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  • Hello,

    I am hoping to re-install Vista on my C drive due to a bloated Winsxs folder.  I currently have two drives, and store personal files on the secondary drive.  So my plan is to reformat the C drive, reinstall Vista, then re-install my other software.

    Does this make sense?

    My real question has to do with drivers...an acquaintance advised me to "create a partition for the existing drivers and save them" prior to reformatting the drive and re-installing everything.

    I can't find this advice posted anywhere online...am I missing something?  Won't Vista be able to find the necessary drivers on its own?  And/or won't they be installed when I re-install the software I use?

    Any advice would be appreciated...details, please.

    Thanks.

    Thursday, January 26, 2012 10:15 PM

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  • WinSxs is the central file repository. All other window's files are
    hardlinks.
     
    A hardlink is a filename. In windows files can have multiple names. EG
    Shell32.dll inWinSxs is the exact same file as
    c:\windows\system32\shell32.dll. It points to the exact same bits on the
    harddisk.
     
    As you install updates you get multiple versions of the file in WinSxs so
    you can uninstall updates.
     
    You can delete the original versions of files updated by service packs by
    running either VSP1CLN.exe (SP1) or compcln.exe (SP2).
     
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    "mplsbeatnik" wrote in message news:01c1c134-3aea-4c52-a0aa-85cfd6ea78eb...
    > Hello,
    >
    > I am hoping to re-install Vista on my C drive due to a bloated Winsxs
    > folder. I currently have two drives, and store personal files on the
    > secondary drive. So my plan is to reformat the C drive, reinstall Vista,
    > then re-install my other software.
    >
    > Does this make sense?
    >
    > My real question has to do with drivers...an acquaintance advised me to
    > "create a partition for the existing drivers and save them" prior to
    > reformatting the drive and re-installing everything.
    >
    > I can't find this advice posted anywhere online...am I missing something?
    > Won't Vista be able to find the necessary drivers on its own? And/or
    > won't they be installed when I re-install the software I use?
    >
    > Any advice would be appreciated...details, please.
    >
    > Thanks.
    >
     
     
    Friday, January 27, 2012 1:31 AM
  • PS Running either VSP1CLN.exe (SP1) or compcln.exe (SP2) will remove the
    ability to unistall the service pack.
     
     
     
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    "DavidMCandy" wrote in message news:e51011ff-ff7c-4d5b-a48d-b7ce8bd34bdc...
    > WinSxs is the central file repository. All other window's files are
    > hardlinks.
    >
    > A hardlink is a filename. In windows files can have multiple names. EG
    > Shell32.dll inWinSxs is the exact same file as
    > c:\windows\system32\shell32.dll. It points to the exact same bits on the
    > harddisk.
    >
    > As you install updates you get multiple versions of the file in WinSxs so
    > you can uninstall updates.
    >
    > You can delete the original versions of files updated by service packs by
    > running either VSP1CLN.exe (SP1) or compcln.exe (SP2).
    >
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    > ..
    > --
    > "mplsbeatnik" wrote in message
    > news:01c1c134-3aea-4c52-a0aa-85cfd6ea78eb...
    >> Hello,
    >>
    >> I am hoping to re-install Vista on my C drive due to a bloated Winsxs
    >> folder. I currently have two drives, and store personal files on the
    >> secondary drive. So my plan is to reformat the C drive, reinstall Vista,
    >> then re-install my other software.
    >>
    >> Does this make sense?
    >>
    >> My real question has to do with drivers...an acquaintance advised me to
    >> "create a partition for the existing drivers and save them" prior to
    >> reformatting the drive and re-installing everything.
    >>
    >> I can't find this advice posted anywhere online...am I missing something?
    >> Won't Vista be able to find the necessary drivers on its own? And/or
    >> won't they be installed when I re-install the software I use?
    >>
    >> Any advice would be appreciated...details, please.
    >>
    >> Thanks.
    >>
    >
    >
     
     
    Friday, January 27, 2012 2:11 AM
  • PPS. You can force a scavenging operation (to remove unneeded files) by
    adding or removing a windows feature in Control Panel - Programs and
    Features.
     
