer and change the driver from "acpi x86..." to "acpi pc" by selecting "change/update driver" and "let me choose from a list".
I tried the whole last night to get this driver up and running (even the wddm drivers from microsoft will load with error code 43) and this was the solution that worked for me. Afterwards i could load the ATI-Driver using the device manager, the install tool still did not work but that looks like it's ATI's fault.
Give it a try, maybe it works for you, too :)
Greetz Mitsch
- Hi Mitsch,
After that change and a reboot, it stated it need to reboot once more, then after that it seemed like the ATI card was detected and drivers that were already there were then loaded. A reboot was required to complete this. On reboot I'm back to using VGASAVE as a video device, and here is no reference to a display driver against which I can update the driver.
In fact I cannot now find VGASAVE listed in Device Manager at all.
Back to the drawing board for me. - I have just tried this and no joy, I have also noticed there is no AGP slot listed in my device manager so it clearly is not installed and not working, could this be what is causing the code 43 error, if it is, is there any ATI chipset drivers for my agp slot?
I think I found the problem and this is what I did in order to get it to work
1. Uninstalled existing ATI drivers if you tried to install them and you were not successful ( I tried to install it multiple times unsuccessful )
2. Download EasyBCD and install it
a) Under "Advanced Options" check "Allow unsigned driver installation on Vista X Edition" ( this should not be needed as drivers are signed but I did it anyways)
b) Under "Advanced Options" again. Limit Windows to "1" CPU's ( if I leave this field blank or enable both of my CPU's on my AMD X2 then my Graphic card STOPPED working and I get "Code 43"
c) Apply settings and reboot reboot
3. Download drivers from www.ati.com
4. Right click on the setup file that you downloaded from ATI (e.g, ati_catalyst_rc1_vista_xxbit) and select properties.
a) Click on the "Compatibility" tab and check "Run this program in compatibility mode for windows XP SP2" and check "Run this program as an administrator"
b) Install the drivers and you should be set.I think the source of the problem was step 2 (e.g multiple CPU's) after I disabled 1 my CPU's and installed the ATI driver then everything worked however I did all the above steps in order to get it to work.
Enjoy.. and let me know if it worked...
Are you able to go back to using both CPUs after this installation completes? Or is it a choice of 2 monitors vs. 2 CPUs?
vv
J.O.
- No, if I go back to two CPU's then I get Code 43 again.
I opened a bug on this subject, but it was resolved as "by design."
Why? Turns out that "you can't run two different IHV LDDM drivers" in one computer. So it looks like all of us with mixed video cards will have to change video hardware.
Apparently the Vista Upgrade Advisor folks are working on alerting users. I'm also pushing to get some better documentation for users so they can find out about this sooner rather than later.
vv
J.O.
None of the above has worked out for me.
I now get the ATI Catalyst Install Manager tell me it cannot find any installable products. And all the while VGASAVE is in charge.
I actually do not know what Jaime refers to regarding a mixed card, nor have I come accross the term IHVLDDM before.
Jaime,
Could you please explain a little more clearly what this means and what a "mixed" card is?
You seem to imply that a mixed card will never work with 2 processors/cores in Vista.
- I have just installed RC2 hoping that the code 43 error would be sorted but it has not!!
DaBully wrote: I have just installed RC2 hoping that the code 43 error would be sorted but it has not!!
You're using an AMD dual core? I had the same problem with my AMD dual core + ATi combo. A workaround was to go to Device Manager > Computer > and change the software driver to single core. It really sucks that Catalyst will not work unless i disable one of the CPU cores.
even if you're not using dual core this may work.- Nope, i'm using an Intel P4 single core and have tried what you are suggesting and it does not make any difference.
I've got the same issue. I've tried changing the computer to ACPI PC from x86 ACPI, but that didn't work. This is on a PC with an Athlon XP 2400 on a Foxconn mobo (SIS964 I beleive), and an ATI Radeon 9700 Pro (one built by ati). On previous tries, I installed the xp drivers for the mobo, agp, etc. from foxconn, but again, that didn't help. Next, I'm going to try the 32 and 64 package to see if that does it (somehow i doubt it will).
Thanks,
Ryan
I now get this message on start up, which is to do with the error 43. Can someone shed any light on this problem yet and a fix?
Thats the same error I get on Vista RC2 x64 edition :(
I have dual core 4200+ / 2GB ram / X800XTPE
- i used the omega drivers and it works almost perfect.
- I have just also noticed that if you go into the device manager and select veiw all hidden devices it is showing that the secondary disply for my GFX card is installed and working correctly, so why is the primary one not working?
Charest wrote: i used the omega drivers and it works almost perfect. What omega drivers? I just did a search and couldnt find any...
- http://www.omegadrivers.net/
- There are plenty of reports of XP drivers working in Vista (including the Omega drivers). Unfortunately, not being WDDM compliant, these will always disable Aero Glass (Flip3D). Also, for many people, they cause a BSOD at shut down.
- I tried installing the Omega drivers, and Vista crashed. Now I don't know how to get it working again. I cannot get it to go into format-menu and do a clean install. It just keeps rebooting and shutting down for security. Inserting the vista Rc1-disk does not make it ask me if I wish to re-install - even though I ask it to boot from DVD-drive. What can I do to re-install vista after a complete crash - where I cannot access windows at all (I can only access bios on setup).
Pinkerbellis
When Vista is about to boot, hit the F8 key on the keyboard to bring up the additional start-up options. Safe mode with networking should boot and then you can use the system restore feature to select a previous restore point that works.
ALL
I have a Sapphire Radeon 9600XT with 256MB DDR ram installed within the AGP slot of a GigaByte GA-7VAX motherboard with 1.5 GB of RAM and an AMD XP 3000+ 2.17Hz Processor.
Radeon 9600XT http://www.sapphiretech.com/en/products/graphics_specifications.php?gpid=49
Gigabyte GA-7VAX http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Support/Motherboard/BIOS_Model.aspx?ProductID=1392
I have been trying to understand what is the most likely cause of the error 43 as in my case: I have installed the latest RC1 graphic drivers from ATI dated 02/09/06 https://support.ati.com/ics/support/default.asp?deptID=894&task=knowledge&folderID=5712 and Vista then recognises my Display Adaptor as an ATI Radeon 96000 Series. (Primary display only?)
My current idea is to ensure that both the motherboard (AGP element) and graphics card bios are as up to date as possible. There does not seem to be a recent update for the motherboard but has anyone had any success updating the bios of a Radeon 9600XT as it seems a bios as recent as Aug 2006 is available? http://www.sapphiretech.com/en/support/drivers_viewlist.php
---edit--- My Graphic card is a Radeon Saphire Atlantis 9600XT PN 1024-JC29-1A-SA
The bios update above only appear to be for the following cards :-- 9600XT Atlantis PN 1024-HC19-3C-SA
- 9600XT Atlantis PN 1024-HC19-4C-SA
Been looking further into the issues surrounding "error 43" for my Radeon 9600 Display adaptor under Vista RC1 and now believe that have vgasave conflicts with the VIA CPU to AGP controller. i.e. vgasave, conflicting device settings (the only item confirming conflicts?)
- Input/Output Range 03B0 - 03BB used by: VIA CPU to AGP Controller
- Input/Output Range 03C0 - 03DF used by: VIA CPU to AGP Controller
- Memory Range 000A0000 - 000BFFFF used by: VIA CPU to AGP Controller
vgasave is a non-plug and play driver conflicting with the Via CPU to AGP controller which is a System Device? so as the CPU to AGP controller is not operating correctly, how in the world can my Radeon 9600XT display device sitting in the AGP slot get a look in?
I also notice that if I show hidden devices via the Device Manager, View option; I can see my Radeon Secondary Display Adaptor which is indicating that its operating with no errors?
What to do in what order to gradually clean up the mess?
---edit---Take the above with a pinch of salt as I cannot replicate the conflict after a re-boot?
I had same problem before but I found a solution.
1.Goes to Devices Manager -> System devices -> right click on "nForce AGP Host to PCI Bridge" or "PCI standard PCI-to-PCI Bridge" -> Uninstall,and then reboot IMMEDIATELY
2.press F8 in the boot-up screen to get in safe mode, checks if there is a secondary display adapter in Device Manager (my 9700 does). Nothing to modify but reboot again.
That works for me, hopes you too.
- I tried this, and it seemed to work, but ultimately didn't. I have a SiS chipset mobo, so I uninstalled the SiS to AGP driver, rebooted into safemode and windows found and successfully installed the new hardware, which was the 9700 secondary. I checked the device manager in safemode and it was showing both 9700 adapters as working properly without code 43 errors. But upon reboot, same-ole same-ole 43 error for the 9700 adapter. Oh well, check that trick off the voodoo list for my card.
There is a new articale on microsoft.com that explains WDDM drivers. This may explain some of the code 43 errors we are getting. I know it explains my problem. I have a Nvidia 7600GT in a PCIx16 slot and an ATI Radeon X1300 in the PCI slot. The ATI card is getting the code 43. According to Microsoft, you can't have 2 different cards running from different manufactures.
http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/device/display/multimonVista.mspx
OK in my case, Installing/updating the Catalyst Beta Driver for Windows Vista RTM drivers over the top of the Catalyst RC1 Drivers now means that my Radeon 9600 is correctly seen by Vista RC1 with no Error 43 :-)
I did not ignore the warning that these new RTM ATI graphics drivers should only be installed on Vista RC2 and above, I thought it worth the risk to try them.
It also seems that Aero Glass is working, after I turned it on :-) Although the 3D Flip effects are not? Need to do a little more digging.
---edit---OK, ATM I can get "3D Flip" effects to work if I use the task bar icon for switching between windows, (Close to start icon lower left corner) the Keyboard windows key + tab key, do not work for me?
So Radeon 9600 with 256Mb Ram in AGP slot of a Gigabyte motherboard is now working for me :-)
Vista_Mike wrote: OK in my case, Installing/updating the Catalyst Beta Driver for Windows Vista RTM drivers over the top of the Catalyst RC1 Drivers now means that my Radeon 9600 is correctly seen by Vista RC1 with no Error 43 :-)
I did not ignore the warning that these new RTM ATI graphics drivers should only be installed on Vista RC2 and above, I thought it worth the risk to try them.
It also seems that Aero Glass is working, after I turned it on :-) Although the 3D Flip effects are not? Need to do a little more digging.
---edit---OK, ATM I can get "3D Flip" effects to work if I use the task bar icon for switching between windows, (Close to start icon lower left corner) the Keyboard windows key + tab key, do not work for me?
So Radeon 9600 with 256Mb Ram in AGP slot of a Gigabyte motherboard is now working for me :-)
In my case the RTM Drivers doesn't help on Vista 64bit RC2.
I've an ATI Gigabyte 9600 Pro + nforce 3 mobo (MSI K8N Neo2 Platinum) + Athlon X2 4200+ + two Dell 2405FPW- Hey! thanks a lot for your help man. I was wondering; did you find a way to increase the display resolution? My display supports 1024x1280, however, I'm only able to go 1024x768.
