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Location of endnotes in Word 2013 RRS feed

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  • Hello, I was in touch with the Microsoft Answer Desk last week, my Case number is 1386038086. I was told that my problem was too complex and that I should buy Word 2016 (I work with 2013). Before buying the 2016 version, I would need to be sure that my problem would be solved. Perhaps it is solvable in Word 2013.
    I wish to convert my scientific articles into Pdf documents, where the endnote links are alive, just as they are in the Word document. I just bought the novaPdf software, which keeps endnote links alive in the Pdf conversion. After converting, I noticed that the links do not work and wrote to novaPdf. They analyzed the document I sent them and replied that novaPDF interrogates Word about the destination page of the endnote and that my Word 2013 reports the last page of a document for all endnotes and that novaPdf therefore cannot help. The problem lies with Word. Thank you for your help! Evelin
    Monday, May 22, 2017 2:23 PM

Answers

  • Dear Ashidacchi! I am so thankful for your reply! I struggle with this for years, and have almost given up! I am hugely surprised that you managed to convert from Word 2013 to Pdf and keep the endnote links alive! Are you sure? Perhaps we do not speak about the same thing? I speak of the endnote superscript that you can click on in a text and that will bring you to the note (endnote/footnote). If I click on this superscript in the Pdf conversion, nothing happens. Therefore I finally bought NovaPdf, after long searches. At least the endnote-superscript is alive there, yet, the problem is that it leads to nowhere when one clicks on it. Another scholar sent me a Pdf file of here work where those links do work. Only in my case, it does not work. As NovaPdf told me after analyzing the document that I had sent them, the problem is that my Word 2013 reports the last page of a document for all endnotes. I miss the time of WordPerfect, where one could see codes. I also work with Dreamweaver and appreciate that one can see the codes there. I would love understanding how NovaPdf found out that my Word 2013 reports the last page of a document for all endnotes. Thank you so much for your kind care! Evelin
    Tuesday, May 23, 2017 7:26 AM
  • Very dear Ashidacchi! Thank you so much for all your efforts! 
    Dear friend (I love your fox image!), please allow me to let you know that we have a great great misunderstanding, as it seems, concerning what we mean by "active link." You seem to think that my problem is with hyperlinks to the internet.
    Dear friend, my problem is a completely different one.
    Let me explain once more: When you look at my Word text, and you see the first paragraph, then you see that it ends with these words: "...September 19-23, 2016" Then, after that you see a superscript, this is the first endnote in the text. When you click on it, you are transported to the text of the endnote. 
    Now: when you convert the Word document into a Pdf file the normal way, what do you see? You can not longer click on this endnote superscript and be transported to the endnote text. The superscript is no longer active. 
    Therefore I bought NovaPdf. As you see in the text I sent you via Dropbox, the text by Maggie McLure, it does work. 
    When you look at my text which I sent you and which I had converted with NovaPdf, and you click in the endnote-superscript, you will see that you are transported away, but not to the correct place.
    Dear friend, ARIGATOOOO for your loving help!
    Yours, Evelin, very envious that you can be in Japan now! I would love being there, too!


    Wednesday, May 24, 2017 11:17 AM
  • Dear Ashidacchi! How wonderful, we are the same age! I am one day older than you, so I can be your older sister! I am very happy about this! Where do you live in Japan?
    Dear friend, did you see the Pdf document by Maggie MacLure that I sent you via Dropbox? When you click on the endnote superscripts in that text, you see how clicking on them transports you to them. This is how my Word 2013 acts. I am very very puzzled by the fact that your Word 2013 seem not to act like that.... I have no explanation for that... Would you have any idea what to do now?
    Sending you lots of good wishes and thanks! Your elder sister Evelin
    Thursday, May 25, 2017 6:17 AM
  • Dear Evelin Lindner,

    I opened "This_article_works.pdf" in Acrobat Reader, and found that clicking a superscripts worked as you explained.

    [this may be eureka, I hope]
    1. Insert Bookmark:
      1.1 select (high-light) foot note sentence/paragraph
          (I selected FootNote 1)


      1.2 menu [Insert] > [Bookmark] > name its Bookmark
          (I named it as "fn_001")


    2. Insert Link:

      2.1 select (high-light) words that will be a link source


      2.2 menu [Insert] > [Link]
      2.3 select a Bookmark that will be a link target
          *** before it, select [Place in This Document]
          *** and you will see Bookmarks


    3. Repeat 1 and 2

    I've shared a Zip file (includes one Word file and one PDF file exported from Word).
    [note] You'll see some errors in "Contents" in the PDF file. This is because I deleted many pages for my testing, and deleted pages causes errors.

    https://www.dropbox.com/s/4avz4wwgkrsy01b/Cities_at_Risk_Ash.zip?dl=0

    I hope this will be helpful. and also hope you will mark as an answer, if it would help you.

