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Problems with window updates of KB2518864, KB2633880 and KB2572073

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  • Hi, my laptop have 3 windows update to be install today on 22th May 2012.They are; KB2518864, KB2633880 and KB2572073. but when I have finished installed them into my laptop, few seconds later it kept on reappearing and tell me to install those updates, even when I turn my laptop off, there are windows update. And I have tried many times but it still reappearing.

    Please give advice of what to do.


    Regards, 

    Keith
    Tuesday, May 22, 2012 12:57 PM

Answers

  • As of 10 a.m this morning, detection problems with 12-035 has been fixed.

    You should be good to go now.

    The better question is...why did you guys all post into the smallbusinessserver forum?  What made you post here?

    Tuesday, May 22, 2012 7:12 PM
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  • I have the same problem 05/22/2012. Windows XP. I got tired of fooling with and have hidden these updates for now until MS FIXES THIS BUG.

    BB

    Tuesday, May 22, 2012 1:18 PM
  • o, I thought it was just me that facing this problem. How do you hidden those updates? Because it is very annoying when everytime I switch off my laptop and appearing windows update.


    Many Thanks,

    Keith
    Tuesday, May 22, 2012 1:24 PM
  • same problem here. Waiting for MS to solve this...
    Tuesday, May 22, 2012 1:40 PM
  • To hide an update in Windows XP just go to Windows Update site, after it scans uncheck the update and hit the + next to it. At the bottom of the expanded explanation of the update the checkbox to hide that update will become active, and can be selected, thus hiding the update.

    For the record I have FOUR Win XP Serv. Pack 3 PC's (2 desktops and 2 laptops) all were up to date as of 5/21/2012 at my desk - The three updates mentioned in this thread are repeatedly coming up on 3 machines as needing to be installed even though they've been installed several times already. These updates did install without issues on the 4th (a desktop) PC, so it is possible I guess to get them to install, and not continually reappear. 

    Tuesday, May 22, 2012 1:46 PM
  • I too am having this issue with these three updates continuously downloading and installing.

    So is the working hypothesis is that this is a glitchy patch from MSFT?

    Tuesday, May 22, 2012 1:49 PM
  • Had the same problem on my work PC this morning (both home PC and work PC). MS are you listening???? Please FIX this.

    To hide the updates, go to MS update website and instead of choosing [EXPRESS], click on [CUSTOMIZE] and deselect these updates and check box not to show again. You can restore hidden updates at a later date when MS fixes this. I checked my update history to be sure the updates had actually installed and they had (3 times on my home PC).

    BB

    Tuesday, May 22, 2012 1:51 PM
  • Thanks, I have hidden them. And wait til MS fix them~~


    Thanks, 
    Keith
    Tuesday, May 22, 2012 1:56 PM
  • I am having the same issue, going to try and manually update them.  MS plz fix this!
    Tuesday, May 22, 2012 1:57 PM
  • Manual updating won't fix it. Neither will the Automatic Updates - "FIXIT"

    Well this just became a world wide problem.

    Just google these words and limit the search to 1 week. You'll see.

    KB2518864 KB2572073 KB2633880

    We better wait for MS to fix it, they broke it.

    Tuesday, May 22, 2012 1:59 PM
  • Same problem with recurring updates for .NET Framework 2.0 SP2.  

    This site and many others are loaded with complaints that .NET Framework 2.0 SP2 Security Updates are repeatedly offered for installation.  This has been going on since February 2012.

    My configuration is "Download updates for me, but let me chose when to install them." And yet it installed the updates automatically on shutdown.

    Tuesday, May 22, 2012 2:00 PM
  • Same issue here, two different Win XP SP2 machines, same three updates keep appearing.

    Alex

    Tuesday, May 22, 2012 2:06 PM
  • Same with my laptop and two desktops, all running WinXP SP3 with the latest May 2012 updates applied. Microsoft, please fix this ASAP! 
    Tuesday, May 22, 2012 2:28 PM
  • Yep, same here. I have a few XP machines that run the update, say they install fine, then pop right back up saying they need to install.
    Tuesday, May 22, 2012 2:34 PM
  • Having same problem on both XP and W2003

    Jeff

    Tuesday, May 22, 2012 2:36 PM
  • me too.

    Fred

    Tuesday, May 22, 2012 2:36 PM
  • XP Professional SP3 with all prior updates applied.   Same results.

    The three KBs: 2572073; 2633880 and 2518864

    What I did to correct this:

    1. Removed all .NET versions from add remove programs - did not restart when promted until all versions were removed (1.1; 2.0, 3.0, 3.5 SP1 and 4.0)

    2. Rebooted

    3. Microsoft update site to get the .NET versions installed.

    4. Rebooted

    5. Steps 3 & 4 about seven times.

    6. So far no more popup telling me that those need to be installed again.

    7. This will be a nightmare for admins if this is the step to do as it took about 2 hours to complete those tasks. 

    Tuesday, May 22, 2012 2:45 PM
  • I am having the same problem (WinXP SP3).

    While it's not a big deal, it certainly is annoying. Why are we annoyed so easily?

    --Waiting for the fix!


    Tuesday, May 22, 2012 2:45 PM
  • Happening to my XP Pro (SP3) machines here. Doesn't seem to be affecting the Windows 7 machines
    Tuesday, May 22, 2012 2:58 PM
  • This is an annoying mess. Come on Microsoft, pick the ball up again and sort it out! I've got numerous XP clients and 2003 Servers all bleating about this issue. Rein it in!
    Tuesday, May 22, 2012 3:00 PM
  • I have the same problem. But my university is using Cisco NAC Agent. So I have to install those updates to use the internet. Luckily I also have ubuntu but please Microsoft hurry up.
    Tuesday, May 22, 2012 3:04 PM
  • This stinks, lol 3x i put these updates in on all of my xp machines home & pro. i disabled for now in updates home page. Why make update & fail lol Microsoft slipping ... Windows Vista & 7 seems ok not get this update yet.
    • Proposed as answer by Wisdj Tuesday, May 22, 2012 3:27 PM
    Tuesday, May 22, 2012 3:11 PM
  • Here the same, also on Win2k3 Servers. Short after installing they pop up again...
    Tuesday, May 22, 2012 3:27 PM




    • Proposed as answer by Dr. Sysop Tuesday, May 22, 2012 3:53 PM
    • Edited by Wisdj Tuesday, May 22, 2012 5:00 PM
    Tuesday, May 22, 2012 3:29 PM
  • I am having the same issue with the same patches, again and again! 