I really need a way to go to that resolution. Btw, I tried powerstrip; didin't work.
Thanks again!,
Mythoughts - I have the exact same problem, im running an AMD XP2400 with 1gb of ram and a soltech mobo. i get code 43 one the primary display but the secondary works fine? id really like to get this working.
- this worked for me; however I'd like my 2nd core to work! anyone try switching back to ACPI x86 with any success or come across a real solution? If its an ATI issue I certainly hope it can be fixed soon.
Has anyone had any success in getting their ATI graphics cards functioning correctly with a dual core processor? Or is there an ETA on a fix from NVidia (AMD pass the responsibility to NVidia according to this page https://support.ati.com/ics/support/KBAnswer.asp?questionID=24498)
I don't really see disabling one of my cores as a solution!!
I have an AGP X1950 Pro, K8N Neo2 Platinum NF3 mother board and a brand shiny new 4600+ X2 that I'm a bit miffed is causing issues!
Cheers
- I just wanted to echo using a RTM version of Vista that my ATI 9600 video card did not work, but that switching to single core using EasyBCD resolved that part of the problem. I will take screen resolution over CPU speed right now, but I will be watching the ATI website for newer drivers than the Nov 2 versions, and try them as soon as they come out.
- I can confirm the same on my system, including the secondary display adaptor operating with no errors. Nothing happens if I disable the primary adaptor.
Input/Output Range 03B0 - 03BB used by:
NVIDIA nForce3 250 AGP Host to PCI Bridge
Input/Output Range 03C0 - 03DF used by:
NVIDIA nForce3 250 AGP Host to PCI Bridge
Memory Range 000A0000 - 000BFFFF used by:
NVIDIA nForce3 250 AGP Host to PCI Bridge
I have an Ati radeon 9700 pro and an Opteron 165.
Everything boots fine if I disable one core. I see that ATI has a new driver. I read the release notes and no mention of code 43 grrrrrrrr
- Makes sense since they claim the responsability comes from NVidia and the Nforce3 drivers.
Finally got my Ati radeon to work with Vista RTM
Mobo: Syntax S648
Processor: intel Pentium 4 2.4ghz
Video Card: Ati Radeon 9600SE
Was getting the code 43 error like everyone else.
Tried all of the following suggestions:
- Use Acpi-pc instead of Acpi-x86 (although only have one processor)
- Lower Agp Apeture to 64 (seen this suggestion somewhere didnt work)
- ATI Beta RTM drivers, Omega XP drivers, Vista WDDM drivers
Finally decided to look through all device in Device Manager (including hidden)
Seen my Sis agp device checked to see if it had the lastest driver it didnt so i updated to lastet version (7.2.0.1230 ), but did not reboot yet. Decided that there might be a conflict with Vista automatically uninstalling vgasave to let the WDDM drivers take over(not a hardware guru so dont know if thats even possible, just an idea), so uninstalled that. Then rebooted. After loging in launched Device manager seen no conflicts with anything, went into display properties and behold it lists Ati 9600se device driver. So that worked for me.
Other settings in computer, Bios Agp Apeture: 256, Still with Computer set to ACPI-PC will try ACPI-X86 after this, dont know even if it works if it will help people with dual cores.
- haha just noticed the error code is 43 and my post was 43 lol hmmm coincedences are cool lol.
- I just recently reloaded RC1. It has been about 2 months since I last attempted to get my graphics card working. Anyways, upon installtion completion, Vista had several updates for me to install. There was a SiS AGP driver dated 12/14/2006. After I installed that driver, everything worked just fine. Looks like one of my earlier guesses was right, at least in my situation. I now type to you from my second monitor with my main being at 1440x900 and Minesweeper working just fine.
- Any news on a similar upgraded driver from AMD? I'm tired of going single core or what I'm doing now, which is to boot back into XP.
Its not AMD's problem I don't believe - it's nVidia's. And according to an e-mail I received from their customer services people they are supposed to be releasing new nForce drivers with the consumer release of Vista (30th I believe?).
However they neither confirmed nor denied that they were the source of the problems and whether this new driver release will resolve issues. Time will tell I guess!
The info I have from Nvidia is that they will release new Vista 64 drivers and Vista x86 when the final OS is released. I asked a specific question about x86. The answer I got was 'Yes, there will be Vista x86 drivers as it is in the final operating system and will not be available seperately.'
Since I am using the final (RTM) release from MSDN, I take this to mean there will be no new drivers for x86 beyond those already in RTM. Since these do not solve the Code 43 problem with my ATI 9800xt card, I don't expect anything to change soon.
I tried a Nvidia card so as to get round the conflict. No Code 43!! However in dual core it crashes when doing graphical activities (encoding, playing DVDs, etc). No problem in single core.
So, what did I do? Replaced with ULi based board which, as has been noted here somewhere, already has a fix for the AGP problem.
I guess this is particularly frustrating because Nvidia still advertise Nforce3 based MCPs as suitable for Vista on their website - http://www.nvidia.com/page/nf3.html
Roger
hm,I have the same problems...I have radeon 9800XT and amd dual core. Few days ago i have installed vista ultimate, where was all ok (just one problem was, the agp port was disabled, when I have enabled it and installed ati drivers with file name catalyst_8-31-100_vista32_rc2.exe it worked everything ok). Then I had some problems with computer and to test i installed vista business (I will go back on XP soon probably). In this bussines version are problems. System recognize driver, in device manager says Radeon 9800XT but with yellow exclamation:
Windows has stopped this device because it has reported problems. (Code 43)
Click 'Check for solutions' to send data about this device to Microsoft and to see if there is a solution available.
It isn't matter if I install drivers by ATI, or if the windows find drivers on internet and install it. I tryed with catalyst_8-31-100-3-2-1_vista32_rtm.exe but it is the same...
why was this working under ultimate version?
I tried now with EasyBCD, and its working...
I've finally got it working!!!
I'm running an ati 9700 pro with the same problems as reported here. In the end the only thing that I had to do was update the AGP System Device (Device Manager -> System Devices). I have an ASUS motherboard yet ASUS didn't have any new Vista drivers for it, probably because it's a little dated. Anyway I resolved the problem by selecting "Update Driver Software..." from the shortcut menu of the AGP system device name (Mine was labelled as "SiS AGP"). I updated the driver by selecting the automatic search and simply rebooted.
Anyway I hope it works for the rest of you.
Updating the driver should work for those with SIS or ULi chipsets. This is why I changed to a ULi (M1695) motherboard. However Nvidia haven't as yet provided an updated AGP device driver that solves the problem, or at least not for Nforce3 motherboards.
Roger
So aparently those of us stuck with an AGP nforce3 board are f***** unless nvidia releases new drivers. (I am using the Vista final now, and there are still no new drivers :-/)
Has anyone found a way to go back to multicore cpu's after you switched from acpi x86 to acpi-pc?
Somehow I can't seem to get back to it.
Go into Microsoft System Configuration (I think it's called that). Go to start menu, type msconfig in the search box, it will appear in the search results.
Boot tab, Advanced Options, click Detect Hal.
Don't forget to to untick after you have changed back, otherwise it will keep detecting the Hal.
ShannonKnight wrote: So aparently those of us stuck with an AGP nforce3 board are f***** unless nvidia releases new drivers. (I am using the Vista final now, and there are still no new drivers :-/)
I'm wondering if there are additional drivers in the retail release than the November RTM package.
I tried installing RTM on an HP laptop in early December, but RTM didn't have all the drivers which made the experience less than what I expected.
HP released some new drivers in January, so I decided to give it another shot. The first Windows Update was a whopping 100MB including many new drivers. Needless to say, Vista is a LOT better with them.
I haven't seen an NVIDIA NF3 AGP fix on windows update and if it doesn't show up soon, it's very unlikely that I will be buying any NVIDIA based products for quite some time.
"Take care of your customers or someone else will."
- Well since I am using the retail release I can tell you that there are no new updates. (yet)
Welcome Back to NVIDIA Customer Care.
Garth, I understand the difficulties that you are currently facing. However, I would like to inform you that nforce3 is end of life product so we don't have any supported drivers for Windows Vista Operating System.
Regards,
NVIDIA Customer Care.Looks like I'm buying a new CROSSFIRE Motherboard and X1950 Video Card for my x2 CPU and 4GB of DDR1.
Oh yeah and nvidia just lost a customer.
Garth H wrote: Welcome Back to NVIDIA Customer Care.
Garth, I understand the difficulties that you are currently facing. However, I would like to inform you that nforce3 is end of life product so we don't have any supported drivers for Windows Vista Operating System.
Regards,
NVIDIA Customer Care.Looks like I'm buying a new CROSSFIRE Motherboard and X1950 Video Card for my x2 CPU and 4GB of DDR1.
Oh yeah and nvidia just lost a customer.
Oh great, that blows. So much for relying on the upgrade advisor. *grmpf* And I sure as hell don't want to spend alot of money for a new board and a new gfx card right now. :-/
- Argh! Man that is lame. I'd have to get a new vidcard with my mobo too as my current one is AGP.
I've got exactly the same error 43 on an ATI 9550, my MoBo is an Asrock with SiS Chipset, when I install the new SiS AGP driver they mess up my video and cause several reboot.
It was very very difficult for me to roll back the driver update (the video was visible only for few minutes/seconds) so I suggest to all people to apply this update only after a good backup of their system, cause this new driver can really harm your PC.
So actually new ATI driver and new SiS driver doesn't resolve my problem and I'm still stuck with error 43 :-(
Stefano
- Hi everbody,
installed by Vista Business a few days ago buzzing with excitement to see Aero - and now that code 43
. I tried everything suggested in this thread (and a few suggestions from other boards....) - nothing seems to help.
I've got an Intel Dualcore, ATI X1600 and a Asrock 775DualPro 880PT (VIA) mobo.
Ran windowsupdate - no driver udpates.... Updated every single driver I found manually, tried ACPI-PC (what for do I have a dualcore system??), tried VistaBoot. When searching for updated VIA drivers it says, they're already included in Vista.
Installed the latest ATI drivers. Nothing helps to get my system working properly. My primary 1600 won't work. Secondary works fine (at least thats what the device manager keeps telling me).
Booted my system with safe mode - no yellow exclamation near ATI.... Booted Vista normally - there it is again.
So I installed the CCC and the drivers (via the device manager) seperatly. Now CCC tells me, it could
a) not found any hardware to support or
b) not be installed on this platform (funny, eh? downloaded the latest ccc-final from ATI- made for Vista 32bit)
But there's also another problem coming up when trying to install the ATI drivers: my WLAN-card (Marvel Libertas 802.11b/g) won't work as long as the Vista-included drivers are used... Tried to deactive my wlan-card, installed the ati-driver again - nothing's changing.
