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  • before I bite the bullet and try and do my own, does anyone know of a MP that detects VMware ESX virtual machines, and then collects the vmware specific performance counters?
    Saturday, April 17, 2010 11:39 PM

Answers

  • Ahh, well, that is a different question.  Try installing SCVMM - this product integrates with SCOM and discovers ESx VM's and collects rudimentary health data.
    Microsoft Corporation
    • Marked as answer by Nicholas Li Monday, May 3, 2010 2:56 AM
    Tuesday, April 27, 2010 4:59 AM
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    Just be a bit careful with the VMM Management Pack. It does cause issues elsewhere within OpsMgr. As Kevin Holman has posted on a similar thread recently:

    "The Hyper-V MP and the SCVMM MP both have a "design issue" where there Windows Computer object of the Hyper-V server "hosts" the discovered Windows Computer object of the guests.  This hosting relationship is not getting marked as "is deleted = yes"

    Now - technically - this hosting relationship can cause a circular hosting issue as well, so it's not good for several reasons.  If this is the case, it could be confirmed by finding the relationship in the DB.

    If you only have the hyper-V MP imported - the solutiuon should be easy - as you need to do an override to disable a relationship to stop group membership corruption.  See:  http://blogs.technet.com/kevinholman/archive/2009/11/03/why-do-my-group-memberships-for-windows-computers-have-machines-that-don-t-belong-there.aspx

     Now - for the SCVMM MP - this relationship is not defined in an MP - it is created via the SDK and a connector.  For this reason it is not so simple to handle the issue.  If you arent actively using the SCVMM MP, then remove it to correct this condition.  Alternatively - you could open a case with Microsoft and try to see if they can offer a workaround or a MP fix."


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    • Marked as answer by Nicholas Li Monday, May 3, 2010 2:57 AM
    Wednesday, April 28, 2010 8:06 AM

All replies

  • Hi, there are a couple to buy. I have used Bridgeways in some projects, http://www.bridgeways.ca/docs/Bridgeways_VMware_datasheet.pdf . But I have not seen a free one.
    Anders Bengtsson | Microsoft MVP - Operations Manager | http://www.contoso.se
    Sunday, April 18, 2010 6:52 AM
  • Hi,

    nWorks (or nowadays Veeam) management pack does that also and is quite good at VMware monitoring also. It is based on what you can get out of vCenter / vSphere.

    http://www.veeam.com/vmware-microsoft-esx-monitoring.html

    They have decent documentation about the MP and you get a response from the support usually in couple of hours to a day in case of issues.

    I can't compare to Bridgeways as I haven't used that one.

    -Tero


    MCT | MCSE | MCITP | MCTS SCOM & SCCM
    Sunday, April 18, 2010 7:01 PM
  • Hi,

     

    Regarding your question, I would like to share the following with you:

     

    Monitoring ESX with Scom 2007

    http://communities.vmware.com/thread/166332

    Please Note: Since the website is not hosted by Microsoft, the link may change without notice. Microsoft does not guarantee the accuracy of this information.

     

    Considering this is related to VMWARE products, it is also recommended that you contact VMWARE for help since they are more familiar with their products.

     

    Hope this helps. Thanks.


    Nicholas Li - MSFT
    Monday, April 19, 2010 8:18 AM
  • I'd suggest evaluating all the Veeam Management Pack - create a test environment (virtualised!) and try it out to see if it:

    - does everything you want?

    - does it intuitively?

    - does too much?

    I haven't used the Bridgeways pack but Veeam used to be nWorks and their MP is quite mature now.

    Cheers

    Graham


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    Tuesday, April 20, 2010 8:12 AM
  • Another option if you've got Virtual Center running is Quest's QMX VMware extension. It's free for a limited time.
    Tuesday, April 20, 2010 12:42 PM
  • Hi Steve

    How do you find the Quest QMX modules ? Most of these seem to be old eXc modules and I find they can be noisy and not that robust. They would rarely be my first choice.

    For the original poster - if you want to do a head to head comparison then the test environment could include:

    - Veeam

    - Jalasoft

    - Bridgeways

    - Quest

    If you have a large VMWare environment then try and get each vendor in to do the hard work for you and also to learn show you how easy each is to install (or otherwise!). Also, test out support during the evaluation. Even if you have to deliberately break something - just see how quick each responds to your support call and how helpful they are.

    Cheers

    Graham


    View OpsMgr tips and tricks at http://systemcentersolutions.wordpress.com/
    Tuesday, April 20, 2010 12:50 PM
  • Hi,

    We're using the Veeam MP. It's very rich, goes deep and into a lot of detail ... which can be noisy. So run it first in a test environment to get a better picture and learn how to tune it. We've also looked at Bridgeways back in their beta/RC stage. It was promising, but not as mature as Veeam.

    Cheers,
    Serge

    Monday, April 26, 2010 8:39 PM
  • thanks for the replies.

    Sorry, I don't think I was specific enough.  I wasn't actually looking for a ESX monitoring solution (we have Foglight), but more just about making SCOM detect when the guest is a VM, and collect the VM Memory and VM Processor perfmon counters.

    So it would be a pretty simple MP,  just a discovery rule that detects its a VM Guest, then a bunch of "collect the perfmon counters" rules. 

    It's really more about getting those perfromance counters into SCOM, alongside the other ones.

    thanks.

    • Marked as answer by Dan Rogers Tuesday, April 27, 2010 4:58 AM
    • Unmarked as answer by Dan Rogers Tuesday, April 27, 2010 4:58 AM
    Tuesday, April 27, 2010 4:12 AM
  • Ahh, well, that is a different question.  Try installing SCVMM - this product integrates with SCOM and discovers ESx VM's and collects rudimentary health data.
    Microsoft Corporation
    • Marked as answer by Nicholas Li Monday, May 3, 2010 2:56 AM
    Tuesday, April 27, 2010 4:59 AM
  •  

    Just be a bit careful with the VMM Management Pack. It does cause issues elsewhere within OpsMgr. As Kevin Holman has posted on a similar thread recently:

    "The Hyper-V MP and the SCVMM MP both have a "design issue" where there Windows Computer object of the Hyper-V server "hosts" the discovered Windows Computer object of the guests.  This hosting relationship is not getting marked as "is deleted = yes"

    Now - technically - this hosting relationship can cause a circular hosting issue as well, so it's not good for several reasons.  If this is the case, it could be confirmed by finding the relationship in the DB.

    If you only have the hyper-V MP imported - the solutiuon should be easy - as you need to do an override to disable a relationship to stop group membership corruption.  See:  http://blogs.technet.com/kevinholman/archive/2009/11/03/why-do-my-group-memberships-for-windows-computers-have-machines-that-don-t-belong-there.aspx

     Now - for the SCVMM MP - this relationship is not defined in an MP - it is created via the SDK and a connector.  For this reason it is not so simple to handle the issue.  If you arent actively using the SCVMM MP, then remove it to correct this condition.  Alternatively - you could open a case with Microsoft and try to see if they can offer a workaround or a MP fix."


    View OpsMgr tips and tricks at http://systemcentersolutions.wordpress.com/
    • Marked as answer by Nicholas Li Monday, May 3, 2010 2:57 AM
    Wednesday, April 28, 2010 8:06 AM