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  • We are currently hosting our website and e-mail on a dedicated server with an external hosting company.   We are looking at moving our hosting internally.  Our website links to a MSSQL Database.  Currently we have 10 employees that need e-mail access.  After researching the best way to proceed, we believe going with SBS 2011 Standard would be the best way to proceed but we're unsure.

    Any suggestions would be useful.

    Thank You.

      
    Tuesday, June 26, 2012 1:48 PM

Answers

  • You can't "upgrade" to SBS 2011, you can only migrate to SBS 2011 on different hardware...
    Now there are ways to get back to a point where SBS would be on your existing server, if you had some temp hardware available to perform what's called a "swing migration" from a company called sbsmigration.com
     

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    Cris Hanna [SBS - MVP] (since 1997)
    Co-Contributor, Windows Small Business Server 2008 Unleashed
    http://www.amazon.com/Windows-Small-Business-Server-Unleashed/dp/0672329573/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1217269967&sr=8-1
    Owner, CPU Services, Belleville, IL
    A Microsoft Registered Partner
    ------------------------------------
    MVPs do not work for Microsoft
    Please do not submit questions directly to me.
     
     

    Cris Hanna, Microsoft SBS MVP, Owner-CPU Services, Belleville, IL
    Tuesday, June 26, 2012 7:01 PM
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All replies

  • It probably makes sense for email, but you won't want to be hosting your website on your SBS box, it's just too inviting to hackers.

    Jim

    Tuesday, June 26, 2012 2:19 PM
  • Agreeing with Jim
    Leave the website hosted where it's at
    Bringing email in house is simple with SBS 2011

    --
    Cris Hanna [SBS - MVP] (since 1997)
    Co-Contributor, Windows Small Business Server 2008 Unleashed
    http://www.amazon.com/Windows-Small-Business-Server-Unleashed/dp/0672329573/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1217269967&sr=8-1
    Owner, CPU Services, Belleville, IL
    A Microsoft Registered Partner
    ------------------------------------
    MVPs do not work for Microsoft
    Please do not submit questions directly to me.
     
     

    Cris Hanna, Microsoft SBS MVP, Owner-CPU Services, Belleville, IL
    Tuesday, June 26, 2012 2:33 PM
    Moderator
  • Cris,

      The issue is the web application is part of our production process.  We have a maintenance contract with the hosting company but one of their employees left that designed and maintain the application.  Now they don't have anybody onsite to troubleshoot or maintain the application when issues arise or changes need to be made.   

      Since it is integrated into our production environment, we feel it would be better to bring both in-house and hire a developer full-time to maintain it.

    After reading your your's and Jim's response, it sounds like the email should be hosted on its own server using SBS 2011 and have another server using Microsoft Server 2008 R2 Web Server to host the application.

    Thanks for the feedback.

    Alex

    Tuesday, June 26, 2012 2:50 PM
  • and the web server should not be joined to the domain
    You need a business class firewall as well that can actually segregate your web server from the internal lan
    You need separate static IPs for the Web Server and the SBS server

    --
    Cris Hanna [SBS - MVP] (since 1997)
    Co-Contributor, Windows Small Business Server 2008 Unleashed
    http://www.amazon.com/Windows-Small-Business-Server-Unleashed/dp/0672329573/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1217269967&sr=8-1
    Owner, CPU Services, Belleville, IL
    A Microsoft Registered Partner
    ------------------------------------
    MVPs do not work for Microsoft
    Please do not submit questions directly to me.
     
     

    Cris Hanna, Microsoft SBS MVP, Owner-CPU Services, Belleville, IL
    Tuesday, June 26, 2012 2:53 PM
    Moderator
  • Cris,

      We're looking at a Cisco ASA 5510 for our firewall.     Thank you for all of your assistance.

    Alex

    Tuesday, June 26, 2012 3:14 PM
  • Are you located in the US?
    if you're moving mail in house, have you considered device that does UTM as well?
     
    You might want to look at www.calyptix.com

    --
    Cris Hanna [SBS - MVP] (since 1997)
    Co-Contributor, Windows Small Business Server 2008 Unleashed
    http://www.amazon.com/Windows-Small-Business-Server-Unleashed/dp/0672329573/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1217269967&sr=8-1
    Owner, CPU Services, Belleville, IL
    A Microsoft Registered Partner
    ------------------------------------
    MVPs do not work for Microsoft
    Please do not submit questions directly to me.
     
     

    Cris Hanna, Microsoft SBS MVP, Owner-CPU Services, Belleville, IL
    Tuesday, June 26, 2012 3:33 PM
    Moderator
  • Cris,

      We are located in Ohio.  We are in the process of trying to find a Microsoft Partner to work with to help us out.