Update: After reinstalling Vista, i tried to run Windowsupdate. Got a ati-driver-update, downloaded and installed it, rebootet. And now, it really gets strange. Windowsupdate tells me, the installation was successfull. Had a look at my device manager. Driver date: 08/24/06 (not the 01/25/07 from windowsupdate), yellow exclamation. AND: My 2nd CPU is _vanished_. WEll, it's still there under Device Manager/Processors, but task manager only shows one cpu....
I'm really confused now...
Maybe one of you can help me
Greets & thx in advance,
Sho Thats really strange. Check under devices if there is apci-pc or apci x86. If it is APCI-Pc do this:
Go into Microsoft System Configuration (I think it's called that). Go to start menu, type msconfig in the search box, it will appear in the search results.
Boot tab, Advanced Options, click Detect Hal.
Don't forget to to untick after you have changed back, otherwise it will keep detecting the Hal.
Go into Microsoft System Configuration (I think it's called that). Go to start menu, type msconfig in the search box, it will appear in the search results.
Boot tab, Advanced Options, click Detect Hal.
Don't forget to to untick after you have changed back, otherwise it will keep detecting the Hal.
N3M3515 wrote: I've finally got it working!!!
I'm running an ati 9700 pro with the same problems as reported here. In the end the only thing that I had to do was update the AGP System Device (Device Manager -> System Devices). I have an ASUS motherboard yet ASUS didn't have any new Vista drivers for it, probably because it's a little dated. Anyway I resolved the problem by selecting "Update Driver Software..." from the shortcut menu of the AGP system device name (Mine was labelled as "SiS AGP"). I updated the driver by selecting the automatic search and simply rebooted.
Anyway I hope it works for the rest of you.
Thank You! Thank You! Thank You!
I was having the exact same problem but I got my 9600XT to work after I read your post and did an automatic driver update on my NVIDIA nForce2 AGP Host to PCI Bridge.
Thank you very much, now the headache is gone.
ShannonKnight wrote: Thats really strange. Check under devices if there is apci-pc or apci x86. If it is APCI-Pc do this:
Go into Microsoft System Configuration (I think it's called that). Go to start menu, type msconfig in the search box, it will appear in the search results.
Boot tab, Advanced Options, click Detect Hal..
No, its ACPI x86. However, I tried "Detect HAL" - doesn't seem to change anything. Still only one CPU in Taskmanager. And still no working graphic card...Oh look, NVIDIA might have changed their mind. Too bad my new mobo and video card are due to show up today..
Hello Garth,
Your case is being escalated to our Level 2 Tech Support group. The Level 2 agents will review the case notes and may attempt to recreate your issue or find a workaround solution if possible. As this process may take some time we ask that you be patient and a Level 2 tech will contact you as soon they can to help resolve your issue.
Best Regards,
NVIDIA Customer Care- Excellent--please let us know how it goes.
- Link them to this page. So that they can see that really a few guys have the same problem with the same hardware. So it IS a driver problem.
Im also getting the same problem. No way to get rid of it.
My system is not dual-core. It´s just a normal laptop: Acer Aspire 1660 notebook, Pentium IV 2.8 Ghz Single Core, ATI Mobility Radeon 97000
Process:
I installed the new 7.1 Catalyst drivers successfully
After reboot, received the code 43 error.
Went to windows Update and installed an "Important Update" for the ATI Accelerated Graphics Port driver.
Rebooted and no difference. Still code 43.
Tryied to remove all ATI software: driver, control center, install manager, etc
Rebooted and system installed the default VGA driver
Went to Windows Update and installed an Important Update: "ATI Mobility Radeon 9700 Driver"
Installed successfully
Rebooted and STILL CODE 43
DAMNIT !
I think I´m going back to XP
Any help, please ?
- Im having this problem also,its a uli chipset problem,I installed a agp patch from asrock that fixes the problem but my hard drive is locking up by itself randomly which doenst happen with xp,anybody s hard drive locking up on them with vista business?Im probaly going to revert back to XP and wait out all the kinks in vista,hopefully it will be a better experience in a couple of months.
ASrock mobo 939 SATA2
AMD X2 3.8gig
ATI 9700pro
2gig ram I have posted two tickets to ATI for a solution.....no responce so far:
1. I'm having problems with the newest drivers(v.7.1) for Vista Enterprise. I uninstalled all ATI software per your install directions, installed .net framework 1.1, rebooted, then the system tells me that no graphics driver is installed or it's not functioning correctly. Device manager has two display adapters showing for some reason, one Radeon x1300Series with a yellow exclamation mark, it shows error code 43 in the properties. Then there is a 2nd adapter, Radeon x1300 Series Secondary, the properties for this one says it's working correctly. I omly have one monitor. I've tried uninstalling the adpters, reinstalling software after rebooting, still I end up with this same problem, no display adapter that works.....please help!
2. I still have this problem, error code 43 after installing the radeon X1300, and the ATI drivers. ATI has said to d/l drivers from the mainboard chipset manufacturer. My problem is that I have an ASUS P4R800-VM motherboard, which has a ATI RADEON 9100IGP / ATI IXP200 chipset. So I need drivers from ATI to fix this problem. If I install the mainboard drivers that came with the motherboard, I get a blue screen during reboot that says "Error message: STOP 0x000000EA THREAD_STUCK_IN_DEVICE_DRIVER". After rebooting into last known good configuration and then I install ATI's newest drivers, I still get the code 43 on the primary display adapter, the secondary adapter says its working properly. I am stuck with the VgaSave drivers.
I too am thinking about going back to XP!
ATI has this posted in their knowlege Base:
737-24498: Windows Vista: Code 43 Error in Device Manager in Systems with ATI AGP Cards and Nforce3 Chipset Motherboards
- The information in this article applies to the following configuration(s):
- Windows Vista 32 or 64 bit
- Catalyst Display Driver 7.1 for Vista
- Radeon® X1950 AGP series
- Radeon® X1600 AGP series
- Radeon® X1300 AGP series
- Radeon® X850 series
- Radeon® X800 series
- Radeon® X700 series
- Radeon® X600 series
- Radeon® X550 series
- Radeon® X300 series
- Radeon® 9800 series
- Radeon® 9700 series
- Radeon® 9650/9600 series
- Radeon® 9550/9500 series
Symptoms
Attempting to install the graphics driver on a system containing an NVidia NF3 chipset and an ATI AGP graphics adapter may result in the driver failing to install and the 3D engine not activating.In Windows Vista 32bit or 64bit versions, the Device Manager will show a (!) mark and the AGP card will operate in PCI mode only. When the properties of the device are shown, the error code will show as code 43.
This issue has been seen with other AGP chipsets such as VIA and SiS but has since been resolved by chipset driver updates from these manufacturers.
AMD’s AGP adapters require correctly functioning AGP support from the operating system in order to run the WDDM driver under Vista. This WDDM driver has no way of working around the absence of AGP support.
Solution
Please contact NVidia Corp. (www.nvidia.com) for more information on this issue.
Hope this helps somebody, it was of no use for me.....I have a ATI chipset on the MB......duhh......their drivers don't even work on their on chipsets!
We all may be screwed!
Same problem. Radeon 9600 + Sis chipset = Error 43
But my MoBo with Sis756 chipset and VISTA. When i installing a new "SiS AGP to CPU" drivers from MS Update and restarting my notebook (Radeon9600 - Asus A2D series notebook), he is not starting. Vista is loading up and when green line is disapiearing, an LCD display turning OFF and what's all. PC freezing.
In safe mode vista has started, but in normal mode - no (with new "sis agp to cpu" driver). when i removing new "sis cpu to agp" driver, or changing them back to old (wich have been preinstalled with vista) - problem has same - error 43 with my vga. :( Or if i removing ati VGA drivers (or changing them to "standart vga adapter") with new "sis agp to cpu" driver installed (in safe mode), vista starting up, detecting my radeon9600, installing drivers and after restart - black, disabled screen and no responding for caps lock or num lock buttons. :(
Like i see, new chipset drivers nothing changed. :D
- I also had this problem with my P4R800-VM. I have not got the Vista drivers working, but I did find a workaround. Install the AGT GART driver and the driver software (but not the control panel, it wont work in vista) from the CD that came with the motherboard, and reboot. This gets the card working properly, although it's not a perfect solution, as those drivers are pretty old now. I now have both monitors on my 9800se working properly though.
EDIT: I forgot to note: You will have to run the asus setup utility in XP compatibility mode or it wont load. - Did your problem looks like disabled screen? When vista loading, and a running green line disapearing, my laptop screen has disabling (looks like chganging screen resolution - flickering) and hdd activity led stoping to flisckering. But this problem start to pissing me only when i downloading sis agp driver from windows update page. with default windows driver i have only error 43. :) Also whis problem disapearing when removing vga driver or changing whem to standart vga adapter. but starting to anoyng me, when ati drivers also have been installed. damn'ed sis chipset. :(
It is a problem with the nvidia chipsets on motherboards. It is more evident with an ATI video card and nvidia motherboard. The real problem is nvidia is not saying anything about it---like "we are looking in to it or anything"....With a different chipset for the motherboard like sis or via the problem has went away because those companies have done something about it.
The really bad news is that some major computer hardware distributers stopped using nvidia chipset motherboards and my video card is worth more than the motherboard. Consider the problem terminal and will not go away...you will have to make a decision: 1. change the video card 2. change the motherboard 3. do nothing (and hope)
ATI has this posted in their knowlege Base:
737-24498: Windows Vista: Code 43 Error in Device Manager in Systems with ATI AGP Cards and Nforce3 Chipset Motherboards
- The information in this article applies to the following configuration(s):
- Windows Vista 32 or 64 bit
- Catalyst Display Driver 7.1 for Vista
- Radeon® X1950 AGP series
- Radeon® X1600 AGP series
- Radeon® X1300 AGP series
- Radeon® X850 series
- Radeon® X800 series
- Radeon® X700 series
- Radeon® X600 series
- Radeon® X550 series
- Radeon® X300 series
- Radeon® 9800 series
- Radeon® 9700 series
- Radeon® 9650/9600 series
- Radeon® 9550/9500 series
Symptoms
Attempting to install the graphics driver on a system containing an NVidia NF3 chipset and an ATI AGP graphics adapter may result in the driver failing to install and the 3D engine not activating.In Windows Vista 32bit or 64bit versions, the Device Manager will show a (!) mark and the AGP card will operate in PCI mode only. When the properties of the device are shown, the error code will show as code 43.
This issue has been seen with other AGP chipsets such as VIA and SiS but has since been resolved by chipset driver updates from these manufacturers.
AMD’s AGP adapters require correctly functioning AGP support from the operating system in order to run the WDDM driver under Vista. This WDDM driver has no way of working around the absence of AGP support.
Solution
Please contact NVidia Corp. (www.nvidia.com) for more information on this issue. (there is none)- I have a x850 xt pe on a asus p4c800-e board which uses an Intel chip, and I am having the same problem..
