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  • Question

  • Hi everybody,

    I use SCCM from many years but there is something that I didn't understand.

    How did the information come up from the client to the server ?

    For example, in my client settings, I set that the compliance settings occus every 7 days. If the computer is offline when this action needs to be perform, what appends ? This run at the next startup ? Or it will wait 7 days again ?

    And when we deploy an application, how many times to : the client receive the new application ? The client install the application ? And at the end of the installation, SCCM server is update and know immediatly that this client as installed the application ?

    Many thanks for your help.

    Best regards

    Monday, April 27, 2020 6:17 AM

Answers

  • Policy should be there in a short period of time after the task sequence ends -- initial policy download and evaluation takes a bit longer since the system has never received or processed policy before but this will be initiated immediately.

    Once the policy is received and processed, then any other actions resulting from the policy will be scheduled. Some of these are throttled though, like initial hardware inventory so unless your deployments are targeting All Systems, the initial policy won't have your deployments anyway. Also, even after hw inv is submitted, the collections need to update. It's a domino/waterfall effect and is by no means instant.

    The entire intent of using a ts is for it to deploy a finished product. Anything else is just fighting against the current. This includes apps as well as updates.

    note that for App Re-evaluation, the "re" part is key. That means after initial deployment so no, you don't have to wait 7 days and that scheduled action is unrelated to initial app deployment.


    Jason | https://home.configmgrftw.com | @jasonsandys

    • Marked as answer by user_007 Wednesday, April 29, 2020 2:26 PM
    Wednesday, April 29, 2020 2:16 PM

All replies

  • Hi,

    Compliance reporting will not wait until next 7 days it will report back when it comes online after a missed reporting time.

    App deployment are reported back with state messages which is really fast and not on any interval.

    Regards,

    Jörgen


    -- My Enterprise Mobility blog ccmexec.com -- Twitter @ccmexec

    Monday, April 27, 2020 10:18 AM
  • Hi,

    Thanks for your quick answer.

    Ok for compliance.

    If I understand, we can't know when the client send state to server ?

    And for windows updates ? It the same as application ?

    Best regards

    Monday, April 27, 2020 10:40 AM
  • And for hardware inventory. It occurs every 7 days. If the computer is offline when it needs to occur. It will start automatically at the next boot ? Or it will wait 7 days ?

    Thanks a lot.

    Monday, April 27, 2020 11:17 AM
  • It's the same story for everything. It will catch up on any missed schedules as soon as it can and will send the data to the site as soon as possible. Note that being disconnected from the site doesn't prevent the client from perform the action, just sending the resulting data which will be cached and queued for delivery when the connection to the site is re-established.

    Jason | https://home.configmgrftw.com | @jasonsandys

    Monday, April 27, 2020 2:22 PM
  • Many thanks it's really clear now for me :-)

    Just a last question. We deploy OS with task sequence. In the task sequence, we don't deploy any application. It's after when the user receive the policy that it knows which application it needs to install. How many time we need to wait until the new computer receive the policy and then deploy the application ? It needs first to receive the policy (how many time to receive it) and the it need to do a application discovery ? As it's the first time that the client exists, does it run all actions ?

    Best regards

    Monday, April 27, 2020 3:04 PM
  • > How many time we need to wait until the new computer receive the policy and then deploy the application ?

    That depends on how the applications is deployed and the targeting details.

    It needs first to receive the policy (how many time to receive it) and the it need to do a application discovery ?

    That also depends on the configuration of your site. By default it's every 60 minutes but whether or not that policy has the deployments in it depends on the targeting details as noted.

    As it's the first time that the client exists, does it run all actions ?

    Why would it run all actions? That has no value. All actions are scheduled and will run at their scheduled times there are also first time caveats.

     In the task sequence, we don't deploy any application.

    Why not?


    Jason | https://home.configmgrftw.com | @jasonsandys

    Monday, April 27, 2020 3:26 PM
  • Hi,

    Thanks for posting in TechNet.

    State messaging in Configuration Manager is a mechanism that reflects a client condition at a certain point in time. Status messages, by contrast, work to help administrators track the workflow of data through various Configuration Manager components.

    State messages contain concise information about conditions in-place on the client. The state messaging system is used by specific components of Configuration Manager, such as software updates, desired configuration management, and network access protection.

    Please refer to: Description of state messaging in System Center Configuration Manager

    Thanks for your time.

    Best regards,
    Simon

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    Tuesday, April 28, 2020 7:18 AM
  • Hi everybosy

    It needs first to receive the policy (how many time to receive it) and the it need to do a application discovery ?

    That also depends on the configuration of your site. By default it's every 60 minutes but whether or not that policy has the deployments in it depends on the targeting details as noted.

    -----> Yes the policy is receive every 60 minutes. But when we deploy a new computer with task sequence, the client need to wait 60 minutes before it receive the policy or in case of an os task sequence, it receive immediatly the policy ?

    As it's the first time that the client exists, does it run all actions ?

    Why would it run all actions? That has no value. All actions are scheduled and will run at their scheduled times there are also first time caveats.

    -----> So you don't have to wait. For application and WU installation occurs immediatly at the end of the OS deployment. In the client policy, the "Software deployment -> schedule re evaluation for deployment" is set to occurs every 7 days. In case of a new OS deployment, we need to wait 7 days before the client install the application ?

     In the task sequence, we don't deploy any application.

    Why not?

    -----> I don't know, we do that initially (more years agO) but we had problems.

    Thanks a lot for your help and explanation

    Best regards.


    Wednesday, April 29, 2020 5:35 AM
  • Policy should be there in a short period of time after the task sequence ends -- initial policy download and evaluation takes a bit longer since the system has never received or processed policy before but this will be initiated immediately.

    Once the policy is received and processed, then any other actions resulting from the policy will be scheduled. Some of these are throttled though, like initial hardware inventory so unless your deployments are targeting All Systems, the initial policy won't have your deployments anyway. Also, even after hw inv is submitted, the collections need to update. It's a domino/waterfall effect and is by no means instant.

    The entire intent of using a ts is for it to deploy a finished product. Anything else is just fighting against the current. This includes apps as well as updates.

    note that for App Re-evaluation, the "re" part is key. That means after initial deployment so no, you don't have to wait 7 days and that scheduled action is unrelated to initial app deployment.


    Jason | https://home.configmgrftw.com | @jasonsandys

    • Marked as answer by user_007 Wednesday, April 29, 2020 2:26 PM
    Wednesday, April 29, 2020 2:16 PM
  • Many thanks for all your explanation and time !

    Very happy.
    Have a nice day.
    See you soon :-)

    Wednesday, April 29, 2020 2:27 PM
  • See you soon :-)

    ?


    Jason | https://home.configmgrftw.com | @jasonsandys

    Wednesday, April 29, 2020 2:31 PM