    #  Yes, we are the same age. No, I am one day older than you. I live in Tokyo since 1973 (I have never left Japan, so miserable).
    _________________________
    Ashidacchi (Hideki Ashida: 63-years young man, my photo was taken about 30 years ago)

    • Edited by Ashidacchi Thursday, May 25, 2017 7:50 AM
    • Proposed as answer by Ashidacchi Thursday, May 25, 2017 2:10 PM
    • Marked as answer by Evelin Lindner Thursday, May 25, 2017 2:18 PM
    Thursday, May 25, 2017 7:31 AM
  • Wow, dear elder brother Ashidacchi, you are simply amazing! You found a way to work around the problem, simply great! I am not sure whether I can burden you with my further question: I have to convert many documents with thousands of endnotes. It would take me a year or more to follow your solution, which, as wonderful as it is, is very time-consuming. When you look at the Pdf file from Maggie MacLure, you see that she did not do that work, but that her endnote superscripts seem to be alive just like that. I wrote to her, asking her how she achieved that, but she has not replied (I do not know her personally). In other words, would you have the time to think up more automatic solutions? I would be eternally thankful!
    Your younger and very grateful sister Evelin, who used to live in Ebisu when in Tokyo!  
    Thursday, May 25, 2017 8:12 AM
  • Dear elder brother Ashicacchi! This is wonderful, thank you so so much! 
    Yes, you are right, of course, we do not know how Maggie MacLure made her Pdf file. 
    Have another look at the Pdf file that I sent you via Dropbox, which I created with NovaPdf. There you see that the endnote superscripts indeed seem to behave like in Maggie MacLure's document, and in the first moment, when I saw that, I was very happy. But then, when I clicked on these endnote-superscripts, I saw that they did not transport me to the correct place. Therefore I sent the file that you have to the NovaPdf people. They analyzed it and found out that the problem is not with NovaPdf, but that it is in my Word setup: My Word does not give the correct location of each endnote, but gives the end of the document to all endnotes. Therefore, NovaPdf cannot determine the correct location to be transported to.
    Dear friend, I will send you an email! 
    Indeed, your expertise hugely impresses me and I am extremely happy with your kind support!
    Your little sister Evelin, who also used to live in Nakano!

     

    Thursday, May 25, 2017 11:26 AM

All replies

  • Hi Evelin Lindner,

    I can hardly understand you issue correctly, so let me ask some questions.
    1. Exporting to PDF with Word 2013 won't enable links to be alive?
       (novePDF can do it?)2. Does it occur only in/with endnote or occur in other reference/style?

    I've tried to [Export] to PDF with Word 2013 32-bit, and created a PDF file.  And I opened the PDF file and clicked a link in endnote, could find it active/alive.
    (I don't have novaPDF.)
    ___________
    Ashidacchi
    Monday, May 22, 2017 11:57 PM
  • Dear Ashidacchi! I am so thankful for your reply! I struggle with this for years, and have almost given up! I am hugely surprised that you managed to convert from Word 2013 to Pdf and keep the endnote links alive! Are you sure? Perhaps we do not speak about the same thing? I speak of the endnote superscript that you can click on in a text and that will bring you to the note (endnote/footnote). If I click on this superscript in the Pdf conversion, nothing happens. Therefore I finally bought NovaPdf, after long searches. At least the endnote-superscript is alive there, yet, the problem is that it leads to nowhere when one clicks on it. Another scholar sent me a Pdf file of here work where those links do work. Only in my case, it does not work. As NovaPdf told me after analyzing the document that I had sent them, the problem is that my Word 2013 reports the last page of a document for all endnotes. I miss the time of WordPerfect, where one could see codes. I also work with Dreamweaver and appreciate that one can see the codes there. I would love understanding how NovaPdf found out that my Word 2013 reports the last page of a document for all endnotes. Thank you so much for your kind care! Evelin
    Tuesday, May 23, 2017 7:26 AM
  • Hi Evelin Lindner,

