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roaming users long on login

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  • hi,

    i've deployed roaming user areas on my network but the probleme is that they take a while to login with only a small profil

    at the moment it take 2min for 20mb

    i've tried redirecting file but that didn't seem to affect any thing, the file that i'm redirecting are : 

    • desktop
    • contacts
    • favorates
    • links
    • music
    • image
    • documents
    • videos
    • savedgames
    • searches
    • start menu
    • downloads

    should i also redirect appdata (roaming) or is that not included in raming user areas ?

    is there any other way to speed up the login ?

    Sunday, July 24, 2016 9:24 PM

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  • roaming profile vs. folder redirection = these are two different things and are often (but not always) deployed together (depending upon your needs)

    is it only the first logon which takes a long time? are subsequent logons faster (on the same pc)?

    which client operating system is being used? there are many updates/hotfixes available for older client OS which are beneficial

    are you using the policy setting "wait for network"? this can be useful to help avoid two logon cycles for folder redirection to activate but it can cause slow logons depending upon the computer and network hardware/configuration, after a reboot the services can take some time to startup and this will delay GP processing until all services have started on the computer


    Don [doesn't work for MSFT, and they're probably glad about that ;]

    Sunday, July 24, 2016 9:52 PM
  • for all logins and i'm testing on the same pc

    i'm running win 7 pro and win server 2008 r2

    i've activated the policy wait for network and in i've it with out but i didn't see a change

    Sunday, July 24, 2016 11:29 PM
  • Hi,

    Since roaming profile is saved on network location, it will take times to load files from network. Therefore, large profile is one of the reasons for the issue.

    In addition, here is hotfix for Roaming profile users experience slow logons on Windows 7 or Windows Server 2008 R2 may be helpful to you.

    Roaming profile users experience slow logons on Windows 7 or Windows Server 2008 R2 client computers

    https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/981830

    Best Regards,

    Jay


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    Tuesday, July 26, 2016 5:28 AM
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  • many thanks but were and how do i install this hot fix ?

    surelly there's more to it than just the registry edit ?

    Tuesday, July 26, 2016 10:54 AM
  • Hi,

    To download  the hotfix

    1. you need click Hotfix Download Available
    2. check the box the hotfix you need and fill in your Email
    3. You will receive an email about the hotfix after a couple of minutes.
    4. Open the link of the location of the hotfix to download and install

    Best Regards,

    Jay


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    Wednesday, July 27, 2016 1:45 AM
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  • for all logins and i'm testing on the same pc

    i'm running win 7 pro and win server 2008 r2

    i've activated the policy wait for network and in i've it with out but i didn't see a change

    for Windows7, there was a big Hotfix Update Rollup released some time ago KB2775511, which deploys a lot of corrections for corporate/enterprise features eg roaming profile and folder redirection and Group Policy amongst many other fixes.
    This particular Rollup is not offered by WSUS nor WU/MU but is available via the MUCatalog and it can be imported into WSUS/ConfigMgr (which is exactly what we did with it ;)

    https://blogs.technet.microsoft.com/michaelgriswold/2013/03/13/kb2775511-deployment-for-the-sccm-admin/

    You might also consider this:

    https://blogs.technet.microsoft.com/yongrhee/2012/02/19/list-of-performance-hotfixes-post-sp1-for-windows-7-sp1-and-windows-server-2008-r2-sp1/

    And also consider this: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3156417 (but this one takes a very long time to install)


    Don [doesn't work for MSFT, and they're probably glad about that ;]


    • Edited by DonPick Wednesday, July 27, 2016 7:15 AM
    Wednesday, July 27, 2016 7:13 AM
  • Hi,

    To download  the hotfix

    1. you need click Hotfix Download Available
    2. check the box the hotfix you need and fill in your Email
    3. You will receive an email about the hotfix after a couple of minutes.
    4. Open the link of the location of the hotfix to download and install

    Best Regards,

    Jay


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    that's what i've ont but where do i put the files that are in the zip that is extracted by .exe folder ?
    Wednesday, July 27, 2016 12:58 PM
  • Hi,

    The file you have download need unzip. you will see .msu file.

