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  • All of these revolve around disk protection:

    1. Does the AV script of Norton AV work with the SAV 10 corporate?

    Will it auto download and install with the disk protection on and not get reverted back when the machine is rebooted?

    Any word on a script for NOD32 AV? we may be getting a corporate NOD32 in the near future.

    2. Windows update; when turned on will it auto download and install and not get uninstalled when the machine is rebooted?

     

    My only concerns are with the disk protection, i just need to make sure that AV and Microsoft/Windows update will work with out getting uninstalled at reboot!

    Monday, September 10, 2007 11:57 PM

Answers

  • Hi Texkonc,

     

    1. Does the AV script of Norton AV work with the SAV 10 corporate?

    ------------------------

    Please understand that SteadyState only have built-in Antivirus software update support for several versions of Antivirus software. For other Antivirus software, you need to prepare a signature update script for it as described in your antivirus software manual. If you use the Schedule Update mechanism of SteadyState to update Antivirus software, the update will be retained even after you restart the computer. For more information, please refer to the “Scheduling Software Updates” section in the SteadyState handbook.

     

    Some customers also shared their custom script in the forum. You may check whether they can be of assistance. For example, JC shared a script for Norton Antivirus in the following link:

     

    http://forums.microsoft.com/WindowsToolsandUtilities/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=1763308&SiteID=69

     

    2. Windows update; when turned on will it auto download and install and not get uninstalled when the machine is rebooted?

    ------------------------

    If updates (including security updates and antivirus updates) were installed through SteadyState’s Schedule Software Updates component, they will apply permanently.

     

    During the installation of updates, Windows SteadyState makes sure that the “Retain all changes permanently” option is turned on in the Protect the Hard Drive dialog box. After the installation of all updates, SteadyState will restore the WDP option to “Remove all changes at restart”. That’s why all updates will be retained. However, if updates are installed through other methods, WDP will remove all the changes at restart if the “Remove all changes at restart” option is selected. In that case, we need to configure WDP manually to update the system.

     

    Best Regard,

    Wednesday, September 12, 2007 8:29 AM
  • Hi Texkonc,

     

    Windows and Security program updates

    =================

    If updates have been configured through “Scheduling Software Updates”, when the scheduled time comes, system will log off the current user account (including administrators) to update. In this case, update will be forcibly started no matter what user account you are using.

     

    Under an administrator user account, you can also update the system and security programs manually. When you restart/shut down the system, “Windows Disk Protection Is On” warning will occur. It will provide the following options:

     

    1. Continue and remove all changes

    2. Save changes and then continue

    3. Cancel and go back

     

    We can select “Save changes and then continue” to commit the update changes. After restarting the system, WDP will be restored to “Remove all changes at restart” mode.

     

    Update script

    =================

    If there are several update scripts, we can run them together with the following steps:

     

    1. Create update scripts for your programs and put them to the following folder:

     

    C:\Program Files\Windows SteadyState\Scripts

     

    2. As SteadyState uses SoftwareUpdates.XML under the following location to detect programs and run related scripts, you need to add your programs and related scripts information to it.  

     

    C:\Program Files\Windows SteadyState\XML

     

    Note: There are already several examples in the XML file. You can also refer to Jan’s XML file (for different version of McAfee) in the following thread.

     

    Security program not detected

    http://forums.microsoft.com/WindowsToolsandUtilities/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=1794390&SiteID=69

     

    3. Schedule an update to test the result.

     

    Regards,

    Friday, September 14, 2007 9:35 AM

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    Tuesday, September 11, 2007 2:53 AM
  • I just tried to maunualy run liveupdate with SAV and it error'd out

    Tuesday, September 11, 2007 5:24 PM
  • Well, i got it to update but when restarted it went back to the virus def on the 4th.  I thought that script allows it to keep the new defs, wont be erased by the cache file at restart?  Having the virus Defs updated is a big thing for us and not have them get earased to cache file creat point.

    Tuesday, September 11, 2007 5:53 PM
  • Hi Texkonc,

     

    1. Does the AV script of Norton AV work with the SAV 10 corporate?

    ------------------------

    Please understand that SteadyState only have built-in Antivirus software update support for several versions of Antivirus software. For other Antivirus software, you need to prepare a signature update script for it as described in your antivirus software manual. If you use the Schedule Update mechanism of SteadyState to update Antivirus software, the update will be retained even after you restart the computer. For more information, please refer to the “Scheduling Software Updates” section in the SteadyState handbook.

     

    Some customers also shared their custom script in the forum. You may check whether they can be of assistance. For example, JC shared a script for Norton Antivirus in the following link:

     

    http://forums.microsoft.com/WindowsToolsandUtilities/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=1763308&SiteID=69

     

    2. Windows update; when turned on will it auto download and install and not get uninstalled when the machine is rebooted?

    ------------------------

    If updates (including security updates and antivirus updates) were installed through SteadyState’s Schedule Software Updates component, they will apply permanently.

     

    During the installation of updates, Windows SteadyState makes sure that the “Retain all changes permanently” option is turned on in the Protect the Hard Drive dialog box. After the installation of all updates, SteadyState will restore the WDP option to “Remove all changes at restart”. That’s why all updates will be retained. However, if updates are installed through other methods, WDP will remove all the changes at restart if the “Remove all changes at restart” option is selected. In that case, we need to configure WDP manually to update the system.

