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ISO Image will not boot system....

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Morning everyone - I have built a little system to work with Windows 7, I used the Upgrade Advisor and the little Dell (GX280 SFF) passed all the requirements so I download the ISO image and burned it to DVD using some free software I found on the web (ISO Burner) - it seems to have made a good DVD as the system does begin to boot from the DVD.
After a few minutes and the download of some files the system stops, waits (DVD activity light is solid) and then tells me that "Windows cannot communicate with devices in my system" - I can't remember the exact wording, but it seems to indicate that I may have unplugged a removable drive...? I do have the DVD burner I used to create the image attached, but without actually disconnecting the internal DVD the system won't boot from the USB DVD (I haven't tried that yet). Anyway, the process stops and when I press "Enter to continue" the boot process takes me to a couple of choices - EMS, System Diagnositcs or back to trying load files.
The system I'm trying to load it to is currently loaded with Windows XP Pro and it still continues to boot into XP if I don't select boot from CD. I have not attempted to read the DVD while in XP, but one of the posts suggests using the DVD to begin the installion from XP - though I don't really want a dual boot system.
Thoughts....
LJTuesday, July 28, 2009 11:04 AM
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Hi ButteM,
In order to eliminate the DVD drive as a possible problem, I recommend that you try a usb install (if your little Dell supports booting from usb). Here is a link to an excellent tutorial.
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/magazine/dd535816.aspx
Good luck!
Regards from the Valley of the Sun.- Marked as answer by Ronnie VernonMVP Wednesday, July 29, 2009 1:24 AM
Tuesday, July 28, 2009 5:34 PM
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The fact that the loading process freezes after a few minutes means that the DVD drive is having a hard time reading the disc and/or that the data cable between the DVD drive and the comp is damaged.
Does the setup load slowly (aka the "windows is loading files" progress bar takes a while to get anywhere)?
Can you try another data cable and see if it works better?
Can you try another DVD drive?
Try burning the DVD again with ImgBurn (imgburn.com ), and see if that helps, or try burning it at the lowest speed possible.
The system I'm trying to load it to is currently loaded with Windows XP Pro and it still continues to boot into XP if I don't select boot from CD. I have not attempted to read the DVD while in XP, but one of the posts suggests using the DVD to begin the installion from XP - though I don't really want a dual boot system.
Win7 is unable to upgrade from XP. You will have to either clean-install by booting off the DVD and wiping the XP partition for a single-boot setup, or clean-install win7 and dual-boot XP (which win7 will need its own partition). What post did you read, as I would like to see if for myself.
Post back whatever more questions you have!
Hello! Please try every solution given to your problem...and reply back with its results...
Click here for my thread on Win7 min. requirements
- JoelbXTuesday, July 28, 2009 5:21 PM -
Hi ButteM,
In order to eliminate the DVD drive as a possible problem, I recommend that you try a usb install (if your little Dell supports booting from usb). Here is a link to an excellent tutorial.
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/magazine/dd535816.aspx
Good luck!
Regards from the Valley of the Sun.- Marked as answer by Ronnie VernonMVP Wednesday, July 29, 2009 1:24 AM
Tuesday, July 28, 2009 5:34 PM -
Thanks for the reply - I have tried another DVD drive and the cables do appear to be properly connected and insterted, I have a feeling it might be something with the DVD drivers or lack there of, this is an older Dell (2006) and while it does mention booting from CD it doesn't specifically say DVD. What it does load (or seems to), loads quickly, but it always stops at the same place and it does it with three different cuts of the DVD. I will try creating a copy with IMGBURN.
I will also try disconnecting the "Internal" DVD and leave my USB version connected - the BIOS is supposed to support booting from USB.
As far as the dual-boot post goes - I accednetly wondered off the "Offical" site and ended up here: http://www.sevenforums.com/ This is where I read the post, but I can't find it again or at least not right now.
Will reply again when I have had time to work the issue a little more.
Thanks again;
LJTuesday, July 28, 2009 6:13 PM -
Hey great idea about the Thumb drive - I think I actually have one large enough to do this. I was wondering if you could simply "drag-and-drop" the ISO image, wasn't sure if the ISO burner software did anything special or not to the image itself. I will give this a try.
Thanks;
LJTuesday, July 28, 2009 6:16 PM -
Hi ButteM,
The link I inserted above refers to a proceedure for installing W7RC from a usb flash drive, not a usb dvd drive. Please check it out. If it works for you, you'll be surprised at how incredibly fast the installation of W7RC can be.