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    "DavidMCandy" wrote in message news:88dc91f3-7dbb-460a-85cf-0e81b56c79df...
    > PS Running either VSP1CLN.exe (SP1) or compcln.exe (SP2) will remove the
    > ability to unistall the service pack.
    >
    >
    >
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    > ..
    > --
    > "DavidMCandy" wrote in message
    > news:e51011ff-ff7c-4d5b-a48d-b7ce8bd34bdc...
    >> WinSxs is the central file repository. All other window's files are
    >> hardlinks.
    >>
    >> A hardlink is a filename. In windows files can have multiple names. EG
    >> Shell32.dll inWinSxs is the exact same file as
    >> c:\windows\system32\shell32.dll. It points to the exact same bits on the
    >> harddisk.
    >>
    >> As you install updates you get multiple versions of the file in WinSxs so
    >> you can uninstall updates.
    >>
    >> You can delete the original versions of files updated by service packs by
    >> running either VSP1CLN.exe (SP1) or compcln.exe (SP2).
    >>
    >> --
    >> ..
    >> --
    >> "mplsbeatnik" wrote in message
    >> news:01c1c134-3aea-4c52-a0aa-85cfd6ea78eb...
    >>> Hello,
    >>>
    >>> I am hoping to re-install Vista on my C drive due to a bloated Winsxs
    >>> folder. I currently have two drives, and store personal files on the
    >>> secondary drive. So my plan is to reformat the C drive, reinstall Vista,
    >>> then re-install my other software.
    >>>
    >>> Does this make sense?
    >>>
    >>> My real question has to do with drivers...an acquaintance advised me to
    >>> "create a partition for the existing drivers and save them" prior to
    >>> reformatting the drive and re-installing everything.
    >>>
    >>> I can't find this advice posted anywhere online...am I missing
    >>> something?
    >>> Won't Vista be able to find the necessary drivers on its own? And/or
    >>> won't they be installed when I re-install the software I use?
    >>>
    >>> Any advice would be appreciated...details, please.
    >>>
    >>> Thanks.
    >>>
    >>
    >>
    >
    >
     
     
    Friday, January 27, 2012 2:58 AM
  • Hmmm...thank you for the response.

    You didn't answer my question, though.

    After reading these two threads:

     

    I had decided it would be wise to leave Winsxs alone.  Why is your seemingly simple solution not posted to those threads?  I am not trying to be argumentative or offend, I am simply trying to understand.  How much space could this clean up?  The folder is taking up 64G or more of a 90G hard drive, which leads me to believe there might be something else going on.  32 bit Vista.
    Thanks.
    Friday, January 27, 2012 7:05 AM
  • http://blogs.technet.com/b/joscon/archive/2010/06/12/general-guidance-on-disk-provisioning-for-winsxs-growth.aspx
     
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    "mplsbeatnik" wrote in message news:dde98662-693a-4a4a-861b-934ae7cff916...
    > Hmmm...thank you for the response.
    >
    > You didn't answer my question, though.
    >
    > After reading these two threads:
    >
    > http://blogs.technet.com/b/askcore/archive/2008/09/17/what-is-the-winsxs-directory-in-windows-2008-and-windows-vista-and-why-is-it-so-large.aspx
    >
    >
    >
    > http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/itprovistasetup/thread/9411dbaa-69ac-43a1-8915-749670cec8c3/
    > I had decided it would be wise to leave Winsxs alone. Why is your
    > seemingly simple solution not posted to those threads? I am not trying to
    > be argumentative or offend, I am simply trying to understand. How much
    > space could this clean up? The folder is taking up 64G or more of a 90G
    > hard drive, which leads me to believe there might be something else going
    > on. 32 bit Vista.
    > Thanks.
     
     
    Friday, January 27, 2012 7:29 AM
  • You won't know what files to backup. I copy all drivers from the CD or when
    downloaded to a folder. After installing Windows I double click the setup
    files one by one.
     
    Many drivers are builtin to windows, others are on Windows Update.
     
