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VM Protection running on Hyper-V 2012 R2 with DPM 2010 RRS feed

  • Question

  • Hi everyone,

    We recently setup  a new Hyper-V 2012 R2 server hosting virtual machine running with a Win2012 R2 server OS and 2008R2 standard Edition

    Our backup solution is still running DPM 2010.

    As I understand from the DPM Protection Support Matrix, You can only protect virtual machine running on a hyper-v server under Windows 2012 R2 OS with DPM 2012 R2. Isn't there possible any walkaround to have the vm protection working on dpm2010?

    Otherwise, if we choose to protect the VM at guest level instead of host-level, is DPM able to perform the recovery point?

    For instance, we've got a VM running a SQL database. We would like specifically to back up that SQL  database running on that virtual machine.Is DPM able to perfom that job?

    Regards,

    Evan

    Thursday, April 2, 2015 5:38 PM

Answers

  • Hi,

    To remain in a supported configuration you need to a DPM 2012 R2 server to protect the Windows 2012 R2 hyper-v server.  Unfortunately, the path to get there from DPM 2012 is not an easy one.

    Upgrade steps.

    Note: the Operating system and SQL requirements for DPM 2012

    System Requirements for DPM in System Center 2012
    http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/hh757757.aspx


    1) On DPM 2010 install the latest update: KB2751231 Description of hotfix rollup package 7 for System Center Data Protection Manager 2010

    2) Update the Agents to 3.0.8195.0

    3) Backup the DPM 2010 database.

    4) Upgrade to DPM 2012 and update agents.

    5) Install the latest DPM 2012 update and Update agents.

    6) Backup the DPM 2012 database.

    7) Upgrade to DPM 2012 Sp1 and update agents.

    Note: The Operating system and SQL requirements for DPM 2012 Sp1

    System Requirements for DPM in System Center 2012 Sp1
    http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/jj651645.aspx

    8) Install the latest DPM 2012 Sp1 update and update agents.

    KB2904723-Issues that are fixed in System Center 2012 Data Protection Manager SP1 Update Rollup 5
    http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2904723

    KB2904730-Description of System Center 2012 Service Pack 1 Update Rollup 5
    http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2904730


    9) Continue to DPM 2012 R2..

    Note: the Operating system and SQL requirements for DPM 2012 R2.

    System Requirements for DPM in System Center 2012 R2
    http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/hh758176.aspx

    10) Backup the DPM 2012 Sp1 database.

    11) Upgrade to DPM 2012 R2 and update agents

    12) Install latest DPM 2012 R2 update and update agents.

    Else, you could stand up a new dedicated DPM 2012 R2 server from scratch to protect that new server and leave the DPM 2010 as is for current protection.  


    Please remember to click “Mark as Answer” on the post that helps you, and to click “Unmark as Answer” if a marked post does not actually answer your question. This can be beneficial to other community members reading the thread. Regards, Mike J. [MSFT] This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.

    Sunday, April 5, 2015 2:10 PM

All replies

  • Hi,

    To remain in a supported configuration you need to a DPM 2012 R2 server to protect the Windows 2012 R2 hyper-v server.  Unfortunately, the path to get there from DPM 2012 is not an easy one.

    Upgrade steps.

    Note: the Operating system and SQL requirements for DPM 2012

    System Requirements for DPM in System Center 2012
    http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/hh757757.aspx


    1) On DPM 2010 install the latest update: KB2751231 Description of hotfix rollup package 7 for System Center Data Protection Manager 2010

    2) Update the Agents to 3.0.8195.0

    3) Backup the DPM 2010 database.

    4) Upgrade to DPM 2012 and update agents.

    5) Install the latest DPM 2012 update and Update agents.

    6) Backup the DPM 2012 database.

    7) Upgrade to DPM 2012 Sp1 and update agents.

    Note: The Operating system and SQL requirements for DPM 2012 Sp1

    System Requirements for DPM in System Center 2012 Sp1
    http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/jj651645.aspx

    8) Install the latest DPM 2012 Sp1 update and update agents.