Hi! I've got a HP Pavilion zx5000 notebook with ATI Radeon 9600 on board. According to CPU-Z utility, it has ATI Radeon 9100 IGP chipset (with ATI IXP 200 southbridge). And I still got this 43 code issue! Now tell me it's not a ATI's problem?! Face it ATI - you just can't solve it now on your own, and blaim others. I think it's both - ATI's and Microsoft's problem! They released new OS without a proper hardware support, they had to work together on this! HP refused to support older models at all for Vista. All of it makes my notebook useless with Windows Vista, and makes me stuck with XP forever.
It's a shame, as hardware configuration of the notebook is still up to today's standards, and it's too early to drop it.
If someone has any more information on the case, please post here! Thank you!
Vlad.
- Totally agree. I also have the zx5000 which was an expensive machine and very capable for running today's applications. However, I had to go back to XP due to the code 43 error which I've been unable to resolve. It is clearly an ATI and Microsoft issue.
- I have a Toshiba P30 with 3.2Ghz P4 and with a Mobility Radeon 9700 and I too get the Code 43 error. It has an ATI RX330 chipset with ATI IXP 200 southbridge.
I have tried installing with HT turned off, changing to ACPI-PC, un-installing / reinstalling graphic card drivers and nothing worked using the vista supplied and the official ATI catalist 7.1.
Is there anything else I can try? This is a BIG problem.
After talking with admins and system builders across the globe they are saying the message that AMD and Nvidia are displaying is don't use me. Intel cpu's and motherboards are better and _______BHG (or fill in the blank) makes better video cards.
One mortage company admin was upset after reading about code 43 error they cancelled their order for 8000+ computer upgrades to vista until "AMD and Nvidia grow up I will use XP forever, this is silly...."
Will AMD and Nvidia's stock drop? What company wants to spend money on something that does not work.
If sis and via can fix the problem why not nvidia?
Send those video cards, motherboards and laptops back, demand your money back! Stating it does not conform to the correct AGP standards, or it does not work on my motherboard or it will not run vista even though you said it would.
Why pay for something that does not work? Check your warranty length--if it is 1 to 3 years rma it.
- but i have a sis chipset and problem still exists with new agp to cpu sis driver, downloaded after vista instalation from win update. fucking sis.com still no have vista drivers in his webpage :(
- I have also created an incident with nVidia that has been escalated to level 2 support.
I recommend that everyone with this issue do the same.
It only takes a minute and will create easy trends for their support management to prioritize.
Here's the URL to submit an incident:
http://nvidia.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/nvidia.cfg/php/enduser/ask.php?p_email=&p_sla=. Hi all, I've RESOLVED MY PROBLEM !!!!!!!
MoBo Asrock (an old K7s8x) with SiS chipset and ATI Radeon 9550. When I've installed the new SIS Accelerated Graphic Port driver they mess up my display. So I've rebooted my PC and started the BIOS setup. Inside I've disabled the "AGP Fast Write" setting, and after the reboot all my problem are gone.
No more error 43, Aero up and working, system performance jumped from 1 to 3.3
Hope this information helps someone !!!
Stefano
- I have a Radeon 9600 and had the same problem. Downloaded ATI/AMD drivers (18th Jan 2007 version) and tried this. Worked! Thanks.
- Question is, not "WHAT to disable", but "HOW to disable". :D I have notebook with SIS chipset and my BIOS settings are so poore. :D Only boot device priority, HDD/CDROM detection and few not important changes (disable/enable touchpad, password and so on). :( I think i try to disable AGP fast writes in XP's Catalyst Control Center (where is this feature), when remove drivers and after that install drivers back and will check agp fast writes will disabled or not.
- Now that I'v resolved my problem I should say that the support I received from my MoBo manufacturer was completely useless.Asrok says thefollowing:"According to the K7S8X spec, it could not support Windows Vista.
We do not recommend using the K7S8X with Windows Vista.
We do not guarantee the system compatibility and stability under Windows Vista, either.Please kindly refer product spec to install compaiant OS"Now if this is true Asrock should quickly says to Microsoft to upgrade Vista Advisor, since is not possible that MS tools says that my system is compliant and the HW manufacturer says it isn't.I think that the true answer from Asrock is that my MoBo is old and they don't plan to write driver for it; for sure when I'll buy a new MoBo I'm going to check for another vendor.Stefano Interesting different experiences aren't they. I had a problem with cool 'n' quiet on my Asrock 939Dual-Vsta, and though the response was slow they solved it for me, even though another person with the same board had had the response that it wasn't fully Vista compliant, therefore not supportedd on Vista
Not sure if the LAN port works yet since it didn't initially, and haven't had a go with raid yet. Other than that my ATI 9800 XT and Athlon64 x2 4200+ are running fine.
I often find going to the chipset manufacturers for drivers can be a good workaround. I enabled the SATAII port in SATA mode on the board this morning in preparation for a new hard disk. The PC hung after a while. However a look on the JMicron site revealed a driver that supports Vista, and is newer than the one delivered in Vista RTM, or on the Asrock CD. All is now fine.
What upset me in Asrock answer is that it came very fast. I mean, they answer my request in 9h, on sunday ! Probably they just read the version number and give the default "too old" answer.
Of course this is only my opinion, maybe I found a lazy helpdesker, but it's funny to find a solution to a problem meanwhile the product manufacturer says that it shouldn't work.
Stefano
- I opened a case...
I really think this is a problem microsoft should be patching. Seems to me like they have not fully supported AGP in the Vista Operating system. We should not have to disable Fast Write.. I have a ASUS P4R800-V Deluxe motherboard. I am using an external video card. An ATI X800 Pro AGP8X 256MB. I have 1 gig of PC3200 Ram in Dual channel DDR400 configuration. I have an Intel Pentium 3.2Ghz Prescott CPU. An earlier implementation of Dual core. With Hyper Threading Enabled. I use my computer as a home theater PC. I have it hooked up to a 50" Hitatchi Ultravision and run 720P and 1080i resolutions through DVI. Right now I've got icons measuring 6" x 6" on my screen and can only get 640 x 480 as this is all the display is capable of other than 1080i and 720p.
I need to be able to disable Fast Write even as temporary solution. If anybody out there has a similar motherboard and Video Card running. Please give some suggestions here. I really do think that Microsoft should be patching this. And they really should be patching this soon.
I totaly agree. Microsoft should be patching this; I downloaded the SIS AGP accelerator update by Windows Update. After installing and restarting vista won't start anymore: blank screen. When I rollback the update in Save Mode, vista starts normaly but again with code 43
I have a similar mb (its an Asus Barebone) with the same problem. The grafic card work fine but the drivers are not wddm. they are the old driver for win xp. So i cannot use Aero interface. I have send a mail to Ati but i think that we must send a mail to Asus too. The problem seem to be the Gart driver: there is a conflict with internal grafic card Ati9100 and the wddm drivers of agp x1600pro.
If i'll receive any answer or solution from Ati i post it in this topics.
- I have the same problem. After instaliation of updated SIS CPU to AGP driver, got blank screen when loading vista in normal mode. And what is your PC configuration, or laptop model? My is Asus A2D.
Isotoxin wrote: I have the same problem. After instaliation of updated SIS CPU to AGP driver, got blank screen when loading vista in normal mode. And what is your PC configuration, or laptop model? My is Asus A2D. Also a Asus A2d, AMD M 3000+ Processor with 1Gig memory, Ati mobility radeon 9600 pro.
The Ati card is listed as supported by Vista. Curious detail is that Asus "Recommends Vista Business" on their site. Also on their A2d/dc page
- I have an nforce3 based mb, and I got an AGP ATI X850xt, AMD X2 4400, and I keep getting the 43 code no matter what I tried to do , unless I disabled one of the cores using EasyBCD, then everything is fine and I can even load Aero. but this can't be under any circumstance a final solution to this problem, I want to be able to use both cores on my computer.Microsoft says it's a problem with the drivers, ATI is saying their drivers are fine, and that it's nvidia's chipset drivers that are causing the problem, and of course nvidia is saying they won't be releasing any driver updates for the nforce3 chipset, not one company is willing to take the blame, and I am so sure that the compatability test I did on my computer previously did not show any errors, except for my sound card , but I'm still waiting for drivers for that one. All the *** nvidia has on their website about nforce3 being forward and backward compatible is a fraud, and they certainly don't live up to it. if anyone has an updated solution to this problem, please post it in this forum, I will do the same.
i have officially joined the world of....
Windows has stopped this device because it has reported problems. (Code 43)
Click 'Check for solutions' to send data about this device to Microsoft and to see if there is a solution available.
I have a Pentium dual core Pc this a Radeon Xpress 200 series graphics card...and a very annoying little exclamation mark....
Any ideas... as most of you i have scanned the net for solutions but come up with ... not alot
- I mailed nvidia as it seems to me that they are currently best placed to resolve this. I shall not be changing my ati to nvidia to resolve it for me. I'd rather not give money to a company that has this gaping hole :-( I'm unhappy with nvidia on this one.
I agree about sending a mail to Asus. They Need to release a new driver sets that are Vista Compatible. I hear about people having problems with Sata and surround view and I just think why in the hell did this not get solved during the Beta testing. They had this OS in Beta testing for almost three years prior to release. It just makes you want to give your head a shake.
Anyways, I'm trying out the Asus forums. They have a separate forum for every device they're branding as their own. I suggest that everybody with Asus product go and leave numerous posts on their forums site demanding Vista drivers. I'm sure if we all make enough noise, their gonna listen to us and react to this situation. Hopefully a little faster than they are now.
I know the problem has something to do with the AGP GART. Here is the link to the Asus Forum Site. http://vip.asus.com/forum
I think this might be a helpful way to get this problem resolved. And believe you me, I want to get this resolved ASAP. I'm getting tired of the 6" x 6" icons on my screen.
By the way, Has anybody got a way to disable Fast Write on an ATI X800 Pro AGP8X card in a ASUS P4R800-V Deluxe Motherboard? Still waiting for a post on that one. Pleaseeeeeee.
- I agree that we should contact Asus. They have a forums site http://vip.asus.com/forum . They have a forum for every product they are branding as their own. Anybody with Asus product. Go there and leave lots of Posts.
- I just applied a technical inquiry on the asus website. I'll keep you informed on this forum. I suggest other Asus customers do the same.
I get the same issue with my ATI 9100igp mobo and a ATI 9600XT AIW. It's not just the NVIDIA chipsets!
Anyone else having problems with older ati hardware?
- its a shame these ppl cant figure out their own software :P, im going back to XP
- I also have a HP zx5000 with the ATI Mobility Radeon 9600. I have had the same issues since the early betas (code 43, some beta drivers code 10). This has been very frustrating and when I do buy a new laptop I'll make sure to get an Nvidia graphics chipset. I really do not want to give up my 3.06 P4 beast just for Vista.
- I have also logged a call with ATI regarding my 9100 IGP mobo and my 9600XT radeon card. Will let you know how I get on.
- I finally got a response from nVidia on my issue that was supposedly escalated to Level 2 support. I'm not sure why it takes Level 2 to "weed" out a request such as mine. I'm not feeling hopefull.
