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when is 2012 sp1 coming out?

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  • It is now September 4th, and Windows Server 2012 is officially released - when will dpm 2012 sp1 be out so we can protect all our 2012 file servers?
    Tuesday, September 04, 2012 3:24 PM

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  • It’s official! SC 2012 SP1 has RTM’d.

    Few notes to make the upgrade path crystal clear: 

    •          General Availability is targeted for early January. 
    •          Upgrade from Sp1 Beta is only supported for TAP customers who installed RC.
    •      Non-TAP customers will only be able to upgrade from DPM 2012 RTM (+ qfe's) to DPM 2012 SP1 RTM.
    •      There is no upgrade path from BETA Sp1 to RTM Sp1, you must reinstall DPM 2012 RTM, then upgrade to SP1 RTM. 

    Technet content will be updated to include new supported workloads in SP1 of Exchange 2013 and Sharepoint 2013.


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    Wednesday, December 12, 2012 12:24 AM
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  • Hi

    I would also like to know, from what i can see below they are talking about what is coming in SP1 (currently in CTP2). Cannot find a release date yet, i presume it will be soon..

    http://blogs.technet.com/b/heartland_datacenter_specialists/archive/2012/08/21/what-s-coming-with-system-center-2012-sp1.aspx

    From Microsoft employee on this blog it seems to be several months till we get the final release:

    http://blogs.technet.com/b/dpm/archive/2012/06/15/announcing-the-availability-of-system-center-2012-sp1-community-technology-preview-2.aspx

    Tuesday, September 04, 2012 3:38 PM
  • Server 2012 is now officially released - when will we see dpm 2012 sp1?
    Wednesday, September 05, 2012 4:02 AM
  • You can get SP1 beta from here: http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=34607

    Apparently there is no official word about supported upgrade paths though for any of the products other than DPM. Only the DPM team has stated that they'll support upgrading from Beta --> RC --> RTM.

    The DPM team made a post on this here: http://blogs.technet.com/b/dpm/archive/2012/09/11/system-center-2012-service-pack-1-beta-now-available-for-download.aspx


    Aaron Marks

    Sunday, September 16, 2012 12:14 AM
  • Now it is the 2nd week of December does anyone have an updates when SP1 is going to be in RC or RTM?
    Tuesday, December 11, 2012 9:48 PM
  • It’s official! SC 2012 SP1 has RTM’d.

    Few notes to make the upgrade path crystal clear: 

    •          General Availability is targeted for early January. 
    •          Upgrade from Sp1 Beta is only supported for TAP customers who installed RC.
    •      Non-TAP customers will only be able to upgrade from DPM 2012 RTM (+ qfe's) to DPM 2012 SP1 RTM.
    •      There is no upgrade path from BETA Sp1 to RTM Sp1, you must reinstall DPM 2012 RTM, then upgrade to SP1 RTM. 

    Technet content will be updated to include new supported workloads in SP1 of Exchange 2013 and Sharepoint 2013.


    Please remember to click “Mark as Answer” on the post that helps you, and to click “Unmark as Answer” if a marked post does not actually answer your question. This can be beneficial to other community members reading the thread. Regards, Mike J. [MSFT] This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.

    Wednesday, December 12, 2012 12:24 AM
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  • Link?
    Wednesday, December 12, 2012 1:26 AM
  • Hi Mike, I noticed your announcement disappeared from the top of the forum - do we know when the download will be available via TechNet or VLSC?

    Thanks!

    Wes

    Wednesday, December 12, 2012 11:23 PM
  • Hi,

    No, sorry, I'm not privy to the official release of the RTM bits.  Be patient, they're coming...


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    Wednesday, December 12, 2012 11:34 PM
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  • "It’s official"

    This is very exciting news!  But is there any other place on the internet other than this thread (and the articles that refer here) where we can verify this announcement?

    :-)

    Also, can we upgrade from DPM 2012 RTM (on WinSvr2008 R2 SP1), to DPM 2012 SP1?  Or must we re-install using WinSvr2012 as the base OS?