    Important to say that the link http://support.microsoft.com/kb/910339 provides a fix for the Windows Update. This is valid only for properly installed patches. For this case, both Method 1 and Method 2 should indicate that patches were correctly installed. However, despite "Review the installation history" of Method 1 shows correct installation, "Examine the installation of log file" of Method 2 shows no log files as expected!

    Waiting a cool fix from Microsoft...

    Tuesday, May 22, 2012 3:29 PM
  • Just to let Microsoft know: same problem here with an XP computer. No problems with Windows-7.  I will ignore these three updates untill some new ones are made available.

    Tuesday, May 22, 2012 3:30 PM
  • I am also having the exact same problem with the exact same updates --- KB2633880, KB2518864, KB2572073.  They keep appearing fior to be installed -- over and over and over again.

    Rich P

    Tuesday, May 22, 2012 3:44 PM
  • Add one more computer having the exact same problem - come on MS you can do it - help us
    Tuesday, May 22, 2012 3:52 PM
  • where can find this 50597 file? can u post link to download it -ty
    • Proposed as answer by MemphisRaines Tuesday, May 22, 2012 4:03 PM
    • Unproposed as answer by MemphisRaines Tuesday, May 22, 2012 4:03 PM
    Tuesday, May 22, 2012 3:59 PM
  • ok i done that exactly, when i  reboot i run Microsoft updates re installed then after scanning them 3 updated appeared again. Did not work i have them installed already, still showing
    Tuesday, May 22, 2012 4:13 PM
  • Petoskeyslim,

    What happens if you check for updates at Microsoft Update?

    I have the same 3 updates appearing on all 6 win XP Pro machines & not on my Win7 machines. When the updates first appeared I thought it strange as they were "out of cycle". I subscribe to Microsoft Technical Security Notifications & no mention of these updates. Googled for info, nothing current (early yesterday). I checked my update history & found 2518864 installed on 6/14/11, 2572073 on 11/12/11 & 2633880 on 2/16/12. Visiting the MS pages for these updates do not show any current changes. As the update had now appeared on several machines I decided to install it (3 machines before I wised up) with the same results everyone else is having.

    Hiding the update is a workaround but MS should be able to fix this, since they broke it.

    Tuesday, May 22, 2012 4:16 PM
  • Dr, Sysop - here is the link to the mentioned fix You cannot install updates from Windows Update (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/943144)

    But I think you will be wasting your time. BatistaJoaoMS - did you have the same problem & were you able to repair your machine?

    If yes, did you visit MS Update site after the fix?
    Tuesday, May 22, 2012 4:23 PM
  • no was waste of time, still showing them 3 updates  i just disable them again wait for ms to get a fix for it
    Tuesday, May 22, 2012 4:24 PM
  • I/M/H/U - BatistaJoaoMS has the correct solution.  I have executed the solution on all 4 of the XP PRO SP3 computers that make up my workstation with success!  HOWEVER, as I have clean, current, and updated installs of the OS and all of Microsoft's updates, patches, etc., and I have not had any problems with any of them to date until this batch of updates, I chose not to install the fix.  I have reviewed my Prefetch file (C:\WINDOWS\Prefetch\NDP20SP2-KB_______) to assure that the three updates in question have been downloaded.  Clearing the cache, stopping the service in order to completely delete the contents of the SoftwareDistribution folder (including the ReportingEvents.log which cannot be deleted with the service running), and then restarting the service overcomes the mis-set flag or parameter in the update.

    Notwithstanding, here is the link for Microsoft fix 50597...

    http://support.microsoft.com/kb/943144

    Tuesday, May 22, 2012 4:25 PM
  • This did not fix the problem on my PCs.
    Tuesday, May 22, 2012 4:32 PM
  • Dr, Sysop, sorry about that "waste of time" comment - while I was writing my post to you, you posted that you had already found the link & tried the solution. I was unaware of that post & was suggesting you should save yourself the bother because I suspected it would not fix the problem.

    Tuesday, May 22, 2012 4:41 PM
  • We need this to get in the news - has anyone seen any (news) reporting about this?
    Tuesday, May 22, 2012 4:43 PM
  • I had similar issues over the last few days that I thought I had fixed yesterday by removing .NET and reloading it.  I got a clean UM.  But then this morning it came back with these 3 patches.  MS, it is in your ballpark.  I wish you would get on here and at least acknowledge that you are working on it.

    Old enough to know better, young enough to try anyway

    Tuesday, May 22, 2012 4:48 PM
  • This forum is for SBS so I'm not sure why all these posts are being put here instead of a forum about updates? Susan Bradley has blogged that MS is aware of the problem and is working on a fix.

    Steve

    <Doug_MKK> wrote in message news:6c3b94b9-fe3c-451a-a89f-bd971e1be764@communitybridge.codeplex.com...

    We need this to get in the news - has anyone seen any (news) reporting about this?

    Tuesday, May 22, 2012 4:54 PM
  • Compukirk, thank you for the info. Do you have a link to Susan bradley's blog?

    I agree it should be in the update forum. The reason I came to this forum was a Google search for "kb2518864" produced this page as the second return and the title "Problems with window updates of KB2518864, KB2633880 and KB2572073" described the problem. I neglected to check what forum I was in. :)

    • Edited by Doug_MKK Tuesday, May 22, 2012 5:02 PM clarification
    Tuesday, May 22, 2012 5:01 PM
  • Actuallly that is not what she said.  Here is what she said:

    "Hang loose until someone in Redmond wakes up and fixes Microsoft update."

    We still do not know if anyone in Redmond has woken up and is actually working on it.


    Old enough to know better, young enough to try anyway

    Tuesday, May 22, 2012 5:01 PM
  • Sorry she also posted in another group that they were working on a fix-not yet updated on her blog.

    Steve

    <Mordock> wrote in message news:1946a16e-fef8-4d89-bcbe-cbccde5dc3dc@communitybridge.codeplex.com...

    Actuallly that is not what she said. Here is what she said:

    "Hang loose until someone in Redmond wakes up and fixes Microsoft update."