    Could you share your Word document via cloud storage such as OneDrive, Dropbox, etc?
    I will try to [Export] it to PDF file.
    ______________
    Ashidacchi
    Tuesday, May 23, 2017 7:40 AM
  • Dear Ashidachi! Thanks a million! Have a look at https://www.dropbox.com/sh/07tsub8zfkxtqvy/AACKtVbOnITEugFTY4WVhK5pa?dl=0 .
    There I put three documents:
    1. a document from another scholar, which works fine: when you click on an endnote superscript, you arrive at the correct endnote.
    2. a document from me (in both Word and Pdf format, as converted with NovaPdf). This is only one example of many, all my documents behave like this. You will see that the endnote superscript is active, yet, when you click on it, it does not bring you to the correct endnote. And, as I wrote before, the NovaPdf people looked at it and gave the explanation I quoted above.  
    Thanks another million!
    Evelin

    Tuesday, May 23, 2017 10:00 AM
  • Dear Evelin Lindner,

    Thank you for sharing.
    I've just downloaded one zip file (includes three files) via Dropbox.
    I'll open them and try to create PDF files tomorrow, for it's dinner time in Japan. 
    ___________
    Ashidacchi
    Tuesday, May 23, 2017 10:10 AM
  • Arigatooooo, dear Ashidacchi! Send me a bento! I lived in Osaka 2004-2007! Thanks a million! Evelin
    Tuesday, May 23, 2017 10:17 AM
  • Hi Evelin Lindner,

    This is only an interim report.

    I've opened a Word document "Cities_at_Risk-From_Humiliation_to_Dignity_16_Jan_2017.docx", and found that what looks an html Link is only a string, not a link, i.e. nothing happens after clicking it.
    (e.g. "http://www.greattransition.org/publication/sustainability-and-well-being" is not a link, but only a string in Word document)

    I exported the Word document to a PDF file using both Word 2013 and 2016, and both of them could create a PDF file, but available links could not be found in the PDF. 
    (You don't have to buy Word 2016, if you don't have some specific needs except exporting PDF.)

    If "NovaPDF" could create a PDF file from the same Word document, I guess as a software developer, it must search specific strings such as "www.", "http://", and make a link from such strings. 

    Now, I'm searching a way to make "http://xxxx" in endnote an html link in Word document.
    (I suppose a non-link in Word document cannot be a link in PDF, without NovaPDF.)
    Please give me time (a few days), for other work/tasks are in front of me.)
    ____________
    Ashidacchi 
    Wednesday, May 24, 2017 12:01 AM
  • Hi,

    In the previous post, I wrote Word 2013 could export Word document to PDF file, but link in PDF was not available.
    I tried this or that, and exported again then I found link in PDF (which was exported by Word 2013) could work. I don't know why.... I feel bewitched by a fox(キツネにつままれたようだ in Japanese).

    Anyway, I've shared a PDF file via Dropbox.
    https://www.dropbox.com/s/muzttx9uretns4g/Cities_at_Risk_Word2013.pdf?dl=0
    (Link is available in my Adobe/Acrobat Reader) 
    __________
    Ashidacchi

    P.S.
    I open the PDF file you've shared in Adobe/Acrobat Reader, it works!! 
    Wednesday, May 24, 2017 3:22 AM
  • Very dear Ashidacchi! Thank you so much for all your efforts! 
    Dear friend (I love your fox image!), please allow me to let you know that we have a great great misunderstanding, as it seems, concerning what we mean by "active link." You seem to think that my problem is with hyperlinks to the internet.
    Dear friend, my problem is a completely different one.
    Let me explain once more: When you look at my Word text, and you see the first paragraph, then you see that it ends with these words: "...September 19-23, 2016" Then, after that you see a superscript, this is the first endnote in the text. When you click on it, you are transported to the text of the endnote. 
    Now: when you convert the Word document into a Pdf file the normal way, what do you see? You can not longer click on this endnote superscript and be transported to the endnote text. The superscript is no longer active. 
    Therefore I bought NovaPdf. As you see in the text I sent you via Dropbox, the text by Maggie McLure, it does work. 
    When you look at my text which I sent you and which I had converted with NovaPdf, and you click in the endnote-superscript, you will see that you are transported away, but not to the correct place.
    Dear friend, ARIGATOOOO for your loving help!
    Yours, Evelin, very envious that you can be in Japan now! I would love being there, too!


    Wednesday, May 24, 2017 11:17 AM
  • Let me explain once more: When you look at my Word text, and you see the first paragraph, then you see that it ends with these words: "...September 19-23, 2016" Then, after that you see a superscript, this is the first endnote in the text. When you click on it, you are transported to the text of the endnote. 