Regards from the Valley of the Sun.Tuesday, July 28, 2009 6:20 PM -
Hi ButteM,
Drag and drop of iso to usb flash will not work. The instructions are very clear in the tutorial, just follow them. 4Gb usb flash drive is large enough.
Regards from the Valley of the Sun.Tuesday, July 28, 2009 6:25 PM -
Got it - in a drawer someplace I have a 4GB usb flash drive, I just need to find it....!
I think I should be able to use the Disk Management utilities in Windows XP to format and prepare this drive, but I will keep your post in mind incase XP
doesn't want to cooperate.
Thanks;
LJTuesday, July 28, 2009 6:26 PM -
OK - there are "preparation" things to do in order to prepare the flash drive, but the tutorial clearly says that "a simple drag-and-drop" is all that is required to load the drive. I guess that making the drive "bootable" is the key.
LJTuesday, July 28, 2009 6:28 PM -
Hi ButteM,
Drag and drop of iso to usb flash will not work. The instructions are very clear in the tutorial, just follow them. 4Gb usb flash drive is large enough.
Regards from the Valley of the Sun.
Last question - the tutorial says to format the flash drive with FAT32, the ISO image (DVD file system?) is currently on my NTFS drive - will it copy "down" so to speak?
LJTuesday, July 28, 2009 6:46 PM -
It will copy fine. Nothing to worry about.
Hello! Please try every solution given to your problem...and reply back with its results...
Click here for my thread on Win7 min. requirements
- JoelbXTuesday, July 28, 2009 7:22 PM -
Hi ButteM,
I'm off to work now, but you "drag and drop" the files burnt to the dvd, not the iso image. Please watch the video that is included with the tutorial, it's very clear.
Regards from the Valley of the Sun.Tuesday, July 28, 2009 7:24 PM -
Morning - I was able to finally create a good image and got Windows 7 loaded. I downloaded a new copy from the RC Web site (not sure it was needed), downloaded IMGBURN and then cut a DVD at the slowest possible rate, IMGBURN verified that it had created a good copy and I used that to load Windows 7. I took a quick look at the other copies I had made with other software (including one at high speed with IMGBURN) and there was a distinct difference, at slow speed the image created a uniform looking set of tracks while at the higher speeds you could see variations in shades on the disk, IMGBURN acutally found errors in it's own work on the first disk. Obvioulsy the slower you cut the DVD the better the quality.
I did try to create the USB Drive as you suggested, but under Windows XP the little utility would not recognize the USB Flash drive as a drive. I tried to use the Disk Managment utility in XP and it would let me format the drive but nothing else. Reading other material and even in the video it mentions that the OS must support the recognition of USB Flash Drives as a "Drive". I now have both a new Vista and Windows 7 system and I believe that these OS will recognize these drives. Vista has something called "Ready Boost" that uses flash drives a more memory, so I'm guessing that I can create this drive from that system, Windows 7 must have something similar.
Anyway, thanks for the help and insight - I always learn something from these forums..... :-)
LJ- Proposed as answer by piepaw Sunday, August 2, 2009 2:17 PM
Wednesday, July 29, 2009 11:54 AM -
Morning - I was able to finally create a good image and got Windows 7 loaded. I downloaded a new copy from the RC Web site (not sure it was needed), downloaded IMGBURN and then cut a DVD at the slowest possible rate, IMGBURN verified that it had created a good copy and I used that to load Windows 7. I took a quick look at the other copies I had made with other software (including one at high speed with IMGBURN) and there was a distinct difference, at slow speed the image created a uniform looking set of tracks while at the higher speeds you could see variations in shades on the disk, IMGBURN acutally found errors in it's own work on the first disk. Obvioulsy the slower you cut the DVD the better the quality.
I did try to create the USB Drive as you suggested, but under Windows XP the little utility would not recognize the USB Flash drive as a drive. I tried to use the Disk Managment utility in XP and it would let me format the drive but nothing else. Reading other material and even in the video it mentions that the OS must support the recognition of USB Flash Drives as a "Drive". I now have both a new Vista and Windows 7 system and I believe that these OS will recognize these drives. Vista has something called "Ready Boost" that uses flash drives a more memory, so I'm guessing that I can create this drive from that system, Windows 7 must have something similar.
Anyway, thanks for the help and insight - I always learn something from these forums..... :-)
LJWednesday, July 29, 2009 12:51 PM