    We still do not know if anyone in Redmond has woken up and is actually working on it.


    Old enough to know better, young enough to try anyway

    Tuesday, May 22, 2012 5:16 PM
  • http://msmvps.com/blogs/bradley/archive/2012/05/21/hang-loose-until-someone-in-redmond-wakes-up-and-fixes-microsoft-update.aspx

    <Doug_MKK> wrote in message news:857211d2-a90f-4ecb-906d-9e866f92835f@communitybridge.codeplex.com...

    Compukirk, thank you for the info. Do you have a link to Susan bradley's blog?

    I agree it should be in the update forum. The reason I came to this forum was a Google search for "kb2518864" produced this page as the second return and the title "Problems with window updates of KB2518864, KB2633880 and KB2572073" described the problem. I neglected to check what forum I was in. :)

    • Proposed as answer by SilentSoft Tuesday, May 22, 2012 5:21 PM
    • Unproposed as answer by SilentSoft Tuesday, May 22, 2012 5:21 PM
    • Proposed as answer by SilentSoft Tuesday, May 22, 2012 5:22 PM
    Tuesday, May 22, 2012 5:17 PM
  • Woop... its been fixed :D if you reboot everything will be fine now :)
    Tuesday, May 22, 2012 5:24 PM
  • I just ran Microsoft update on 3 of my machines and they came up clean (1 XP, 2 2003).  So either they have pulled the updates or they have fixed the problem.  Have a great day everyone.

    Old enough to know better, young enough to try anyway

    Tuesday, May 22, 2012 5:25 PM
  • I have the same problems reported here with KB2633880, KB2518864, KB2572073. According to my msft update history I have installed these updates six times "successfully", I have several (repeat) files from the updates littering my Local Settings/Temp folder, but can't see them listed in "Add/Remove programs list.

    The only time I've had update problems with my (I hope well-maintained) winXP_Pro system was the last (May 11'th) update when KB2597162 (Office update) said it had failed to install, but as far as I could tell had installed just fine. That one was listed as failed in "update history" but was shown installed in Add/Remove list. I mention this only since there may be a connection with the present problem. I had tried removing, re-installing, running the msft fix, etc but nothing helped so I ignored it.

    Today's problem can't be so easily ignored though - are they installed or not?

    Tuesday, May 22, 2012 5:26 PM
  • Hi I'm having the same problem this morning at work we had updates to install on two windows XP 32 computers. KB2518864 KB2572073 and KB2633880 keep trying to install over and over. I have shut down and they seem to install. It looks to be seccessful but starts all over again.

    Tuesday, May 22, 2012 5:33 PM
  • Interesting:  According to WSUS, in the last 3.5 hours, they have released 13 new updates, Revised 11, and Expired 7.

    Old enough to know better, young enough to try anyway

    Tuesday, May 22, 2012 5:37 PM
  • I have hidden those updates, do you know how can I bring them back and reinstall them again?

    Thanks, 
    Keith

    Tuesday, May 22, 2012 5:43 PM
  • At this point it does not matter.  They have pulled the updates, they no longer exist/have been expired.  Sync your WSUS servers or what-ever the process is called in SCOM and the updates will no longer be shown.

    As an FYI, when you run MS Update and you have hidden updates, there will be a message at the top of the updates page, above any updates that it finds that will tell you that you have hidden updates with a link to show them.  If you are not seeing it at this point and these are the only updates that you have ever hidden, then I would say that due to MS pulling the updates, they no longer exist and thus aren't "hidden" any more.


    Old enough to know better, young enough to try anyway

    • Proposed as answer by Mordock Tuesday, May 22, 2012 6:19 PM
    • Unproposed as answer by Mordock Tuesday, May 22, 2012 6:20 PM
    Tuesday, May 22, 2012 5:49 PM
  • A new security bulletin has been released on this issue:

    Bulletin Information:

    =====================

    * MS11-100 - Critical

      - http://technet.microsoft.com/security/bulletin/MS11-100

      - Reason for Revision: V1.5 (May 22, 2012): Added entry to the

        update FAQ to announce a detection change for KB2656352 for

        Microsoft .NET Framework 2.0 Service Pack 2 to correct an

        installation issue. This is a detection change only. There were

        no changes to the security update files. Customers who have

        already successfully updated their systems do not need to take

        any action.

      - Originally posted: December 29, 2011

      - Updated: May 22, 2012

      - Bulletin Severity Rating: Critical

      - Version: 1.5

    * MS12-034 - Critical

      - http://technet.microsoft.com/security/bulletin/MS12-034

      - Reason for Revision: V1.2 (May 22, 2012): Added an entry to

        the Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) Related to This Security

        Update section to explain this revision.

      - Originally posted: May 8, 2012

      - Updated: May 22, 2012

      - Bulletin Severity Rating: Critical

      - Version: 1.2

    * MS12-035 - Critical

      - http://technet.microsoft.com/security/bulletin/MS12-035

      - Reason for Revision: V2.1 (May 22, 2012): Added entry to the

        update FAQ to announce a detection change for KB2604092 for

        Microsoft .NET Framework 2.0 Service Pack 2 and KB2604110 for

        Microsoft .NET Framework 3.0 Service Pack 2 to correct an

        installation issue. This is a detection change only. There were

        no changes to the security update files. Customers who have

        already successfully updated their systems do not need to take

        any action.

      - Originally posted: May 8, 2012

      - Updated: May 22, 2012

      - Bulletin Severity Rating: Critical

      - Version: 2.1

    * MS12-MAY

      - http://technet.microsoft.com/security/bulletin/MS12-may

      - Reason for Revision: V2.1 (May 22, 2012): For MS12-034, added

        footnotes for security update KB2660649 for Windows Server 2008

        and Windows Server 2008 R2. There were no changes to the

        security update files. Customers who have successfully

        installed the update do not need to take any action.

      - Originally posted: May 8, 2012

      - Updated: May 22, 2012

      - Version: 2.1


    Old enough to know better, young enough to try anyway

    • Proposed as answer by Mordock Tuesday, May 22, 2012 6:18 PM
    Tuesday, May 22, 2012 5:56 PM
  • o ,thanks Mordock. So next time when others new windows update come, will they be hidden automatically on my laptop? Do I need to click and correct anything now to make sure it won't hide them in the future?