    Thanks,

    Ian

    Thursday, December 13, 2012 12:07 AM
  • Thanks Mike for the update, I am going to have some patience and not install the beta at this point.  Just an update, I have a login to the Volume Licensing Service Center and I haven't seen SP1 yet for System Center 2012 Standard or DataCenter....I will keep checking back.
    Friday, December 14, 2012 12:26 AM
  • Rumor is that link will be available next year!
    • Edited by Matthew Carter Friday, December 14, 2012 7:06 PM Bad grammer
    Friday, December 14, 2012 7:05 PM
  • Availability of sc2012 sp1 rtm for sa costumers is probably 3.1.13
    Saturday, December 15, 2012 12:45 AM
  • Is that March 1, 2013 or January 3, 2013.  Depending on where you live that could be interpreted either way.

    Bob

    Monday, December 17, 2012 6:24 PM
  • Since the general availability is planned for early January it should be January 3, 2013. But i still hope that SA or MSDN Customers get it earlier.
    Tuesday, December 18, 2012 8:40 AM
  • I could live with Jan 3, 2013.  As a matter of fact it would be preferable, that way I can ignore it during the holiday and not spend my off time playing with it in the lab :)  I would really like to see something official on it. 

    Bob

    Tuesday, December 18, 2012 2:15 PM
  • Available on Technet:


    System Center 2012 – Data Protection Manager with Service Pack 1 (x64) - DVD


    Is there going to be a separate SP?  Dont tell me we have to reinstall the entire thing???


    EDIT:

    The new release is 1.5GB larger.  I wonder if the SP is just in a folder (like office).  Oddly, the endpoint release is 900MB smaller.  WTH Microsoft?



    • Edited by JEmlay Thursday, December 20, 2012 7:17 PM
    Thursday, December 20, 2012 7:12 PM
  • The software looks like it sees what is there and then installs the updates (no need to uninstall and reinstall), but I haven't done it yet.  Key words, "looks like".  A separate SP1 file would be really helpful, instead of having the whole thing, though.
    Thursday, December 20, 2012 10:08 PM
  • Been trying to download it all day.  Failed 3 times and the best I can get is 150KB/sec.  I'm on a 30Mbps line.  Try again tomorrow I guess...

    Thursday, December 20, 2012 10:40 PM
  • Yay! The download worked (for VMM and SCCM at least). This is the only christmas present i need ^^.
    Friday, December 21, 2012 8:50 AM
  • Which channel did you use for download?

    In Germany there is no SP1 availible as SA.

    Friday, December 21, 2012 1:10 PM
  • MSDN and technet only at the moment
    • Proposed as answer by gnst Friday, December 21, 2012 2:41 PM
    Friday, December 21, 2012 1:53 PM
  • Looks like the versions on TechNet of System Center are slipstreamed versions of SP1.  Yeah, no need to install and then apply SP1.  Looks like the SP1 for existing sytems will come from download.microsoft.com, but it doesn't appear to be available yet.  But it's close.

    Bob

    Friday, December 21, 2012 3:14 PM
  • So when can we expect SCCM 2012 SP1 on VLSC for Volume Licensing customer?

    /SaiTech

    Tuesday, December 25, 2012 7:47 PM
  • Rumors that I have heard is that it will be first week or two of January for the release to be fully available, but that's a rumor, and I have no proof to back it up.  It would make sense, however, thanks to the release of it on Technet and MSDN.

    Wednesday, December 26, 2012 3:35 PM
  • Hi,

    I have downloaded SP1 from MSDN.

    Some question because I havn't used MSDN for quite some time:

    1. Is this the same version as the one that can be "officially" downloaded by everyone?
    2. Will our normal Key work?
    3. Are we allowed to use it in our productive environment?