    Best Regards,

    Jay


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    Thursday, July 28, 2016 1:02 AM
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  • right i ended up redownloading the hotfix cause the first time it was an uncompiled version that was downloaded (so no .exe ...)!

    any way i downloaded both sugested hotfixes and both times they say that the hotfix doesn't apply to this windows!

    i've done a bit more diging and i've found out that only certain computers are affected

    i've tested it on 3 computers

    1 of them it only takes 10s to login

    the other 2 take 1 min login

    i peformed this test with the same users, same wireing and they should all have the same settings, they all take about 10 seconds to 20 seconds for a local login

    another thing is that on the 2 computers that take longer to login (on domain), when i login localy i get an error saying that it couldn't load roaming user profil so it used the local one, but i don't get that on the other computer

    Thursday, July 28, 2016 8:47 PM
  • some additional logging (userenv) may assist in troubleshooting

    https://blogs.technet.microsoft.com/mempson/2010/01/10/userenvlog-for-windows-vista2008win7/

    https://blogs.technet.microsoft.com/csstwplatform/2010/11/09/how-to-enable-gpo-logging-on-windows-7-2008-r2/

    http://clintboessen.blogspot.com.au/2014/01/how-to-enable-group-policy-debugging-on.html

    http://karthikkv.blogspot.com.au/2012/10/userenv-logging-user-environment-logging.html


    Don [doesn't work for MSFT, and they're probably glad about that ;]

    Thursday, July 28, 2016 9:02 PM
  • here are the logs from all of the three computers

    pc 3 as you can see from the log is the fasted

    it looks like the other 2 computers get blocked on a part that pc3 doesn't

    you can download the logs from here (they a to long to be posted)

    https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0BwUgegs7hygNb0c5Ql9NSFpkR00&usp=sharing

    Saturday, July 30, 2016 9:01 PM
  • here are the logs from all of the three computers

    pc 3 as you can see from the log is the fasted

    it looks like the other 2 computers get blocked on a part that pc3 doesn't

    you can download the logs from here (they a to long to be posted)

    https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0BwUgegs7hygNb0c5Ql9NSFpkR00&usp=sharing

    i've been scaning through the logs and it seems that it's mainly due to the bandwidth allocated to that computer on logon 

    • fastest computer: 134586 kbps
    • slow computers: 718kbps !

    is there a way i could fix this ?

    i peformed these tests with only one computer loging i at once, they are all the same computers, and they are al linked in the sameway to the server

    Tuesday, August 2, 2016 12:34 PM
  • Hi,

    The speed of load roaming profile depends on multiple facts.

    How many users are occupying bandwidth, the utilization of CPU etc.

    For temporary profile, here is an article below may helpful to you.

    Temporary User Profiles

    https://helgeklein.com/blog/2011/11/temporary-user-profiles/

    Best Regards,

    Jay


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    Thursday, August 4, 2016 8:21 AM
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  • the thing is that these all the same computers and when i do the tests there is only 1 computer logging in at once

    if it isn't that what could it be going by the logs that is causeing the computers to not login at the same speed?

    may i also ask what do you class as a large profil ?

    my profils are 44mb (thats the size from the first logon)

    Friday, August 5, 2016 8:01 PM
  • the thing is that these all the same computers and when i do the tests there is only 1 computer logging in at once

    if it isn't that what could it be going by the logs that is causeing the computers to not login at the same speed?

    may i also ask what do you class as a large profil ?

    my profils are 44mb (thats the size from the first logon)

    on top of that i've also noticed that this error comes back very often on the slower computers

    Could not find user by sid, finding user by session id

    i also noticed that they are having troubles binding with the server 

    Saturday, August 13, 2016 8:42 PM