    Many thanks, 

    Keith
    Tuesday, May 22, 2012 5:57 PM
  • I appear to have stopped the incessant prompting with an MS Update repair.  However, I now show 3 "successful installations" for each of the 3 updates in my update history.

    Does anyone know if 3 "successful installations" might be problematical?

    Tuesday, May 22, 2012 5:58 PM
  • no, Keith, it will not hide anything automagically.  you needn't worry about it.

    And Whateez, 3 successful installs will not be problematical.


    Old enough to know better, young enough to try anyway

    • Proposed as answer by Mordock Tuesday, May 22, 2012 6:18 PM
    Tuesday, May 22, 2012 6:12 PM
  • Doug_MKK, here you are: http://msmvps.com/blogs/bradley/
    • Edited by dmerces Tuesday, May 22, 2012 6:51 PM
    Tuesday, May 22, 2012 6:50 PM
  • Install them one by one from the newest to the oldest (Ex. KB26…, KB257…, and then the KB251…). That’s what it work for me, since I didn’t see any reason to do all those “fix it” you see all over.  Rise and repeat as needed, you may only see the second one after you install the first one, then after installing the second one you may see the first one and the second again...
    Tuesday, May 22, 2012 7:10 PM
  • As of 10 a.m. pacific, this issue of reoffering has been resolved.
     
    Tuesday, May 22, 2012 7:10 PM
    Moderator
  • As of 10 a.m this morning, detection problems with 12-035 has been fixed.

    You should be good to go now.

    The better question is...why did you guys all post into the smallbusinessserver forum?  What made you post here?

    Tuesday, May 22, 2012 7:12 PM
    Moderator
  • It definitely looks like it has been resolved although one of the machines insisted that I installed the updates again via the yellow shield before it would get rid of the yellow shield.

    Just to be absolutely sure, I am just imaging up another machine to test.

    I also checked on another machine where I had hidden the 3 updates and these have now disappeared from the hidden updates list so no need to worry about not been notified about those three at some point in the future.

    Tuesday, May 22, 2012 7:14 PM
  • It has definitely been resolved.
    Tuesday, May 22, 2012 7:16 PM
    Moderator
  • This forum's topic appeared at the top of the list on searches, it had a very specific title describing the problem, and looked very active. That is why I kept monitoring at here. I think we all owe you for letting this go through, so thank you very much.
    Tuesday, May 22, 2012 7:30 PM
  • That explains everyone else... what made Keith post here?  :-)
    Tuesday, May 22, 2012 7:33 PM
    Moderator
  • Susan I brought up the same why did you post here question several hours ago. One person said he googled and found a thread about it already started so he just piled on like everyone else without even looking to see what forum they were in. I pointed them to your original blog post and suggested a forum on updates would have been a better choice. At least it's all resolved now and hopefully no one else will continue this thread.

    Steve

    <Susan Bradley [MVP]> wrote in message news:6b01b878-960f-471c-b2e4-9c8c9121c3ae@communitybridge.codeplex.com...

    As of 10 a.m this morning, detection problems with 12-035 has been fixed.

    You should be good to go now.

    The better question is...why did you guys all post into the smallbusinessserver forum? What made you post here?

    Tuesday, May 22, 2012 7:34 PM
  • Google search. One person's post found via Google search would be why I posted here.

    Tuesday, May 22, 2012 9:07 PM
  • Susan I brought up the same why did you post here question several hours ago. One person said he googled and found a thread about it already started so he just piled on like everyone else without even looking to see what forum they were in. I pointed them to your original blog post and suggested a forum on updates would have been a better choice. At least it's all resolved now and hopefully no one else will continue this thread.

    Steve

    <Susan Bradley [MVP]> wrote in message news:6b01b878-960f-471c-b2e4-9c8c9121c3ae@communitybridge.codeplex.com...

    As of 10 a.m this morning, detection problems with 12-035 has been fixed.

    You should be good to go now.

    The better question is...why did you guys all post into the smallbusinessserver forum? What made you post here?

    Steve & Susan - thanks for your help, it really is much appreciated and the problem does seem to be addressed.

    I believe I might be the "one person" referred to, and after agreeing this wasn't the right forum I attempted to find the 'windows update' forum - there isn't one, at least, not one I could find. Also, I found how difficult navigating these forums are. (I'm not much of a 'forum' type) I did discover several posts in the windows XP service pack 3 Forum but as someone else observed they are not nearly as active as this post. I don't know why the original poster chose to post here - but his clarity in the title (his question) was certainly effective.

    Regardless of the difficulty in navigating the forums & the needless frustration this error has caused many, your help is still sincerely appreciated.

    Tuesday, May 22, 2012 9:32 PM
  • Well glad we could be of some help even though this doesn't have anything to do with Small Business Server. Fortunately Susan is an SBS MVP and also keeps close track of update issues as a side "specialty." I watch her blog closely and that's how I was alerted to the problem.

    Her question about why Keith514 was the one to first post in this SBS forum is valid but unless we hear from him we'll never know :)

    Steve

    Tuesday, May 22, 2012 10:14 PM
  • Hi Susan,

    I have no idea what 12-035 is but I am still getting repeated prompts to install these three updates.  Why am I here?  I googled the problem.

    So, thanks in advance for the fix.  What's the fix?

    : )

    Tuesday, May 22, 2012 11:30 PM
  • MS12-035 is the superceding .net update that takes the place of the three updates.  Microsoft security bulletin 12 (for 2012) - 35th released security bulletin. 

    What is your machine set on ?  Download but do not install?  If so manually go to windowsupdate and do a custom scan.

    Tuesday, May 22, 2012 11:34 PM
    Moderator
  • As of 5:05PM PDT I still have the same problem.
    Wednesday, May 23, 2012 12:05 AM
  • 1.  What's your automatic updates set to?  Automatic?  Download but do not install?

    2.  What OS are we talking here?  XP or 2003?

    3.  Have you ever installed Norton Antivirus or seen a yellow box and picked it up in the store and looked at it? ... (just kidding, inside joke, ignore this last question)

    Wednesday, May 23, 2012 12:12 AM
    Moderator
  • Attitude?

    Excuse me for stumbling across this site after being incredibly irritated by this issue and searching for a solution.

    XP SP3. Automatic, download but do not install. VIPRE. Can I continue now?