    Tuesday, June 26, 2012 3:49 PM
  • Where at in Ohio,
    We have several SBS friendly folks around Ohio

    --
    Cris Hanna [SBS - MVP] (since 1997)
    Co-Contributor, Windows Small Business Server 2008 Unleashed
    http://www.amazon.com/Windows-Small-Business-Server-Unleashed/dp/0672329573/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1217269967&sr=8-1
    Owner, CPU Services, Belleville, IL
    A Microsoft Registered Partner
    ------------------------------------
    MVPs do not work for Microsoft
    Please do not submit questions directly to me.
     
     

    Cris Hanna, Microsoft SBS MVP, Owner-CPU Services, Belleville, IL
    Tuesday, June 26, 2012 4:00 PM
    Moderator
  • Cris,

      We are located in St. Henry, Ohio.   It's about 20 miles SW of Celina, Ohio and about 15 miles due South of Coldwater, Ohio.

    Alex

    Tuesday, June 26, 2012 5:01 PM
  • One of the other MVPs who contributes here is in the Ft Wayne area.  I'll drop him a note and see if he knows anyone in your area.
     
    Whenever you're looking for someone with SBS experience
    a. How do you join a computer to an SBS domain? (Answer: Using the http://connect utility)
    b. How do you create a new user account in SBS? (Answer:  Using the SBS Console.  If they tell you active directory users and computers...RUN!)
    c. Ask for references that you can actually call and verify their work experience with SBS

    --
    Cris Hanna [SBS - MVP] (since 1997)
    Co-Contributor, Windows Small Business Server 2008 Unleashed
    http://www.amazon.com/Windows-Small-Business-Server-Unleashed/dp/0672329573/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1217269967&sr=8-1
    Owner, CPU Services, Belleville, IL
    A Microsoft Registered Partner
    ------------------------------------
    MVPs do not work for Microsoft
    Please do not submit questions directly to me.
     
     

    Cris Hanna, Microsoft SBS MVP, Owner-CPU Services, Belleville, IL
    Tuesday, June 26, 2012 6:50 PM
    Moderator
  • Cris,

      We currently have a Windows 2008 R2 Standard Server for our file server.  The consultant that setup the server setup active directory for our user accounts.  Would it be better to upgrade our existing 2008 Standard Server to SBS?

    Tuesday, June 26, 2012 6:58 PM
  • You can't "upgrade" to SBS 2011, you can only migrate to SBS 2011 on different hardware...
    Now there are ways to get back to a point where SBS would be on your existing server, if you had some temp hardware available to perform what's called a "swing migration" from a company called sbsmigration.com
     

    --
    Cris Hanna [SBS - MVP] (since 1997)
    Co-Contributor, Windows Small Business Server 2008 Unleashed
    http://www.amazon.com/Windows-Small-Business-Server-Unleashed/dp/0672329573/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1217269967&sr=8-1
    Owner, CPU Services, Belleville, IL
    A Microsoft Registered Partner
    ------------------------------------
    MVPs do not work for Microsoft
    Please do not submit questions directly to me.
     
     

    Cris Hanna, Microsoft SBS MVP, Owner-CPU Services, Belleville, IL
    Tuesday, June 26, 2012 7:01 PM
    Moderator
  • If you're interested in working with a consulting company that one of the SBS MVP's is part of, email me at
    crishanna at cpuservices dot com and I can provide the info

    --
    Cris Hanna [SBS - MVP] (since 1997)
    Co-Contributor, Windows Small Business Server 2008 Unleashed
    http://www.amazon.com/Windows-Small-Business-Server-Unleashed/dp/0672329573/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1217269967&sr=8-1
    Owner, CPU Services, Belleville, IL
    A Microsoft Registered Partner
    ------------------------------------
    MVPs do not work for Microsoft
    Please do not submit questions directly to me.
     
     

    Cris Hanna, Microsoft SBS MVP, Owner-CPU Services, Belleville, IL
    Wednesday, June 27, 2012 3:25 PM
    Moderator
  • Cris,

      I tried to email you but got No MX records were found for the 'cpuservices.com' domain.

    Alex

    Friday, June 29, 2012 5:01 PM
  • though I would encourage Cris to set up such MX record the domain is currently using a valid (RFC compliant) mechanism.

    What mail server are you using that complained about it?

    Saturday, June 30, 2012 1:07 PM
  • actually, we're both (all three) wrong.

    Cris has a dot net, not a dot com :-)


    EDIT: (all three) Cris must have mis-typed.
    • Edited by SuperGumby Saturday, June 30, 2012 1:26 PM
    Saturday, June 30, 2012 1:23 PM
  • Thanks SG for catching my mistake  early morning response the other day

    The email should be crishanna at cpuservices dot net.   (some day maybe I'll get the .com) 


    Cris Hanna, Microsoft SBS MVP, Owner-CPU Services, Belleville, IL

    Saturday, June 30, 2012 2:17 PM
    Moderator