    Hi Evelin Lindner,

    I opened the file "Cities_at_Risk-From_Humiliation_to_Dignity_16_Jan_2017.docx" in Word 2013. 
    I could see a small popup window when my mouse pointer moved on "2016.  1", 
         
    but after clicked on "2016. 1", nothing happened, I could not be transpoted to the text of the endnote. This was the same as in Word 2016. 
    Let me show you my Word version.
         
    This Word is a part of MS-Office Plus 2013 (32-bit). I've installed it as a Japanese version originally, and added English language pack afterward. Are there any differences between your Word and mine?

    # This is off-topic: I've found you are very famous and talented person and you were born after one day when I was born... I feel very happy at the coincidence.
    _____________
    Ashidacchi
    Thursday, May 25, 2017 5:04 AM
  • Dear Ashidacchi! How wonderful, we are the same age! I am one day older than you, so I can be your older sister! I am very happy about this! Where do you live in Japan?
    Dear friend, did you see the Pdf document by Maggie MacLure that I sent you via Dropbox? When you click on the endnote superscripts in that text, you see how clicking on them transports you to them. This is how my Word 2013 acts. I am very very puzzled by the fact that your Word 2013 seem not to act like that.... I have no explanation for that... Would you have any idea what to do now?
    Sending you lots of good wishes and thanks! Your elder sister Evelin
    Thursday, May 25, 2017 6:17 AM
  • Dear Evelin Lindner,

    I opened "This_article_works.pdf" in Acrobat Reader, and found that clicking a superscripts worked as you explained.

    [this may be eureka, I hope]
    1. Insert Bookmark:
      1.1 select (high-light) foot note sentence/paragraph
          (I selected FootNote 1)


      1.2 menu [Insert] > [Bookmark] > name its Bookmark
          (I named it as "fn_001")


    2. Insert Link:

      2.1 select (high-light) words that will be a link source


      2.2 menu [Insert] > [Link]
      2.3 select a Bookmark that will be a link target
          *** before it, select [Place in This Document]
          *** and you will see Bookmarks


    3. Repeat 1 and 2

    I've shared a Zip file (includes one Word file and one PDF file exported from Word).
    [note] You'll see some errors in "Contents" in the PDF file. This is because I deleted many pages for my testing, and deleted pages causes errors.

    https://www.dropbox.com/s/4avz4wwgkrsy01b/Cities_at_Risk_Ash.zip?dl=0

    I hope this will be helpful. and also hope you will mark as an answer, if it would help you.

    #  Yes, we are the same age. No, I am one day older than you. I live in Tokyo since 1973 (I have never left Japan, so miserable).
    _________________________
    Ashidacchi (Hideki Ashida: 63-years young man, my photo was taken about 30 years ago)

    • Edited by Ashidacchi Thursday, May 25, 2017 7:50 AM
    • Proposed as answer by Ashidacchi Thursday, May 25, 2017 2:10 PM
    • Marked as answer by Evelin Lindner Thursday, May 25, 2017 2:18 PM
    Thursday, May 25, 2017 7:31 AM
  • Wow, dear elder brother Ashidacchi, you are simply amazing! You found a way to work around the problem, simply great! I am not sure whether I can burden you with my further question: I have to convert many documents with thousands of endnotes. It would take me a year or more to follow your solution, which, as wonderful as it is, is very time-consuming. When you look at the Pdf file from Maggie MacLure, you see that she did not do that work, but that her endnote superscripts seem to be alive just like that. I wrote to her, asking her how she achieved that, but she has not replied (I do not know her personally). In other words, would you have the time to think up more automatic solutions? I would be eternally thankful!
    Your younger and very grateful sister Evelin, who used to live in Ebisu when in Tokyo!  
    Thursday, May 25, 2017 8:12 AM
  • Dear my one-day younger sister, Evelin,

    I am a software developer self-employed. So I will think about a new solution in order for you to work with less labor. For this purpose, let me ask you to send me some (not so many) Word documents via email as attached files. I will use them to make some software.
    This is my email address:
    *** (dot) *** (at) *** (dot) ***

    # The PDF file from Maggie MacLure is a result, not a source document. So we can hardly imagine how Maggie made it. 

    By the way, I hope you will mark as an answer on my post that was helpful to you.
    __________________________
    Your elder brother Ashicacchi