    Instead of telling us the problem has been fixed, why didn't you tell us HOW the problem was fixed. More importantly, tell us what we need to do, so we can take advantage of that 'fix' ... it was NOT obvious to me. And no (I will preemptively answer), no ID-ten-T error here ... 27 years IT/SE experience for DoD/NASA/NOAA/commercial, 500k+ DSLOC.

    It may be hard for you to grasp this, but there are actually people out there who do not religiously read every security bulletin, and for whom 12-035 means next to nothing ... really.

    Try helpful instead of spiteful next time.

    Wednesday, May 23, 2012 1:37 AM
  • Attitude?

    Excuse me for stumbling across this site after being incredibly irritated by this issue and searching for a solution.

    XP SP3. Automatic, download but do not install. VIPRE. Can I continue now?

    Instead of telling us the problem has been fixed, why didn't you tell us HOW the problem was fixed. More importantly, tell us what we need to do, so we can take advantage of that 'fix' ... it was NOT obvious to me. And no (I will preemptively answer), no ID-ten-T error here ... 27 years IT/SE experience for DoD/NASA/NOAA/commercial, 500k+ DSLOC.

    It may be hard for you to grasp this, but there are actually people out there who do not religiously read every security bulletin, and for whom 12-035 means next to nothing ... really.

    Try helpful instead of spiteful next time.

    Wow - talk about being rude and inconsiderate. READ the thread! Your answers are there! I've been monitoring this thread all day - and it's been quite informative for us "IT" people.  Since I realize you'll complain about having to read the thread, let me summarize it for you:  it was an error on Microsoft's end and they fixed it. So, reading more (sorry - forgot, you don't like to read) - you don't have to do ANYTHING - the fix is in the update and is pushed out. Problem solved.

    • Edited by Shawn Lemay Wednesday, May 23, 2012 1:47 AM
    Wednesday, May 23, 2012 1:46 AM
  • I had this problem at home and on 5 machines at work I'm responsible for. I updated root certificates (maybe not necessary, but why not) and updated Java. Problem went away. Apparently this set of updates relies on the latest Java platform to log the installation.

    • Proposed as answer by Snortley Wednesday, May 23, 2012 1:47 AM
    Wednesday, May 23, 2012 1:46 AM
  • Well, as of 7:05 PM PST I've still got the same issue going on. It was driving me crazy this morning. When I left for work I decided to install updates and shut down to see if that would do the trick. No luck. hope this gets fixed soon.

    Greg

    Wednesday, May 23, 2012 2:06 AM
  • Yes ealgumby change your attitude or don't use this forum. We're all trying to help one another and Susan has done a fantastic job since last night when she became aware of the problem in following up and helping us find out what was going on. Obviously you couldn't do it on your own. Also again this forum is for Small Business Server not problems with updates so please go somewhere else with your complaints.

    Steve

    <ealgumby> wrote in message news:6898a335-4e39-4ce4-8f90-6166c2f4284c@communitybridge.codeplex.com...

    Attitude?

    Excuse me for stumbling across this site after being incredibly irritated by this issue and searching for a solution.

    XP SP3. Automatic, download but do not install. VIPRE. Can I continue now?

    Instead of telling us the problem has been fixed, why didn't you tell us HOW the problem was fixed. More importantly, tell us what we need to do, so we can take advantage of that 'fix' ... it was NOT obvious to me. And no (I will preemptively answer), no ID-ten-T error here ... 27 years IT/SE experience for DoD/NASA/NOAA/commercial, 500k+ DSLOC.

    It may be hard for you to grasp this, but there are actually people out there who do not religiously read every security bulletin, and for whom 12-035 means next to nothing ... really.

    Try helpful instead of spiteful next time.

    Wednesday, May 23, 2012 2:09 AM
  • I go to work for 13 hours and see what I come home to, chaos I say, chaos....

    Carry on all...


    Jeremy

    Wednesday, May 23, 2012 2:33 AM
  • Has no-one heard of "Restore Point"?

    I had this issue for 2 days.

    Just restore!

    Fixed it for me.

    FWIW ... etcetera blah ooof - please don't criticize us for posting here when a simple search lands down on this turf.


    Wednesday, May 23, 2012 2:55 AM
  • I do agree with Compukirk , let's use this forum for solutions and not for complaints. I've been trying to implement what has beer recommended but still not working. Will wait for MS to fix it.

    Wednesday, May 23, 2012 2:58 AM
  • Bump ...

    Has no-one heard of "Restore Point"?

    I had this issue for 2 days.

    Just restore!

    Fixed it for me.

    FWIW ... etcetera blah ooof - please don't criticize us for posting here when a simple search lands down on this turf.

    Wednesday, May 23, 2012 3:02 AM
  • Greg,

    Sorry to hear your problem hasn't been fixed yet (after all, you know, I've heard you don't need to do anything ;) ) ... please try this to resolve the issue:

    > right-click on 'My Computer' and select 'Properties'

    > click on the 'Automatic Updates' tab

    > Near the bottom you'll see 'Install updates from the Windows Update Web site' ... 'Windows Update Web site' is a link

    > click on the link to ''Windows Update Web site'

    > click on the 'Express' button

    > wait for it while it does the 'Checking for the latest updates for your computer...' thing ... this may take a few minutes, please be patient

    > if you have any pending updates, click on the 'Install Updates' tab ... otherwise you are good to go! :)

    That's it ... the problem has 'been fixed' ... even if it didn't 100% fix itself.

    Hope this helps.

    - Erik

    Wednesday, May 23, 2012 3:18 AM
  • Brenlore,

    Here is the suggestion I gave Greg above ... hope it works for you.

    >>>

    Greg,

    Sorry to hear your problem hasn't been fixed yet (after all, you know, I've heard you don't need to do anything ;) ) ... please try this to resolve the issue:

    > right-click on 'My Computer' and select 'Properties'

    > click on the 'Automatic Updates' tab

    > Near the bottom you'll see 'Install updates from the Windows Update Web site' ... 'Windows Update Web site' is a link

    > click on the link to ''Windows Update Web site'

    > click on the 'Express' button

    > wait for it while it does the 'Checking for the latest updates for your computer...' thing ... this may take a few minutes, please be patient

    > if you have any pending updates, click on the 'Install Updates' tab ... otherwise you are good to go! :)

    That's it ... the problem has 'been fixed' ... even if it didn't 100% fix itself.

