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Navigating the folder structure in the left folder pane is ridiculously annoying!! RRS feed

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  • I don't know if anyone has noticed this, but if you're navigating a folder structure using the folder view in the left pane, it jumps all over the place when you're trying to open/close folders.  Sometimes if I expand a folder, it will decide to scroll the left pane all the way to the top (so I can now see favorites and libraries) and move what I just expanded down towards the bottom, which makes no sense at all!  And then it sometimes just arbitrarily scrolls up/down when I'm expanding/collapsing folders.

    It's amazing how badly MS screwed some things up in Windows 7 that were working perfectly fine in XP.  If you navigate the folder structure in XP in the left pane, it just expands the folder without moving everything wildly about.  If the folder has a lot of subfolders, it moves the parent folder up to the top of the view and fits as many as it can below... seems like Windows 7 can't figure out what to do! argh this is annoying..

    Wednesday, February 2, 2011 7:57 PM

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  • Wow.. found another stupidity..

     

    use your arrow keys in the left pane and move to Computer.  Hit the right arrow key to expand Computer.  Now move down using your arrow keys to Local Disk and hit the right arrow key.  Now move down to Windows and hit the right arrow key.  Now move down the list until System32 is in the middle of the pane.  Then use your up arrow key so that System32 is highlighted and hit the right arrow key.. System32 will now jump to the bottom of the pane instead of the top of the pane!!!  What the heck is it doing??!?!?  It should move System32 to the TOP of the pane and expand its contents below.

     

    Is this just me or do other people have the same behavior?!

    Wednesday, February 2, 2011 8:07 PM
  • I don't know if anyone has noticed this, but if you're navigating a folder structure using the folder view in the left pane, it jumps all over the place when you're trying to open/close folders.  Sometimes if I expand a folder, it will decide to scroll the left pane all the way to the top (so I can now see favorites and libraries) and move what I just expanded down towards the bottom, which makes no sense at all!
    It's amazing how badly MS screwed some things up in Windows 7 that were working perfectly fine in XP.  If you navigate the folder structure in XP in the left pane, it just expands the folder without moving everything wildly about.  If the folder has a lot of subfolders, it moves the parent folder up to the top of the view and fits as many as it can below... seems like Windows 7 can't figure out what to do! argh this is annoying..

    Wow.. found another stupidity..

     

    use your arrow keys in the left pane and move to Computer.  Hit the right arrow key to expand Computer.  Now move down using your arrow keys to Local Disk and hit the right arrow key.  Now move down to Windows and hit the right arrow key.  Now move down the list until System32 is in the middle of the pane.  Then use your up arrow key so that System32 is highlighted and hit the right arrow key.. System32 will now jump to the bottom of the pane instead of the top of the pane!!!  What the heck is it doing??!?!?  It should move System32 to the TOP of the pane and expand its contents below.


    This is the Left Pane Scroll Bug.

    See the bottom of this post for help with the left pane scroll bug.

    Bug: If you are viewing a folder and expand it in the left pane to show it's subfolders, the folder is annoyingly auto-scrolled to the bottom of the pane causing the subfolders to not be shown, making it difficult to work with. Double clicking a folder in the left pane can also cause this problem.

     

     

    Tell MS you want it fixed by voting at the Microsoft Connect website:

    http://connect.microsoft.com/WindowsServerFeedback/feedback/details/621426/bug-when-expanding-folders-in-explorer-server-2008-r2-and-windows-7

     

    Watch the left pane scroll bug:

    Video evidence of the left pane scroll bug using Windows Explorer in Windows 7
    This shows one way to reproduce it, clicking the triangle to expand a folder you're currently viewing also reproduces it.

     

     

    Left Pane Scroll Bug threads:

    1. Bug: Windows Explorer expands folders inappropriately, jumping the folder you expand to the bottom of the navigation pane

    2. Windows explorer tree view expands at the bottom, not at the top as it used to be

    3. Windows Explorer navigation pane issue

    4. Windows explorer moves the selected folder to bottom of folders list. How do I stop this?


    5. Strange folder behavior in left pane of Windows Explorer

     

     

     

     

    Left pane scroll bug (and other fixes):

    Using Classic Shell To Restore Some Features To Windows Explorer

    After installing the free Classic Shell you can customize Windows Explorer closer to how you want it, the quote below is just one way to do so. Click here to see some of the options you can customize, and here is the FAQ page for Classic Shell.

    A solution which did work for restoring some features.

    1) Install the free Classic Shell.  This is very customizable, and works as a mod for Windows Explorer rather than a full blown replacement. You didn't need to install the Classic Start Menu option, but you can if you want.
    2) Reboot the computer.
    3) Launch Windows Explorer (Start - Computer) and turn on "Always Show Menus" (Organize - Layout - check Menu Bar). This is just for configuration, you can turn it off again afterwards if you want.
    4) Right click on the menu bar and turn on the "Classic Explorer Bar". This adds a series of cut/copy/paste icons to Explorer. Crucially, it also adds the "Configuration" icon.
    5) Go into the configuration and from here you can tweak things to your heart's content. To kill the horrible Windows 7 folder-jumping, switch the "Navigation Pane Style" to Vista. You can even knock it back to XP mode if you want (this adds in the lines to the folder tree and adds a classic "+" icon for expanding folders). The Windows Vista style folder view looks pretty much the same as the Windows 7 view, but gets rid of the horrible jumping.
    6) Tweak any other settings you want.

    After this, you can turn the toolbar and menus back off in Explorer if you wish. Windows Explorer looks largely the same, but folders no longer jump around. Vote for Microsoft to fix this bug.

    Now, if only MS could code properly so that we don't have to mess with third party apps to get Windows to actually work properly...

     

     

     

    You can also let Microsoft know you want this bug fixed here:

    http://mymfe.microsoft.com/Windows%207/Feedback.aspx?formID=195

    Note: don't make the message too long, there is a size limit to your message even though the page doesn't tell you about it.

     

     

     


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    Thursday, February 3, 2011 5:45 AM
  • Hi,

    Thanks for the post!
     
    I have also tried this on my test machine and found the similar behavior. I think this is by design, if you find any inconvenience or have any suggestions, please submit your feedback to: http://mymfe.microsoft.com/Windows%20%207/Feedback.aspx?formID=195
     
    You can also visit the Feedback and Comments Forum to discuss the product with other community members.
     
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    • Unmarked as answer by Mike Soultanian Monday, November 21, 2011 6:35 AM
    Friday, February 4, 2011 9:20 AM

  • I have also tried this on my test machine and found the similar behavior. I think this is by design, if you find any inconvenience or have any suggestions, please submit your feedback to: http://mymfe.microsoft.com/Windows%20%207/Feedback.aspx?formID=195

    By design to drive us nuts!  Just because something is "by design" doesn't mean it's designed well...

     

    yikes...

     

    Thursday, June 2, 2011 3:12 PM
  • For any specific thing to be "by design" that means there was planning involved.  If there was planning involved, that means there was some (logical?) reasoning or even discussion on why it should be designed that way. 

    I refuse to accept the "by design" claim without the corresponding resoning behind the purpose of the specific functionality. 

    Please lay out the advantage(s) of this functionality over the former functionality.  Many of the disadvantages have already been stated.

    If the advantages don't outweigh the disadvantages, then we are left with two possibilities: 1) The GUI planners at MS are stupid.  2) It is a bug and not by design.

    Friday, June 3, 2011 1:37 PM
  • Answer:

    1) The GUI planners at MS are stupid.

    Monday, November 21, 2011 5:53 AM