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Hello ,
This support website is designed to support NVIDIA direct sales products, such as the NVIDIA DualTV tuner card and the NVIDIA PureVideo DVD Decoder. We also address Presales questions about NVIDIA based products and technology. We can try to help with general issues or point you in the right direction but cannot fix all issues beyond the scope of our support.
I'm sorry but we will not be able to address or fix the problem you cite via this forum. We will forward this information to individuals who can investigate the issue. However, we will not be able to provide you feedback on their findings at this time.
Best regards,
NVIDIA
------------- - i had the same code 43 issue w/ both the geforce 7900 gs and the radeon x1950 pro. if you want your cards to work, your best bet is to revert to XP utnil these problems are corrected. calling support lines for the cards will probably be just a waste of your time. XP FTW.
Hey all,
My problem when I start vista is that i get a message, without no system 43 error, that just says: "registry files not found" . So basically thats my problem, and I'm sure it's connected to this error. I also have an older motherboard and single core intel pentium 4 2.5 ghz processor.
If anyone knows how to fix this, please let me know asap. Thank you in advance.
ps: tried many of the options above, that some persons posted, but none of those worked.
I am a little concerned as disabling a core does not work for me. I have code 43 with a Radeon x1600 PCI-express card, not an AGP one. Reading this issue seems to suggest that the problem is an AGP one. What can I do to solve it with a PCi-express card?
I have an abit KN9S board with Nforce 550 (just insalled the latest drivers) and an AMD x2 4200
I wonder if uninstalling and removing my radeon x1300 agp, then reinstalling vista, install the ati drivers, use windows update manually, then manually update anything that's not working in the device manager and point them to the ASUS mb CD......hopefully getting everything on the mb working correctly....then installing the x1300 agp card and see if I still get the error code 43.
Has anyone tried this sequence? I think"m gonna try it this weekend maybe....
- Yeah, I tried. It was the only way I could even install Vista because it just kept on locking the computer up solid. I did that. Even with the mobo video only, you still get the error. Try it anyways, If it didn't work for me, that does not necessaryily mean it won't work for you.
- Anybody find these helpful? Use at your own risk. http://www.ngohq.com/showthread.php?t=8930
edit: asus 'leaked' ati drivers... (i just found the site, not the leak ) - I also got a zx5000 laptop that has the same error43 wtf. It's a great laptop and not being able tu use Vista on it. The best option is going back to XP until they fix all the BS on Vista.
I received the following reply from Asus:
Dear customer,
Not all the Vista drivers are available yet. They will be soon. If they come out you can download them from http://support.asus.com
Kind regards,
Asus Support Team- Somehow i dont want to trust this asus words. whei can't release new versions of drivers for a2d notebooks on winxp, and why they shuld release drivers for vista?
Isotoxin wrote: Somehow i dont want to trust this asus words. whei can't release new versions of drivers for a2d notebooks on winxp, and why they shuld release drivers for vista? There are decent XP drivers on their site. In my opinion there is no need to release newer xp drivers. 'If it ain't broke, don't fix it'
Although I think they have had enough time to develop/test vista drivers and release them on time.
Well, I'll give it a change and wait...- I just got the same thing. :(
reyonman wrote: I finally got a response from nVidia on my issue that was supposedly escalated to Level 2 support. I'm not sure why it takes Level 2 to "weed" out a request such as mine. I'm not feeling hopefull.
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Hello ,
This support website is designed to support NVIDIA direct sales products, such as the ... SIS released first VGA driver for vista. It's for VGA adapter, but when i downloadet driver and extracted them, i found a folder named AGP. :) Unfortunatley, i installed them but nothing changes. :D The same blank screen. :(
Probably the same SIS driver Microsoft used with the SIS AGP accelerator update
Causes the same blank screen when booting. Guess we'll have to wait till Asus release their version of the SIS AGP driversYou need an answer from nVidia 2nd level Support ??
Here is mine:Hello CPU whisperer,
I have expressed your concerns with our driver team. At this time however, there are no nForce3 chipset driver updates planned. If there are any changes, we will post the information on our support site at:
http://nvidia.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/nvidia.cfg/php/enduser/std_alp.php
Regards,
NVIDIA Customer Care
I asked them again, why VIA, ULI and SIS are possible to fix this bit nVidia not but ....
Regards
CPU w.Isotoxin wrote: SIS released first VGA driver for vista. It's for VGA adapter, but when i downloadet driver and extracted them, i found a folder named AGP. :) Unfortunatley, i installed them but nothing changes. :D The same blank screen. :(
SIS fixes this Problem over the MS Update procedure, there is normally nothing to install manually ....
(They update the AGP Part.)
Regards
CPU w.Hmmm... . And from where you have this information.
And second question - how i will know - when sis will release updated driver? :) Did i must to install vista ever week and check ms update? :D
1st: Google is your friend and when you read the threads from start, then .... ;):D
2nd: No, you need the installation only 1 time and the update is online, so you only need the MS update only 1 time too (for this case).
When this doesn´t fix your issue, then you have a different problem like this in this thread here ....
Regards
CPU w.- BTW: Why isnt´it possible in this forum software, that I will redirected to my post (or last page) after sending instead of the 1st page ??
Regards
CPU w. But how i will know WHEN will be ready NEW (not the first one from sis) update. :) What fixes my problem (blank screen).
Isotoxin wrote: But how i will know WHEN will be ready NEW (not the first one from sis) update. :) What fixes my problem (blank screen).
You just have to wait till Asus release their AGP drivers for your A2d notebook. We don't know when they release it.
Like I post before, Asus mailed me that the drivers will be distibuted on their website soon. So, yes, you have to check te Asus website periodically, to find out if the drivers are available yet. Asus just don't predict a release date.I got this quote from ATI also, and thought WTF!! I am not using an AGP card I am using a PCIE card on a motherboard (Intel 975xbx) that is supposed to work with their equipment, and I also have the latest Chipset installed, so obviously there is something else wrong. I took my card out for the umpteenth time, and looked for part#, codes etc. My card is an ATI X1600 pro PCIE, or at least that what the Computer manufacturer says it is. On my card there are a couple of stickers but the following numbers stood out to me "C3D-3049", I did a google search that took me to the following site www.connect3d.com , which is a ATI 3rd party vendor or something. Looked around their site got to their support forums, and found out that they have a problem with the BIOS that they installed on the card, here is the link http://connect3d-us.com/forums/showthread.php?t=16&page=3&pp=10 They have a fix which I downloaded ( Need to create a bootable Dos CD or Floppy ) and TaDa!!! no more Code 43 error, card works great now. Even though I am happy I got it working, I am PI#$ED that I had to go through so much trouble to get it working!!!! I really hope that this helps some of you out.
kirkdj wrote: ATI has this posted in their knowlege Base:
737-24498: Windows Vista: Code 43 Error in Device Manager in Systems with ATI AGP Cards and Nforce3 Chipset Motherboards
- The information in this article applies to the following configuration(s):
- Windows Vista 32 or 64 bit
- Catalyst Display Driver 7.1 for Vista
- Radeon® X1950 AGP series
- Radeon® X1600 AGP series
- Radeon® X1300 AGP series
- Radeon® X850 series
- Radeon® X800 series
- Radeon® X700 series
- Radeon® X600 series
- Radeon® X550 series
- Radeon® X300 series
- Radeon® 9800 series
- Radeon® 9700 series
- Radeon® 9650/9600 series
- Radeon® 9550/9500 series
Symptoms
Attempting to install the graphics driver on a system containing an NVidia NF3 chipset and an ATI AGP graphics adapter may result in the driver failing to install and the 3D engine not activating.In Windows Vista 32bit or 64bit versions, the Device Manager will show a (!) mark and the AGP card will operate in PCI mode only. When the properties of the device are shown, the error code will show as code 43.
This issue has been seen with other AGP chipsets such as VIA and SiS but has since been resolved by chipset driver updates from these manufacturers.
AMD’s AGP adapters require correctly functioning AGP support from the operating system in order to run the WDDM driver under Vista. This WDDM driver has no way of working around the absence of AGP support.
Solution
Please contact NVidia Corp. (www.nvidia.com) for more information on this issue.
Hope this helps somebody, it was of no use for me.....I have a ATI chipset on the MB......duhh......their drivers don't even work on their on chipsets!
We all may be screwed!
sidders wrote: I am a little concerned as disabling a core does not work for me. I have code 43 with a Radeon x1600 PCI-express card, not an AGP one. Reading this issue seems to suggest that the problem is an AGP one. What can I do to solve it with a PCi-express card?
I have an abit KN9S board with Nforce 550 (just insalled the latest drivers) and an AMD x2 4200
Sidders here is my solution
I got this quote from ATI also, and thought WTF!! I am not using an AGP card I am using a PCIE card on a motherboard (Intel 975xbx) that is supposed to work with their equipment, and I also have the latest Chipset installed, so obviously there is something else wrong. I took my card out for the umpteenth time, and looked for part#, codes etc. My card is an ATI X1600 pro PCIE, or at least that what the Computer manufacturer says it is. On my card there are a couple of stickers but the following numbers stood out to me "C3D-3049", I did a google search that took me to the following site www.connect3d.com , which is a ATI 3rd party vendor or something. Looked around their site got to their support forums, and found out that they have a problem with the BIOS that they installed on the card, here is the link http://connect3d-us.com/forums/showthread.php?t=16&page=3&pp=10 They have a fix which I downloaded ( Need to create a bootable Dos CD or Floppy ) and TaDa!!! no more Code 43 error, card works great now. Even though I am happy I got it working, I am PI#$ED that I had to go through so much trouble to get it working!!!! I really hope that this helps some of you out.
kirkdj wrote: ATI has this posted in their knowlege Base:
737-24498: Windows Vista: Code 43 Error in Device Manager in Systems with ATI AGP Cards and Nforce3 Chipset Motherboards
- The information in this article applies to the following configuration(s):
- Windows Vista 32 or 64 bit
- Catalyst Display Driver 7.1 for Vista
- Radeon® X1950 AGP series
- Radeon® X1600 AGP series
- Radeon® X1300 AGP series
- Radeon® X850 series
- Radeon® X800 series
- Radeon® X700 series
- Radeon® X600 series
- Radeon® X550 series
- Radeon® X300 series
- Radeon® 9800 series
- Radeon® 9700 series
- Radeon® 9650/9600 series
- Radeon® 9550/9500 series
Symptoms
Attempting to install the graphics driver on a system containing an NVidia NF3 chipset and an ATI AGP graphics adapter may result in the driver failing to install and the 3D engine not activating.In Windows Vista 32bit or 64bit versions, the Device Manager will show a (!) mark and the AGP card will operate in PCI mode only. When the properties of the device are shown, the error code will show as code 43.
This issue has been seen with other AGP chipsets such as VIA and SiS but has since been resolved by chipset driver updates from these manufacturers.
AMD’s AGP adapters require correctly functioning AGP support from the operating system in order to run the WDDM driver under Vista. This WDDM driver has no way of working around the absence of AGP support.