    Hope this helps.

    - Erik

    >>>

    Wednesday, May 23, 2012 3:21 AM
  • It is 8:37PM Pacific time.  The problem is still there.  It keeps prompting installation for these three updates even after finishing installing them.
    Wednesday, May 23, 2012 3:38 AM
  • Bump, again ... ealgumby that is not a solution.

    It is simply a set of blind steps ... provided by Microsoft ...  to follow for maybe fixing a generic issue that solves no specific problem.

    Again ...

    Has no-one heard of "Restore Point"?

    I had this issue for 2 days.

    Just restore!

    Fixed it for me.

    FWIW ... etcetera blah ooof - please don't criticize us for posting here when a simple search lands down on this turf.

    FWIW2 ... I know Restore is even more generic than the "solution" provided by ealgumby. Irony is not lost here ...



    Wednesday, May 23, 2012 3:39 AM
  • Restore!!!!

    Just click Start / Help / Undo changes etc etc etc

    Worked for me :-)
    Wednesday, May 23, 2012 3:46 AM
  • What operating system? XP or Server 2003?

    What is your Windows setting set at?

    I can't repro this so I'm going to need more info.

    Wednesday, May 23, 2012 3:55 AM
    Moderator
  • I'm not critizing.  I'm asking the very first poster why he posted here as there is a windows update forum.  I'm just asking for the future to see if there's a way to guide people to the best spot.
    Wednesday, May 23, 2012 3:57 AM
    Moderator
  • Good lord, where do you read spite?  I was asking a question and even joking.

    http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/security/bulletin/ms12-035

    There is a .net update for Server 2003 and xp released on May 8th.  Apparently last night some time it got pulled off the Microsoft servers and we started seeing three OLD .net updates that were superceded by the May .net updates suddenly start reappearing.  As of 10 a.m this morning the May .NET updates got reposted.  On my personal server 2003, I have auto updates enabled.  Ihad a yellow icon in the system tray.  At 5 p.m this evening, I clicked on the yellow icon which made the server attempt to install the updates.  The process "failed" since the detection had already been cleared up this morning.  But the failure was actually the update clearing out.

    So if you are not seeing this behavior I'm trying to figure out why.  As this should have just cleared out for you automatically and you shouldn't still be getting this over and over again.

    If you are, can you send me your windowsupdate.log located at c:\windows so I can send it to someone from Microsoft who said the detection problem was fixed at 10 a.m this morning.

    You happened to be posting in the small business server forum (look at the url above) and it would be nice if the very first person (who I was asking the question of) would say why he posted here, because I want to know if there's something that can be done to direct people to the right place.

    As far as attitude, I'm trying to figure out what operating system and what windows update settings everyone has. 

    I don't work for Microsoft, I'm a volunteer.  So how about we all start over and all of us stop jumping to conclusions and thinking we have spite and attitude when all I'm doing here is trying to understand what platform everyone has and why this didn't clear out..  I know you are upset that your computer is screwing up.  I've about had it with Microsoft and .NET updates myself.

    Bottom line the reason why I'm asking seemingly stupid questions is that this is the Small Business Server forum normally and so I need to ask what OS you have so I can understand and see if I can reproduce what you guys are seeing on platforms I have.  I can't repro this on server 2003 I have at home.

    I write on patching issues for WindowsSecrets.com and .NET is always a .PAIN.

    Wednesday, May 23, 2012 4:11 AM
    Moderator
  • No, it has not - perhaps the servers have not refreshed, as I have flushed the downloaded files from yesterday, yet the same problems are occurring. I have tried to install these files 4 times, with antivirus completely off, just in case of conflict. 

    I have hidden the updates for now, as I tire of this quickly - the laptop this is happening on is slower [1.6 GHz, 2GB RAM, 5400rpm HD] and with only one core, the NET Frame updates always take forever.

    Wednesday, May 23, 2012 4:12 AM
  • "Download but do not install"

    Let me run this by Microsoft.  I can't set up a box to repro this but I'm going to bet that for anyone with "download but do not install" those old updates are stuck in the software update folder and will keep on reinstalling until you reset your windows update settings.

    Let me run this by some folks I know.  Hang loose.

    Wednesday, May 23, 2012 4:15 AM
    Moderator
  • It's been fixed by Microsoft.  They won't be doing anything else.

    Please I need two things:

    1. What's your operating system?

    2. Do you have download but do not install as your windows update settings too?

    Wednesday, May 23, 2012 4:17 AM
    Moderator
  • Restore points aren't always available.
    Wednesday, May 23, 2012 4:18 AM
    Moderator
  • The servers have been updated.

    Do you have 'download but do not install" as your update settings?

    Wednesday, May 23, 2012 4:20 AM
    Moderator
  • ray,

    Windows Update is no less a 'solution' than System Restore, nor Snortley's accidental Java-install 'solution' ... anything that reinitializes the auto update logic will do. The System Restore 'solution' simply has the disadvantage of undoing anything else you may have done to the system since the last restore point. If you haven't, then go for it, no harm done, but it will do nothing for you aside from what Windows Update will.

    What is not a solution: (1) hoping the auto updates will end on their own, after just one more try, because the problem has theoretically been fixed (they won't), or (2) rebooting, and hoping that will end the relentless updates (the update notification will be waiting for you upon login), or (3) kb/910339 FixIt for Update (which will spin wheels for a while, tell you it fixed the update, but accomplish nothing in the end ... the same updates will pop right back up again).

    The problem with the MS 'fix' to this issue is that (1), (2), and (3) above will NOT resolve the problem ... THIS is why the issue has frustrated so many people! You found an answer on your own, as did Snortley; that's great. I read through this forum (yes, I did) and found the Windows Update answer here, but clearly others are still struggling with this.

    Wednesday, May 23, 2012 4:21 AM
  • Susan,

    I as many simply googled "KB2158864 Endless Loop" and of course this was the hip-hoppin - rockin first click at the top of the results list. Not to mention the fact it was loaded with information solving the issue. Now if the Windows update forum appeared of course a small majority of us would have clicked there instead :P

    But since the answer was here.. you now are the proud owner of a borderline flame war, which for some odd reason spontaniously combusted into the resolution regardless of the forum.  Thanks !! Muhahahah!!!!

