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  • Will Activex be in Spartan and Windows 10 (Pro?) Internet Explorer so enterprise users can connect using RDSH?  When is IE end of life?

    John Schmidt

    Thursday, July 2, 2015 9:38 PM

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  • Hi John,

    So far, we recognize some enterprises have legacy web sites that use older technologies designed only for Internet Explorer, such as custom ActiveX controls and Browser Helper Objects. For these users, Internet Explorer will also be available on Windows 10.

    And in new browser Project Spartan-Microsoft edge, the need for ActiveX controls has been significantly reduced by HTML5-era capabilities, which also produces interoperable code across browsers.

    More information, please read this blog:

    A break from the past, part 2: Saying goodbye to ActiveX, VBScript, attachEvent…

    http://blogs.windows.com/msedgedev/2015/05/06/a-break-from-the-past-part-2-saying-goodbye-to-activex-vbscript-attachevent/


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    Friday, July 3, 2015 10:29 AM
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  • Hi John,

    So far, we recognize some enterprises have legacy web sites that use older technologies designed only for Internet Explorer, such as custom ActiveX controls and Browser Helper Objects. For these users, Internet Explorer will also be available on Windows 10.

    And in new browser Project Spartan-Microsoft edge, the need for ActiveX controls has been significantly reduced by HTML5-era capabilities, which also produces interoperable code across browsers.

    More information, please read this blog:

    A break from the past, part 2: Saying goodbye to ActiveX, VBScript, attachEvent…

    http://blogs.windows.com/msedgedev/2015/05/06/a-break-from-the-past-part-2-saying-goodbye-to-activex-vbscript-attachevent/


    Please remember to mark the replies as answers if they help, and unmark the answers if they provide no help. If you have feedback for TechNet Support, contact tnmff@microsoft.com.

    Friday, July 3, 2015 10:29 AM
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  • Hi Karen,

    You said: "So far, we recognize some enterprises have legacy web sites that use older technologies designed only for Internet Explorer, such as custom ActiveX controls and Browser Helper Objects."  We use Remote Desktop Session Host (RDSH) to get to RDWeb.  Are you saying 2012R2 does not support the RDWeb, Gateway and Licensing Server making all of them legacy? If that is the case, what do I use to replace RDWeb that I have running on 2008 R2?

    Active-X is required for computers that connect to RDWeb.  Is RDWeb and Active-X supported in Windows 10 and is it going away?  If it goes away,  how will my remote offices connect to the enterprise and what will take the place of Microsoft Easy Print?

    Also, will Windows 10 support Silverlight?  The enterprise VoIP phone system uses apps that indicate presence information which require Silverlight.

    What will happen to the real Java and Flash.  Are they supported or is there a Microsoft-specific replacement for them?

    The article you referenced says goodbye to VBScript.  Why is that going away and what is the replacement for it since we are in the process of utilizing an outsourced programmer who is developing an application in VB with a SQL back end?


    John Schmidt

    Thursday, July 23, 2015 8:57 PM
  • Karen said: "So far, we recognize some enterprises have legacy web sites that use older technologies designed only for Internet Explorer, such as custom ActiveX controls and Browser Helper Objects."  We use Remote Desktop Session Host (RDSH) to get to RDWeb.  Are you saying 2012R2 does not support the RDWeb, Gateway and Licensing Server making all of them legacy? If that is the case, what do I use to replace RDWeb that I have running on 2008 R2?

    Active-X is required for computers that connect to RDWeb.  Is RDWeb and Active-X supported in Windows 10 and is it going away?  If it goes away,  how will my remote offices connect to the enterprise and what will take the place of Microsoft Easy Print?

    Also, will Windows 10 support Silverlight?  The enterprise VoIP phone system uses apps that indicate presence information which require Silverlight.

    What will happen to the real Java and Flash.  Are they supported or is there a Microsoft-specific replacement for them?

    The article you referenced says goodbye to VBScript.  Why is that going away and what is the replacement for it since we are in the process of utilizing an outsourced programmer who is developing an application in VB with a SQL back end?

    RDWeb no longer demands ActiveX, as of WS2012.
    WS2012 has no correlation to Windows10, nor Spartan/Edge.
    Spartan/Edge does not offer binary-extensibility, which means no ActiveX/BHOs.

    Spartan/Edge does not implement (client-side) VBScript. This doesn't mean server-side VBScript. This doesn't mean non-browser VBScript. This doesn't mean VB.

    IE11 remains in Windows10, for all those "legacy" methods. IE isn't going away.
    Some good info on RDS is here:
    http://www.rdsgurus.com/rds-resource/working-with-rd-web-access-in-windows-server-2012/

    Also check the dedicated RDS/TS forum, and, the dedicated IE forum.


    Don
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    Thursday, July 23, 2015 9:34 PM