Solution
Please contact NVidia Corp. (www.nvidia.com) for more information on this issue.
Hope this helps somebody, it was of no use for me.....I have a ATI chipset on the MB......duhh......their drivers don't even work on their on chipsets!
We all may be screwed!
- You are a genius - thank you so much. Working now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
I don't think we should hold our breath until the release drivers that will properly support our hardware.
Go here and read this:
http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2006/06/15/windows_vista_hardware/
and then this
http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2006/06/23/windows_vista_hardware_pt2/If you really want to run vista and Aero....Microsoft is basically driving the whole world to upgrade their Hardware....
I think everybody should just do themselves a favour, go back to XP PRO SP2 NOW and forget about Vista. Cause if your hardware is more than 6 months old...Your Yukered!!!!!
Check out Asus and see their line of "Vista Compliant Motherboards". Face it people. Microsoft just decided to screw over the world again and their new screwdriver is named Vista/Longhorn, and boy did they ever give us all the Longhorn up rear so to speak this time!!!
First, they wanted to switch the world to a 32 bit operating system. Named Windows NT.So what do they do, they release 3 crappy windows os's known as they 9x series of operating system which support both 16 bit and 32 bit applications. Now we are all running the "evolved versions" of Windows NT or XP should I say, which is basically Windows 2000 with some slick new features and better stabilty. Now everybody trusts XP because it is a pretty good platform. Stable, reliable, and fairly quick and not too hardware intense. Now they want to switch the world from 32 Bit to 64 Bit. So what do they do... They release an operating system that can support 32 bit hardware, but not that well and has some more 64 Bit support. You need a CPU that is capable of 64 bit instructions it won't have support for anything less than Socket 775. An ATI X850 Radeon doesn't stand a chance at running Vista!!! AGP is not really supported because it is obsolete!! Anything below PCI-E X1600 radeon, Forget Aero. It ain't going to happen.
I know I am about to piss off a lot of people on here. But I really don't care about that. I hate to see all you nice people wasting your time here. Check the specs for the "New" Vista compliant motherboards, HDD or HHDD and Video Cards and CPU's. They all will be quite capable of 64 Bit instruction sets. Get ready for Vista? Get ready for a full mooning, and me flipin' the double bird at ya Billly Boy!!!
Better yet....Go install and current distro of Linux which is absolutely free and can do anyhting Vista or XP can do and in fact, they give you all the software you could ever need with the distro. Why not go try out OSX86 if you like the gadget things.
My point of view, unless your planning on a major hardware upgrade. Forget about Vista. That's my story and I'm stick'in too it!!!!!!!!
Well that isnt entirely true,
Nvidia are now releasing the vista 32bit drivers for ATi and the AGP problem, so far Nvidia have released Beta and Alfa drivers for NForce 4,3 and are working on 1 and 2.
NForce have released a full set for the NForce4 chipset but they are in the beta stage but working, for NForce3 there is the Network and Audio alpha releases and the rest within the next 2 weeks from what ive heard inside. As for the NForce 1+2 drivers they are still in the alpha stages and im not entirely sure if they are on the site yet.
Microsoft support also said it wasnt a fault on their part, Nvidia were supposed to cater for all chipsets currently in use. As you can see other Mobo chipset drivers are coming out now, Nvidia need to get their rears into gear and hurry up their support. But id advise you to keep checking on Nvidias website as an NForce driver is the same on all mobos despite the brand, so dont expect all Mobo makers to bring out the latest drivers.
[Nvidia are now releasing the vista 32bit drivers for ATi and the AGP problem, so far Nvidia have released Beta and Alfa drivers for NForce 4,3 and are working on 1 and 2.]
Where?
- I have a pavilion zx5000 also with the ati 9600, i was trying to fix the problem everyone has and i apparenly downloaded an outdated driver called mobility radeon 9600 and its not digitally signed i used it in the device manager and it fixed all the graphic problems the # is 6.14.10.6430 and its dated 3/25/2004. I'm not sure where i downloaded it from but it still wont allow me to run applications like Windows DVD maker, hopefully they will fix the problems but this is fix for a minor period of time.
- I have got an ATI RADEON X700 graphics card in my computer and it is supposed to be Vista compatible
I have installed all drivers and everything but it wont work properly
My system rating has dropped to 1 and I cant get AERO or watch any videos
When I look in the device manager all i get is CODE 43, Windows has stopped this device, ect
Does anyone have a solution please.....
- bungle, what's your source on this? Any info on x64?
- Malcolm -No current solution. Suggest you go to nvidia.com like others have done and ask them to provide a driver update to nforce3 (which said it was Vista Ready last week, but now no longer says that) Given VIA etc resolved their issue, it can't be too much to demand nvidia do the same given you can still buy nforce3 motherboards, and they said that it was vista ready only a week ago....
I saw this ad on nvidia's site about the nforce 3 motherboards being vista capable.
Cottonpickers wrote: Malcolm -No current solution. Suggest you go to nvidia.com like others have done and ask them to provide a driver update to nforce3 (which said it was Vista Ready last week, but now no longer says that) Given VIA etc resolved their issue, it can't be too much to demand nvidia do the same given you can still buy nforce3 motherboards, and they said that it was vista ready only a week ago.... >>>> Thanks for the help
Its a shame it doesnt work properly with the standard ATI drivers considering its supposed to be vista compatible
Malcolm had the same problem except with a ATI 1600 pro, here was my solution
I got this quote from ATI also, and thought WTF!! I am not using an AGP card I am using a PCIE card on a motherboard (Intel 975xbx) that is supposed to work with their equipment, and I also have the latest Chipset installed, so obviously there is something else wrong. I took my card out for the umpteenth time, and looked for part#, codes etc. My card is an ATI X1600 pro PCIE, or at least that what the Computer manufacturer says it is. On my card there are a couple of stickers but the following numbers stood out to me "C3D-3049", I did a google search that took me to the following site www.connect3d.com , which is a ATI 3rd party vendor or something. Looked around their site got to their support forums, and found out that they have a problem with the BIOS that they installed on the card, here is the link http://connect3d-us.com/forums/showthread.php?t=16&page=3&pp=10 They have a fix which I downloaded ( Need to create a bootable Dos CD or Floppy ) and TaDa!!! no more Code 43 error, card works great now. Even though I am happy I got it working, I am PI#$ED that I had to go through so much trouble to get it working!!!! I really hope that this helps some of you out.
kirkdj wrote: ATI has this posted in their knowlege Base:
737-24498: Windows Vista: Code 43 Error in Device Manager in Systems with ATI AGP Cards and Nforce3 Chipset Motherboards
- The information in this article applies to the following configuration(s):
- Windows Vista 32 or 64 bit
- Catalyst Display Driver 7.1 for Vista
- Radeon® X1950 AGP series
- Radeon® X1600 AGP series
- Radeon® X1300 AGP series
- Radeon® X850 series
- Radeon® X800 series
- Radeon® X700 series
- Radeon® X600 series
- Radeon® X550 series
- Radeon® X300 series
- Radeon® 9800 series
- Radeon® 9700 series
- Radeon® 9650/9600 series
- Radeon® 9550/9500 series
Symptoms
Attempting to install the graphics driver on a system containing an NVidia NF3 chipset and an ATI AGP graphics adapter may result in the driver failing to install and the 3D engine not activating.In Windows Vista 32bit or 64bit versions, the Device Manager will show a (!) mark and the AGP card will operate in PCI mode only. When the properties of the device are shown, the error code will show as code 43.
This issue has been seen with other AGP chipsets such as VIA and SiS but has since been resolved by chipset driver updates from these manufacturers.
AMD’s AGP adapters require correctly functioning AGP support from the operating system in order to run the WDDM driver under Vista. This WDDM driver has no way of working around the absence of AGP support.
Solution
Please contact NVidia Corp. (www.nvidia.com) for more information on this issue.
Hope this helps somebody, it was of no use for me.....I have a ATI chipset on the MB......duhh......their drivers don't even work on their on chipsets!
We all may be screwed!
- Ill try this later (if its a connect 3D card) and ill let you know if it worked... Thanks!
Hmmm....looks like NVidia have pulled the plug on their driver download page. All I get is a completely blank page!
I guess one would argue that it's better than the drivers they had on there yesterday...
Interesting, upto last week this page showed nForce3 MCPs - http://www.nvidia.com/page/technology_vista_home.html. No longer there....
I guess that makes a fairly clear statement on Nvidia's position on NF3.
I think I'm glad I swapped to a ULi based board (939Dual-Vsta). AGP works fine, SATA raid works, and I've got an upgrade path to a PCI-E card and AM2 CPU built in on the board. Also, even though Asrock aren't officially saying the board is Vista supported, they have provided an updated bios to solve a problem. Only shame is, the board is out of production
.7 EASY STEPS TO FIX CODE 43 ISSUE ON ALL GRAPHICS CARDS
1) Uninstall the graphics card along with all the software and drivers, ect
2) Turn off your computer and remove the offending graphics card
3) Set the graphics card on fire
4) Wait a few minutes for maximum effect
5) Stamp on it to make sure it is completely dead
6) Dispose of the burnt, crushed graphics card
7) Buy a new graphics card which is Windows Vista Premium Ready
I followed these 7 genius steps and I now have windows aero, ect and my WEI score is over 4
I reccomend you all do the same rather than waiting for proper drivers, ect!
Lol. Funnily enough, I have a Sapphire ATI Radeon 9550 winging its way to me as we speak!
I went for a cheap solution to begin with as there'll be plenty released over the next 6 to 12 months that will be Direct X10 compatible and will be cheaper than what's available at the moment...
Kezza147 wrote: Lol. Funnily enough, I have a Sapphire ATI Radeon 9550 winging its way to me as we speak!
I went for a cheap solution to begin with as there'll be plenty released over the next 6 to 12 months that will be Direct X10 compatible and will be cheaper than what's available at the moment...
I agree, thats what im doing!
I tried this with my nForce3 (MSI K8N NEO2 Platinum) board. I bought a Nvidia based card (AGP - PNY Geforce 7600 GS). Unfortunately released Nvidia drivers in dual core mode, the PC kept crashing when doing anything graphical.
So, sold the Geforce card. In the process of selling the mainboard. Changed to ULi board (Asrock 939Dual-Vsta) and continued use of my ATI video card (Sapphire 9800 XT). All is fine. And the 2 year old ATI card gets 5.9, against the brand new Geforce cards 4.6.
Given Nvidia have removed mention of NF3 on their Vista technology page, I wouldn't hold out any hope for an update from them.
Certainly makes me query who I buy from in the future
Hi all, Sapphire ATI Radeon 9550 is not immune from error 43 ! When I decide to give Vista a try a buy this ATI board, Vista advisor says that it was fine, but Vista says error 43.
I resolved the problem with a BIOS settings, after 2/3 month of pain with ATI/ASROCK support (both completely useless). Check your MoBo first, not your Video Card.