     

    Best Regard,

    Wednesday, September 12, 2007 8:29 AM
  •  Shawn Shao - MSFT wrote:

    Hi Texkonc,

     

    During the installation of updates, Windows SteadyState makes sure that the “Retain all changes permanently” option is turned on in the Protect the Hard Drive dialog box. After the installation of all updates, SteadyState will restore the WDP option to “Remove all changes at restart”. That’s why all updates will be retained. However, if updates are installed through other methods, WDP will remove all the changes at restart if the “Remove all changes at restart” option is selected. In that case, we need to configure WDP manually to update the system.

     

    Best Regard,

     

    So you saying that if i inititated the update manualy thru SAV, and restarted, that is why is got erased?  So if just sit there and let download on its own it would have kept it?

    Thursday, September 13, 2007 12:23 AM
  •  

    Well i got the meeting rescheduled. Smile
    Thursday, September 13, 2007 12:29 AM
  • Scenerio:

    Lets say the user got a virus or spyware at 4pm on friday, and we have the computer set to log off with a restart after 9 hours of inactivity.  After that machine restarts it will erase the file that got loaded on system, except the registry?

     

    So i guess my question is, will WDP revert the HD and registry back to the cache file date?  or registry excluded?

     

     

     

    And with the WDP and SAV, it will auto update and keep the seetings even after a reboot even when a limited user is loged on, so the defs will be updated?

     

     

    The save changes temporarly: of WDP

    If you specify to restart on 9/12/2007 at 10pm, will that be everyday from then on?  Or is it just for that one day?

    Thursday, September 13, 2007 12:43 AM
  • Hi Texkonc,

     

    Here are my answers:

     

    1. So you saying that if i inititated the update manualy thru SAV, and restarted, that is why is got erased? 

     

    Answer: If WDP is configured as “Remove all changes at restart”, yes. If you logon as administrator, you will be prompted whether you would like to save the modification when you log off. If you choose the “Save changes and then continue”, the modification will be kept.

     

    2. So if just sit there and let download on its own it would have kept it?

     

    Answer: If update is configured from “Scheduling Software Updates”, yes. Otherwise, updates will be erased.

     

    3. Let’s say the user got a virus or spyware at 4pm on friday, and we have the computer set to log off with a restart after 9 hours of inactivity.  After that machine restarts it will erase the file that got loaded on system, except the registry?

     

    Answer: If WDP is configured as “Remove all changes at restart”, all the hard drive changes including virus/spyware and registry changes will be erased. [Except changes caused by “Scheduling Software Updates”]

     

    4. So i guess my question is, will WDP revert the HD and registry back to the cache file date?  or registry excluded?

     

    Answer: HD and registry will be restored to the cache file date. [Except changes caused by “Scheduling Software Updates”]

     

    5. And with the WDP and SAV, it will auto update and keep the seetings even after a reboot even when a limited user is loged on, so the defs will be updated?

     

    Answer: WDP will not affect the updates configured from “Scheduling Software Updates”. Thus, if SAV update is configured from “Scheduling Software Updates”, definitions will be kept regardless WDP’s status. If a limited user has been logged on when scheduled update time comes, the system will log off the limited account to start updating. User accounts except administrator will be temporarily disabled during the update process. Thus, the update procedure will not be interrupted by users.

     

    6. The save changes temporarly: of WDP. If you specify to restart on 9/12/2007 at 10pm, will that be everyday from then on?  Or is it just for that one day?

     

    Answer: Just for that one day. This design is for the circs when a temporary meeting/training etc. which will last for some days. We can restore the entire system after the circs ends. However, we can also schedule a script task to restore the system every day. Please refer to the following thread:

     

    Reset my System every Day at 00:00

    http://forums.microsoft.com/WindowsToolsandUtilities/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=1877306&SiteID=69

     

    Regards,

    Thursday, September 13, 2007 6:45 AM
  • So, for the changes to keep (Microsoft, SAV), you can be logged on with any user or only the admin? and let it do its thing.

     

    I have noticed alot of scripts that I would like to use, but you can only select one right?  Or do you have to make your own and copy and paste other scripts into one big script?
    Thursday, September 13, 2007 2:58 PM
  • Hi Texkonc,

     

    Windows and Security program updates

    =================

    If updates have been configured through “Scheduling Software Updates”, when the scheduled time comes, system will log off the current user account (including administrators) to update. In this case, update will be forcibly started no matter what user account you are using.

     

    Under an administrator user account, you can also update the system and security programs manually. When you restart/shut down the system, “Windows Disk Protection Is On” warning will occur. It will provide the following options:

     

    1. Continue and remove all changes

    2. Save changes and then continue

    3. Cancel and go back

     

    We can select “Save changes and then continue” to commit the update changes. After restarting the system, WDP will be restored to “Remove all changes at restart” mode.

     

    Update script

    =================

    If there are several update scripts, we can run them together with the following steps:

     

    1. Create update scripts for your programs and put them to the following folder:

     

    C:\Program Files\Windows SteadyState\Scripts

     

    2. As SteadyState uses SoftwareUpdates.XML under the following location to detect programs and run related scripts, you need to add your programs and related scripts information to it.  

     

    C:\Program Files\Windows SteadyState\XML

     

    Note: There are already several examples in the XML file. You can also refer to Jan’s XML file (for different version of McAfee) in the following thread.

     

    Security program not detected

    http://forums.microsoft.com/WindowsToolsandUtilities/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=1794390&SiteID=69

     

    3. Schedule an update to test the result.

     

    Regards,

    Friday, September 14, 2007 9:35 AM