    Thanks in advance!

    regards

    /bkpfast

    UPDATE: Found it myself I guess:
    http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/subscriptions/dd362338.aspx


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    • Edited by bkpfast Thursday, December 27, 2012 1:05 PM research
    Thursday, December 27, 2012 11:11 AM
  • For anyone that wants to know, the upgrade works fine.  If you cannot or do not want to wait for a stand alone SP then just download DPM 2012 WITH SP1 and run the installer.  It upgrades your install to SP1.  Provided of course you have access MSDN or Technet or any other source it's been found at.

    Server 2012, DPM 2012 working great now.  I can finally test some restores.

    Thursday, December 27, 2012 6:43 PM
  • I can also confirm that SCCM and SCOM upgrade form SP1 media working fine.

    Friday, December 28, 2012 10:06 AM
  • In looking at the Volume Licensing site, it looks like the full  installers with SP1 were released yesterday!
    Wednesday, January 02, 2013 7:16 PM
  • I can confirm I see it released 1/1/13 also.
    Wednesday, January 02, 2013 8:27 PM
  • Ok, that's sounds good for those folks who never installed System Center 2012 so they can install suite with SP1 right away.

    What about folks like me who is already enjoying System Centre 2012 for many month but was missing functionality like Windows 8 support in SCCM 2012 or HYPERV 2012 support in SCVMM 2012? Where I can download Service Pack 1?

    Just to make it clear: I'm asking about Service Pack 1, not System Centre with Service Pack 1. I hope you see the difference :-)

    I cannot find any link to SP1 download yet...

    Thursday, January 03, 2013 1:39 PM
  • Ok, that's sounds good for those folks who never installed System Center 2012 so they can install suite with SP1 right away.

    What about folks like me who is already enjoying System Centre 2012 for many month but was missing functionality like Windows 8 support in SCCM 2012 or HYPERV 2012 support in SCVMM 2012? Where I can download Service Pack 1?

    Just to make it clear: I'm asking about Service Pack 1, not System Centre with Service Pack 1. I hope you see the difference :-)

    I cannot find any link to SP1 download yet...

    i don't think there will be SP1 standalone installer, this time SP1 is more like R2 in previous versions.

    If SP1 standalone would be availaible why to include upgrade'r in media....

    my 5 cents

    Thursday, January 03, 2013 2:34 PM
  • Are you kidding me or what?

    Let's say you have Exchange 2010. Now SP1 is out. So you need to remove Exchange, and then install Exchange 2010 SP1? Are you kidding?

    Always there is Service Pack and FULL media with SP embedded, for those who install fresh. Why bother installing RTM and then SP1 if you can install SP1 right away?

    So please don't make jokes like this one :-) LoL! SP1 must be out. There is no way that I will be re-building SCCM, SCOM, SCDPM and SCVMM from scratch. VMM I can actually, this is piece of cake. 30 minutes and it's done. But DPM and SCOM in big environment you are looking years of labour :-)

    This is my 2 cents :-)

    Thursday, January 03, 2013 2:40 PM
  • Are you kidding me or what?

    Let's say you have Exchange 2010. Now SP1 is out. So you need to remove Exchange, and then install Exchange 2010 SP1? Are you kidding?

    Always there is Service Pack and FULL media with SP embedded, for those who install fresh. Why bother installing RTM and then SP1 if you can install SP1 right away?

    So please don't make jokes like this one :-) LoL! SP1 must be out. There is no way that I will be re-building SCCM, SCOM, SCDPM and SCVMM from scratch. VMM I can actually, this is piece of cake. 30 minutes and it's done. But DPM and SCOM in big environment you are looking years of labour :-)

    This is my 2 cents :-)

    I have istalled already UR1-3 and know that SCOM upgrade in bin enviroment take hours, but this is not a problem for me

    I compared UR3 adn SP1 upgrade process in test enviroment, SP1 takes 10min longer, so SP1 will be also longer in production.

    I also don't think there will be time difference between upgarade from SP1 or FUll media with SP1

    and there is no need to re-build SC-s from scratch, i'm already upgraded SCCM, SCOM, DP, SCSM, ORCH and SCVMM in test enviroment and planning do this in production soon.