Anyway now my old ASROCK K7S8X mobo with an AMD 2800 and a 9550 is working fine with a decent 3.3 score, so is not completely true that Vista need only new HW.
HTH
Stefano
Only for your info: ULI = nVidia .... ;):D
Malcolm2007 wrote: 7 EASY STEPS TO FIX CODE 43 ISSUE ON ALL GRAPHICS CARDS
1) Uninstall the graphics card along with all the software and drivers, ect
2) Turn off your computer and remove the offending graphics card
3) Set the graphics card on fire
4) Wait a few minutes for maximum effect
5) Stamp on it to make sure it is completely dead
6) Dispose of the burnt, crushed graphics card
7) Buy a new graphics card which is Windows Vista Premium Ready
I followed these 7 genius steps and I now have windows aero, ect and my WEI score is over 4
I reccomend you all do the same rather than waiting for proper drivers, ect!
The better (and correct) way is to burn not the graphics card, you shoud burn the motherboard ....Savagliano wrote: Hi all, Sapphire ATI Radeon 9550 is not immune from error 43 ! When I decide to give Vista a try a buy this ATI board, Vista advisor says that it was fine, but Vista says error 43.
I resolved the problem with a BIOS settings, after 2/3 month of pain with ATI/ASROCK support (both completely useless). Check your MoBo first, not your Video Card.
Anyway now my old ASROCK K7S8X mobo with an AMD 2800 and a 9550 is working fine with a decent 3.3 score, so is not completely true that Vista need only new HW.
HTH
Stefano
Yes, that's true. I needed to upgrade anyway as my Radeon 9200 won't let me display Aero.
Ideally we all need a BIOS update and/or a driver for the likes of an NVidia NForce3 Chipset to resolve this issue, but I'm not holding my breath on NVidia sorting out the latter. If they don't solve it I WILL be taking my business elsewhere in future.
- Ah, yes, I forgot that. ATI or VIA chipset next time then?
i hope nvidia will solve this issue...
meanwhile im running in single core,
amd x2 3800+ single core = 4,8
msi k8n neo2 platinum (nforce 3 ultra)
ocz dual channel kit 2-3-5-2 = 4,5
gigabyte x800xt platinum (agp) = aero 5,9 / business and gaming 4,9
160gb samsung 7200rpm SATA = 5,2
works perfectly in meantime....
Hi there
I run a ATI 9100 IGP motherboard and a 9600XT graphics card.
I opened a ticket with ATI only for them to point me to the above KB article relating to NForce mobo's! HELLO! it's ALL ATI hardware I am using!
I await there reply but looks like i'm going back to XP and waiting the approved 6 months before my kit will be supported properly.
Savagliano wrote: Hi all, Sapphire ATI Radeon 9550 is not immune from error 43 ! When I decide to give Vista a try a buy this ATI board, Vista advisor says that it was fine, but Vista says error 43.
I resolved the problem with a BIOS settings, after 2/3 month of pain with ATI/ASROCK support (both completely useless). Check your MoBo first, not your Video Card.
Anyway now my old ASROCK K7S8X mobo with an AMD 2800 and a 9550 is working fine with a decent 3.3 score, so is not completely true that Vista need only new HW.
HTH
Stefano
UPDATE:-
I've just this second installed my new Sapphire ATI Radeon 9550 and all is well with the world - NO MORE CODE 43!!!!!!!! Aero is quality.
I am chuffed to little mint balls....or so they say!
That's what I have done. I'm not too pleased with these pressure tactics Microsoft is using here. You see there really is not a real need to go from 32 bit to 64 bit applications on the consumer level at this time really because there really are not any applications that are addressing blocks of ram more than 4 gigs at this time. Microsoft is well aware of these issues, and believe me, this is just the way they want it. If you want to see the pretty translucent windows and the flipable windows preview of Flip3D, then you need to upgrade your hardware to a "Vista Compliant" solution. Bull!@$!.
Most hardware on the market nowadays, hardware wise, is capable. But driver wise, will never be capable unless you run Vista in the basic mode. This is a premeditated plan being executed by Microsoft.
Don't shell out cash for Vista if your not ready to purchase new hardware with it. Vista really isn't worth the money you'll pay for it. Check out the various other operating systems that are available to download.
I'm a MCSE. If you want really want Vista, I'll write up a recommended Hardware list for your next upgrades. Vista has made changes to the Motherboard design and Hard Drive design as well.
If you have a Socket 478 board and Northwood or Prescott CPU. Don't bother with Vista. Your problems will never be resolved as these Products are obsolete. AMD 64 Turion processors. Don't bother either as these Boards and CPU's have a 400mhz FSB. Which is too narrow to see the benefit of 64 Bit instruction sets. Your system will bog down with Vista and since that is the case you won't be able to run Aero either.
Minimum Spec is a Socket 775 Board. However, An Intel P965 ICH8R Chipset Board that supports an Intel Core Duo or Quad Core would be more preferable. If you must go with Amd, a Socket AM2 Althon 64 X2 Board with a nvidia nForce 500 SLI MCP chipset on it would be just right. You need a sound card that is Capable of HD Audio and 8 Channels. Most Vista compliant boards will have this on-board. Lot of ways to go here. My best advice is use your own best judgment based on your needs.
PCI-E video cards with HDCP built in and Direct X 10 compliant, everybody here should know that by now. HHDD. This is a hard drive that has 50 megs of Flash memory built onto it which Vista loads itself on to for Instant Start. Also on the mother boards. There is a new ReadyBoost chip which accelerates performance of the CPU temporarily as needed to help chug through CPU intense operations a little faster.
Memory, Defintely Kingston Hyper X2 Ram in Dual Channel mode, 2 Gigs minimum, 4 Gigs or better recommended. Through out USB 1.0/1.1 Devices. They don't really have support anymore. USB 2.0 compliant hardware only. Sound Blaster Audigy2 Series or X-Fi would be the recommended audio Hardware. Just make sure it has 8 Channel Support to work properly with Vista.
Have a monitor that is capable of 1600 x 1200 or 1680 x 1050. If your displaying on a HDTV, Like I do, Make sure the resolution you need is supported or can be defined into the Video card Driver.
This is just a general guidline for what you really need to run Vista, with Aero. Worth it? Only if you are already planning to upgrade. I just bought all my hardware about 2 years ago, and for what I do. XP SP2 is jsut fine with the current hardware I am running.
For more info on motherboards check here first. http://event.asus.com/vista_ready/spec.htm
Then check around the other manufacturers and see what their offerings are. Lets get some tested and approved hardware listed on this forum so we can at least make it worth the server space it occupies.
Regards,
Hi,
i have an ATI 9100IGP mobo like you and a ati x1600pro graphic card agp.
You can install Vista (but not Aero) and use the 7.1 ATI catalist driver for Win XP. You must install at the first the gart driver, the southbridge driver there are in 7.1 release and then you can install the driver xp for ypur graphic card. Don't install catalist control center because the xp version don't work in Vista.
You can work fine with vista (i use games and other software and a test with 3d mark 03 in vista give me same results of xp) but because you can use the xp drivers instead the wddm Vista drivers you cannot use Areo and the Flip 3d.
I opened a ticket with ati too, i hope they 'll make an upgrade for vista for 9100 radeon chipset.
Basicly you are right what about the need of new hardware. But that's not the point here. In fact the point is that lot's of people on this forum do have hardware that is listed as Vista compliant. The problem in most cases is that the manufacturers of that hardware don't have their drivers ready yet, while Vista allready on the market. In my opinion ridiculous, because they had loads of time to test etc. (I've been there allready when I upgraded to XP years ago). This has nothing to do with pressure tactics Microsoft: XP will still be supported for years. Microsoft is pretty clear what about recommended hardware. But when manufacturers like Asus don't provide decent AGP/SIS drivers etc. on time, it's not fair to blame Vista / Microsoft or ATI.
I just want to run Vista like it should run on my system: using Aero or not, is minor significant for me . I just want my grapics card to work proper.Ok thanks Jordy, I may try that though I use the Catalyst Control Centre to change my resolution to run on an HD TV.
I suppose I can use powerstrip for that instead.
Hi Jacob
I think that Microsoft is to blame for this problem, because they provide us with this useless Vista Advisor, that keeps telling us that our HW is fine even if the HW manufacturer says that it isn't Vista compliant. Moreover, the AGP/SYS driver I've installed doen't come from SIS, it comes from Microsoft Itself (I've checked the "manufacturer" field on the driver properties).
Vista Advisor can do it's job in two ways:
1) Check my HW against a list of compatible HW after detecting my MoBo or after asking me some details about my HW
2) Do some actual probe against my HW to chek for compatibility
Obviously this piece of software didn't do this task and I've lost 3 month of my time prior to find a stupid flag on the BIOS to instruct my AGP HW to work in a way that Vista support
Personally I think that Microsoft need to says that Vista is compatible with all the HW you can immagine, otherwise people simply don't buy this OS, and that Vista Advisor is a carefully disguised BMP viewer that always show the "You're compatible" image
Just my 2 cent
Stefano
How do I install vista and/or disable aero to install those XP drivers?
I don't remember an option to do this......
Also does anyone have a link to email ASUS about these propblems......hopefully it's not that page where they ask for dozenz of serial #'s and the complete history of your pc from birth! I mean a site we can let them know that we need drivers for our MB's (P4R800-VM) and our graphic cards....or even a phone number would be better!
Kirk
@Kirk: Here you go (see below) but don't expect much support from Asus. They mostley reply with standard e-mails.
ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC. (Taiwan)
Technical Support
Hotline: 0800-093-456 (Toll-Free Call from Taiwan only)
Fax: 886-2-2895-9254
E-mail: http://vip.asus.com/eservice/techserv.aspx
WWW: http://taiwan.asus.com.tw
FTP: ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS
ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC. (Asia-Pacific)
Technical Support
Hotline: 886-2-2894-3447
Fax: 886-2-2890-7698
E-mail: http://vip.asus.com/eservice/techserv.aspx
WWW: http://www.asus.com
FTP: ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS
ASUS COMPUTER INTERNATIONAL (America)
Technical Support
Motherboard and General Product Support :
Email: http://vip.asus.com/eservice/techserv.aspx
Tel: 502-995-0883 (select option 3)
Fax: 502-933-8713
Notebook Support:
Email: http://vip.asus.com/eservice/techserv.aspx
Notebook ONLY Hotline: 510-739-3777 ext. 5110
PDA Support:
Email: http://vip.asus.com/eservice/techserv.aspx
PDA ONLY Hotline: 1-866-732-7108
Server Support:
Tel: 510-791-3700
Fax: 510-797-2102
RMA Support:
E-mail: rma@asus.com
Tel: 510-739-3777 (select option 3)
Fax: 510-608-4511
ASUS COMPUTER GmbH (Germany/Austria)
Technical Support
Hotline: MB/Others: +49-2102-9599-0
Notebook: +49-2102-9599-10
Fax: +49-2102-9599-11
E-mail: http://www.asus.de/support/support.htm
WWW: http://www.asus.de
FTP: ftp://ftp.asus.de/pub/ASUSCOM
ASUS Holland B.V. (Netherlands)
Technical Support
Notebook Hotline: +31-(0)591-668190
Fax: +31-(0)591-666853
E-mail: http://vip.asus.com/eservice/techserv.aspx (Notebook only)
E-mail: http://vip.asus.com/eservice/techserv.aspx (Motherboard only)
E-mail: http://vip.asus.com/eservice/techserv.aspx (VGA only)
WWW: http://www.asus.com/index.htm
FTP: ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS
ASUS COMPUTER (China)
Technical Support
Tel: 8008206655
E-Mail: http://vip.asus.com.cn/eservice/techserv.aspx
Jacob Versteeg wrote: Basicly you are right what about the need of new hardware. But that's not the point here. In fact the point is that lot's of people on this forum do have hardware that is listed as Vista compliant. The problem in most cases is that the manufacturers of that hardware don't have their drivers ready yet, while Vista allready on the market. In my opinion ridiculous, because they had loads of time to test etc. (I've been there allready when I upgraded to XP years ago). This has nothing to do with pressure tactics Microsoft: XP will still be supported for years. Microsoft is pretty clear what about recommended hardware. But when manufacturers like Asus don't provide decent AGP/SIS drivers etc. on time, it's not fair to blame Vista / Microsoft or ATI.