    Oh By the way... Keith.. just WHY did you post it here.. when there is an update forum??


    • Edited by Paul Banyan Wednesday, May 23, 2012 4:27 AM
    Wednesday, May 23, 2012 4:23 AM
  • http://support.microsoft.com/kb/971058

    See if resetting your windows update components will make the reinstalling go away?

    Wednesday, May 23, 2012 4:27 AM
    Moderator
  • I'm having the same issue.

    OS: Windows Server 2003 R2 Datacenter Edition Service Pack 2

    Automatic Updates: Notify me but don't automatically download or install them.

    I tried to download and install these updates 3 or 4 times but they still keep reappearing.

    I'm new here and I don't know how to send the WindowsUpdate.log file.

    Best regards

    Wednesday, May 23, 2012 4:27 AM
  • Well I understand why person 2 through ...what are we up to  82?  are here, I'm still interested in why the very first person installing patches on a laptop - which is probably not a small business server - got here.  Obviously Microsoft's forum structure needs work.  So I'm honestly seriously interested in what he was looking for, what he clicked on to get here because while you got to a spot where there's people that know what's going on, it's honestly not the best place necessarily to start the conversation.

    So Mr. person one - how did you get here, what were you looking for so next time this happens we can get the forum structure to provide a better place.

    So for the future, what needs to be done better so that the question is posted in a nicer place in the future is why I'm honestly asking this.

    Wednesday, May 23, 2012 4:35 AM
    Moderator
  • I apologize, I got flustered with some of the comments and forgot to tell you my email address.  Send the windowsupdate.log file to susan-at-msmvps.com (take out the -at- and replace it with @)
    Wednesday, May 23, 2012 4:45 AM
    Moderator
  • Resetting doesn't work.. see if resetting your software distribution folder will.

    Method 10: Empty the software distribution folder



    1. Click Start, click Run, type services.msc, and then click OK.

      Note On a Windows Vista-based computer, click Start, type services.msc in the Start Search box, right-click services.msc, and then click Run as administrator.
    2. In the Services (Local) pane, right-click Automatic Updates, and then click Stop.
    3. Minimize the Services (local) window.
    4. Select all the contents of the Windows distribution folder, and then delete them.

      Note By default, the Windows distribution folder is located in the <var>drive</var>:\Windows\SoftwareDistribution folder. In this location, <var>drive</var> is a placeholder for the drive where Windows is installed.
    5. Make sure that the Windows distribution folder is empty, and then maximize the Services (local) window.
    6. In the Services (Local) pane, right-click Automatic Updates, and then click Start.
    7. Restart the computer, and then run Windows Update again.
    Wednesday, May 23, 2012 6:05 AM
    Moderator
  • Sorry, but here (Canada) it's 2:06 AM on May 23rd, Eastern Time and the problem still exists for me. So it hasn't been fixed for everyone.

    So, what are my options? I'm not a computer specialist, so I would appreciate some clear, simple directives and/or explanations on how to deal with the problem.

    Thank you,

    Luc.

    Wednesday, May 23, 2012 6:13 AM
  • Phenomenon to be detected is about repetition and KB2518864, KB2633880 KB2572073 - Microsoft Answers:
    http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?hl=en&ie=UTF8&prev=_t&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=ja&tl=en&twu=1&u=http://answers.microsoft.com/ja-jp/windows/forum/windows_xp-windows_update/kb2572073kb2633880-%25E3%2581%258A%25E3%2582%2588%25E3%2581%25B3/cff77b0c-44bd-402b-bf1a-865cbc6b9982&usg=ALkJrhhc3qR3X2Qh-FY9iBf0VZv01tEGBQ

    "Repetition will be detected and is KB2518864, KB2633880 KB2572073. "

    "The system had a trouble is a temporary problem if is installed KB2604092 (provided in the MS12-035) on your system, it is detected three updates KB2518864 and, KB2572073 KB2633880 repeatedly, currently will have been eliminated.

     For the inconvenience, sorry.

     If, if you have encountered this phenomenon is still present, restart the Windows, again, Please carry out Windows Update. "

    The only place I've found where someone from Microsoft has tried to explain this and apologized about it. Folks still impacted may want to restart their computers.  Yes I know it's a translation from Japanese, but it's what I found.

    Wednesday, May 23, 2012 6:14 AM
    Moderator
  • First reboot your computer and see if merely rebooting will clear out the patches stuck please?  Yes I know people hate to reboot but could you please and see if merely rebooting will clear this up?

    Thank you in advance if you can do that and report back.

    Wednesday, May 23, 2012 6:20 AM
    Moderator
  • I believe that resetting your updates can fixed the problem. See below what has worked for me:

     

    Click Start, Run

    Type the following:

    net.exe stop wuauserv

    click OK

    Type:

    regsvr32.exe wuapi.dll

    click OK

    Type:

    regsvr32.exe wups.dll

    click OK

    Type:

    regsvr32.exe wuaueng.dll

    click OK

    Type:

    regsvr32.exe wucltui.dll

    click OK

    Type:

    regsvr32.exe MSXML3.dll

    click OK

    Type:

    net.exe start wuauserv

    click OK

    Restarted computer

     

    Note:

    • The update balloon stayed in the systry for about five minutes and suddenly disappeared and remained in that way.
    • I ran windows update and the balloon remained dead, up to now.

     

    Try this procedure and post the results, please.


    • Proposed as answer by dmerces Wednesday, May 23, 2012 12:09 PM
    • Edited by dmerces Wednesday, May 23, 2012 12:19 PM
    Wednesday, May 23, 2012 12:02 PM
  • that procedure has nothing to do with 'resetting updates' but is instead re-registration of the DLLs, which, if already correctly registered could be expected to have no effect, or from previous suggestion out of MS, NEGATIVE EFFECT.

    I _would not_ implement the suggested procedure.

    Wednesday, May 23, 2012 12:32 PM
  • ... my answer to Susan Bradley's better question (Why is this posted to small business server?) is ... 

    Because:  I used Google search time and again while this bug was annoying me yesterday and never found anything on the web about the problem until this morning in this place.  

    Microsoft does not (or Google doesn't scan it's location) post solutions to global problems sufficiently conspicuously so that customers can know that the problem they are fighting is recognized and a fix is on the way.  If information about the fix detection had been available before I repeatedly tried to resolve it myself (thinking it was only my machine that was affected) I would have stood down and waited for the global fix to resolve the issue.