     
    Thursday, January 03, 2013 3:01 PM
  • Hi Lync15

    Exchange 2010 is currently on SP2 so no you would not need to re-install Exchange 2010. This service pack is for system center products. I have installed SP1 for all my System Center products without any issues.

    Thursday, January 03, 2013 3:05 PM
  • Let's say you have Exchange 2010. Now SP1 is out. So you need to remove Exchange, and then install Exchange 2010 SP1? Are you kidding?

    as DareDevil57 mensions, U dont' need to remove SC products to upgrade, In-place upgrade, SCORCH is exception, u must to remove it before, but U will not loos nothing, same DB will be reused.
    Thursday, January 03, 2013 3:32 PM
  • Ok, get it. Honestly I did not know that, or at least I did not think about this seriously.

    I will try today and let you know if it is working as you say. Thanks!

    Thursday, January 03, 2013 5:57 PM
  • I believe that SC2012 SP1 is as of now (1/3/13) available for VL clients as well (and SPLA of course).

    Just started downloading it...


    Thursday, January 03, 2013 7:08 PM
  • Ok, I finished downloading and started deploying. My first choice (low hanging fruit) was SC VMM 2012. You know, no impact, always easy to deploy etc. And right away first disappointment: you cannot update VMM 2012 to SP1. You have to completely uninstall and then re-install the product. As small bonus (prize I guess) you can keep the database so you can re-connect to the same database and preserve the settings. In my case I have only 5-6 HYPERV servers and it is always easy to remove them from VMM, re-install VMM with SP1, and then re-add HYPERV hosts. Here is the proof that SP1 is not installing on top of SC VMM 2012 so whoever told me that "U dont' need to remove SC products to upgrade" I guess was not quite right :-)

    Thursday, January 03, 2013 7:31 PM
  • forgot to mention SCVMM as well, so only two products need to be removed first: VMM and ORCH.

    but there is no difference, U will not loose any data, SP1 will reuse old database

    I love much better remove and install over upgrade method, because in first one there is a little bit smaller chance of upgrade failure.

    U first remove old files, and then Install new ones. When U upgrade in place, files are overwritten during upgrade process, if some file is used and cannot be remove, upgrade process may fall. It will take about same time, remove, copy new files, configure dB vs configure DB + replace files

    Thursday, January 03, 2013 7:52 PM
  • Add Orchestrator to the list of products that need to be uninstalled, then re-installed from SP1 media.  WTF?

    http://www.windowsitpro.com/article/system-center-2012/upgrade-orchestrator-2012-sp1-144281

    Friday, January 04, 2013 3:25 PM
  • Ok, I finished downloading and started deploying. My first choice (low hanging fruit) was SC VMM 2012. You know, no impact, always easy to deploy etc. And right away first disappointment: you cannot update VMM 2012 to SP1. You have to completely uninstall and then re-install the product. As small bonus (prize I guess) you can keep the database so you can re-connect to the same database and preserve the settings. In my case I have only 5-6 HYPERV servers and it is always easy to remove them from VMM, re-install VMM with SP1, and then re-add HYPERV hosts. Here is the proof that SP1 is not installing on top of SC VMM 2012 so whoever told me that "U dont' need to remove SC products to upgrade" I guess was not quite right :-)

    In danger of Hi-jacking a DPM thread, but hey ho...

    The reason SCVMM cannot be upgraded from RTM is that SP1 has a requirement on Windows Server 2012 as its underlying OS.  Since SCVMM RTM was only supported on W2K8R2 then there is no upgrade path other than backup the DB, deploy a new 2012 Server, restore the DB to a new SQL instance, install SCVMM SP1 and point to old DB.

    Annoying, yes, but needed to be able to support the new Server 2012 Hyper-V through the underlying OS that SCVMM is installed on.

    One thing to watch out for though... make sure you've got the Windows Server 2012 CAL's to allow you to do this ;)

    Regards,
    Steve


    My System Center Blog

    Friday, January 04, 2013 8:38 PM