I just want to run Vista like it should run on my system: using Aero or not, is minor significant for me . I just want my grapics card to work proper.Yes, but look at it this way. When they released XP, the drivers were pretty well all there at the time of release. I do believe quite adamantly that if they ever had the intention of supporting these devices we are all griping about right now, the drivers should and would be there by now. The specs have changed on things. However I do agree that the upgrade advisor was absolutely useless.
No, the fact is not, that many people on this forum has Vista compliant hardware that is not working, the fact is, that every little chipset company has fixed a more ore less small problem asap where nVidia has maybe a big problem with it ....
Other question btw: Where in this forum is the button to jump to the last page of a post ??
The link in the alert mails jumps only to the 1st page too like every post ....Ok, my Quote is away too, .... ;):D
I hope, MS will use a better forum soft in future .... This here is more or less a "blame" ....Check out a few other forums on-line and see what they are saying. Here's a few links that you can go and see for yourself that what I am saying is just right.
http://www.theinq.com/default.aspx?article=37476
Oh and see the Nvidia Support Messages especially here
http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?s=d8d0f696a04e4561bf5bbbec568709e0&t=1154728&page=2
Oh and see the Class Action Law suit somebody trying to launch against Nvidia over here
http://www.nvidiaclassaction.org/
And see the additional griping happening over here
http://72.14.253.104/search?q=cache:...lnk&cd=1&gl=us
http://72.14.253.104/search?q=cache:...lnk&cd=7&gl=usYou will see some sort of correlation here. Ati is blaming Nvidia, Microsoft is sitting back and watching things as they unfold and Nvidia seems to be the scapegoat here for both companies. The fact is the drivers are not being supported properly on EOL Products because they want the consumer to go out and buy new hardware/computer systems. More computer systems sold=More Vista Licenses sold also. That makes Bill a really happy not so little boy! If you didn't learn anything from WGA, you really should know it's all about making more money for Microsoft. And I bet you there is a kick back going to Microsoft from hardware manufacturers on new hardware sales bearing the Vista Premium Logo. Beleive it, this stuff happens on a daily basis.
Like I said, don't hold your breath on new drivers for our EOL hardware.
BTW, I was in Future Shop just yesterday and they had an ATI AGP Radeon X1650Pro on sale for $199 CDN. I looked at the box and it had a Vista Premium Logo on the Box and stated in the specifications that it would be capable of DX10 and Aero interface. I was just wondering if anybody on here has that particular Video Card and could verify if that works with Vista Properly?
Regards and best of luck, and hopefully some ingenious hacker releases a fix to bypass what Vista is looking for in your hardware or fools Vista into thinking your computer is Vista Premium Compliant.
If you have got an ATI Graphics card and you have nForce3 then it is NVIDIAS fault that you are getting code 43 errors because they cannot be bothered to release the drivers.
Everyone who is affected please sign this petition and also email NVIDIA
If we all do these two things then many of us will get rid of CODE 43 once and for all
I Recieved this email from ATI when I asked them about it:
737-24498: Windows Vista: Code 43 Error in Device Manager in Systems with ATI AGP Cards and Nforce3 Chipset Motherboards
- The information in this article applies to the following configuration(s):
- Windows Vista 32 or 64 bit
- Catalyst Display Driver 7.1 for Vista
- Radeon® X1950 AGP series
- Radeon® X1600 AGP series
- Radeon® X1300 AGP series
- Radeon® X850 series
- Radeon® X800 series
- Radeon® X700 series
- Radeon® X600 series
- Radeon® X550 series
- Radeon® X300 series
- Radeon® 9800 series
- Radeon® 9700 series
- Radeon® 9650/9600 series
- Radeon® 9550/9500 series
Symptoms
Attempting to install the graphics driver on a system containing an NVidia NF3 chipset and an ATI AGP graphics adapter may result in the driver failing to install and the 3D engine not activating.In Windows Vista 32bit or 64bit versions, the Device Manager will show a (!) mark and the AGP card will operate in PCI mode only. When the properties of the device are shown, the error code will show as code 43.
This issue has been seen with other AGP chipsets such as VIA and SiS but has since been resolved by chipset driver updates from these manufacturers.
AMD's AGP adapters require correctly functioning AGP support from the operating system in order to run the WDDM driver under Vista. This WDDM driver has no way of working around the absence of AGP support.
Solution
Please contact NVidia Corp. (www.nvidia.com) for more information on this issueThis is not only a nVidia problem... I have a VIA chipset on my MoBo (Asrock 775-Dual PT880) and it won't work either.
I only wonder why ATI keeps telling to update the chipset-drivers. If they tell me HOW to do this I might be able the sort my problems out. But neither installing Hyperion from VIA nor manuall search for newer drivers for CPU-to-AGP (guess what - "There is no new driver for your hardware". Driver date: June 21, 2006. That's what I call up-to-date-drivers...!
) changes anythingAnd I totally agree with the ones complaining about the Upgrade Advisor - it's useless! Nobody should spend money on Vista before these problems haven't been sorted out!
BTW: Thanks for trying to help me with my vanished 2nd CPU. Its back now, although I don't know why, because I didn't change anything. Instead I refused to boot Vista for over 2 weeks now...
Shoilein
I found Drivers from another forum for the Nvidia Chipset. They are list as WHQL over there. Follow this link and see if they will work for you if you have a NF3 chipset.
Those are just for nForce 430/410/405/400 with Integrated Graphics Version 15.00 :(
As it seems we're better not holding or breath for new drivers :-/
In a german forum I read that am member of thies forum got an answer from ATI that they will fix the Code 43 Error in one of the next drivers ....
Wenn we have luck, the next CAT will solve it.
I had same problems on Windows XP with nforce3 as I changed my board. The card was first time not identfied and the CCC was not installed correctly. Than a few days later the card was running but there were no chance to switch to a frequency over 60 Hz. No chance to get the normal CAT menu, only the VGA standard settings. CCC was not running again. About this problems confused, I asked ATI for the rason, because on my old board (AMD chipset) was everything fine with the same graphics card.
They answered me, that I should wait for the next CAT and then it will besolved.
So the next CAT came and the "normal driver" shoud not fix the 60 Hz problem but with the CCC it works.
What did nVidia in this time ?? => nothing ....
In this case, the nforce3 chipset was not out of support, it was not really old, a few weeks only but in this point of sight there was no different thinking from nVidia about their customers ....
But not with me. My next Board has a different Chipset, maybe Intel ....
1st Mistake from nVidia was to tell the 3dfx customers to let live voodoo as 2nd product line and then let them die as fast as possible. That (and of course of different other problems) was the reasen for me to never buy a GeForce card.
That I switched to nForce was because ist was one of the last AGP chipsets with "normal" speeds and without other problems. But it was really early clear, that this was not true ....
Regards and with best wishes for a fast solution
CPU w.And sorry for my english and my typos .... ;):D
CPU w.- New ATI video drivers for XP and Vista have been released version 7.2
Let me know if this helps error code 43 as I don't have vista installed at this moment.
http://ati.amd.com/support/driver.html Tried it a few minutes ago: it has no effect.
It has no effect because the problem is caused by the chipset drivers; not by the ati catalyst drivers.- installed vista ultimate last night and have been trying to get a solution for this ever since...
running a visiontek x1300 pci card on an asus p5s800 with a p4 prescott 3.2 ghz cpu and 1g ram
code 43 has been driving me crazy...im doing it ol school with the pci slot and only one monitor set-up. just installed the latest 7.2 ati drivers that was uploaded on their site today but to no avail.
also got an error message when i run the driver disc that came with my card..."setup unable to complete install. try to setup display adpater with standard vga driver before running setup"
code 43 still appears. im definitely not as knowledgeable as most of the people who post on here so any advice or information on how or when this might be resolved will be greatly appreciated.
best... Still having a problem with this and ATI have been no help at all so far and going around in circles.
My Kit: mobo - ATI 9100igp graphics card - ATI 9600XT AIW (definitely down to ATI you would think!)
I logged a call with them last month regarding the code43 placing the ATI9100igp in the header of the fault ticket.
First they replied back that the 9100igp is not DX9 compatible so I would not be supported. I replied back saying that I was using a 9100igp for the mobo and a DX9 9600XT card, as they obviously did not read the fault properly.
Then they referred me to the "code43" KB article and asked me to contact Nvidia as it was clearly a nForce driver issue. HELLO! I'm using a ATI MOBO AND CHIPSET!
After asking me to run some diagnostics tools they then told me that my mobo chipset drivers were out of date and asked me to go and update them. They gave me a list of popular chipset manufacturers:
Popular Chipset Vendors:
* Intel - http://support.intel.com/support/chipsets/driver.htm
* VIA - http://www.viaarena.com/?PageID=300
* Nvidia - http://nvidia.com/content/drivers/drivers.asp
* SIS - http://download.sis.com/
* ALI - http://www.ali.com.tw/eng/support/drivers.phpWHERE IS THE ATI website in there? I'M USING AN ATI MOBO!!!!!
I wonder when that will click? :)
I've been lurkin around this thread for a while now, and thought I'd let everyone know that I'm running Aero! Jealous??
Well, I have a Radeon 9600 Pro 256MB, AMD Athlon XP 2000, and 768 megs of RAM
After I installed Vista, I came across the error 43, but looking through this thread, I updated all my drivers through windows update and messed around with my BIOS settings. I fiddled about with the AGP Aperture settings, and it finally started to work when I set it to 64 megs. For those of you that are having similar problems, I suggest you try the same, and mess about with the BIOS settings.
I'm running the Aero theme now, and will be checking the rating system to see what I get.. Hopefully there'll be no BSOD!
Hope this helps..