    Microsoft remember, wine may improve with age... bad news never does. 



    • Edited by Glen_CSC_Beavercreek Wednesday, May 23, 2012 1:23 PM
    • Proposed as answer by Greg F_ Saturday, May 26, 2012 7:22 PM
    • Unproposed as answer by Greg F_ Saturday, May 26, 2012 7:22 PM
    Wednesday, May 23, 2012 1:15 PM
  • I also had this problem on May22 in Germany. I have Windows XP Prof Service pack 3 - version 2022. I even rebooted the computer and was told that there were 3 updates - don't pull the plug! That´did NOT solve the problem. Later in the day, someone suggested try the Internet Explorer. I did and it found the 3 updates. I then clicked to install them and at the end - it stated everything works OK. I then ran the test again and it found the same 3 updates!!!! I again clicked to install again and like before it stated all is OK. I then check again for updates and THIS time it stated there are no new updates!The time on May 22 was about 16:00 CET (10:00 Eastern time).

    Today I checked the update history and found  20 (or more) updates on May 22 and that all ended "OK".


    Tuesday, June 05, 2012 3:30 PM
  • Still not resolved. I have a fresh gen of XP Pro SP3 so nothing to roll-back to.

    I did the:

    Method 10: Empty the software distribution folder

    And that solved the problem for the rest of the day. This morning I came and there were 8 updates. I did that, and "They're Back!!" Again & Again & Again....

    Wednesday, June 06, 2012 4:33 PM
  • Hi Susan,

    I have a dilemma.

    I have SBS-2008, and downloaded several updates last Tuesday and Wednesday.

    Ever since, I have had thousands of SEL's (system event logs) in Application, System, and Security.

    I clear the logs, but the come back by the hundreds.

    For example, in just one hour, I got 155 events in Application, 4,055 in Security, and 51 in System.

    I can provide a listing of the common events that I get if you would like.

    I am not a competent network guy by any means, but it falls under my area of responsibility.

    We are a small business, with one Dell PowerEdge T610 server, with 11 workstations running off of the server.

    I've not had any problems downloading updates for Windows, Micrisoft SBS-2008, or Viper software over the last 9 months, until this past week.

    Help !

    Monday, June 18, 2012 8:28 PM
  • Rick, can you start a new thread as it doesn't sound like it has anything to do with this one.

    It's normal for a SBS to have chatty event logs btw.

    Monday, June 18, 2012 8:44 PM
    Moderator
  • I can and I will.........

    Monday, June 18, 2012 9:03 PM
  • Susan,

    Here is the Forum that I actually started last Friday about my issues:

    Resources for IT Professionals > Forums Home > Windows Small Business Server Forums > Small Business Server > System Event Log error messages regarding Windows SharePoint Services 3
    Monday, June 18, 2012 9:08 PM
  • Let's post over there, as again, this has nothing to do with this thread.  Thanks for understanding.
    Monday, June 18, 2012 9:19 PM
    Moderator
  • I take it there still isn't a fix for the 3 Stooges not registering as installed? I just cleaned out the SoftwareDist folder because I got tired of seeing the notice every time I log in.
    Friday, June 22, 2012 11:40 AM
  • The "fix" occurred weeks ago.  If you are still seeing this, I'm guessing you had the setting "download but do not install"?

    Are you still seeing this behavior after you cleared out the software distribution folder?

    Friday, June 22, 2012 2:03 PM
    Moderator
  • Susan,

    Researching the same repititive update problem with KB2518864 etc and it does not appear to be fixed with regard

    to our Server running SBS 2003 SP2. Any resolutions or fixes I could apply as all clients in our system keep getting the

    que to update KB2518864 and KB2572073.

    Thanks

    Wednesday, August 08, 2012 2:29 PM
  • Got same problem on all our machines at job.
    The problem was solved by
    * Permanently discontinue antivirus program (regardless of brand).
    * Install updates
    * Restart the computers
    * Rerun Windows / Microsoft Update
    * Restart the computers
    * Connect antivirus program

    thats' it

    Regards
    Jimmy

    Tuesday, August 28, 2012 12:58 PM
  • At our company we got same problem on all out windows 7 pro machines with different hardware configurations.
    The problemwas solved by:
    *Permanently discontinueantivirusprogram(regardless of brand).
    *Installupdates
    *Restartthe computers
    *RerunWindows/Microsoft Update
    *Restartthe computers
    *Connectantivirus program

    thats' it

    Regards,
    Jimmy Rehak

                           
    Tuesday, August 28, 2012 1:01 PM
  • At our company we got same problem on all out windows 7 pro machines with different hardware configurations.
    The problem was solved by:

    *Permanently disconnect anti virus program (regardless of brand).
    *Install updates

    *Restart the computers

    *Rerun Windows/Microsoft Update

    *Restart the computers

    * Re-connect antivirus program

    thats' it

    Regards, Jimmy Rehak

    Tuesday, August 28, 2012 1:06 PM
  • If you have KB2604092 installed, this post is for you...

    These three updates have been replaced by KB2604092 (MS12-035). Look under the "Update Replacement" section.

    Apparently the Installer does not report and detect this condition properly as installing any of the three will return a "Installation Successful" message - a false positive when KB2604092 is already installed.  Through some trial and error by removing then re-installing .NET Framework 2.0 SP2 and applying each KB update one by one in the order they were relesaed.  All three would install properly until KB2604092 was installed.  Then all three would disappear from the add/remove progams list.  The obersvation lead me to look more into KB2604092.  The good news is the vulnerabilities are being covered, albeit by another update. So no need to worry about waiting for a fix or uninstalling/reinstalling .NET Framework.  Just make sure you have KB2604092 installed and decline the three older updates.

    Possible solutions to stop notifications.  I'm not going into details since it can be found elsewhere online:

    -Windows Update, Online: Select the custom button and uncheck the update you wish to decline.  Accept the option "Don't notify again...".

    -WSUS: Decline/unapprove theses updates at the WSUS server so they don't get pushed to clients and servers.

    Good luck!

    Bryan


    • Edited by Mark0ne808 Tuesday, December 18, 2012 7:09 AM
    Tuesday, December 18, 2012 7:07 AM