    Thursday, May 25, 2017 9:49 AM
  • Dear elder brother Ashicacchi! This is wonderful, thank you so so much! 
    Yes, you are right, of course, we do not know how Maggie MacLure made her Pdf file. 
    Have another look at the Pdf file that I sent you via Dropbox, which I created with NovaPdf. There you see that the endnote superscripts indeed seem to behave like in Maggie MacLure's document, and in the first moment, when I saw that, I was very happy. But then, when I clicked on these endnote-superscripts, I saw that they did not transport me to the correct place. Therefore I sent the file that you have to the NovaPdf people. They analyzed it and found out that the problem is not with NovaPdf, but that it is in my Word setup: My Word does not give the correct location of each endnote, but gives the end of the document to all endnotes. Therefore, NovaPdf cannot determine the correct location to be transported to.
    Dear friend, I will send you an email! 
    Indeed, your expertise hugely impresses me and I am extremely happy with your kind support!
    Your little sister Evelin, who also used to live in Nakano!

     

    Thursday, May 25, 2017 11:26 AM
  • Hi Evelin my younger sister,

    I'm afraid you must have misunderstood the meaning of "mark as answer".  In this or that forum, they don't mark as answer on their own post.  In other word, you should not mark as answer on your own post.

    I suppose you are a very busy person, and that you do not have enough time to read every mail/post arriving for you. But, sorry, as your elder brother, let me say "please understand the general rules in forums". 
    __________________________________
    Ashidacchi (already drunken?)
    Thursday, May 25, 2017 12:29 PM
  • Oh, so sorry, dear Ashidacchi! Could you kindly guide me how to do it correctly? You are right, I am extremely under stress, trying not to breathe almost... Thank you so much for your kind understanding! Your little sister, awaiting your kind guidance...
    Thursday, May 25, 2017 1:06 PM
  • To be honest, you have made mistakes many times, still now. 

    You should NOT mark as answer on you own post. I cannot explain more than this.

    _____________

    Ashidacchi

    Thursday, May 25, 2017 1:14 PM
  • Again, dear friend, I would love doing everything as correctly as I can! And you are right that I am not versed in the general rules in forums. I thought I had done what I read in the automatic email to me:
    "
    If you are the original poster, please remember to click "Mark as Answer" on the post if your question was answered appropriately. This includes any reply that was post by yourself or others. In doing so, it will benefit all community members who are facing similar issues. Your contribution is highly appreciated. If you are not the original poster of this thread, please disregard this message."
    Thanks so much for your kind guidance, dear friend! Yours, Evelin

    Thursday, May 25, 2017 1:40 PM
  • Sorry, dear friend, that I was so slow in understanding, I had to mark YOUR answers, not mine. I know, I know, stupid...
    Please accept my apologies! Your very sad little sister.
    Thursday, May 25, 2017 2:21 PM
  • click "Mark as Answer" on the post if your question was answered appropriately

    As for my understanding, this means "mark on the post that has answered your question".

    ______________

    writing this on my tablet in my bed....

    Thursday, May 25, 2017 2:30 PM
  • Yes, yes, yes, dear friend, I have understood by now! Did you see that I have now marked YOUR answers? Have I done ok now? Please sleep well and know that you have a new sister who admires your creativity and kindness!
    Thursday, May 25, 2017 2:34 PM
  • Did you get my email alredy? Sleep well!
    Thursday, May 25, 2017 2:38 PM
  • Thanks a lot, my new sister,

    I thank for your marking on my  post(s) as an answer. But you might have marked on too many. I think only one post should be marked as an answer. Sorry, I don' t intend to pick up our misunderstanding.

    __________

    your new brother, Ashidacchi

    Thursday, May 25, 2017 2:48 PM
  • Hi Evelin Lindner,

    Thnk you for sending an email. I've received your mail,  and saved it  (them) in my local storage successfully.

    ___________

    Ashidacchi

    Thursday, May 25, 2017 2:54 PM
  • Dear friend, could you have a look and let me know whether I did a better job now? I am not completely sure which messages should be marked and which not.... ARIGATOOOO!
    Thursday, May 25, 2017 4:03 PM
  • Good morning Evelin Lindner,

    # Sorry, I want to stop the topic about marking as answer.

    I thought about a new program for inserting Bookmarks and Links for Word. And concluded that a software could not decrease your labor and time, because you would be still required to select sentences for Bookmark and words for Link, whichever you use Word or use a software.

    To make time-consuming work efficient, you can do in this way:
    1. at first, Insert all Bookmarks, one by one
    2. and then Insert all Links, one bye one
    #  you should not repeat [Insert one Bookmark > Insert one Link] as many times as the number of endnotes.
    _________________
    Ashidacchi

    Thursday, May 25, 2017 11:03 PM