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    "mplsbeatnik" wrote in message news:dde98662-693a-4a4a-861b-934ae7cff916...
    > Hmmm...thank you for the response.
    >
    > You didn't answer my question, though.
    >
    > After reading these two threads:
    >
    > http://blogs.technet.com/b/askcore/archive/2008/09/17/what-is-the-winsxs-directory-in-windows-2008-and-windows-vista-and-why-is-it-so-large.aspx
    >
    >
    >
    > http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/itprovistasetup/thread/9411dbaa-69ac-43a1-8915-749670cec8c3/
    > I had decided it would be wise to leave Winsxs alone. Why is your
    > seemingly simple solution not posted to those threads? I am not trying to
    > be argumentative or offend, I am simply trying to understand. How much
    > space could this clean up? The folder is taking up 64G or more of a 90G
    > hard drive, which leads me to believe there might be something else going
    > on. 32 bit Vista.
    > Thanks.
     
     
    Friday, January 27, 2012 7:49 AM
  • And when calculating sizes remember not to count files twice by it's two
    hardlinks (filenames).
     
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    "mplsbeatnik" wrote in message news:dde98662-693a-4a4a-861b-934ae7cff916...
    > Hmmm...thank you for the response.
    >
    > You didn't answer my question, though.
    >
    > After reading these two threads:
    >
    > http://blogs.technet.com/b/askcore/archive/2008/09/17/what-is-the-winsxs-directory-in-windows-2008-and-windows-vista-and-why-is-it-so-large.aspx
    >
    >
    >
    > http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/itprovistasetup/thread/9411dbaa-69ac-43a1-8915-749670cec8c3/
    > I had decided it would be wise to leave Winsxs alone. Why is your
    > seemingly simple solution not posted to those threads? I am not trying to
    > be argumentative or offend, I am simply trying to understand. How much
    > space could this clean up? The folder is taking up 64G or more of a 90G
    > hard drive, which leads me to believe there might be something else going
    > on. 32 bit Vista.
    > Thanks.
     
     
    Friday, January 27, 2012 7:51 AM
  • 64 GiB is larger than what I've seen before by an order of magnitude, all
    other reports are under 10GiB. What's the size after the scavenger runs.
     
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    "mplsbeatnik" wrote in message news:dde98662-693a-4a4a-861b-934ae7cff916...
    > Hmmm...thank you for the response.
    >
    > You didn't answer my question, though.
    >
    > After reading these two threads:
    >
    > http://blogs.technet.com/b/askcore/archive/2008/09/17/what-is-the-winsxs-directory-in-windows-2008-and-windows-vista-and-why-is-it-so-large.aspx
    >
    >
    >
    > http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/itprovistasetup/thread/9411dbaa-69ac-43a1-8915-749670cec8c3/
    > I had decided it would be wise to leave Winsxs alone. Why is your
    > seemingly simple solution not posted to those threads? I am not trying to
    > be argumentative or offend, I am simply trying to understand. How much
    > space could this clean up? The folder is taking up 64G or more of a 90G
    > hard drive, which leads me to believe there might be something else going
    > on. 32 bit Vista.
    > Thanks.
     
     
    Friday, January 27, 2012 11:12 AM
  • Sorry...it is not my machine.  At this point we are no longer troubleshooting the Winsxs folder.

    Again...here is my question, I would sure appreciate it if someone could give me some advice:

    I am hoping to re-install Vista (32-bit) on my friend's C drive due to a bloated Winsxs folder.  She currently has two drives, and stores personal files on the "2nd" drive.  So my plan is to reformat the C drive, reinstall Vista, then re-install her other software.

    Does this make sense?

    My real question has to do with drivers...an acquaintance advised me to "...create a partition for the existing drivers and save them..." on the c drive, prior to reformatting the and re-installing everything.

    I can't find this advice posted anywhere online...am I missing something?  Won't Vista be able to find the necessary drivers on its own?  And/or won't they be installed when I re-install the software?  Wouldn't it make more sense to copy them to a flash drive or CD?

    Any advice would be appreciated...details, please.

    Friday, January 27, 2012 2:52 PM