    KB2904723-Issues that are fixed in System Center 2012 Data Protection Manager SP1 Update Rollup 5
    http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2904723

    KB2904730-Description of System Center 2012 Service Pack 1 Update Rollup 5
    http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2904730


    9) Continue to DPM 2012 R2..

    Note: the Operating system and SQL requirements for DPM 2012 R2.

    System Requirements for DPM in System Center 2012 R2
    http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/hh758176.aspx

    10) Backup the DPM 2012 Sp1 database.

    11) Upgrade to DPM 2012 R2 and update agents

    12) Install latest DPM 2012 R2 update and update agents.

    Else, you could stand up a new dedicated DPM 2012 R2 server from scratch to protect that new server and leave the DPM 2010 as is for current protection.  


    Please remember to click “Mark as Answer” on the post that helps you, and to click “Unmark as Answer” if a marked post does not actually answer your question. This can be beneficial to other community members reading the thread. Regards, Mike J. [MSFT] This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.

    Sunday, April 5, 2015 2:10 PM
  • Hi Mike,

    Ok thansk for details, so there is only "one way":

    - either upgrade to DPM 2012 R2, which seems tiresome

    - Install a brand new dpm 2012 R2 server.

    Not much as a quick fix!

    One thing however: in the case you install in parallele a dpm2012 server and you wish to protect all your server with the new DPM agent , can DPM 2012 R3 read and restore recovery points from a DPM 2010 database?

    You see what I mean?

    Let's say I've got a file server on which I set the protection group Under the new server DPM 2012 R2, but I still keep the dpm 2010 server.

    Would I be able to recover a backup done on tape for example by dpm 2010?

    Regards,

    Evan

    Wednesday, April 8, 2015 9:37 AM
  • Hi,

    Q1) One thing however: in the case you install in parallele a dpm2012 server and you wish to protect all your server with the new DPM agent , can DPM 2012 R3 read and restore recovery points from a DPM 2010 database?

    A1) DPM 2012 R2 would be able to "import" tapes written by DPM 2010, but the restore option would be limited to restoring the backup to a volume or network location as "flat files", not back to original location.  DPM 2012 R2 would not be able to restore any disk based recovery points made by DPM 2010 since you did not upgrade.

    Q2) Let's say I've got a file server on which I set the protection group Under the new server DPM 2012 R2, but I still keep the dpm 2010 server. Would I be able to recover a backup done on tape for example by dpm 2010?

    A2) Yes, with some caveats.  You can only restore to servers that have the DPM 2010 agent installed, so you would either need to un-install the DPM 2012 R2 agent on the protected server and re-install the DPM 2010 agent, OR, restore to a local DPM volume, then copy the files back to the protected server manually.  Depending on what needs recovered (application data versus file server data) and the amount to be restored would dictate the option to use.


    Please remember to click “Mark as Answer” on the post that helps you, and to click “Unmark as Answer” if a marked post does not actually answer your question. This can be beneficial to other community members reading the thread. Regards, Mike J. [MSFT] This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.

    Wednesday, April 8, 2015 7:48 PM
  • Hi Mike,

    Last but not least,

    until I set a new DPM 2012 R2 server, can I simply protect my VMs on a 2012 R2 Hyper V server by doing a backup of the folder in which the virtual Hard Disk (vhdx files) are?

    Regards,

    Evan

    Tuesday, April 14, 2015 9:45 AM
  • Hi,

    Unfortunately protecting Windows Server 2012 R2 workloads (of any kind) is not supported for a DPM 2010 server.   Support for Windows 2012 R2 protection was only added in DPM 2012 R2.


    Please remember to click “Mark as Answer” on the post that helps you, and to click “Unmark as Answer” if a marked post does not actually answer your question. This can be beneficial to other community members reading the thread. Regards, Mike J. [MSFT] This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.

    Tuesday, April 14, 2015 4:27 PM